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Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging  
User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 700 times:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53460,00.html

In a nutshell, Jesse Ventura of Minnesota has vetoed a bill that would require the recessitation of the Pledge of Allegiance once a week in Minn. schools.

"I am vetoing this bill because I believe patriotism comes from the heart," Ventura said in his veto message Wednesday. "Patriotism is voluntary. It is a feeling of loyalty and allegiance that is the result of knowledge and belief. A patriot shows their patriotism through their actions, by their choice."

Amen Jesse! Finally a politician has the guts to nix a feel-good mandate likely forwarded by some self serving egomaniac with little real legislative talent who's intent on "out-patriot"-ing everyone else and getting some press for it.

We shouldn't love our country and express that love "because someone told us to." Pledge? Absolutely. Law requiring the Pledge? No.

Way to go, Body!




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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 689 times:

Way to go Jessie!  Big thumbs up

"I am vetoing this bill because I believe patriotism comes from the heart,"


a Pledge requirement reminds him of the indoctrination practiced by the Nazis and the Taliban.







Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 674 times:

He´s right! (And I´m not even american! Big grin)

It seems he didn´t get hit on the head as hard as some other politicians...  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 673 times:

whatever. Fine, I agree with him that partiotism should come from the heart, who can disagree with that??

The kids should say the pledge anyway, it reaffirms love and trust for this country as they grow and develop at their maleable young ages.

If we don't reinforce and teach them right, this world is so full of sick fucks who will reinfoece and teach them wrong.

whatever, stupid thread, just gonna start a flame war.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 666 times:

Twaneedsnohelp:
this world is so full of sick fucks who will reinfoece and teach them wrong.


They should be OK as long as they stay away from the Non-Aviation forums.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Just kidding!  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 652 times:

I was just watching that unbiased (right), network, FOX, and Hannity and Newtie Gingrich were lamenting that fact that "only" 25 states require the Pledge of Allegiance at school. Believe me, there's nuts out there like Twotterwrench, who think you have to mandate patriotism, and other things, in our schools. I'm not a big fan of "The Body", but he was right on vetoing this bill of forced patriotism.

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6287 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 646 times:

Twaneedsnohelp does.


Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6287 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 644 times:

I guess that to stay within the rules I should expand on this.

Reciting something by rote and being forced into saying it does not make one believe. Governor Venura is so right on this one. It's too bad that American politicians of today don't have the moral fortitude to say what they believe.



Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5070 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 622 times:

Jesse for Prez 2004! An Independent President who isn't nursing on the teat of special interests...I can dream, can't I?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Next Up: STL-LGA-RIC-ATL-STL
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 616 times:

TNNH:

The kids should say the pledge anyway, it reaffirms love and trust for this country as they grow and develop at their maleable young ages.

I don't know about you, but when I was in school, the pledge had NOTHING to do with patriotism. Growing up, and in school, the Pledge was more or less a pain in the ass to all kids. I'm not saying it is right, but thats how it goes. "Forced Patriotism" in the form of the Pledge is pointless.


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