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President Obama, "they Gotta Sit In Back".  
User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

Now if a white politician had said this how many seconds would it have taken Rev. Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton to hit the airwaves and start denouncing them?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101025/ap_on_el_pr/us_obama

He said Republicans had driven the economy into a ditch and then stood by and criticized while Democrats pulled it out. Now that progress has been made, he said, "we can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

Now that's a uniter and not a divider!!!    BTW, exactly what does he mean when he says democrats (notice the use of the word "democrats" not "democratics" or "democratic party") pulled it out? 9%+ unemployment and a barely breathing GDP is pulling it out? Then by that standard President Reagan not only pulled it out, he super tuned it into a NASCAR racing machine without a restrictor plate.

Even the man running for Governor of the State of Rhode Island on the democratic party ticket passed on seeing him and I would think it would be kind of hard not to run into someone in 5 hours of traveling around Rhode Island.

Nor was his greeting totally friendly in Rhode Island where Obama has pointedly declined to endorse his party's candidate for governor.

Obama can "take his endorsement and shove it," declared Democrat Frank Caprio, battling Republican-turned-independent Lincoln Chafee in a gubernatorial race rated tight in the polls. Chafee endorsed Obama during the 2008 campaign for the White House.


Guess that guy has had enough change!

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User currently offlinegosimeon From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 3329 times:

Talk about Fox News Radio talking points man.

Obama has every right to be tired of trying to play ball with the Republicans, when they have no interest in meeting half-way on anything. Many Democrats are actually annoyed that he has tried to hard to accommodate both sides on many debates when he could have been more direct.

I've been amazed at how much some Republicans love to play the "victimised" card because they aren't in power. Obama has done extremely little to actually get you annoyed, but still you'd think he is trying to make America into the USSR the way some people go on.

It's election time. He is getting flamed from all over the place, he has a right to flame back.


User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6372 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 3316 times:

I'm no Obama fan, I tend to actually hate him (and most politicians), but...this seems like a bitttt of a stretch to me, man...

User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 3311 times:

Quoting dxing (Thread starter):
Now if a white politician had said this how many seconds would it have taken Rev. Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton to hit the airwaves and start denouncing them?

I agree! There are many white politicians that have made similar remarks, and have been branded racist by the dynamic duo of Jessie and Al, and were forced to resign. Now I personally find nothing offensive with Pres. Obama's statement, because I understand what he was saying, but had a white politician made the same statement his career would be over, and THAT, is what offends me! Explain to me when this double standard will end.

I am by no means calling for the resignation of the POTUS, just commenting on this DX's quote, nothing more.

[Edited 2010-10-28 05:40:06]

User currently offlinegosimeon From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

If you mind me asking, where does Obama's comment bring race up? I read it as saying, basicly, Republicans can "shut up and put up with my policies". I don't understand how race is in the equation here...

User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

Just a pity there is not a parallel US run by Reps for comparison. Could be very instructive. Tell me, Dxing, have you ever looked at the rate of shedding jobs for the first few months of this recession, that is when under the command of Bush - he was a Republican if you cast yr mind back?

30s revisited


Just to be clear, the 10 month mark for this disaster is about Dec 2008.

Anything less than total disaster is a bloody miracle and actually Bush did try and improve matters after snoozing away while the disaster developed. So don't say I do not give credit to Reps where due. Would make a change if .....

[Edited 2010-10-28 06:21:20]

[Edited 2010-10-28 06:22:03]

User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 4):
If you mind me asking, where does Obama's comment bring race up? I read it as saying, basicly, Republicans can "shut up and put up with my policies". I don't understand how race is in the equation here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks

In Montgomery, the first four rows of bus seats were reserved for white people. Buses had "colored" sections for black people—who made up more than 75% of the bus system's riders—generally in the rear of the bus. These sections were not fixed in size but were determined by the placement of a movable sign. Black people could sit in the middle rows, until the white section was full. Then they had to move to seats in the rear, stand, or, if there was no room, leave the bus. Black people were not allowed to sit across the aisle from white people. The driver also could move the "colored" section sign, or remove it altogether. If white people were already sitting in the front, black people could board to pay the fare, but then had to disembark and reenter through the rear door. There were times when the bus departed before the black customers who had paid made it to the back entrance.

For years, the black community had complained that the situation was unfair, and Parks was no exception: "My resisting being mistreated on the bus did not begin with that particular arrest...I did a lot of walking in Montgomery."[14] Parks had her first run-in on the public bus on a rainy day in 1943, when the bus driver, James F. Blake, demanded that she get off the bus and reenter through the back door. As she began to exit by the front door, she dropped her purse. Parks sat down for a moment in a seat for white passengers to pick up her purse. The bus driver was enraged and barely let her step off the bus before speeding off.

The Majority of Black Americans vote Dem.


User currently offlinegosimeon From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 6):
In Montgomery, the first four rows of bus seats were reserved for white people. Buses had "colored" sections for black people—who made up more than 75% of the bus system's riders—generally in the rear of the bus. These sections were not fixed in size but were determined by the placement of a movable sign. Black people could sit in the middle rows, until the white section was full. Then they had to move to seats in the rear, stand, or, if there was no room, leave the bus. Black people were not allowed to sit across the aisle from white people. The driver also could move the "colored" section sign, or remove it altogether. If white people were already sitting in the front, black people could board to pay the fare, but then had to disembark and reenter through the rear door. There were times when the bus departed before the black customers who had paid made it to the back entrance.

For years, the black community had complained that the situation was unfair, and Parks was no exception: "My resisting being mistreated on the bus did not begin with that particular arrest...I did a lot of walking in Montgomery."[14] Parks had her first run-in on the public bus on a rainy day in 1943, when the bus driver, James F. Blake, demanded that she get off the bus and reenter through the back door. As she began to exit by the front door, she dropped her purse. Parks sat down for a moment in a seat for white passengers to pick up her purse. The bus driver was enraged and barely let her step off the bus before speeding off.

The Majority of Black Americans vote Dem.

Do you really think he was referring to this? The phrase "backseat" is common, and not racist. I think people saying he was referring to the Rosanna Parks incident and the laws at that time is plain silly.


User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 3272 times:

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 4):
If you mind me asking, where does Obama's comment bring race up? I read it as saying, basicly, Republicans can "shut up and put up with my policies". I don't understand how race is in the equation here...

Before the 1960's many states (mostly Southern) by law required blacks to sit in the BACK of buses, and many other idiocies that were lumped under the term Jim Crow laws. Look up Rosa Parks, there's mountains of information about it, that should be a good starting point. So, the opener is right, the race pimps would have been all over a white person saying that, claiming they think we should go back to Segregation blah blah blah. It's one of the unfortunate realities of American politics, and it has happened over and over again.

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 1):
I've been amazed at how much some Republicans love to play the "victimised" card because they aren't in power.

Standard lines from the minority party. We were hearing the same horsesqueeze from the Democrats before 2006.

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 1):
Obama has done extremely little to actually get you annoyed,

THAT depends on your political views. Personally, I think that promising the American people the moon when you know you cannot deliver it is grounds for extreme annoyance...The HOPEY/CHANGEY foolishness was annoying from the start. Why so many people managed to fall for it is beyond me. I would say that's confirmation that Americans are indeed stupid, but then I think back to those rock concerts in Germany Obama went to during his campaign...the Germans must be pretty stupid as well.   


User currently offlinegosimeon From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

OK after looking up the comment, in context, it turns out he was referring to Al Franken's earlier remarks that the Democrats were pulling the car (economy) out of a ditch and the Republicans were doing nothing to help.

So... a bit of context clears that one up.


User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11807 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 3119 times:

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 13):
a bit of context clears that one up.

Context only matters when a right-winger uses a metaphor. Otherwise, every single Democrat is a racist and socialist at heart.

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 1):
I've been amazed at how much some Republicans love to play the "victimised" card because they aren't in power.

This is a perfect way of explaining things! I have been trying to point this out since 2006 when Dems regained control of the House.

BTW, for all the right-wingers out there: How's that socialism working out for you? Remember how right-wingers all ran around screaming the Constitution would be suspended and we would be a socialist country? When, exactly, did that happen?



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User currently offlinewindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2755 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 3097 times:

More divisive politics from the community agitator. Sure am glad we voted in a failed lawyer/law professor with no experience as our president. Hope...Change....And Michelle just says we have to give "it" more time...LOL


OMG-Obama Must Go
User currently offlinesan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 12):

So all Republicans are Fuckwits, because they do not believe in the same Socialistic ideals, as a non-US Citizen?

If you still believe Obama is a socialist who wasn't born in this country, maybe...

Quoting windy95 (Reply 16):
Hope...Change....And Michelle just says we have to give "it" more time...LOL

You could try giving him at least his full term before you judge how "terrible" he's been. Bush-bashing didn't begin in earnest until the 2004 election either.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 1):
He is getting flamed from all over the place,

For good reason he lied out of every side of his mouth to get elected and now we are in a bigger mess than before. The people know it and are about to hand him a huge defeat. Is FOX making too much out of this? Of course but it's the stretch run and both sides are going to do some really nasty stuff now till Tues.

Quoting windy95 (Reply 16):
More divisive politics from the community agitator. Sure am glad we voted in a failed lawyer/law professor with no experience as our president. Hope...Change....And Michelle just says we have to give "it" more time...LOL

LOL yea. First time in her adult life she was proud of her country, Well this Tuesday will be the first time a lot of us have been proud since he got elected.


User currently offlineacidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 3071 times:
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User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

Quoting san747 (Reply 12):
Bush-bashing didn't begin in earnest until the 2004 election either.

To be fair, Bush would have started getting bashed a lot sooner if not for his post-9/11 honeymoon period.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20362 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

Quoting dxing (Thread starter):


Now if a white politician had said this how many seconds would it have taken Rev. Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton to hit the airwaves and start denouncing them?

That's a reach. Oh, I agree Jackson and Sharpton --windbags that they are-- would have jumped all over it, but that doesn't mean that we should listen to it.


User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 12 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 1):
Obama has done extremely little to actually get you annoyed,

Obama care? Stimulus? Cap and Trade? That's only a start.

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 4):

If you mind me asking, where does Obama's comment bring race up?

It doesn't. But the comment, in this country reflects what has been pointed out to you, namely that blacks were forced to sit in the back of the bus if they wanted to ride in the old south. Had a white politician used the same metaphor all hell would have broken loose on the left.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 5):
Just a pity there is not a parallel US run by Reps for comparison. Could be very instructive. Tell me, Dxing, have you ever looked at the rate of shedding jobs for the first few months of this recession, that is when under the command of Bush - he was a Republican if you cast yr mind back?

Strange that they don't reference the recession in the Reagan years. Job loss was even greater, interest rates were higher, and the housing industry actually took a harder hit than it did in 2008. No spending spree, tax cuts and using financial policy to help the private sector recover. That recession started in July 1981 and ended around the mid-term elections of 1982. That began one of the longest peace time expansions in our country's history. Don't think we'll get the same this time around. You can blame President Bush all you wish, but if you want to blame him for the recession happening then you need to place blame for the failure of the recovery on President Obama.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 10):
Context only matters when a right-winger uses a metaphor. Otherwise, every single Democrat is a racist and socialist at heart.

Oh    you know full well if Sen. McConnell or Rep. Boehner had said the same thing the left leaning media would have gone into overdrive charging that they had used a racial slur.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 10):
When, exactly, did that happen?

The day Obama Care passed.

Quoting san747 (Reply 12):
You could try giving him at least his full term before you judge how "terrible" he's been. Bush-bashing didn't begin in earnest until the 2004 election either.

   Do the phrases "selected not elected", "chimp in chief", etc. etc. What beach front property in Arizona do you have up for sale this week?

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
That's a reach. Oh, I agree Jackson and Sharpton --windbags that they are-- would have jumped all over it, but that doesn't mean that we should listen to it.

They would have only been the start. It would have made front page news on the NYT and Washington Post and snowballed from there.


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8297 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 12 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 13):
Well this Tuesday will be the first time a lot of us have been proud since he got elected.

Gee that's nice. I still won't be proud. I've only been back in the states three months and I'm already at my wits' end with the rancor, rudeness, and utter lack of respect that currently permeates daily American life. And this is only in paradise - can't imagine back on the mainland. Just this last weekend my wife and I saw a group of teenagers laughing no more than three feet from a homeless man coughing up blood all over the sidewalk. Just couldn't give a damn.



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 5373 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 2865 times:

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 1):
Talk about Fox News Radio talking points man.

  

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 1):
Obama has every right to be tired of trying to play ball with the Republicans, when they have no interest in meeting half-way on anything. Many Democrats are actually annoyed that he has tried to hard to accommodate both sides on many debates when he could have been more direct.

Indeed that's one of my biggest complaints about Obama. When you see that the other party has tried to give you the boot since election night and wants nothing to do with you, tell them to go to hell and move on. Obama should have done that a long time ago.

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 1):
I've been amazed at how much some Republicans love to play the "victimised" card because they aren't in power.

   But God forbid a minority speak about an instance of legitimate racism or bigotry, these same Republicans are the first to jump down their throats and tell them to stop playing the part of the victim.

Quoting san747 (Reply 12):
You could try giving him at least his full term before you judge how "terrible" he's been. Bush-bashing didn't begin in earnest until the 2004 election either.

Indeed.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 18):
Gee that's nice.

Did you honestly expect anything else?



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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 1):
It's election time. He is getting flamed from all over the place, he has a right to flame back.


Flaming is the least he deserves...impeachment would be more suitable...The man is NOT worthy of the throne and we are NOT his servants, technically he is a public servant and is in fact working for us and being payed by us, the American people. If we differ with his agenda as we do we have every right to hold a flame to his butt. If he doesn't like the ride he can get off.


User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 5373 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 20):
impeachment would be more suitable

Please humor us and provide examples of impeachable offenses committed by President Obama.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21877 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 7):
Do you really think he was referring to this? The phrase "backseat" is common, and not racist.

Of course he wasn't referring to it. But it's still not a great choice of words.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 13):
Well this Tuesday will be the first time a lot of us have been proud since he got elected.

What fairweather patriotism.  

-Mir



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User currently offlinesan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 7 hours ago) and read 2779 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 21):

Please humor us and provide examples of impeachable offenses committed by President Obama.

He's not a Republican. He went to an Ivy League school. He believes that as members of a society, we should be concerned with the quality of life of ALL Americans, not just ourselves.

In today's America, that is blasphemy.



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User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 7 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

Quoting dxing (Reply 17):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 5):
Just a pity there is not a parallel US run by Reps for comparison. Could be very instructive. Tell me, Dxing, have you ever looked at the rate of shedding jobs for the first few months of this recession, that is when under the command of Bush - he was a Republican if you cast yr mind back?

Strange that they don't reference the recession in the Reagan years. Job loss was even greater, interest rates were higher, and the housing industry actually took a harder hit than it did in 2008. No spending spree, tax cuts and using financial policy to help the private sector recover. That recession started in July 1981 and ended around the mid-term elections of 1982. That began one of the longest peace time expansions in our country's history. Don't think we'll get the same this time around. You can blame President Bush all you wish, but if you want to blame him for the recession happening then you need to place blame for the failure of the recovery on President Obama.

As Doulgoid would have said, "So's yer mother" is no kind of argument.

Re the recovery, I suppose you checked on the time when recoveries became apparent in those two earlier recessions? Noting that the current one seems at least twice as deep as those two, a recovery time greater than that noted for those might be expected??????


25 dxing : Which is why I point to the recession most like the one we are just coming out of, namely the 1981-1983 recession. Just as deep, just as long, much s
26 NIKV69 : If it's a choice between this and slaughering whales I think I would chose laughing at a homeless man.
27 Baroque : No preferences at all, just it did not happen to be on the graph I had. So I look forward to being educated by your posting a comparison graph with t
28 cws818 : How did he fail at being a law professor?
29 Post contains links Baroque : Cannot answer that cws as student assessmnents of the average law prof do not rate the same publicity as failing oil companies: http://alaric3rh.home
30 Post contains images Mudboy : I understand you have a deep-seeded hatred for former Pres. GW Bush, but he has been out of office for almost 2 yrs, so why do we have to keep bringi
31 AKviator : Disgusting how democrats keep blaming Obamas failing on Bush. Bush has been gone for 20 whole months you elitists, obviously any decision he made or
32 Aaron747 : Missed the point entirely. How utterly typical.
33 Post contains images Baroque : Deep seeded, so that is where all those bloody weeds keep coming from. Just as long as I don't get an attack of either tumble-weed or locoweed, I cou
34 Mudboy : yeah right, I know , I am from the south and we say seeded, rather seated. But in addressing this I feel it applies more to your core, than your stan
35 soon7x7 : While technically he may not have committed impeachable offenses however, if the general consensus of his performance as the commander and chief must
36 Post contains links dxing : The chart is in the link and shows all recessions from 1974 on. http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time....g-this-recession-to-the-last-five/ There is al
37 Mir : Then impeachment is not suitable. End of argument. -Mir
38 Baroque : Interesting, why did he stop updating on Monday, February 9, 2009 at 11:05 am?? By my reckoning we would know with an extra 19 months a lot more abou
39 soon7x7 : As stated...it is not worth discussing at this juncture...
40 Post contains images star_world : Brilliant. That's one of the best back-tracking moves I've seen in a while. So let's get this straight - you want him impeached because you don't lik
41 Post contains links Baroque : You could also try a number of other sites. http://www.voxeu.org/sites/default/files/image/un-duration1.gif This rather suggests the 1980-81 rates of
42 dxing : Perhaps because the article is in response to the chart you posted in reply 5 which was put out by the Speakers office on Feburary 6, 2009 as is show
43 soon7x7 : What about them?...Americans didn't ask for a changed America as in the sense of Obama's vision..they wanted the derailment by the former administrat
44 bjorn14 : Election fraud. Every candidate is supposed to know who their donors are. How does one raise ($600MM) triple the amount of the previous record off th
45 Baroque : Oh, I see, so just one month into Obama's term the recession was solved so no need to follow it any further?? Or the Reps gave up at that point??? Th
46 PWM2TXLHopper : Yeah, tell me about it! The guy says things all the time that if a Republican, or white person said, they'd be annihilated and crucified for! Remembe
47 dxing : Hardly. What they show is that the recovery is taking much longer. From your second link: The gist of both charts is that the US economy is in unchar
48 Post contains links windy95 : "He did not hold the title of Professor of Law," said Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an Assistant Dean for Communications and Lecturer in Law at the Unive
49 caliatenza : As far as i understand it, the tax rates on those making over $250k per year would go back to the Clinton era rates, which i recall, werent too bad a
50 dxing : The graph in the link is tied and based on the graph you presented in reply 5. So in essence you are impugning yourself for using a graph that only g
51 Baroque : No no no, not upset at the graph, just astonished at your apparent inability to read the graphs. The totality of the graphs indicate the job loss was
52 Post contains images futurepilot16 : Wow, I guess since it's election time, ya gotta dig up stuff even when it's not there. I guess it's tough for you to see it, since you're so far righ
53 STT757 : Wow talk about over exaggeration; He is obviously referencing the family car as the "back seat", not the Metropolitan bus.
54 cws818 : Not a surprise - that title applies to full-time, tenured faculty. I'll ask again what about his time as law professor (which is not the same as Prof
55 bjorn14 : He was an Adjunct Professor...taught 1 class a semester, Students who attended his classes said they mainly talked about basketball and cars. But wha
56 Aaron747 : Wow, he finally admitted where the man is from!!
57 PWM2TXLHopper : As opposed to what? The CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, Koolaid? Must be a reason they are the highest rated and most watched cable news? Because they pre
58 Post contains links Aphonic : Quoting Baroque (Reply 51): but hey I know nothing will convince you that a process that started about 14 months before Obama was elected was not enti
59 Post contains links dxing : Check out the bureau of labor statistics if you don't believe me. Unemployment topped out during Nov-Dec of 1982 at 10.8 percent. Compare that to a h
60 Post contains links Aphonic : Baroque, Did Obama adding 3 trillion to the National debt in 2 years help matters here in the US? Please note, democrats held congress since 2006 and
61 Aphonic : Wall Street Journal FEBRUARY 26, 2009 Obama's Straw Men Why does he routinely ascribe to opponents views they don't espouse? Perhaps Mr. Obama was ta
62 bjorn14 : That was his first and only real job he could get coming from Indonesia and Kenya.
63 Post contains links Baroque : So Bush was a bit of a failure then it seems as he had most of congress for the first two years. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2006/01/31
64 dxing : For his first two years in office the democratic party controlled the Senate. 2002 to 2006 the GOP showed that unless you have 218 seats in the House
65 Post contains links Aphonic : It's unfortunate GWB and republicans were unable to re-regulate F&F despite the fact early in GWB's 1st term 2001-ish he spoke in favor of an own
66 Baroque : Well you can ask the question but I guess you are bright enough to know there is no answer that goes beyond inference. The general projections at the
67 Post contains links dxing : Considering the unemployment rate is still above 9%, home foreclosures (even those that have been "modified") are still occuring at a record pace, ec
68 Post contains links Baroque : Yes well Aphonic asked me and I answered as best I could. Of course we know what people THINK they know. http://people-press.org/report/637/ Fully 74%
69 Post contains links dxing : An opinion piece is not the best source available for facts. However this one contains some doozy's. Given the date of the article that would mean tha
70 Post contains links Baroque : By coincidence, I happened be over at the NBER site yesterday because I was wondering how long it usually took to officially call the end of a recessi
71 Post contains links Aphonic : It did not, because it was insanely wasteful, economic activity has stalled, was poorly designed "see reply 69 for a few examples"... designed in a p
72 Baroque : Well talking of irksome and fabricated comments - I thought I was having a civil discussion but now I know differently - you just might want to note
73 Baroque : Just as I would expect someone of your youth to be a tad more polite.
74 Post contains links dxing : Loosely pegged says who? http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time....urrency-reform/?xid=rss-topstories And although the yuan has started slowly creeping
75 Baroque : Wiki The RMB is now moved to a managed floating exchange rate based on market supply and demand with reference to a basket of foreign currencies. The
76 Post contains links Aphonic : You're dodging here... again! Need I remind you that it was you who made a baseless derogatory comment insinuating an entire nation "US" hates the Ch
77 dxing : That citation is dated May 18th 2007. As noted the Chinese ended this in June of this year. There is no longer any peg, loose or otherwise, and is a
78 Post contains links Pyrex : http://michellemalkin.com/2010/05/21/the-shady-shorebank-bailout/
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