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I Got Lost In The Alps. Where Was I?  
User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2894 times:

Hi a little while back during august I went with my Explorer Scout Unit (big boy version of scouts) and we went down from the UK to the south of France and my leaders sent of us into the alps to hike and my group kinda got lost (mea culpa) any ways we spent the night on top of a mountain in the french alps outside a cabin it was quite new and has electricty and an outside source of running water that goes into a basin. we left from a scout camp was le Castellard-melan (Alpes-de-Haute-Provence)and the cabin was by a a gravel track. and it was called something like"le cabine" or "le cabane" the cabin was in a large field and all the time we could see this large sharp rock face that seemed to be made up of little shards of rock. The cabin was very close to the cliff edge as well

Our route : we left the camp and headed the main office (Scouts et Guides de France Centre Feux Nouveaux)and went a long the main road headed of onto a mountain path as the road turned left sharply and thats the last place we are sure where we were ( or so i can remember)

and ive been trying to find out were it was for ages and its started to get on my nerves
So if any french hikers/scouts or anyone who knows this area could help me i know its a slim chance but its been bugging me for ages!! and i dont know were else to turn
Thanks
Speedbird9


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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

Quoting speedbird9 (Thread starter):
I Got Lost In The Alps. Where Was I?

The Alps.


User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 1):

Quoting speedbird9 (Thread starter):
I Got Lost In The Alps. Where Was I?

The Alps.

i ment could someone locate where i was on google maps or something

and very funny   



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5714 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2794 times:
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I am not an expert on the Alps, certainly not the French alps but a cabin called "le cabine" on a gravel road near a rugged rock face and a field is hardly a lot to go on!

You should be able to locate the camp you started from, it likely has an address or you have directions how to get there, the time it took you to walk to "le cabine" will give you a fairly good idea of distance, so that is your search radius... shouldn't be too hard after that!

Cheers



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4703 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

Quoting speedbird9 (Thread starter):
cabin was by a a gravel track. and it was called something like"le cabine"

Classic.... It would be the same as looking for a cabin in the Rockies which is near a gravel track and called 'the cabin'....  

Good luck though!



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User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2763 times:

I think i just found it, i tried finding it before but couldnt find anything

Quoting stealthz (Reply 3):
You should be able to locate the camp you started from, it likely has an address or you have directions how to get there, the time it took you to walk to "le cabine" will give you a fairly good idea of distance, so that is your search radius... shouldn't be too hard after that!
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...359&spn=0.000917,0.002642&t=h&z=19

its very fuzzy but i think thats it. i feel like a complete idiot  ashamed 
thanks for all your help

[Edited 2010-10-18 14:37:34]


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User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2654 times:

Quoting speedbird9 (Reply 5):
its very fuzzy but i think thats it.

Well, are you sure? This looks like the recent pictures of the Apollo landing sites from the NASA, for me.   

Axel

[Edited 2010-10-19 04:14:59]


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User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2587 times:

Quoting speedbird9 (Reply 5):
I think i just found it, i tried finding it before but couldnt find anything

Quoting stealthz (Reply 3):
You should be able to locate the camp you started from, it likely has an address or you have directions how to get there, the time it took you to walk to "le cabine" will give you a fairly good idea of distance, so that is your search radius... shouldn't be too hard after that!
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...359&spn=0.000917,0.002642&t=h&z=19

Now if you had taken a sample of the rocks just about 500m to the S and explained you were on a N facing dip slope, we could easily have worked out where you were!! (Wish Google was in stereo though).


User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

yeah i pretty sure because if you zoom out you can see how the track sort of curves around it and recognised the trees (which i didnt remember earlier...sorry) and the distance from cliff and i remember the path coming and going past the cabin i also remember i also the distance from the track so yeah i'm pretty certain thats it infact i'm positive. Im also gonna find out if my friend who was in the other group who actually made it to the destination (a church and grave yard) if he can point out where i was supposed to be and see how far off i was

once again thanks for your help



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User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Quoting speedbird9 (Reply 8):
and the distance from cliff and i remember the path coming and going past the cabin i also remember i also the distance from the track so yeah i'm pretty certain thats it infact i'm positive.

There was a super film called Du Pelvoux au Viso that made was in that area. Helicopter traverse up from the Pelvoux massif to Mt Viso.

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&s...315&spn=0.430215,1.056747&t=h&z=11

Not sure how you do Google links!!!!

http://www.antiqbook.nl/boox/ter/42581.shtml

Is a ref to a book, but the film was brilliant.

This is a reference to the film. I suppose they have not made a digital version.

http://translate.google.com.au/trans...zilla:en-GB:official%26channel%3Ds


User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

i found out where i was supposed to be

here is were i was
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...pn=0.001,0.002642&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=13
and heres were i was supposed to be
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...887&spn=0.007999,0.021136&t=h&z=16

thats a massive distance another reason why my leaders shouldnt let us loose with a map!



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6723 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

I was éclaireur until 18. It's "scout" in French, except that more common groups (catholics mostly) call themselves "scout". We were still using the same beige uniform with shorts and hat that Baden-Powell.

Anyway, I went several times in the Alps with my troop. I'm guessing what you call a cabin was a refuge, and usually they're called "refuge de something", for example refuge du pré Garreau in your case (just a guess). Didn't you take pictures ? Couldn't you get "unlost" by using you cell phone, or was that part of the idea ? In my time you wouldn't get a good reception but now it should be good. No GPS either ?

One thing we did was getting lost on purpose, and alone : the chiefs would blindfold us and bring us somewhere with the van and drop us with only a knife, up to us to get back to camp, and with a nice home made wooden spoon !

Once a member of a troop close to ours (the troup was so big it was cut in two) couldn't find his way home and the gendarmerie used an helo to find him, after that I think the practice was banned.

I'm guessing your hike was on a road or an easy trail, if you weren't with someone familiar with the mountain.



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User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2439 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 11):
Didn't you take pictures ?

i didnt manage to take a photo because when lost on the alps taking a photo was the last thing on my mind

Quoting Aesma (Reply 11):
Couldn't you get "unlost" by using you cell phone,

i was with the leaders number and i kinda forgot my phone at the camp we did manage to get contact after calling the UK and getting the number(it took us longer because the only person with signal forgot to put the international dialing code) and it was getting dark and i took us ages to walk and by the time we found the cabin it was getting dark

Quoting Aesma (Reply 11):
No GPS either ?

were what you would call in the UK a "Tesco Value" scout group basically we cant really afford non essential equipment like GPS


Quoting Aesma (Reply 11):
I'm guessing your hike was on a road or an easy trail, if you weren't with someone familiar with the mountain.

yeah we mainly went along a small but clear path and later a sort of gravel road but somehow we still managed to get lost   

it was the first time our troop had been to the area anyways but the route had been set out by someone who new the area but we were sent out on our own. I'll see if anyone else took a photo



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