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I Caught Someone Cheating On A Test  
User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 349 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

I caught someone cheating on a test and turned them in. now the kid said on facebook that if he ever saw me out of school, he would beat the f#*@ out of me. I think that would be a bad idea given i out weigh him by 3 times.. what on earth shall i do about it. My principle that i did what was right because my schools honor code is " i will not lie,cheat or steal nor tolerate those who do."


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User currently offlineiairallie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5699 times:

How did the kid know it was you?

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15749 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5698 times:

Quoting 76794p (Thread starter):
I caught someone cheating on a test and turned them in. now the kid said on facebook that if he ever saw me out of school, he would beat the f#*@ out of me

Have the police come for a little meeting in the principal's office.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5698 times:

Honestly - if he's threatening you because he's too stupid to pass a test - then it shows he's the dumbass, not you. I'd ignore him, the majority of people like that talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5691 times:

Quoting 76794p (Thread starter):
I caught someone cheating on a test and turned them in

Didn't get the memo huh? Though it may seem noble at the time best not to do things like this. He is only cheating himself and will spare you much agro. At this point find some friend who is big and have him talk to him and tell him that if he touches you he will be pushing up daisies somewhere.


User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 47
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5675 times:
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Remember - "Live and let live". Turning someone in for cheating on a test is probably not the smartest thing to do, especially if his cheating didn't influence you negatively somehow (ie. if his cheating didn't reduce your grade). After all, it's his problem.

Now, considering that it's done already, I would consider going to the principal's office and explain the situation.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15749 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5666 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 4):
Though it may seem noble at the time best not to do things like this. He is only cheating himself and will spare you much agro. At this point find some friend who is big and have him talk to him and tell him that if he touches you he will be pushing up daisies somewhere.

Yeah, it probably would have been best to leave this one alone, but he's already in so now it's just a matter of damage control.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5470 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5666 times:

Good. more people should stand up for what is right.

There will be many around you and on this board (some will even be adults), that will say you should have minded your own business. I say, that you did mnind your own business. It is up to every one of us to uphold societies rules. When we knowingly allow those rules to be violated or turn the eye, society moves a step closer to anarchy.

By the way, why should the bastard get a leg up by cheating.



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User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5665 times:

Quoting 76794p (Thread starter):
honor code

Yes, reporting a classmate for cheating on his own class test (sic!) seems very honorable to me.   
What do you expect? That he wants to be your best friend now?

Anyway, don't take everything seriously that people say on the internet.



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User currently offlinesan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5652 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 7):
There will be many around you and on this board (some will even be adults), that will say you should have minded your own business. I say, that you did mnind your own business. It is up to every one of us to uphold societies rules. When we knowingly allow those rules to be violated or turn the eye, society moves a step closer to anarchy.

We may not agree on everything, especially politics, but I definitely agree with you here. The OP did the right thing here, and as for the threat by the cheater, did everyone apparently miss this?

Quoting 76794p (Thread starter):
I think that would be a bad idea given i out weigh him by 3 times..



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2827 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5650 times:

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 5):
Turning someone in for cheating on a test is probably not the smartest thing to do, especially if his cheating didn't influence you negatively somehow (ie. if his cheating didn't reduce your grade). After all, it's his problem.

I totally agree with this comment. During my school years, I saw some students cheating but I could not bother one bit. What they did was wrong, but what they did was not my problem. And anyway, I knew they would pay it sooner or later. You seriously don't help yourself by cheating.

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 5):
Now, considering that it's done already, I would consider going to the principal's office and explain the situation.

Again, I agree.



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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5648 times:

You did the right thing. Cheating is for computer games, not for exams.

It devalues other people's honest efforts, it can easily make subsequent exams harder for everyone and it keeps precisely those people from coping with failure who have never learned how to do that. Come to think of it, it's probably guaranteed that an ***hole boss who always takes his own failures out on his subordinates was an exam cheater.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15749 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5634 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 11):
You did the right thing.

But that won't keep anyone from kicking your ass.

You're not looking the other way while the Nazis run a death camp outside your town. You're not watching unsafe products roll off your employers production line. It's a test at school. Nobody's going to get hurt except for the guy that cheated. Pick you battles better next time.

[Edited 2010-10-09 16:55:55]


Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5629 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 7):
Good. more people should stand up for what is right.

Don't we have all these great teachers to do that?

Quoting san747 (Reply 9):
We may not agree on everything, especially politics, but I definitely agree with you here. The OP did the right thing here, and as for the threat by the cheater, did everyone apparently miss this?

Society's rules? Come on. No we didn't but since the school missed him cheating maybe they will be a little more proactive on this one.


User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5620 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 12):
Quoting aloges (Reply 11):
You did the right thing.

But that won't keep anyone from kicking your ass.

(...) Pick you battles better next time.

What a nice lesson this is. He reported someone doing wrong, which is what the school (for cheating) and also the law (for crimes) requires him to do. Now that someone is threatening violence and people are telling 76794p that he shouldn't have done it and shouldn't do it again, hence violence wins and the cheater gets his way.

I don't really like any of these "why society is going down the toilet" statements, but this is a pretty good explanation.



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User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 12):
It's a test at school. Nobody's going to get hurt except for the guy that cheated.

If the kid cheated on this test, he's probably cheated on other assignments before. Which means that his grades are higher than they should be, due to his dishonesty. Which means that he might get into a decent college/job/internship/etc. instead of someone who is more skilled or knowledgable but has lower grades, due to not cheating. That's how cheating hurts others.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15749 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5590 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 15):
Which means that he might get into a decent college/job/internship/etc. instead of someone who is more skilled or knowledgable but has lower grades, due to not cheating.

That is a scenario so convoluted as to be unrealistic. In my experience, students who cheat aren't going anywhere anyway.

But, if we must continue to play "what if," this kid cheats in high school to get into college, cheats in college to get to med school, and cheats through med school and kills a patient. I guess the OP saved a life then, so he's best off to get his whoopin' and soothe the pain with ice and the warm fuzzy feeling from doing the right thing.

Quoting aloges (Reply 14):
What a nice lesson this is.

Here's the lesson: Take care of yourself. Do your things right and don't worry about everyone else unless it's causing you a problem. Keep your eyes open and your mouth shut and take care of business. Do that and everything else will take care of itself.

The OP in this case took something that wasn't a problem for him and made it a problem for him. All so that he might have kept this cheater from cheating his way into college, in a spot that could have gone to an honest student, who might have been able to cure cancer had they gotten that spot...



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

Quoting 76794p (Thread starter):
I caught someone cheating on a test and turned them in.

If I was you, I would have been more discreet about it. It could have spared you some trouble. That being said, if the guy is telling you that he would kick the shit out of you because you reported the cheating, then this says lots about his character (or lack thereof).

Quoting aloges (Reply 14):
What a nice lesson this is. He reported someone doing wrong, which is what the school (for cheating) and also the law (for crimes) requires him to do.

Since when is it a crime to get caught cheating on a test? I'm not condoning cheating, but I have not heard of any criminal law (at least in Germany) that considers simple cheating (e.g. having a Spickzettel (I don't know how to translate that), hiding an open textbook, or looking over somebody else's shoulder) a misdemeanour. Now, if it's organised mass cheating, where a group of students would try to steal the results (like what happened some time ago in Hamburg), that is criminal.


User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5574 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 17):
Since when is it a crime to get caught cheating on a test?

That's why I made the distinction: the school requires him to report cheating, the law requires him to report crimes. The two are not the same.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5560 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 14):
hence violence wins and the cheater gets his way

What has gotten away with?

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 17):
I would have been more discreet about it.

In this country you have the right to know your accuser.


User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5558 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 16):
The OP in this case took something that wasn't a problem for him and made it a problem for him.

Grades, degrees or diplomas are worth something only if the public trusts that they accurately represent the level of effort that went into earning them. Cheating destroys that trust.

Another way to look at it - I'm currently doing graduate school at an institution with an honor code. I am given a large degree of leeway and freedom in my academic work. For instance, all exams are unproctored, and most are take-home - if I like, I can do my final exam while lounging on the beach drinking a beer. But I only have that freedom because there is an effective, self-policed system in place to catch the few people who break the honor code.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15749 posts, RR: 27
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5542 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 20):
Grades, degrees or diplomas are worth something only if the public trusts that they accurately represent the level of effort that went into earning them. Cheating destroys that trust.

For a high school diploma? The chances that one guy cheating on that test will have any real consequences for anyone other than himself are minuscule.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 20):
But I only have that freedom because there is an effective, self-policed system in place to catch the few people who break the honor code.

And high school students do not get that freedom for a reason.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5510 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
What has gotten away with?

Just RTFP:

Quoting aloges (Reply 14):
people are telling 76794p that he shouldn't have done it and shouldn't do it again, hence violence wins and the cheater gets his way.

Add "the next time" if it helps... add it at the end after "his way".   



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5489 times:

Quoting 76794p (Thread starter):
now the kid said on facebook that if he ever saw me out of school, he would beat the f#*@ out of me.

Hi,

We have some great advice on our site regarding Cyberbullying:

http://www.schools.nsw.edu.au/news/technology/cybersafety/index.php

Take the time to read it. Although we aim this at school kids here in my country, it's useful advice for everyone.

It's important that you don't try to retaliate online, that makes it worse. In particular, the following article is good:

http://www.schools.nsw.edu.au/news/t...y/yr2009/survivingcyberbullies.php

[Edited 2010-10-09 18:34:43]

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5482 times:

Quoting 76794p (Thread starter):
I caught someone cheating on a test and turned them in. now the kid said on facebook that if he ever saw me out of school, he would beat the f#*@ out of me. I think that would be a bad idea given i out weigh him by 3 times.. what on earth shall i do about it. My principle that i did what was right because my schools honor code is " i will not lie,cheat or steal nor tolerate those who do."

My be you should think about cheating off someone that is good at "puncation and capelization"?


25 NIKV69 : I did. He has no honor and obviously could care less about the schools code so now what has he accomplished except making himself a target?[Edited 20
26 Aaron747 : Couldn't disagree more - especially if there's a curve. I'll be damned if someone is going to screw me or my friends who studied hard and that's prec
27 aloges : Oh, whatever.
28 NIKV69 : I asked a question. I mean these school codes are treating like they are living things when in fact they are no better than the kids attending. If th
29 falstaff : I am a high school teacher and I would have completely ignored your report that he was cheating on the exam... Why? I have seen MANY students snitch o
30 Post contains images aloges : Did you? I thought it was a riddle. To solve it, I shall ask the following: Who has no honour, the pupil who reported or the pupil who cheated? No of
31 76794p : HIs best friend says she is praying for me and that is he does not come back on tuesday then i am screwed. There convinced he is going to get expelled
32 cpd : Perhaps you would like to clarify that comment, and make it very clear what you are suggesting the person should do? For the benefit of the public re
33 aloges : Probably not. He wants to "get even", not make amends. Of course it wouldn't be legal, but the whole point of it would be to incriminate you and put
34 76794p : I plan on talking to her on tuesday.
35 Post contains images aloges : OK, "headmistress" in that case.
36 NIKV69 : Seems you should read my post I cleraly said the cheater. That will make things so much better
37 Post contains images UH60FtRucker : From the looks of it, you need to be paying more attention in class (specially spelling/grammar class), than worrying about what other kids are doing
38 aloges : Hmm... "He could care less about the school code", that means the person you're referring to cares about the code, which our original poster apparent
39 Mudboy : You made a decision to turn this guy in, so stand by it and don't back down! We live and die by our decisions in life, and must learn to accept the co
40 BMI727 : It isn't what I'd do either, but if it really is that big of a concern for him and his parents. Which is exactly my point. There isn't really anythin
41 474218 : I know it could never happen with lawyers suing over just about anything but: I suggest "mass punishment" like we had in basic training in the USAF. I
42 Post contains images TheCol : There are consequences for every decision in life. Some consequences are good, and some are bad. You made your bed and slept in it, now you have to a
43 Longhornmaniac : Sounds an awful lot like Texas A&M. Cheers, Cameron
44 san747 : What do you want? The cheater is obviously going to get punished. So he's going to be pissed off about it, but its his own damn fault. The cheater is
45 OA412 : While I've never turned anyone in for cheating, I fully agree with your overall sentiment that cheating is completely unfair to those of us who studi
46 iairallie : I'm in Law School now and my school (a Catholic Uni) takes it very very seriously. Better that the kid get caught now and learn from his mistake when
47 BMI727 : Probably not. And in this case such incentive wasn't really there. So, there is no real reason to make an issue of it.
48 Mudboy : When a buddy of mine was in Med School, he said there was a student that was caught cheating early in the year, but nothing was said until the last da
49 DocLightning : You report his facebook comment to the police and to the school administration. Threats of violence against specific people are not taken lightly. Esp
50 Scorpio : You wouldn't at least follow up on it? Pay some extra attention to the student he said was cheating to see if you can catch him cheating yourself? I
51 falstaff : Sure, if it was something obvious like several students with the same answer on an essay question, but if the answer on a multiple choice test is cor
52 NoUFO : I'm a former colleague of you, and I did value input and suggestions coming from the students as this clearly showed that they did care about the edu
53 LTBEWR : Reporting or 'ratting out' someone who is cheating, lying or stealing is always a difficult decision. There is a fear of making a false accusation, wh
54 Scorpio : No, I'd be right on that. A student telling a teacher a fellow student is cheating isn't trying to 'tell the teacher how to do his job', he's simply
55 einsteinboricua : This is quite a split here. On one hand, I would tend to agree with those that say that you should have minded your own business. On the other hand, k
56 aloges : Wait a second. You think a pupil is telling a teacher how to do his job when all he's doing is keep to the school's ethical code?
57 iairallie : Direct questioning can work too. Give the guilty party and any participants an opportunity to fess up. You can also always have a general discussion
58 HAWK21M : If you did the right thing then maybe the cheat should realise this too.
59 Rara : I'd like to echo what some other posters have said and advice you not to turn other people in, regardless of what your school's "honour code" says. I
60 BMI727 : Welcome to life. What is the school going to do? Haul every student in the room to the principal's office and ask them if they noticed? Even if they
61 san747 : I fail to see the advantage of hiring the cheater. Perhaps you could explain? If you really want to "look out for number one," which apparently is wh
62 falstaff : How would an employer ever find out? You guys don't live in the reality of the US education system (good or bad) you start sending out school records
63 Yellowstone : Paranoid much? You're one set of eyes in a classroom of 30-35 kids. Of course some stuff is going to happen in the class that you don't catch. I thin
64 iairallie : I don't get all offended on the plane if a passenger points out someone breaking a rule that I didn't notice. The ratio of FA's to Pax is around 1-50
65 TheCol : That's one of many options the OP should have considered. You obviously missed his point.
66 QXatFAT : So I guess we just dont keep people accountable these days? That right there is the problem these days. It isnt a crime but it is school policy that
67 Globeex : First of all, it clearly is not the right thing to cheat in an exam. Personally I haven't cheated in an exam, like for ever. For a couple of reasons.
68 NoUFO : I have a life, I just wish I could get some people out of it.
69 LTU932 : Of course we can agree to that. I was simply responding to something Achim posted. Personally, to expel someone from school, I'm not sure if outright
70 falstaff : Expelled or suspended? The words are often confused, but a lawyer will let you know the difference real fast. In Michigan Expulsion from school means
71 KLAM : Ethical dilema? Nothing's right, nothing's wrong, you made a judgement using your own values, and you preferred the school values over your personal s
72 einsteinboricua : Not if you signed and accepted the student manual. If the school has set penalties for such actions, once you signed it, you agree to whatever they d
73 Yellowstone : Definitely true. At my undergrad institution, cheating on a test almost always results in the student being asked to take a year off. A second infrac
74 76794p : BTW i go to a small private school in Houston.
75 Rara : I know, I was just speaking hypothetically. Sure. I've cheated on exams before. Most everyone I know has cheated on exams before. I didn't turn out a
76 QXatFAT : I dont see why though? If the school has established this through orientation then why can it not be a zero tollerance? I think it actaully quite goo
77 johns624 : Something I don't understand. In the opening post, the OP says that it wouldn't be wise for the cheater to come after him since he is 3 times his size
78 UH60FtRucker : Hmph. Interesting. I guess you debunk the common belief that private schools provide a better education!
79 Maverick623 : The only difference between private and public schooling (and home schooling) is the social interactions that take place. Every school has their good
80 Post contains images Globeex : Well and usually these are then the people that scream the loudest when they are not integrated into a group, wonder why
81 falstaff : Depends on what kind of education you want. Example: The school where I teach has a fantastic furniture & cabinet making program. There are no pr
82 johns624 : He's the one who said he was 3 times the size of the other kid. That means that he is big for his age, in which case a fight would be no problem, or
83 UH60FtRucker : I'm just amazed a high schooler has such lousy grammar and spelling. Private school or not, somewhere down the line the system failed.
84 Fly2HMO : Then man up and face the consequences. You know damn well nobody appreciates being turned in. I've seen plenty of people cheating throughout school a
85 NIKV69 : Yea and where this happens people call each other "Comrade" In the US if someone is going to accuse you of a misdeed you have the right to know who i
86 iairallie : In a COURT regarding a legal matter. Doesn't apply to a school stituation. Besides a teacher would normally listen to a student accusation then look
87 BMI727 : But what are the chances that the OP is really going to be competing directly with the cheater for a job, scholarship, spot in college, etc.? It's a
88 Mudboy : I don't know if you unerstood what I meant, the Teaching staff knew he cheated months prior to the end of the school year, and allowed him to finish
89 cws818 : Respectfully, yes they are. You and your colleagues do, on a daily basis, what each of us should strive to do at some point in our lives - and you de
90 Maverick623 : Ever heard of exaggeration? I seriously doubt he's 360 pounds. Why is that? Respect is earned, not given. I had teachers that were wonderful human be
91 san747 : I can agree with that. I have cheated too, like you, not proud of it and don't encourage or condone it, and I would consider myself an overall honest
92 OA412 : Exactly my point. There are certain rights that apply in a court of law that do not apply in a school or other setting. For instance, my employer's p
93 Luftfahrer : Very well said, I totally agree with you! Especially about the bullying part. The problem with high school students cheating on class tests –which
94 Post contains images F9Widebody : Quick survey of the advice thus far: Well, the a.net experts have spoken. You should have stuck your head in the sand. Agreed. I recently had to deal
95 RussianJet : He is cheating everyone who worked hard and didn't cheat. No, solving problems with threats of violence is, strangely enough, not a good idea. As I s
96 Luftfahrer : I didn't say that. Still, turning a cheater in is "something you just don't do", to quote a fellow user in the thread. Do you really believe he is go
97 iairallie : It's a private school and the cheater is attending on a scholarship. It may not be criminal but by fraudlently accepting scholarship money which the
98 BMI727 : No you have to pick your battles. Cheating on a test where there is nothing to gain by narcing on the cheater probably isn't a good choice.
99 Scorpio : You don't lose authority because someone points out a student is cheating. How does that even enter into the discussion? How does taking a report by
100 Rara : We can agree here! Possibly, yes.. but since the person with perfect morals probably doesn't exist, I'd rather choose the fallible one over the one t
101 ALTF4 : Interesting responses. At my university, if the professor catches you cheating (all types of cheating are counted the same - failing to cite sources -
102 iairallie : So as a business owner you'd rather hire the guy who ignores it when he sees other employees engaging in activities which cheat you. Like not saying
103 lewis : Since you already reported the cheater, stick with it and deal with it but without any violence unless it is for self defense. If it was me I wouldn't
104 RussianJet : A highly debatable point. Cheating takes away from everyone who takes the test honestly. If you have studied hard, why on earth should you sit back a
105 Luftfahrer : I find the point 'do cheaters get better grades?' highly debatable. I do not think so. Why? Because those who really focus on cheating are, in general
106 TheCol : At the end of the day, it's going to eventually come around and bite them in the ass. In other words, cheaters eventually expose themselves without p
107 474218 : I would say that as a former teacher, if the teacher is a good teacher, they do not require being told when someone in the class is cheating on a test
108 BMI727 : Because coming forward is going to result in considerable problems for minimal gain. That is what I found as well.
109 FRAspotter : Uh every school I've been to has had that motto as well... Every service academy has that as a motto as well. It's definitely not specific to A&M
110 TheCommodore : You did the right thing without doubt. If there are 2 things I cant stand at school and that is, cheaters and bullies. The 2 have NO place in the educ
111 BMI727 : A lot of other students can't stand narcs.
112 einsteinboricua : In the short term...in the long run, teachers (well...those that notice) will honor students who make sure that rules are followed.[Edited 2010-10-12
113 iairallie : I find it highly irrelevant. Cheating is wrong regardless of the grade the cheater gets. The cheater is getting a grade they have not earned whether
114 Post contains images mirrodie : I agree it was the noble thing to do. I'm not sure I would have acted as you have. But I love the daisy comment! Made my day! LOL Maybe I missed a po
115 Luftfahrer : Yes, we can agree on that. However, is it really worth to right this wrong? Again: this is a crime that directly affects others. That is not the case
116 QXatFAT : That is true...probably because most of them want to get away with something that they have done themselves, currently doing, or wouldnt mind doing.
117 iairallie : The kids who were more deserving but didn't a) get into this private school because this kid was taking up an admissions slot he does not derserve an
118 Luftfahrer : I forgot to add this, I'm speaking in general terms, not about a specific case, of which the kid mentioned above certainly is one. Now he's suffering
119 mirrodie : Some amazing perspectives of ethics in this discussion.
120 NorthstarBoy : Interesting honor code, almost word for word identical to the civil air patrol honor code, "I will not lie, cheat, nor steal, nor tolerate anyone who
121 Post contains images KaiGywer : I think you missed one...unless you indeed meant for him to go swimming the kitchen sink
122 Wingscrubber : Sounds like a golden blackmail opportunity was missed here. Given that it was a school test, no real laws were being broken and nobody was being hurt
123 bhill : You did the right thing...if it wasn't for the cheating princes of the banking/financial industry, we would not be in the mess we are in now...Their w
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