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Nov. 2 USA Elections Thread  
User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13200 posts, RR: 15
Posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5747 times:

On Tuesday, November 2nd, in the USA we will be holding general elections for all members of the Congress, about 1/3rd of the Senate as well as a number of State governors and legislative members. While it is normal for some shift in the Congress and Senate with candidates of the party not of the President's winning more seats in those bodies in Presidential 'mid-term' elections, as in 1994, Republicans will most likely take a numerical majority in the Congress and possibly the Senate, much more that usual in 'mid-term' elections this election.

This election season has been marked with the rise of the 'Tea Party', a lot of anger as to the economy, the failure to really create jobs, many wanting massive reductions in all levels of government and taxes to be paid, the deficit, the controversial Health Care Reforms, all issues well discussed here and throughout the Internet, news programs and elsewhere. There is a horrible attitude, bordering to the racists as to our President. The Tea Party radicals I hope are properly restrained by moderates to prevent them from untold ruin they could cause with further affects on our economy. Worse is that many issues like our military actions in Iraq and Afganistan seem to be off the table of any discussions by canidates.

The continuing rise of control and more gains this year on the state level by Republicans is also critical as in many states. Usually the majority party, means they can control the structure of Congressional and state legislative districts, such redistricting done after this year's every decade US Census, thus maximising the number of Republican party districts and minimising the number of Democratic party districts. In California and NY State, as well as some other states, we see Governors up for elections, with a likely majority of those seats to be filled by Republicans.

Many candidates of both parties are very controversial (like in the Senate races in California, CT, Nevada). We have seen a huge increase in spending by the Corporations, their lobbyists and the rich mainly on Republicans which may distort the results, as well as many more that usual of low quality attack ads.

As usual, there are conterversial ballot questions most notably to legalize pot in Califorina to one in Missouri to reject the Federal Health care mandates.

As a Loyal Democrat, I am very afraid of what these elections will mean to working class people, that important regulations as to financial services and access to medical care to our environment will be decimated and 'pork' spending shifted to Republican districts and states from Democrats. Further, I expect the Democrats to fight with every tool to create gridlock rather than real and balanced reform. I think we will see Pres. Obama use his veto powers a lot more to force more balanced legislation.

Let the comments begin....

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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5735 times:

If every "loyal" Democrat and Republican were sent to an island and then nuked, a lot the the world's problems would be on the fast track of being solved.

Vote with your head. Ignore the lies and fear mongering. Vote moderate.

  B4e-Forever New Frontiers  


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40071 posts, RR: 74
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5727 times:

Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 1):
If every "loyal" Democrat and Republican were sent to an island and then nuked, a lot the the world's problems would be on the fast track of being solved.

Vote with your head. Ignore the lies and fear mongering. Vote moderate.




For the first time ever, I split my voting and didn't vote straight party Democrat.
For the first time ever, I voted for a Republican - Steve Cooley in the California Attorney General's race. I am no fan of him at all but the Democratic candidate (Kamala Harris) is the most repugnant, disgusting and disgraceful human being I've ever come across on a ballot.



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 3014 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5720 times:

As voting is not compulsory in the US, I was wondering what is the % of voter turnout for elections ?

In Australia, everyone over 18 (Australian citizens) must vote on election day.



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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5697 times:

In the old days of the West, when people were happy, they voted the nice guys for Sheriff. When trouble struck, however, they would hire the meanest gunslinger they could find.

Now times are very, very bad and we have recovered from the Economy with 10% unemployment. Nobody seems to know how to fix this, we're stuck between a rock and hard place.

This is why the gunslingers are having their day, and we are voting for people with whom we wouldn't normally associate.


User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13200 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5687 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 3):
As voting is not compulsory in the US, I was wondering what is the % of voter turnout for elections ?

In Australia, everyone over 18 (Australian citizens) must vote on election day.

First of all, you have to register to vote and re-register every time you move. To vote, you must be eligable as to citizenship, age (minimum of 18) and do not have a felony criminal record. Many do not register to vote as in some states still and in many states at one time, voter lists were used to creat lists to select those to serve court jury duty. You also have a number of people registered to vote who have died or moved and never registered, thus the registered voter numbers may be actually less. Then you have those too lazy, too ignorant or uncaring to vote.

Among registered voters, usually it exceeds 60% in contested Presidential elections, especially if State elections (Governror, legistatures) are also contested. In other general elections, like on Tuesday here in the USA, the numbers will probably be less than 50%.When no national canidates are up for elections, then it may slip to less than 40%. Then if you factor in those elilgable to vote but are not registered, then the numbers could actually be 10% or more off, then in a Presidental election, less than 50% of eligable persons vote. We also believe that a person should not be compelled to vote by law, or face a penalty to not do so.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26150 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5678 times:

As the Financial Times story from last week mentioned, this election is very much a referendum on Obama.

He came in as a rock star with one glamorous promise after another, and now much of the middle that voted for him and formed part of his base have been disenfranchised realizing they made a mistake in falling for the hype.

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
Further, I expect the Democrats to fight with every tool to create gridlock rather than real and balanced reform. I think we will see Pres. Obama use his veto powers a lot more to force more balanced legislation.

Good let the Democrats flight and create gridlock. They are only hurting their own President by doing so, making him an even more lame duck for the next two years.

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
As a Loyal Democrat, I am very afraid of what these elections will mean to working class people, that important regulations as to financial services and access to medical care to our environment will be decimated and 'pork' spending shifted to Republican districts and states from Democrats.

Pork? The biggest pork in American history was the health care legislation forcing every man, woman and child to buy a policy as the insurance industry stood by with a huge the smile on their faces.



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5674 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
As a Loyal Democrat, I am very afraid of what these elections will mean to working class people, that important regulations as to financial services and access to medical care to our environment will be decimated and 'pork' spending shifted to Republican districts and states from Democrats. Further, I expect the Democrats to fight with every tool to create gridlock rather than real and balanced reform. I think we will see Pres. Obama use his veto powers a lot more to force more balanced legislation.


Why would you be "afraid" of what these elections will do, you have no faith in the American system?

I knew the current administration was going to be disastrous for the country long before their election. But I was not "afraid" because I trust the the system set up by some real smart men about 235 years ago and that the country will always correct its mistakes.

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 3):
As voting is not compulsory in the US, I was wondering what is the % of voter turnout for elections?


Off year election maybe 40%.

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 3):
In Australia, everyone over 18 (Australian citizens) must vote on election day.


Why? In The United States were are free to vote but not required! Seems like requiring someone to vote cheapens the voting process.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40071 posts, RR: 74
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5671 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
As a Loyal Democrat, I am very afraid of what these elections will mean to working class people,

If the Cap & Trade bill passed, it would have really hurt working class people by skyrocketing energy cost. Both parties have turned their back on the working class.



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 3014 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5647 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 5):
First of all, you have to register to vote and re-register every time you move.

Thanks for the info lbtewr
 
Quoting 474218 (Reply 7):
Why? In The United States were are free to vote but not required! Seems like requiring someone to vote cheapens the voting process.

Quit the contrary really.

If everyone has to vote, it can be argued that the outcome of the election is 100% true as ALL citizens have participated, not just those that "could be bothered to vote". which is generally, only a small % of the population.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26150 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5641 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 9):
If everyone has to vote, it can be argued that the outcome of the election is 100% true as ALL citizens have participated, not just those that "could be bothered to vote". which is generally, only a small % of the population.

I've gone back and forth with opinions of this subject, however after living in countries were voting was mandatory, I'm now of the mind that its best to have voting be a voluntary venture.

In places were voting was mandatory I've seen basic wholesale apathy with people simply throwing their votes at anyone or any subject without awareness or care. Additionally I have seen what has been media and government bullying in support of specific candidates of topics which hardly is free and fair election.
Atleast in the US system, if you care and feel compassionate enough to get involved, or if you simply don't care its your choice either way. To me the freedom to chose to participate or not is the best path.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40071 posts, RR: 74
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5623 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 10):
In places were voting was mandatory I've seen basic wholesale apathy with people simply throwing their votes at anyone or any subject without awareness or care. Additionally I have seen what has been media and government bullying in support of specific candidates of topics which hardly is free and fair election.
Atleast in the US system, if you care and feel compassionate enough to get involved, or if you simply don't care its your choice either way. To me the freedom to chose to participate or not is the best path.



I don't have a problem with mandatory voting as long as 'none of the above' is an option.
'None of the above' is an option in Nevada.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5618 times:

I only vote in presidential elections since voting against Chucky and his puppet is a total waste of time here in NY The libs in the city can't be overcome by us out in the sticks. I can't wait to buy the biggest hoagie and sit in front of the TV and watch Rachel and Ed cry.

I want to see Alan Grayson lose.

Reid, Boxer and Murray lose too.

I think barring a miracle the GOP will take the house easily. I don't think they will take 60 seats but 50 seems right. They can't take the senate thanks to the good witch but I think Angle wins. Carly has a chance but the GOP will probably pick up 4 to 7 seats.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40071 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5614 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 12):
voting against Chucky and his puppet is a total waste of time here in NY The libs in the city can't be overcome by us out in the sticks.



"his puppet"?
Did you know that Kirsten Gillibrand belongs to the NRA and has been a long-time gun advocate? The liberals in New York city can't stand her. She is hardly a pupet of Schumer.
You should vote for her.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 12):
Reid, Boxer and Murray lose too.


I see Boxer and Murray winning. I'm hoping that Reid can win this.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5608 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
She is hardly a pupet of Schumer.
You should vote for her.

Come on she votes the way Schumer tells her. Who cares about her gun fetish? That is a state deal not national. She is a Lib.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
I see Boxer and Murray winning. I'm hoping that Reid can win this.

Both are in very tight races in fact I actually think Murray is in more trouble than Boxer. Though Carly can win if turn out is extremely high for the CRP.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40071 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5606 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 14):
Who cares about her gun fetish? That is a state deal not national. She is a Lib.

I thought you liked guns?
When gun issues come to a vote in the Senate, she sides with the Constitution.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 14):
Though Carly can win if turn out is extremely high for the CRP.

c-reactive protein?   



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5601 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
I thought you liked guns?
When gun issues come to a vote in the Senate, she sides with the Constitution.

I love guns but #1 the gun laws in NY are a state vote not national and they are never going to change. I don't know what vote in the National Senate about guns your talking about. Each state votes it's own gun laws. She is a Lib puppet!

Didn't she vote for Obamacare and the rest? Yep she really thinks for herself.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):

c-reactive protein?

LOL no California Republicans! LOL


User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5603 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 3):
In Australia, everyone over 18 (Australian citizens) must vote on election day.

Wow, another forum member told me over and over that that was simply not true.

GOP takes control of the House but not the Senate. Gridlock ensues as no matter what the House passes it gets locked up in the Senate and goes no where. That will end the "party of no" bs anyway. As all appropriations must originate in the House as per the Constitution at some point you are going to see a federal government shut down. The favorability rating of the Congress will go even lower than it is, down into the single digits. Perhaps the silver lining is that Pelosi and a few others will not want to be in the minority again and will most likely retire before their terms expire in 2012. And that will end the "quitter" bs as well.


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6054 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5598 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
Pork? The biggest pork in American history was the health care legislation forcing every man, woman and child to buy a policy as the insurance industry stood by with a huge the smile on their faces.

Probably from knowing that the Republicans had helped them out once again, by bitching and moaning and whining for months that Obama should listen to them. And then of course turn around and vote against it, so they could go home to the base and proclaim victory over the 'evil dumbocrats'.

The health care act ended up being so dilluted, I don't know why Obama even bothered in the end. I guess it says something about his 'socialist' tendencies, that even the conservatives in Denmark (you know, the socialist welfare state paradise) thought it was a bit lackluster.

*dons asbestos suit*


User currently offlineQuokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5595 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 7):
Why? In The United States were are free to vote but not required! Seems like requiring someone to vote cheapens the voting process.


Compulsory "voting" was introduced in Australia by the conservatives because they thought that it would put a break on the Labor Party. At the time the conservatives (Liberal/ Country Party - now National Party) believed that people who didn't vote were more likely to be "conservative" than "radical". It didn't work out that way. The change was introduced by the Electoral Act and it is not written into the Constitution Act, so it could be changed without the need for a referendum.

The actual position is that you must attend at a polling place and be given a ballot paper. What you do with it is up to you, but you can't remove it from the ballot place. You can rip it up, write poetry on it, or even number all candidates the same. It will than be regarded as an "informal vote" and not included in the count. There is provision for people who will be absent on polling day, including postal and early voting. An exemption can be sought by people who will not be in Australia and who will not be able to attend to vote at an Australian Embassy or Consulate.

Funnily enough, one Liberal candidate in an election in WA argued for scrapping compulsory voting because, she said, "it brings out the scum." Not surprisingly she wasn't elected.


Edited to add info on absent voters.

[Edited 2010-11-01 01:04:25]

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40071 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5592 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 16):
I love guns but #1 the gun laws in NY are a state vote not national and they are never going to change. I don't know what vote in the National Senate about guns your talking about. Each state votes it's own gun laws. She is a Lib puppet!

Didn't she vote for Obamacare and the rest? Yep she really thinks for herself.



I was speaking in general. Yes there were no gun votes within her short period in the Senate.
New York is a liberal state so of course you will get a liberal Senator.
What do you think of Carl Paladino and his dog?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 16):
LOL no California Republicans! LOL


Barbara Boxer has this one in the bag.
I just hope enough Republicans show up to help Steve Cooley win the Attorney General's race.
There are plenty of liberals from San Francisco like myself that HATE Kamala Harris!
Steve Cooley does well with independents and is doing well among Democrats in Los Angeles.



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User currently offlinetz757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2877 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5558 times:

I'm really hoping to see Chris Coons take his office tomorrow ( I voted for him a couple weeks ago by absentee ballot).. Ms. O'Donnel is too all over the place for me. Usually I stick to party lines since I usually agree with them, but this time not so much.

On a totally unrelated note, what is the point of a county sheriff is the sheriff really doesn't have much policing authority. They "serve papers for the courts and holds Sheriff's sales for non-payment of taxes, mortgage foreclosures plus all other court orders.". Couldn't this be carried out by the State Police and not have an election for a redundant position? Seems like government overlap to me.



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User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3188 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5551 times:

Quoting tz757300 (Reply 21):
On a totally unrelated note, what is the point of a county sheriff is the sheriff really doesn't have much policing authority


That sort of depends on different areas of the country. Some areas the county-sheriff is the predominate player in law enforcement others it is the local townships/cities.There seems to be little rhyme or reason why that one or the other has propagated in some areas. Just suspect it has to do with source of funding such as city sales taxes vs county property taxes. In anycase in my area anything that gets above a misdemeanor goes through the county for prosecution whether investigated by city, county or state.

Okie


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40071 posts, RR: 74
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5539 times:

Quoting tz757300 (Reply 21):
On a totally unrelated note, what is the point of a county sheriff is the sheriff really doesn't have much policing authority. They "serve papers for the courts and holds Sheriff's sales for non-payment of taxes, mortgage foreclosures plus all other court orders.". Couldn't this be carried out by the State Police and not have an election for a redundant position? Seems like government overlap to me.

Where you the one who shot the sheriff?  Wow!



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5513 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
Corporations, their lobbyists and the rich mainly on Republicans which may distort the results, as well as many more that usual of low quality attack ads.



I will say that your opening post is well written ... one little problem is the statement above. The Democrats actually received more corporate money than the GOP ... and add to that the huge Union payments. The Dems spent approx 300 million more than the GOP. And I don't care ... but to slant is to the angle that the GOP is on the side of big corporations is wrong. GE / Citi / BOA/Goldman / GM are all firmly in the Democrats camp and they know to keep the governemnt payment vein open they need Democrats.

If this is the "Tsunami" many say ...it will also be a referendum on campaign spending. The Dems and there contributors have pulled out all the stops attempting to ward off another 94 ...if that fails it will change things.



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25 NIKV69 : In the beginning I liked him especially when he threatened that reporter but he showed his true colors with his anti gay rhetoric. Did he ever have a
26 Post contains images sw733 : Just FYI, and it worries me how many people I have come across who don't seem to know this, but it's the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES and the Senate...an
27 Post contains links Superfly : Hmmm.... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo..._senate_boxer_vs_fiorina-1094.html It's always a close race for Boxer but she always wins. I remember
28 Flybaurlax : This was my first election I did not vote straight Democrat as well! I also voted for Steve Cooley. I am all about voting for the issue, not for the
29 DiamondFlyer : I haven't paid enough attention to it, since I've been living in Florida, but I do think its sort of a dumb election this year. Look, I'm a Republica
30 sw733 : I am about as moderate as can be, and one thing is for sure...I do wish Mark Parkinson was running for re-election! I would vote for him over Holland
31 NIKV69 : She has never had this much of a challenge!
32 windy95 : We will finally see the end of Charlie "The Chameleon" Crist here in Florida. Good riddance. Next up will be Bill Nelosn.
33 UNCRDU : In many places sheriff's deputies are the primary law enforcement authority once you leave a city's limits and enter the county. They usually have a
34 Aaron747 : Correction - they need both parties. The races in Hawaii are a mess - for Congress it's either Hanabusa or Djou, both of whom are complete losers. Dj
35 sw733 : In some places, and even some surprisingly large places, the Sheriff's office acts as THE local police force, as cities hire the Sheriff's department
36 PSA53 : I'm going all "Red" this time in protest.I'm so angry with the Democrats and ID problem with Mexico's Cauldron and the standing ovation with SB1070 an
37 LAXintl : Its called contract services. LA County Sheriff (as does LA County Fire Department) provide services for cities on contract basis. For example in LA
38 AGM100 : Correct ... and that in my opinion is why the TEA party is attractive. The TEA party threatens the old established structure in DC ... it operates wi
39 sw733 : Here are my thoughts, for what they are worth. I disagree with a decent chunk of what the Tea Party believes in, and none of the people I will vote f
40 Ken777 : The Republicans should have a major shift this year. With 39 seats required to take over the House it's reasonable to expect a shift of 60 to 70 seat
41 tz757300 : That is interesting. For all areas in the state outside of city limits, the State Police takes over all responsibility. It just seems that our county
42 UNCRDU : State Police forces often aren't large enough to cover an entire state's law enforcement needs outside of cities. In North Carolina our highway patro
43 tz757300 : Well, I guess DE is unique being it only has 3 counties so I guess that's why.
44 Superfly : She's always had stiff challengers. She beats them all the time and will do so again tomorrow. I'd much rather have Christine O'Donnell over Sharron
45 N174UA : We have the option of a write-in candidate here in WA. Boxer will probably win, unfortunately. Guess we'll have to keep calling her "Senator" and not
46 Superfly : Patty Murray is not a thug like Richard Daley. She hasn't demolished any airports either.
47 NIKV69 : Who else has polled this close? I think that race will go late. That race has vote rigging written all over it but Murray loses. Nope she has it. Rei
48 Superfly : In 1998, Matt Fong lead Boxer by as much as 10 points within the final weeks of the election but she ended up coming from behind and winning by 10 po
49 Ken777 : O'Donnell fits the phrase that the "Republicans could get a Ham Sandwich elected this year". And, based on my hard right polling station, there will
50 Post contains links dxing : The phrase actually dealt with prosecutors and grand juries. http://thinkexist.com/quotation/if-t...ey-wanted-a-grand-jury/368723.html “If the dist
51 seb146 : With 27 votes counted in the east, a landslide is projected for the right wing. What I want to know is: Why has the economy not recovered? Why are we
52 NIKV69 : LOL, I have the feeling 2012 is going to be better than today. I do think we will see a nice recovery in 2011. Looking forward to a great night!
53 windy95 : Do not worry. We will only win the house so we will still have two more years to blame the Dems in the Senate and Obama...
54 Post contains links dxing : Yes amazing. Especially when you consider just 24 months ago posts like this were floating around. What Is The Future Of The GOP? (by Falcon84 Jun 6
55 Post contains links Ken777 : Not this year. This year it's about elections and the Republicans being able to elect a ham sandwich. All you have to do is look at the flakes that h
56 caliatenza : no way that "i'll get into bed with any dude aka im a slut but i preach abstience" lady/cougar whatever, is gonna win that seat.
57 NIKV69 : What is so sad is that it is the people trying to tell you that your so off course they will vote you out at any cost. Kind of scary that you still w
58 AGM100 : Maybe they have had enough of the elitists operators who are so smart that they are on the verge of crashing the whole system ? Did you think of that
59 qantas077 : be sure, that it is not a vote of confidence in the Republicans either.
60 dxing : They are private citizens. Simply because they are not the publicity hound that former President Clinton is, and President Carter ought to be, is not
61 windy95 : That is why Bush the elder is still held in high esteem in my eyes. He has stayed above the fray and has acted like all Presidents acted in the past.
62 Post contains images MadameConcorde : and trillions in war spending...
63 Post contains images Ken777 : ppy. As long as they stay in private the Republicans will be ha It is tradition for the SecState to stay out of political battles during a campaign.
64 AKviator : No man I'm with you I think you've dropped this line with me before. I dont see the relevance. Is anyone who hasn't done the above unqualified to hav
65 GuitrThree : Today is going to be a very, very, very good day. Enough said.
66 NIKV69 : First bit of reporting has Rand Paul leading.
67 DocLightning : Not a baseball fan. On Sunday, as SF destroyed the Rangers, The Bushes were in the stands right behind the batter. Mrs. Barbara Bush was taking notes
68 NIKV69 : IN, SC and KY called for GOP. Good start!
69 Post contains images Aaron747 : Not too many fans of Mr. Obama's in San Francisco today - the President was apparently too busy to call the SF Giants for 30 seconds to congratulate t
70 Mir : Only because they have no real power at this point. Should that change (and it might after this election), I think you'll see the lobbyists arriving
71 NIKV69 : Rubio looking very strong!
72 GuitrThree : yes she was, probably how her husband threw a baseball like a real man, unlike Obama. Shall I break out the youtube videos to show? Oh, did you hear
73 NIKV69 : Please remove your post that is not my quote. I did not post that.
74 Ken777 : Paul? The guy who said that he "supports" Civil Rights B-U-T . . . Man up, Rand. Back to the John Birch Days with that one.
75 Post contains images Aaron747 : Um, the guy lives in Dallas?? Notice he didn't bother to throw out a first pitch in San Francisco - the city he never visited in 8 years as president
76 NIKV69 : He is a Libertarian not a racist. So your Maddow talking points are not going to work anymore. Rubio has been called! Nice job Floirida!
77 Post contains links Mir : Yeah, Obama's not too great at the whole pitching thing. But could GWB do this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfKNM6z12VQ -Mir
78 GuitrThree : Sorry about that.. haven't seen that in a while. Airliners.net error in quoting who said what. I'll just try to edit it. Don't know if you remember t
79 Post contains images wolbo : What a shame, no witch in the senate.
80 GuitrThree : Now fixed. Once again, sorry about that.
81 DocLightning : Yanno what? In the long list of things I consider when choosing a candidate for office, baseball throwing ability is right at the bottom, just above
82 dxing : Probably busy packing as he's headed to the other side of the planet just as fast as he can. In 4 is a whooping. In 5 is winning. In 6 was close one.
83 Ken777 : If I was a person of color it would make zero difference to me. A raciest by any other name still thrown in a "but" when talking about the Civil Righ
84 NIKV69 : It's all good LOLOL Again more propaganda. Let us take his voting record into account as time passes and not just cling to Rachel Maddows destructive
85 GuitrThree : Well, yanno what? Me too, but you seemed to be concerned about Mrs. Bush taking notes so I figured that's what you meant by that comment. What I'm co
86 Post contains images Aaron747 : Puhlease - not another one that can't give an ounce of credit to San Francisco for anything...nevermind the Bay Area has brought the world Bechtel, G
87 NIKV69 : They have to. They will cling on to the bitter end. I mean watching Donna Brazile on CNN is making me ill. They just can't admit they voted for a tal
88 PPVRA : It should, because racists used the government to implement many racists laws. Libertarians would have never allowed that. That's a despicable post,
89 Ken777 : Like Republicans holding on to Bush II in 06? As I mentioned before, Republicans take 60 to 70 seats in the House and take over the Senate. This is t
90 GuitrThree : Yes No, close but no win. Yes, yes, yes. They need to quit spending like they did in the past, among a lot of other things they've screwed up in the
91 NIKV69 : One of the only Dems I would vote for has won. NY has a new Governor.
92 Post contains images dxing : Lawn, or hard wood? Or do I even dare ask? I live in Houston and the Astros were done quite awhile ago so I really didn't have a dog in the fight. Bu
93 dxing : They won't get the Senate but it will be so close as to set up some real fights as the House with possibly 235 or more seats will have no problems wi
94 Yellowstone : Bullpuckey. A pure libertarian would not have voted in favor of laws prohibiting discrimination on the basis of race in employment or clientele choic
95 NIKV69 : Wow Rand Paul giving a great speech right now.
96 Yellowstone : Can't say I'm unhappy about that, though I can't stand his opponent's ideological views. "Taliban Dan" he was not, but he's still an archconservative
97 PPVRA : Is that a racist LAW? Nope. It is not complicit in any way, shape or form if you denounce it. If you call for boycotting such an establishment. I don
98 NIKV69 : He outed himself on MSNBC many times as a hard line far lefty. Something that district was not about. Hence why he lost and lost badly. He will be on
99 WarRI1 : Contemplate this, if the Republicans pick up 9 seats, the deciding vote will be Biden in the Senate. Unless someone changes sides.
100 Ken777 : Still some close races, but I think California might keep the Democrats in a somewhat majority. The next two years in the Senate might actually be in
101 Post contains images AGM100 : Don't see any real surprises so far .... looks like the GOP will skate in without having too really define there agenda. We needed more TEA partiers t
102 PPVRA : Sadly, Dr. Lawson has lost NC-4, a democratic stronghold. He was one of the three I have been following. But he is doing much better than in his 2008
103 Post contains images n229nw : No he SAYS he is a libertarian... Paul is he's against same-sex marriage (I'll give him a pass here only to the extent that he isn't extreme about it
104 PPVRA : He opposes those issues being handled by the Federal government. As for abortion, I disagree with him on his position because I am pro-choice, but he
105 Mir : One real shame in this is that the Democrats who are being voted out are not the more liberal ones who might well be deserving of such fates - it's th
106 wolbo : I see that the very close Senate races in Pennsylvania as Illinois have just both flipped from Dem to Rep (with 90% and 80% of the resp. votes counted
107 caliatenza : it wasnt fabricated, the dude came out and told the story. Whatever, she's still crazy regardless, glad she lost.
108 NIKV69 : Going to be a late night in CA. Whitman and Brown very close.
109 Post contains images caliatenza : So when the GOP and the idiot Tea Partiers f--k things up in the next two years, who are you gonna come whining to on here? lol. Man im hoping Prop 1
110 flanker : Nope, sorry! 57% to 43% so far against it. AHAHHAHA I guess people there still have some sense.
111 DocLightning : Well, you raise a good point. Basically, the GOP has some accountability now. If their only goal is to make Obama a single-term President and not to
112 NIKV69 : Give it a rest. The TP aren't going to do any of this stupidity you and MSNBC are trying to scare everyone with. Your party has made a mess and we wi
113 Aaron747 : Scare tactics drummed up by out of state interests yet again. Pathetic that people fall for that crap.
114 Post contains images caliatenza : uh, its not MSNBC and im not the one trying to scare anyone. Just look at most of the Tea Party candidates anyways and their supporters...they dont e
115 Mudboy : The County Sheriff is the highest LEO within the county to include what ever city is within the borders of their county, even a large metro area. A S
116 Post contains images caliatenza : Why all the hate against Marijuana man, its just a plant .
117 MSPNWA : Only the long 6-year term is saving the Dems. 40 of their seats aren't up for re-election. Right now the projections are 21 wins for the Republicans
118 NIKV69 : You can have him. Your state is about to go bankrupt and he will most certainly put the last nail in. You tell me this is not MSNBC? Nice try again b
119 Superfly : Congressman John Dingell is leading and senate candidate Joe Manchin won. Looks like my kind of Democrats are winning. Also, Harry Reid is leading by
120 Aaron747 : I'd have voted for him purely because he has a track record of doing the right thing when chips are down - he slashed the state budget in 1978 when P
121 Superfly : I wouldn't even give her that much credit. I think she is uglier than $h!t. Kamala Harris looks like a drag-queen or a ladyboy. I've seen men dress u
122 lewis : Although I haven't smoked for years and don't plan to, I just don't get why people would vote against legalizing something whose legal status would n
123 Aaron747 : GROSS! Did not realize that...
124 Post contains images caliatenza : I dont really watch MSNBC, i watch CNN mostly for political news. And no, the Tea Party and the GOP is mostly nuts, seriously. As a minority in Ameri
125 Superfly : Sleeping with Willie Brown is how Kamala Harris got in to San Francisco politics. As you already know, San Francisco politics is similar to Chicago.
126 NIKV69 : Why you scared? As long as you are here legally you have nothing to worry about. Nice? You like giving 60% of your earnings back to the government?
127 Post contains images caliatenza : I was referring to the hot women . Hey, well if that 60% gets me a better quality of life, then its ok . I was born here, thank you very much. Im sca
128 lewis : Always depends on what you get in return.
129 NIKV69 : LOL then move there. You can work all week for just enough to pay your bills while 60% goes toward cheap health care. No they aren't but keep on with
130 Post contains links caliatenza : For some reason the Swedes arent complaining? dunno. Seems like a pretty wealthy country to me also, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swed
131 mke717spotter : At least we won't have to listen to Nancy Pelosi anymore! And I had no idea that she was 70 years old.
132 Post contains images Superfly : HARRY REID IS WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
133 caliatenza : Thank God. That Sharon Angle was nuts...
134 MSPNWA : I hope it was a legitimate win.
135 Post contains images DocLightning : Prop 19 tanked. That makes me very sad. Maybe they'll get a better-written version on the ballot next cycle.
136 Post contains images caliatenza : damn . I havent smoked weed in a while too . I was looking forward to come back to Cali and smoke some legally .
137 Post contains links and images Superfly : Where is Sharron Angle? Where is all the tough talk? Why is she hidding from her supporters and being such a party-pooper? They're still counting vote
138 ABQ747 : New Mexico just elected a Republican governor!!!! Congratulations to Susana Martinez!
139 caliatenza : i thought NM was dem....
140 ABQ747 : It is, for the most part. But Republicans have been known to win here, from time to time....
141 Post contains images EA CO AS : I'm LOVING the fact that AZ-5 has kicked Harry Mitchell to the curb. Hopefully the citizens of AZ-7 have the good sense to send Raul Grijalva to the u
142 Post contains images san747 : Hey, what do you know? You and I agree on something Nick! As a liberal/Democrat/whatever you want to refer to me as, I sure hope so. I respect the pe
143 Post contains images EA CO AS : I see - so people who have different views than yours are automatically racists? Nice.
144 Post contains links Alias1024 : Dear Arizona........WTF??? To your eternal shame you reelected this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ray_1ROtYdI North and West are mostly Democratic.
145 AKviator : How is you calling him mentally retarded better than him calling tea partiers racist? I think he's referring to the multiple tea party leaders remove
146 caliatenza : When those views include disenfranchising blacks and other minorties, being fearful of Obama because of his race, being against government services w
147 caliatenza : its not just that. Its those crazies that showed up to the town halls during the health care debate, the fact that they dont give a flying rats ass a
148 KPDX : Yup, so of course that makes them automatically racists!!11!one!
149 Aaron747 : What are you talking about? Redistricting is done by both parties - and the only way to be 'disenfranchised' these days is by not registering and/or
150 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : My comment will be very short. Who was the big loser Tuesday? The easy answer is President Obama and his fellow Democrats on this day of epic GOP vict
151 Post contains images mke717spotter : Wow thanks for posting that. I'm from Wisconsin and I just started college this fall in Tucson so I haven't been too caught up in the races here, but
152 Superfly : Technically she wasn't "reelected". She was Secretary of State and became governor when President Obama picked governor Janet Napolitano to head Dept
153 caliatenza : not agreeing with their platform doesnt mean i saying they are racist. They are racist because of the vitrolic crap that comes out of their mouths wi
154 Post contains images MadameConcorde : No more Nancy Pelosi as the House Speaker. This can't be a bad thing, really!!!!
155 windy95 : Bingo....... Give me a break...Proof? No fear. Dislike of his Socialist views is the only thing. And did he not come out of a white womb? It is great
156 CPH-R : Why?
157 ual777 : She is doing what is right for her state. Oh please, and I'm scared of going to Mexico because I don't want to be gunned down by automatic weapons in
158 Post contains images einsteinboricua : That is yet to be seen. Now, in all seriousness, I'm a Democrat and though I couldn't vote and am sad that the Democrats lost, I congratulate the GOP
159 PHLBOS : Looks like PA went mostly GOP this time around. The Toomey-Sestak Senate race wasn't called (for Toomey) until shortly before midnight Eastern time. A
160 na : I dont understand those Americans anymore. Once I was a great fan of the US, regularly there on holiday. Then they voted for the worst president ever,
161 casinterest : Everyone really needs to get into focus on what happened here. The Moderates, and there are a lot of then, once again swung the vote. The folks that
162 ogre727 : I have to say I agree fully with this post.
163 EA CO AS : We have spoken, and we don't give a shit what you think. Signed, The majority of Arizona voters
164 futurepilot16 : You and me both bro, and I have to live here and listen to the non-sense. It goes to show you that even with a little knowledge, people can be extrem
165 CometII : Rick Scott, a known crook, has won (bought) the election in Florida. Not that I was a devout Sink fan, but Floridians are really cheaply bought voters
166 airtran737 : I am so glad that America has shown that we will not be told what is best for us by Nancy Pelosi and our Kenyan President. Yesterday was a good day, a
167 racko : In this week's Spiegel there's a decent piece about the situation in America. There's essentially 2 nations in 1, the educated, progressive one that
168 CometII : Don't expect the Republicans to help you there. They sure want to cut spending massively at home in order to keep or even increase spending 3/4 of a
169 UNCRDU : It isn't. Posting after drinking is never a good idea. My apologies.
170 einsteinboricua : This is what happens when people misunderstand campaigns, think a candidate has a wand that will change everything in two years time, and that everyt
171 UNCRDU : Um, how? Tapping your toes together and wishing something to be true doesn't make it actually happen. You are aware of the Black Panthers with billy
172 na : Back on track? You call that bigot Rep-crap of GWBJr days a track? A trail for the narrowminded at max, maybe. A hillbilly trail, for those rednecks
173 UNCRDU : It is about time. Much better than the two-year era of slamming your own unpopular agenda down America's throat. Americans don't like being ignored.
174 UNCRDU : You realize that calling Republican voters "hillbillies" and "rednecks" is just as prejudiced, arrogant and offensive as calling Democratic voters "w
175 avent : Actually, you understand it perfectly. You might, however, be confusing what America claims to be about, and what it actually is about. Just remember
176 UNCRDU : Per capita, I have to believe that the Samoans have us beat.
177 seb146 : So, if he had an (R) behind his name, health care reform would have been passed easier and corporate bail outs would have been easier to pass? All th
178 UNCRDU : Not likely. I'd say Obama has a bigger chance of being voted out of power in 2012 than the Congressional Republicans. We shall see though.
179 na : I dont call all Reo voters hillbillies, I just notice that given yesterday election the percentage of narrowminded people voting for the Reps must be
180 Post contains links avent : Whew! I can rest easier now, although... http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity
181 Post contains links dxing : FDR is rolling over in his grave. Because he focused on the wrong problems, he was warned in poll after poll that the majority of people, regardless
182 KPDX : Oh, I totally agree. Not everyone voted for democrats, so it showed the ugly face of the US. Totally agree.
183 Post contains images Superfly : That was President Warren Harding. What's with all the US bashing? I thought electing Obama was to make Europe love us again. Amazing how easy it is
184 Post contains images KPDX : OMFG, thats wasist!
185 Post contains images Ken777 : Straight Democrat line from the 2008 election. The difference this time is that there was some very big money funding campaigns under the table and t
186 Baroque : You did notice that they note a "weighted" average at the base of yr graph. I bet the person who typed that in had a good giggle. Wonder if there is
187 windy95 : WEll the Debt actually really started to ratchet up after Reid and Pelosi took control in 2006. ANd now in two years along with Obama they have made
188 Post contains images Superfly : I'm not so disappointed that the Democrats lost, I'm disappointed at 'which' Democrats lost. The Democrats that lost out the most were respectable, m
189 Conti764 : Am I right to assume that this rep. victory will actually help Obama in his next two years? Having a republican House will make him shift more to the
190 ogre727 : your comments are so beyond stupid and arrogant that im afraid its the other way around.
191 Post contains images Dazed767 : LOL ok guy!
192 Yellowstone : Doubtful. Obama's approval ratings aren't that bad, first of all - it's about a 50/50 split, right around where most of the past few presidents have
193 Post contains links dxing : Yep, think it might be the TV you're watching. From the to be speaker Boehner's speech's opening lines. "Listen, I'll be brief, because we have real
194 Yellowstone : You mean like the credit reforms to keep banks from abusing their customers? And the health care plan, where each element has widespread public suppo
195 Mir : The good news is that if they do that, they'll be out in two years. This election was not about showing support for the Republicans - it was about pe
196 dxing : That is just plain incorrect. President Obama did not "lower" anyones rate of taxation. That would have taken an act of Congress signed into law by t
197 Conti764 : Right, that's the true problem with many Americans. You guys really think the world ends where the oceans start... You guys may not care about our op
198 Post contains images na : You believe. But it doesnt happen for many. I´m showing my ignorance for the SOME in America. True. Like you. Maybe I should have said the worst sit
199 Post contains images Aaron747 : Ah jeez Oh right, because corporate America and Wall Street would be absolutely *thrilled* about the prospect of jumping off the highly profitable gl
200 UNCRDU : Was there much opposition to the credit reform plans? I don't think I ever saw polls about that. And yes, I'm referring to healthcare and also to the
201 Aaron747 : Both parties are to blame - neither Democrats or Republicans have done anything about *reducing* poverty. Republicans blame the poor for not pulling
202 einsteinboricua : I rather be told by them than two tycoons waging war because I felt like it. If you think you were ignored now, just wait until this Congress enters.
203 Ken777 : And, with a Black Man actually running for President why do you think that's necessary? Of course there was no pressure on blacks who actually wanted
204 avent : Such as?
205 UNCRDU : Helping people out isn't a bad thing. Taking things away from people who work hard for them and giving them to people who don't deserve them IS a bad
206 avent : This is not at all obvious. SB1070 Article 8 B. refers to 'lawful contact,' but that could include being a simple bystander who gives assistance to a
207 UNCRDU : Why would an officer stop someone giving someone directions on the side of the road? Suspicion of a drug deal or something? Regardless, if an officer
208 Post contains images ogre727 : Giving them to people who dont deserve them??????? what????? dude, there are people who need help as they were born in conditions where you and I pro
209 UNCRDU : Of course SOME people deserve help. But taking money away from someone who worked their butt off going to med/dental/law/business school and redistri
210 Post contains links avent : Because SB1070 targets behaviours associated with hispanic day laborers such as getting picked up by employers for day jobs, so the simple act of sto
211 AGM100 : So let me get this straight .... you don't trust the police, the tip of the spear of government law enforcement..but you love the idea of more big go
212 UNCRDU : Come on man, the bill is in all caps. And the letters are blue. No way I can get through 17 pages of that. Anti-hispanic or anti-illegal culture? See
213 Aaron747 : Yes....but.... ...we haven't done this. Until we do, the argument stops there. We haven't done enough to reduce poverty - and neither party can hones
214 UNCRDU : Agreed. We haven't done this because honestly I don't think we know how to yet.
215 avent : I generally do trust police and strongly support them. However, they have not always been fair with minorities, and there needs to be clear boundarie
216 Aaron747 : I don't think that's the case. Community policing has been shown to work. Charter schools and redistribution of property tax revenues to close qualit
217 Mir : Things will cycle back and forth every two years until something gives. Which will probably come when the economy recovers on its own (I don't see ei
218 Post contains images avent : If you really cared about this country you would... Indeed, and the innocent have no need for Miranda rights. But why should anyone be subjected to b
219 Post contains links and images EA772LR : What an incredible night for Conservative Americans! I've got to say, it's utterly pathetic that some of our European comrades on here think that bein
220 dxing : Why? You don't think that President Obama isn't gathering a campaign war chest right now? That there is not at least an informal campaign committee w
221 avent : So the US got the first powered aircraft, lagged the Germans in jet engines, were second to get a man into space, and out of humiliation needed gover
222 Conti764 : Fair enough, but I was actually referring to the US system where not everyone is in title of the same amount and/or quality of healthcare. I doubt th
223 Mir : McConnell mentioned it as being "the single most important thing we want to achieve". Really, whoever is in the White House should come way down the
224 dxing : Those are only three but why am I not surprised at your response. Microchips, modern mass production (Ford), the artificial heart, the VCR, vulcaniza
225 AGM100 : This is true ....we agree 100% but what would you consider silly partisan stuff? The TEA party platform IMO can not be considered silly partisan stuf
226 Aaron747 : Not really - the same as independents reacted to the Bush years by tilting things in favor of Obama. We're not talking about entitlement to health ca
227 Mir : Definitely silly. Also in the silly category would be chewing up time with subpoenas and investigations - not that I have a problem with all of them,
228 Post contains images avent : We're great because we have VCRs? So you equate being 'great' with creating consumer stuff, and by this measure, the Japanese, and Chinese (in the ne
229 AGM100 : Like I have said ... the GOP must come with alternatives , but I am afraid anything less than universal health care will be blocked . It is the golde
230 Post contains links dxing : He didn't act on anything. He was convicted of making false statements and obstruction of justice. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, not an
231 Aaron747 : Those are not exactly the ideas independents want to see. A lot of us would like to see malpractice tort reform and restrictions on the nature of con
232 Post contains links Ken777 : It costs money to take care of Veterans. Do you really believe that the Republicans will go for taxes that provide good care without being shamed int
233 StuckInCA : Actually there are plenty of studies showing that we're not even close to "happier." Denmark is "happiest." Hopefully our government will find some w
234 dxing : If you are just going to ignore all the variables and different legislators,bureaucrats, as well as business executives and scam artists that had the
235 Aaron747 : Well yes, but as even Ralph Reed said on CNN today (it may have been a slip of the tongue), thanks to TARP, there has been no accountability whatsoev
236 ltbewr : We have seen a lot of responses to this topic, too many of them way off the subject. The elections yesterday went pretty much as predicted. Major wins
237 Mir : Likely so. Which is why the GOP shouldn't even try to touch it. Look at how hard a time the Democrats had coming up with their bill, which was in the
238 Post contains images Superfly : WELL SAID! ! ! ! ! ! Nah I'd rather cling to my beer, whiskey & pork chops before the you know whos take over.
239 einsteinboricua : Just as "socialist" has been repeatedly misused. Nothing new.
240 dxing : Which the elected officials will no doubt be doing. The GOP is more than just the elected officials just as the DNC is more than theirs. Sure, but th
241 Mir : Exactly - they were voting against the democrats more than for the republicans. I expect both sides to try and solve the problems that we've got. I'm
242 dxing : That does not equate to being "pissed", and I use that because it is reminiscent of the late Peter Jennings comment in 1994 when he said "The voters
243 Mir : If you want to play down the anger part of it, that's fine by me. Ultimately, the motivation is similar. Absolutely. So he'd better shape up. -Mir
244 AKviator : It needs to be. However the GOP is showing no signs of compromise either- they've actually stated many times they do not intend on compromising.
245 Superfly : What a frikkin' mess.
246 Post contains images Mir : It's going to turn into a game of chicken - both sides hold out to see who breaks first, all so they can claim to be the ones who are driving the age
247 UNCRDU : My father has been a doctor for over 25 years and just recently finished paying off his medical school bills. To say that he OWES people something fo
248 ual777 : No, it shows that Obama is far more liberal than people thought and he is an extremist along with Nancy Pelosi and others. The Democrats are spending
249 Aaron747 : Um, last I checked the dollar was being doomed by Bernake plugging half a trillion dollars into bond markets every few months. The Treasury prints mo
250 mdsh00 : Uh, no. Not even counting the costs for undergraduate education, the average medical school graduate is at least 150K to 250K in debt from tuition an
251 Post contains images mke717spotter : I keep hearing the Republicans talking about repealing the health care law, but let's face it - the House is GOP, the Senate is grid-locked, and Presi
252 Post contains links HNLPointShoot : This is a graphic from the New York Times that itemizes the federal budget proposed by President Obama for the current fiscal year, and includes optio
253 windy95 : Agree 100%. There are people at Fanny, Freddy, Financials and in Congress who should be held accountable. To me the only reason that this was swept u
254 Post contains links windy95 : How about Nobel prize winners for science and medicine http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h2007.html About 75% of winners are American or people of oth
255 Post contains links dxing : Well the tag line for 2012 is shaping up. The things done over the past two years, the auto bail outs, health care, stimulus, financial reform, were d
256 bmacleod : 2010 looks like an opposite of 1980 when Reagan won the presidency and GOP took the Senate. Dems held on to house. Tip O'Neill was House speaker. Reag
257 einsteinboricua : Then why did they pick a Democrat president in the first place? if it was just to oust the GOP, then it is clear that Americans don't know how to vot
258 Post contains links and images Ken777 : I really expect little from the Republicans as the 2012 elections campaign will start as soon as Republicans get over their New Years Parties. There
259 NIKV69 : Yep Gold continues to climb with fear. THe biggest way to get people working again is to repeal Obama care and to let all tax cuts continue. They are
260 Ken777 : While you may not have problems paying private health insurance for your employees a lot of companies do. Each year (even during the Bush/Cheney Year
261 OA412 : No it's not. Why? Because you said so? That's statement is just as bad and just as ignorant as a European coming on here and saying all Americans are
262 Aaron747 : Mainly because nobody from either party even considered for a moment a three payer "single payer" system such as that Japan, Hong Kong, and several s
263 Ken777 : I prefer a modified version of the Aussie System, where core care is covered by a Medicare Tax. Bu core care I mean basic care without the frills. If
264 avent : Great examples and note that most scientists believe in Global Warming and most are very dependent on government grants and funding, so the 'what mak
265 qantas077 : mate. don't kid yourself, it's not even a year old legislation and you expect repealing it will create more jobs, jobs were being culled before Obama
266 ual777 : Not on the level Obama has. Really? I mean really? The CBO is projecting that in just TWO years Obama will have added over $2.4 TRILLION to the defic
267 Post contains images Ken777 : And the Republicans made their bribe a cornerstone of their campaign - no difference except the Republican's bribe will increase the deficit for gene
268 dxing : Because the GOP candidate lacked any charisma and after 8 years of GOP control the public was looking for a change. Same thing happened in 2000. Same
269 UNCRDU : You can't do anything in this country without federal funding. Even the janitors and garbagemen went to school for at least some time. Should we puni
270 Post contains images OA412 : Extremely well put. On the one hand we have some on the right putting forth this image of a true American as being some sort of uneducated backwoods
271 Post contains images Ken777 : And it will happen again in 2016 when we'll probably vote in a Republican for President. Even with HSA most Americans can't be prepared for some majo
272 Aaron747 : This is part of what you say is true and would be adequately addressed by a three-payer system. I've seen bills recently from a guy who had a frontal
273 Ken777 : A three-payer system works for those with sufficient money (a decent job) to pay for it. Unfortunately we have moved too many jobs to low paying, WalM
274 NIKV69 : While your at it check UPS and see how much they spend. I bet it's more but you know what? They are managed by people with brains and a union that do
275 avent : But when asked to back this up your instinctive response was to boast about projects achioeved through government support. We can safely ignore your
276 Superfly : "President Christie". Christie Todd Whiteman or that new fat guy? Actually that new fat guy and fmr. New Mexico governor Gary Johnson would be a Repu
277 dxing : Breaking the sound barrier and going to the moon yes. The airplane, microchip, artificial heart, the vcr, modern mass production, and the vulcanzatio
278 NIKV69 : That is not very nice Larry. I would prefer the current Governor of AZ! She is kick ass!
279 Superfly : Just simply wanted to clarify which Christie you were talking about. Both are from New Jersey, both are men and both are Republicans. She is too devi
280 Aaron747 : Totally with ya there Larry - I could see myself doing same. Um, no.
281 Superfly : He did an interview recently and he is kicking around the idea. I haven't completely shut the door on President Obama yet. I'd still like to see Obam
282 Post contains images EA CO AS : Nice try at fanning the flames, but SB1070 was amended to read "lawful stop, detention, or arrest." Simply having contact with someone doesn't fall i
283 einsteinboricua : 1. You don't pick a candidate because he/she has charisma. That's just good looks and good looks have nothing to do with politics or running a countr
284 Post contains images Superfly : Michael Dukakis didn't seem like a nice guy. Ronald Reagan and Willie Horton helped Papa Bush win in 1988. ***Update*** Patty Murray wins the Washing
285 bmacleod : Wille Horton....is he a former House Rep or Senator?
286 ltbewr : One of the after affects of this election I am concerned with is the attitude of the Republican leadership. They are basically telling the President h
287 NIKV69 : Oh come on Whitman wasn't that mannish. Why is she devisive? She simply wants you to be in the country legally and that is devisive? Though that whol
288 dxing : I would disagree. In 1960 people who listened on the radio thought that Nixon had won the debates. Those that watched on TV were impressed by Kennedy
289 avent : Let me guess, it's because she's white and obsesses over poor brown-skinned people sneaking across a border to work? Otherwise, what exactly has she
290 Ken777 : We still have our 5¢ bet going? Palin runs, other Republicans are in fear of speaking ill of her and Obama (who has better ratings today than Reagan
291 NIKV69 : Sure can we double it if Obama loses? Oh come on she isn't that bad. Though I still prefer Bachmann she is hot!
292 Post contains images Aaron747 : No, she was just a fool. Her staff didn't do tracking, she paid a campaign manager $90K a week who didn't do anything to convince her to connect with
293 EA772LR : Yes it is. Europe is broke which is why I said Europe is NO model to follow. Democratic Socialism = bankruptcy. Nope. The evidence is right in front
294 avent : Since Chinese communism is thriving, should we follow their example? If not, maybe the current trends in gluttony induced recessions are poor measure
295 Baroque : Nice to know that the impression I got was not as misguided as I was rather firmly told. Interesting time for tactics. Lots of smiling from Obama I w
296 OA412 : You have some messed up standards! In the original post you talked about culture, now you're talking political system. Never mind that not all of Eur
297 Post contains images Superfly : Wait, Todd Whiteman isn't a man? DQ? Dairy Queen? [Edited 2010-11-05 12:18:45]
298 NIKV69 : Oh come on she is cute and I love that perky attitude! She is mad sexy. No she wasn't that bad stop! I'm missing them already!
299 Superfly : Come on Nik, stop joking. Are you trying to tell us that Todd Whiteman was a 'female'? After living here in Bangkok, I should be able to spot out a l
300 Post contains images dxing : Straight out of the talking points. What they have said is that where there is common ground they will compromise quickly. Where there is not they ar
301 avent : Indeed, but it's the rare rightwinger who'll make this case, and it's quite a surprise to see you make a case for increased government control of tra
302 dxing : The federal government has always had control of foreign trade matters. That is nothing new nor unsual. From the United States Constitution: Article
303 SA7700 : This thread has run its course and will be locked for further contributions. As this thread has also been steered into a general thread where some use
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