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Dems Plan Of Palin Vs Obama Crumbling  
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2958 times:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/...hmondteapartypresidentialstrawpoll


Got to say this wasn't much as a surprise as Christie's star is rising very fast as a politico with not only brains but with substance, someone who doesn't need a teleprompter to wow a crowd and is not afraid to take it to the scared cows that feel they are owed. He is also someone the far left is reluctant to attack (with the exception of Ed Schultz of course) since he isn't a far right nutcase. What we have here is a real leader, not an orator. I think as things begin to play out and it's obvious Palin can't get the nomination the Dems are going to be a bit of a pickle since they have only stratigized a Palin-Obama scenario since the way things look it's the only way he could win re-election. Oh yea that is if he wins the primary from Hillary.   

The midterms are going to tell us a lot but what has been obvious is Gov Christie is the real rising star of the GOP. Strap yourselves in. It's going to be a hell of a ride.

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User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

Probably not going to happen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...-christie-for-presid_n_708765.html

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...ov_chris_christie_says_theres.html

As he has for weeks, the governor was asked again about his presidential aspirations. He repeated his mantra that he is neither ready for the job nor does he want it badly enough to do what it would take to run.

"I just don’t want that, that badly right now, I just don’t," Christie said. "I’m thrilled to be the governor of New Jersey."


At least, unlike our current President, he has an honest assessment of his qualification for the job.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

Quoting dxing (Reply 1):
As he has for weeks, the governor was asked again about his presidential aspirations. He repeated his mantra that he is neither ready for the job nor does he want it badly enough to do what it would take to run.

This is a standard response and is designed to keep the media at bay. When Clinton emerged as the frontrunner for the Dems he also denied for weeks and went as far as to say he wasn't running. Right up till when he announced his was.


User currently offlinecws818 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2813 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Right up till when he announced his was.

"his what" what?


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Quoting cws818 (Reply 3):
"his what" what?

Typo

I watched a good documentary on Clinton all through the process from when the rumors flew he was running. In which thre are a couple of scene of him being questioned by reporters and giving the same response as Gov Christie about his state needing him. Also tying the Ricky Ray Rector execution in which Clinton used as a propanda stunt to try to get the public thinking he would be tough on crime as POTUS. When a quick check of his career as Gov in Arkanas shows he was in the habit of commuting death rown inmates sentences but when the heat was on in the campaign he turned down the last minute appeal of that death rown inmate.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

No Sarah Palin.... pleazzze!!!!!         

I have never been a Obama-bot, not from day one... but Sararh Palin... oh... she is scary!!!!

  


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
No Sarah Palin.... pleazzze!!!!!

I have never been a Obama-bot, not from day one... but Sararh Palin... oh... she is scary!!!!

Only to those who want a Europe style society. Don't worry she isn't running. Like I siad the DNC better get something together because when a good candidate emerges and they can't run with the Palin bashing they will be in a bit of trouble.


User currently offlineseb146 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2732 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Thread starter):
they have only stratigized a Palin-Obama scenario since the way things look it's the only way he could win re-election.

How? When? Sources, please. FOX? Give me a break. When the right destroys the economy even worse than they did under Bush over the next two years, Obama and the Democrats will be looking really really good to voters in 2012.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2725 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 7):
How? When? Sources, please. FOX? Give me a break

It's right in front of you. You kidding? All we hear is how the GOP has propped her up as their leader, how she, Beck and Rush are going to run? You don't need a source to see what is right in front of you unless of course your in denial.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 7):
When the right destroys the economy even worse than they did under Bush over the next two years, Obama and the Democrats will be looking really really good to voters in 2012.

Well halfway through next year we will get a good idea. If the Dems finally make a decision on the tax cuts and doesn't refuse to take a vote maybe we can get a good idea. What most likely will happen is once the election is over the Dems will see they are in grave trouble and will have no choice to use the GOPs idea to let all the tax cuts go for at least a two year period. If this jump starts the economy 2012 will be worse than 2010 for ya buddy because it will show the Obama original direction would have been a disaster. Which most know already which is why the polls reflect big GOP gains in three weeks but I will be more than happy to have a discussion after these steps have time to take effect on the economy.


User currently offlineKen777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
If the Dems finally make a decision on the tax cuts and doesn't refuse to take a vote maybe we can get a good idea.

The Dems were ready to pass a new tax law that provides new tax cuts for 98% of taxpayers. Republicans simply don't want that - being against it brings in too much money from that 2% for the campaigns.

It can happen in the lame duck session, or it can happen after Jan 20th. All up to the Republicans when it passes.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
What most likely will happen is once the election is over the Dems will see they are in grave trouble and will have no choice to use the GOPs idea to let all the tax cuts go for at least a two year period.

The major risk is that the Deficit Commission will throw some major cold water on the goodies the Republicans want to hand out to the wealthy.

It was rough enough when the Commission on base closings presented their findings - wait for this new commission.

There will be cuts in spending, but there will also be some sharp positions on taxes. The Tea Party will probably throw themselves into the Harbor.

So basically it might be really smart to get anything passed before the new Report is presented.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 7):
Obama and the Democrats will be looking really really good to voters in 2012.

It doesn't look like it...

 

A book was thrown at Barack Obama’s head during his Germantown rally yesterday in Philadelphia, while a streaker also tainted the event that was supposed to rally Obama’s hardcore base of predominantly black supporters.

video
http://www.examiner.com/american-pol...-in-vancouver/barack-obama-video-1

 Wow!


User currently offlinemt99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2696 times:
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RICHMOND, Va. – New Jersey Governor Chris Christie won the first-ever Richmond, Va., Tea Party presidential straw poll on Saturday, garnering 14 percent of the 1,560 votes cast on Friday and Saturday. Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin finished in a close second place with 13.5 percen

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/...hmondteapartypresidentialstrawpoll

The difference was 0.5% out of 1540 votes.. that's 77 votes..

Have faith in Sarah.. 0.5% is not insurmountable .. Come on "real America"!


User currently offlineSlider From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 11):
RICHMOND, Va. – New Jersey Governor Chris Christie won the first-ever Richmond, Va., Tea Party presidential straw poll on Saturday, garnering 14 percent of the 1,560 votes cast on Friday and Saturday. Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin finished in a close second place with 13.5 percen

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/...hmondteapartypresidentialstrawpoll

The difference was 0.5% out of 1540 votes.. that's 77 votes..

Have faith in Sarah.. 0.5% is not insurmountable .. Come on "real America"!

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again—my personal opinion is that Palin can be of more value to the conservative movement from outside the box of elected office. Her impact in supporting true conservatives, purging the RINOs, and supporting the TEA Party movement is far more profound than running for office, which would be a bloodbath of personal attacks the likes of which this country has NEVER seen.


User currently offlinesan747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

Quote:
"I believe governments reflect their people," Paul told reporters before his speech Saturday.

Ain't that the truth.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 10):

A book was thrown at Barack Obama’s head during his Germantown rally yesterday in Philadelphia

That's pretty scary to hear!

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 10):
while a streaker also tainted the event that was supposed to rally Obama’s hardcore base of predominantly black supporters.

That's whatever. Probably more of an attention hound than any sort of anti-Obama message.


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

To me Christie is hilarious, but overall he's not fit to be president. His political beliefs are good and he's a breath of fresh air for the liberal, high taxed, and corrupt New Jersey state legislature. But he's relatively inexperienced for the executive. Personally I'd like to see him do more and he'll have to work hard because the state budget is completely screwed.

Corzine was a narrow minded hack. George W. Bush is to the USA as what Jon Corzine is to New Jersey.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 10):

video

What a tool.


User currently offlineMir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 14):
To me Christie is hilarious, but overall he's not fit to be president.

   He's ultimately more interested in what makes him look good than what is really good for New Jersey. The more things try to change, the more they stay the same....

-Mir


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2597 times:

Getting better and better! I love it.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...ov_christie_an_all-star_in_pe.html

Quoting Mir (Reply 15):
He's ultimately more interested in what makes him look good than what is really good for New Jersey. The more things try to change, the more they stay the same....
Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 14):
but overall he's not fit to be president.

LOL, you guys better get some new material, these are older than the hills. Going to be fun watching the left scramble and send Gloria Allred to find dirt on this guy. His star is rising and the timing could not be better. This is going to be sweet.


User currently offlinemt99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2589 times:
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Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 16):
Getting better and better! I love it.

It doesnt make sense. He made more than $500K last year; which is more than The Presidential $400K..

Why would he want to become President? Specially considering how you usually claim that the only driver to become President is making money.

At least that why you say that Palin wouldnt run, because she can make more money by not being president..


User currently offlineseb146 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2589 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
All we hear is how the GOP has propped her up as their leader, how she, Beck and Rush are going to run?

I have only ever heard that inferred on this site.


Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
If this jump starts the economy 2012 will be worse than 2010 for ya buddy because it will show the Obama original direction would have been a disaster.

Like the tax cuts have jump started the economy since they were signed on by Bush?


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 17):
It doesnt make sense. He made more than $500K last year; which is more than The Presidential $400K..

Why would he want to become President? Specially considering how you usually claim that the only driver to become President is making money

Maybe much like his home state the fact that the current administration is a joke and has it in ruins and he wants something to be left of this country that he loves for his kids?

Just saying.

Besides his earning potential will not be a problem trust me.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 18):
I have only ever heard that inferred on this site

You don't watch much TV then. Tune into MSNBC, they have said a few times.


User currently offlinemt99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2578 times:
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Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):

Maybe much like his home state the fact that the current administration is a joke and has it in ruins and he wants something to be left of this country that he loves for his kids?

And Palin doesn feel the same way?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Besides his earning potential will not be a problem trust me.

he would be taking at least a 20% Pay cut!!

From your logic, it would be stupid for him to run.. Presidency = Monetary gain.


User currently offlineER757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 11):
The difference was 0.5% out of 1540 votes.. that's 77 votes..

Exactly what I was thinking - not exactly a ringing endorsement.
NIK - I have said in previous threads that I agree with you that Palin won't be the nominee in 2012, but I am not lining up with you on anointing this guy as the chosen one based on a single straw poll a year and a half before the first primary. If history is our guide, the go-to guy (or gal) may not even be on the national radar just yet. Think back to 1990 and the seemingly foregone conclusion that Bush I would get a second term. No one ever heard of Bill Clinton back then.
Another point I have to question is your assertion that the Dems are only planning an Obama/Palin match up in 2012.
I think it's naive at best to think their strategists haven't worked up other scenarios.
Not that it will matter, I'm on record as saying Obama will be a one-term president (unless the Republicans are dumb enough to nominate Palin).


User currently offlineavent From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2567 times:

The Dems plan of Palin vs Obama?

The Dems control Palin?

My God! It's Palin who's the Manchurian Candidate!

RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


User currently offlineMir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2560 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 16):
you guys better get some new material, these are older than the hills.

Don't need new material if he keeps validating the old stuff.

-Mir


User currently offlineavent From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2547 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 21):
Not that it will matter, I'm on record as saying Obama will be a one-term president (unless the Republicans are dumb enough to nominate Palin).

I agree. He never had much of a chance. I seriously considered not voting for him on the assumption he'd be wasted on the current state of the boobocracy; I was so tempted to let McCain and the Republicans hold the over-brimming political bedpan they created, but they had to get Palin on board... Sigh...


25 TOMMY767 : He specifically says he has no intention of running for president. What more do you want?
26 Post contains links planespotting : Neither instance did anything to taint him: After apprehending and questioning the man responsible, the Secret Service determined that he was simply
27 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Here is my good find of the day! Obama is related to Palin NEW YORK (AP) — President Barack Obama has family ties to none other than Sarah Palin, ac
28 KevinL1011 : Nick, I just saw a "Nugent - Palin 2012" sticker today. Scary but.....???
29 mt99 : Like "Chicken Nuget"?[Edited 2010-10-13 06:31:08]
30 474218 : I think you need to do a little research: The Democrats want to let the Bush tax cuts expire for everyone. Then they want to reinstall them for 98% o
31 seb146 : *yawn* Go back far enough and one will find Bush related to Hitler, Stalin related to Meg Whitman, Saddam related to Reagan.... Move along... Nothing
32 TOMMY767 : As an independent I find her to be scary but at the same time I also find Reid, Pelosi, and Biden to be quite terrifying as well (and in that order.)
33 NIKV69 : So did Clinton. It's a standard response. Means nothing. He is playing it really smart. His star is rising and trust me he will probably run.
34 cws818 : Why are you so terrified of Europe?
35 planespotting : Sorry, but as you have proved many times before, you really have no clue what you're talking about on any subject, politics, government or otherwise.
36 NIKV69 : Truth hurts doesn't it? Fact is Clinton many times denied he would be running. I know the thought of Christie running scares you because it dispels t
37 474218 : It's not Europe it's "Socialism"!!!
38 planespotting : Sigh. Where to begin? 1) Denying that you're running for president does not mean you will. Yes, some deny it ... but that doesn't mean that everyone
39 TOMMY767 : He should reconsider. And/or a complete dumb ass. He is, but once again lack of experience. He's been governor for under a year in NJ. After Obama pu
40 NIKV69 : Ok so using your logic denying it does't mean they definately will not run? It's politics buddy. Your going to believe everything you hear? If that i
41 FlyPNS1 : The funny thing with Christie is that he actually subverted the NJ Legislature by declaring a "fiscal emergency" and using the emergency to avoid his
42 planespotting : You're not in any position to question anyone's logic. But no, that's not what it means - it means we don't know what he's going to do, and frankly,
43 NIKV69 : Your personal attacks are getting a little tiresome. Great logic I guess what you are trying to say is your hoping he doesn't run since he probably a
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