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F1 2010: Korea  
User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Posted (3 years 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

So after all, it looks like the Korean GP will go ahead. It's getting down to the business end of the season with it looking more and more like a Red Bull Vs Alonso run to the championship. McLaren seem to be down on pace and have lost a bit of momentum needed to stay at the front and as an Australian, I'm hoping it's Webber who comes out in front of the fight at Red Bull.

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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

Thank you for opening the thread. Yes... another new racing track in a new place and there are more coming.

The newest that is being talked about is Sochi on the Black Sea in Russia. We are getting further and further away from the original tracks, Monza, Monaco, Spa, Silverstone and the old days of F1... to go where the new money is.

More night time F1 watching this coming weekend.

Hammy says: all hope not lost.
I wish him the very best. I would love to see him high up on the podium. He better get serious if he wants the title.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9090074.stm
http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2010/10/11385.html

 

Bernie says he wants to carry on past age 80 and that is only one week away.

 Wow!

Thiis one is for Kubica's fans
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9080455.stm

 

Pedro possibly back with HRT next season.............. Yes please!!!!!
http://en.espnf1.com/hrtf1/motorsport/story/31411.html

  

Two-day Grand Prix being discussed
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/31333.html

   

and another great race for Kamui!!!!!!!!!

                    



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3010 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
to go where the new money is.

Sadly, With FOM(Bernie) being addicted to the $$ and the number of races reaching saturation point we are going to see events being dropped.
Expect one of the Spanish races(both would not be a huge loss as they would be soulless and empty ghost races without Alonso), perhaps Germany, maybe Australia... even the "classics" of Spa, Monaco, Monza and Silverstone should not feel too smug.
In the next few years we wll see a whole championship run at "Tilke"dromes with huge, lavish and empty grandstands.
I have no idea why these countries with no motosport background to speak of are so intent on spending hundreds of millions on events that are meaningless to their population and of little real global marketing impact.

Perhaps it is time for a new Formula "Libre" championship run on some of the classic tracks... Watkins Glen, Philip Island, are a couple that come to mind!



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

Thanks for opening this one buddy.
We are off to totally new ground with no data stored. We know where the top teams will be, but I think we might see some fun stuff going on in the back of the mid field due to this.
Not sure if I actually look forward to this race as the new tracks are just as fun as watching paint dry. I hope I'm wrong and will get a pleasant surprise.

Quoting stealthz (Reply 2):
even the "classics" of Spa, Monaco, Monza and Silverstone should not feel too smug.

Spa will stay as it was brought back in to the calendar not long ago. Silverstone also to stay as it's undergoing major refurbishment, sort of. Also, these 2 tracks does not have emty stands like Turkey for example has.

Another weekend without being to sleep in. Life's hard for us F1 geeks.



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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

Quoting stealthz (Reply 2):
I have no idea why these countries with no motosport background to speak of are so intent on spending hundreds of millions on events that are meaningless to their population and of little real global marketing impact.

Tourism or Ego.

Quoting stealthz (Reply 2):
maybe Australia

Well if the Australian GP keeps loosing money the Victorian Government might beat Bernie to giving it the flick.


User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
I wish him the very best. I would love to see him high up on the podium. He better get serious if he wants the title.

To be honest, I don't think he has any chances left.

Quoting stealthz (Reply 2):
In the next few years we wll see a whole championship run at "Tilke"dromes with huge, lavish and empty grandstands.
I have no idea why these countries with no motosport background to speak of are so intent on spending hundreds of millions on events that are meaningless to their population and of little real global marketing impact.

  

Quoting stealthz (Reply 2):
Perhaps it is time for a new Formula "Libre" championship run on some of the classic tracks... Watkins Glen, Philip Island, are a couple that come to mind!

That would be nice! Really really nice.



"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one" - Moliere
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2920 times:

I am all for Formula Libre (reminds me of CubaLibre by the way) and I like the name F1 geek. I thought of myself as a F1 night owl but F1 geek also applies.

Tilkedromes (a great name) are dead boring I agree.
Bring back Imola!!!!



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10361 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

The Korean track is still a constructon site, and the accomodation situation must be horrible. Teams even had to book rooms in cheap red light hotels.

It´ll be interesting so see how it goes. This track is new for everyone, so surprises are likely. A Webber win would be the worst at Korea. I hope Alonso gives the Red Bull´s a hard time so that the year hopefully ends in a photo finish!


User currently offlinejush From Germany, joined Apr 2005, 1636 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2878 times:

Quoting stealthz (Reply 2):
adly, With FOM(Bernie) being addicted to the $$ and the number of races reaching saturation point we are going to see events being dropped.
Expect one of the Spanish races(both would not be a huge loss as they would be soulless and empty ghost races without Alonso), perhaps Germany, maybe Australia... even the "classics" of Spa, Monaco, Monza and Silverstone should not feel too smug.
In the next few years we wll see a whole championship run at "Tilke"dromes with huge, lavish and empty grandstands.
I have no idea why these countries with no motosport background to speak of are so intent on spending hundreds of millions on events that are meaningless to their population and of little real global marketing impact.

Perhaps it is time for a new Formula "Libre" championship run on some of the classic tracks... Watkins Glen, Philip Island, are a couple that come to mind!

Sadly you are absolutely right. They should give up some of these fancy new tracks and reinclude some with history and spirit.
Changing the rules back to pre 1998 would be a good thing too.
I still don't see why we should not refuel the cars and why we have these stupid tyre rules to gain some fake action during the race.
I still don't get why we have this type of qualifying? it's better than the one before but the best was still 60 minutes with 12 laps for each driver.
The whole money saving crap is crap too.- Let them spent as much as they want.

Regds
jush



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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 16 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

Quoting na (Reply 7):
The Korean track is still a constructon site, and the accomodation situation must be horrible. Teams even had to book rooms in cheap red light hotels.

I looked into going, but after getting to Seoul, I couldn't work out how to get even remotely close to the track.


User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 15 hours ago) and read 2834 times:

Quoting jush (Reply 8):
Changing the rules back to pre 1998 would be a good thing too.

Ah! I would also like this to happen. I always thought that part of the "real" F1 died when the 1998 rules were introduced.

Quoting jush (Reply 8):
I still don't get why we have this type of qualifying? it's better than the one before but the best was still 60 minutes with 12 laps for each driver.

Yes, I miss this format as well.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

I was too ill to watch the qualifyings middle of the night. For those who watched them what are your impressions of the new-est Tilke-drome?

   



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2753 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 11):
I was too ill to watch the qualifyings middle of the night

You mean free practise.  

If you have access you can watch FP sessions again via BBC's website.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 12):
You mean free practise.

If you have access you can watch FP sessions again via BBC's website.

I am not too well and feeling fuzzy so I am saying one thing for another.
I have no access to the BBC videos - for some reason we get blocked. Stupid politics and braodcasting rights.

I will do my best to watch P3 and qualifs at wee hours next coming night.
Seems that there will be a lot of changes in some of the teams, newbies coming in and drivers trading seats.

Also I see that there is more news of Spa being scrubbed in favour of a new Tilke-drome in India, Russia or the U.S.
These new tracks.... baaahhh...  Wow!

... I was told about a proxy that works rather well to access "unacessible" videos. I will have to install it and see if it works.

[Edited 2010-10-22 02:08:14]


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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

Apparently the track is very dustly. Many drivers spun last night.

Also, if they remove Spa for another Tilke crap, I'll stop watching F1 altogether. Anyway, there are less and less GPs in Europe, so at some point I will not be able to identify myself with this competition.



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 14):
Also, if they remove Spa for another Tilke crap, I'll stop watching F1 altogether

I find it very odd to remove a track that is so loved by both drivers and fans. Spa is one of the tracks that all drivers want to win on due to it's status. A bit like Monaco.

So,
Shall we go for that break away serie after all as I don't think there will be many teams that actually supports all these bling bling tracks in the future.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2707 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 15):
I find it very odd to remove a track that is so loved by both drivers and fans. Spa is one of the tracks that all drivers want to win on due to it's status. A bit like Monaco.

For Ecclestone, money beats the opinion of the drivers.



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2686 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 16):
For Ecclestone, money beats the opinion of the drivers.

As true as it gets, but I really think this will bite him in the a$$ one day.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 17):

I am curious to see if they will fill the grandstands tomorrow and Sunday at this new Tilke-drome in Korea. Let's see how this is going to turn out. Any idea what the prices are? Have they made it really cheap as it's a first time for F1 in that country so they can fill the seats?

Also I understand they had to house some of the teams and some of the staff in cheap hotels in the red light district (an area called Mokpo) not too far away and those who are staying there are really bothered because they cannot sleep.
http://fr.espnf1.com/korea/motorsport/story/31822.html
Only the rich teams got the usual 5 star hotels much further away as they get to ride in helicopters and chaufffeured private cars.

It will soon be time to have a breakaway F1 with none of these crappy new tracks.
Bring back Imola!



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

Qualifying Results

Q1
1 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
2 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
3 Spain F Alonso Ferrari
4 Australia M Webber Red Bull
5 Brazil F Massa Ferrari
6 Poland R Kubica Renault
7 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes
8 Germany M Schumacher Mercedes
9 Germany N Hulkenberg Williams
10 Great Britain J Button McLaren
11 Germany N Heidfeld BMW Sauber
12 Russia V Petrov Renault
13 Brazil R Barrichello Williams
14 Japan K Kobayashi BMW Sauber
15 Germany A Sutil Force India
16 Spain J Alguersuari Toro Rosso
17 Switzerland S Buemi Toro Rosso
Out
18 Italy V Liuzzi Force India
19 Italy J Trulli Lotus
20 Germany T Glock Virgin
21 Finland H Kovalainen Lotus
22 Brazil L di Grassi Virgin
23 Japan S Yamamoto Hispania
24 Brazil B Senna Hispania

  

Q2

1 Australia M Webber Red Bull
2 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
3 Brazil F Massa Ferrari
4 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
5 Spain F Alonso Ferrari
6 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes
7 Great Britain J Button McLaren
8 Poland R Kubica Renault
9 Germany M Schumacher Mercedes
10 Brazil R Barrichello Williams

11 Germany N Hulkenberg Williams
12 Japan K Kobayashi BMW Sauber
13 Germany N Heidfeld BMW Sauber
14 Germany A Sutil Force India
15 Russia V Petrov Renault
16 Spain J Alguersuari Toro Rosso
17 Switzerland S Buemi Toro Rosso
18 Italy V Liuzzi Force India
19 Italy J Trulli Lotus
20 Germany T Glock Virgin
21 Finland H Kovalainen Lotus
22 Brazil L di Grassi Virgin
23 Japan S Yamamoto Hispania
24 Brazil B Senna Hispania

Q3

SEBASTIAN VETTEL QUALIFIES ON POLE FOR THE KOREAN GRAND PRIX

1 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
2 Australia M Webber Red Bull
3 Spain F Alonso Ferrari
4 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
5 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes
6 Brazil F Massa Ferrari
7 Great Britain J Button McLaren
8 Poland R Kubica Renault
9 Germany M Schumacher Mercedes
10 Brazil R Barrichello Williams
11 Germany N Hulkenberg Williams
12 Japan K Kobayashi BMW Sauber
13 Germany N Heidfeld BMW Sauber
14 Germany A Sutil Force India
15 Russia V Petrov Renault
16 Spain J Alguersuari Toro Rosso
17 Switzerland S Buemi Toro Rosso
18 Italy V Liuzzi Force India
19 Italy J Trulli Lotus
20 Germany T Glock Virgin
21 Finland H Kovalainen Lotus
22 Brazil L di Grassi Virgin
23 Japan S Yamamoto Hispania
24 Brazil B Senna Hispania


The Red Bulls are the fastest....

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[Edited 2010-10-22 23:07:10]


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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

Again Vettel is showing what he's made of. I like the fact that despite all the negative talks about him, he raises above to the challenge, over and over again. Pretty cool.
Great job by Webber as well as Alonso looked set to take pool from middle of Q2 up until the flag dropped in Q3.

Will be interesting to see how far Barichello's complaint against Schumi goes for holding him up.



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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2630 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 18):

It will soon be time to have a breakaway F1 with none of these crappy new tracks.
Bring back Imola!

No it won't. The teams are just as interested in the bottom line as Ecclestone is. As long as the teams are happy there is no chance of a breakaway.

Quoting sudden (Reply 20):
Again Vettel is showing what he's made of. I like the fact that despite all the negative talks about him, he raises above to the challenge, over and over again. Pretty cool.

That is true. But you have to remember he's only converted 2 out of 8 pole starts this year to wins. I'm hoping Webber gets the jump on him, tho I have doubts since Webber is on the very dirty side of the track and also struggled with getting good starts.


User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2606 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 20):
Will be interesting to see how far Barichello's complaint against Schumi goes for holding him up.

And here's the answer,
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/10/11421.html



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 22):

And here's the answer,
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin....html

Wha if it had happened the other way around?
Would you think Rubens would be just "reprimanded"?

Schumi seems to have it at Rubens for some particular reason...    



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 23):
Wha if it had happened the other way around?
Would you think Rubens would be just "reprimanded"?

I don't think anything would happen to Rubens. Simply cause Schumi is a far less clean driver then Barichello.
This is not the first time this season that Schumi is careless, and we all know what sort of stunts he pulled in the past.


Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 23):
Schumi seems to have it at Rubens for some particular reason.

Nah, Schumi is just being Schumi, and Barichello raises his voice about it. Charlie Whiting is not stupid either, so Schumi needs to watch out a bit.



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25 MadameConcorde : Hammy better be awake and fully concentrated tomorrow all through race time or he can just as well say goodbye to the title. The same applies to Jenso
26 sudden : The only advantage the Mclaren cars have over RBR is the straight line speed. For the rest RBR is ahead.
27 MadameConcorde : The Red Bulls are tops I admit but the McLarens are extremely good cars. The drivers are the problem. There is something about hte two that keeps the
28 Post contains images bill142 : Yeah because McLaren only employs bad drivers. And both of them found their World Championships in the bottom of the cornflakes packet Correct. The M
29 LTU932 : I personally have given up on F1, not just because of the Tilkedromes that are becoming the standard in F1, the whole greed that is killing traditiona
30 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Race about to start That Tilke-drome.. ... raining... and MUD... on the track's side ways... If the cars slide, they are going to bring that slush on
31 Aesma : When I see this circuit, in the middle of nowhere, it is clear that Bernie screwed France big time when he said Magny Cours wasn't interesting because
32 MadameConcorde : This will be a safety car departure due to the weather conditions. They are all on full wets - a 10 minutes delay so all the teams can change their ty
33 N6238P : Race red flagged. Does F1 have any kind of track drying equipment? Maybe something to at least remove the standing water?
34 bill142 : Red Flag. They need to look at the rules for wet weather races. After canceling quali in Japan and now this.. Behind the safety car, it's entirely pre
35 MadameConcorde : They say no weather improvement for the next 40 minutes... This is from the typhoon Megie that hit the Philippines and Tahwan. Really bad... This is t
36 EZEIZA : this is utter BS! It's 3.35 am right now in Argentina and we have no idea what's going to happen ... yes, it was raining heavily, but now it looks lik
37 N6238P : If they build a flat track on a marsh, where did they think the water was going to go?
38 MadameConcorde : I totally agree with you. This is pathetic. You see brushing trucks and men with brooms sweeping the slush on the sides... this is ridiculous... Bring
39 DiamondFlyer : Or just buy some jet dryers. But hey I mean, with F1 being such a technical sport, they can't do that. I mean even NASCAR with the 1950's technology
40 EZEIZA : unbelievable! F1 2010, and they are taking the water out with BROOMS!! If they don't make a decision in the next 10 minutes I'm going to bed. I don't
41 N6238P : Only the worlds most technical motorsport could pull off a event like this. At least in 2002 at Surfers Paradise when CART let the field parade behind
42 Post contains images MadameConcorde : So now they don't race because of the water and later they will have to stop the race because it will be getting too dark? Why did they have this race
43 photopilot : And now they're talking about a short or 1/2 points race because it gets dark so early in Korea. Sunset is in less than 2 hours from now so chances of
44 EZEIZA : ok it seems like the race will be resumed in 9 minutes ...
45 Post contains images N6238P : One of my favorite pictures from about 6 weeks ago. I'm excited that if anyone goes off track they'll need a winch and a case of Busch Light to get e
46 Post contains images MadameConcorde : This is typhoon weather. Now it's raining again and it will keep raining off and on during the race. And then it will be getting dark and they will ha
47 EZEIZA : wowwwww Webber out! Alonso was lucky not to crash into him ... anything can happen today. After so much BS something interesting is actually happening
48 Post contains images racko : It was a very exciting 2 laps.
49 photopilot : Well, Weber has to be praying for a short race and 1/2 points. That would at least limit his losses today. Less than an hour till sunset, and more tha
50 MadameConcorde : So Webber lost control of his car and Nico could not help but hitting him? Do I get it right???
51 racko : Yeah. 42 laps needed for full points.
52 racko : This race is ridiculous. The crane is on the track even though the Safety Car is not out.
53 MadameConcorde : More rain coming... this is a fun race!!!! spins and bumps and hits and breakups and cars going off.... Intermediates are the wrong choice... OK safet
54 Post contains images CPH-R : 33 laps, will they get to the magic 42? A shame I'm listening to music on my headset at the moment, because I'd love to hear what Tom Kristensen, who
55 photopilot : Alonso has a problem in the pits and drops to third, but then Hamilton throws away his new 2nd place by overdriving the first turn. Not a great move b
56 MadameConcorde : I bet Alonso will pass Vettel. His car seems a lot faster and he does not make mistakes. Hammy's car does not seem at the top. Alonso passed him reall
57 CPH-R : You know, for some reason (and possibly because I've been watching Top Gear clips earlier this morning), I can't help thinking of that feature Top Gea
58 MadameConcorde : It will be full points. They passed the 42. Hammy is catching up with Alonso. The sun is starting to set. There is no more chance of rain.
59 MadameConcorde : Here's to a happy MadameConcorde... no more Red Bulls!!!!!!!! The car is on fire!!!!!!! Alonso is in first place!!!! Hammy will get points!!!!!! wow w
60 LHR380 : Is this a banger race or F1. I dont think I have seen so many accidents and off course driving!
61 MadameConcorde : Hammy is ending the race with shot tyres... Let's hope he can get to the end...
62 Post contains images EZEIZA : What a disaster for Red Bull! I did not see this coming at all! So this race turned out to be the best possible race for Ferrar after all the mess tha
63 racko : Red Bull really needs to switch to a decent engine manufacturer if they want to win something in the future.
64 Springbok747 : WOHOOO!! Go Alonso! Go Ferrari! What a race! It was so dark at the end..good job by Hamilton too!
65 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Woohooo!!!!! No Red Bulls!!!!! Congratulations to Fernando Alonso for another race without mistakes!!!! The man is sharp!!!!! Go Hammy!!!!! I am so ha
66 Post contains images sudden : Congrats to Alonso. Great drive. That said, Vettel didn't deserve this. He drove a solid race and should have been the winner. Yeah, they are for sure
67 MadameConcorde : I bet there will be big partying at the Ferrari place in Maranello. Two of their drivers on the podium in this most uncertain race and the Italian ant
68 Post contains images bill142 : Yep. Because they're both bad drivers. In Abu Dhabi.
69 Post contains images CXB77L : I'm very disappointed at this result. Vettel drove an extremely good race, and was unlucky not to win. Now he's 25 points down with 2 races to go ...
70 Post contains images sudden : Yeah, Rosberg need to find another job far away from racing. I mean, he shuold have known better then driving in to Webber who was totally out of con
71 Post contains images ogre727 : This sucks... there is only one thing I hate more than Ferrari, and thats Fernando Alonso.... worst result ever.
72 Post contains images codeshare : Yeehaa. From what looked wet and boring race what we got was a sort of a thriller. Seb did not make it. Neither did Webbo. I feel kind of sorry for We
73 photopilot : Poppycock........ A Formula One car is supposed to run down the track, NOT back-and-forth across it. Perhaps Nico should have tele-ported himself and
74 EZEIZA : I agree. Vettel's race was as asolid as Alonso's and I think they were both very happy with their positions. Alonso did not look he was going to risk
75 Post contains images sudden : I'm impressed! First race this season you actually didn't find boring!? Best part of your post is that you didn't read previous posts, and therefore
76 bill142 : Correct. I was being sarcastic. Look at posts 27 and 28 to see where it all started. That could have been interesting. I suspect that it would have b
77 Post contains images cpd : Isn't the general idea something like you point your car at where the spinning car is, because by the time you get there, it won't be there? That was
78 Post contains images Springbok747 : Exactly! It was great to actually go to bed early for once on a raceday
79 Post contains images cpd : And not wake up early on the Monday morning feeling really bad! Generally on the Monday morning, my normal coffee place knows to make my coffee a dou
80 Post contains images EZEIZA : technically I want to bed early too .. 6 am. Not nice!
81 Post contains images Baroque : Greenland moved its time zone has it. Pity they cannot figure out a way to show how dark it appears to the eye as opposed to the TV cameras. You need
82 CXB77L : I wanted the race stopped too. I wanted Vettel to win that badly that I had lost all sense of objectivity by then. They should've stopped the race af
83 sudden : hahahah........this just gets better and better. Your screwed now Bill142, and I think a permanent ban on your IP is in place.
84 bill142 : This just proves that there is a great need for a sarcasm font in this world. Vettel was whinging that it was too wet. Then that it was too dark. Lew
85 Post contains images codeshare : Or a sip of Red Bull to lighten things up perhaps ? KS/codeshare
86 Post contains images Springbok747 : Ah yes..I've seem to have gotten used to those Mondays though..haha. And yes. Coffee is good :P He should have had some Red Bull and gotten some wiin
87 Post contains images MadameConcorde : How about infra-red goggles? That might have helped him in the dark - and it was not really dark yet at the time his engine caught fire and he had to
88 sudden : Money and luxury doesn't help him win races. He's very competitive, and as a racer his only goal is to win. Being taken out like that doesn't help. R
89 Post contains images EZEIZA : well, as a Ferrari fan I wanted the race to go through the end, but I would not have been upset if they had stopped it at lap 42. Alonso's 2nd place
90 Post contains images MadameConcorde : We need to realize that F1 is mostly about big money. They have hired two newbies, Perez from Mexico with the promise of $$ Millions of sponsorship fr
91 codeshare : Re-runs ? You, Madame, at least also have photos from the races to look at. KS/codeshare
92 EZEIZA : we'll have the first few days talking about who deserved to win and whoi was lucky/unlucky. After that its just darkness until march ... well, if the
93 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Those Nouveau Russian Billionaires seem to prefer putting their fortunes into football buying whole teams rather than spending it sponsoring F1. Some
94 Post contains images bill142 : The Midland team, which after a few name changes is now Force India was Russian owned. He has every right to be pissed. It was simply a case of the w
95 cornish : Exactly. Lets face it, almost every driver in F1 are spoilt rich kids and daddy's boys. Very few come from more humble backgrounds. But in Nico's cas
96 CXB77L : I agree. I wouldn't have thought Williams would be a team to take on pay drivers. Hulkenberg is talented, and I'm sure in time he'll develop into a f
97 Post contains images sudden : This is really nothing new in this sport, and Williams doesn't lose any respect if they decide to do so. It's as simple as money makes this sport go
98 cornish : Unfortunately they are losing two major sponsors at the end of this season. Unless they can replace them with companies willing to put in similar amo
99 Post contains links stealthz : In the Japan GP thread GrahamHill made mention of his weekend motorsport.. especially the V8SuperCars at Bathurst in Australia. Enjoy this 12 minutes
100 Post contains links BlueElephant : Hello all, sorry been very busy in the office but following a bit here and there Korea race for me was ok, It would have been better if it was dry or
101 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : On Track With SAP - Composites a series of one minute films providing bite-size insights into Formula One technology. This clip focuses on composites.
102 Post contains links and images sudden : Or even sooner!? Fair point though as there is indeed not many seats up for grab. On the other hand we know how open it all is before we really have
103 bill142 : I agree with him too. However, I do wonder if he were still head of the FIA, would he have had the balls to strip Ferrari and Alonso of the points? I
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