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Keith Olberman Suspended Indefinitely By Msnbc  
User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

Ooops. Gotta wonder if it was the campaign contributions or his plain old down the tubes ratings both on his show and on MSNBC's election night coverage.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ended-for-political-donations.html

Nov. 5 (Bloomberg) -- MSNBC host Keith Olbermann was suspended indefinitely without pay for making political donations in violation of the channel’s policies.

“I became aware of Keith’s political contributions late last night,” Phil Griffin, president of MSNBC, said today in an e-mail. “Mindful of NBC News policy and standards, I have suspended him indefinitely without pay.”



Could it be they were just looking for an excuse?

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User currently offlineUNCRDU From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

Love it. Olbermann is a partisan hack and this is long overdue.

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3255 times:

I don't get this. You let this guy rail and spew out far left crap every night but suspend him when he gives some money? Makes no sense. If you are going to go with him go with him. He already is in the tank what does giving money matter?

User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5296 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3240 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
I don't get this. You let this guy rail and spew out far left crap every night but suspend him when he gives some money? Makes no sense. If you are going to go with him go with him. He already is in the tank what does giving money matter?

Easy, he broke policy which is likely a terminable offense whereas making political comments on his show clearly is not.



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

Quoting UNCRDU (Reply 1):
Olbermann is a partisan hack and this is long overdue.



I don't support him being fired for his commentary or his political views . He is just unlikable as a personality (IMO)... but I am sure many see Hannity as about the same.



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8166 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Quoting dxing (Thread starter):
Gotta wonder if it was the campaign contributions or his plain old down the tubes ratings both on his show

Ratings were icing on the cake but you simply can't violate your contract like that. What a jerkoff.



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8305 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

The guy is the flip side of Beck. Not a big deal if either disappears for a while.

User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

After Olberman smacked FOX's Murdoch for contributions to the Republicans,Olberman gives money to the democrats.OMG! What a nut case. Good journalistic integrity.But he's not,anyway.Just a man of tremedous hate for his political opposition.


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User currently offlinetristarenvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3218 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 3):
Easy, he broke policy which is likely a terminable offense whereas making political comments on his show clearly is not.

Exactly. Good call MSNC, maybe now I'll go back to watching.

I liked this network 'til it went off the left end of the pool, right into deep end. I liked it because it was more "moderate" as opposed to Fox and CNN. Then it just got to be TOO liberal. The night Olberman childishly called for Bush to resign...(and went over his shows time doing it) ... I decided I had enough.



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3207 times:

I guess the right winders as well as Fox News will be celebrating this today as well as their personalities KO often bashed.
Still, KO had to know the rules, that he knew he couldn't get away with it, that Conservative groups were combing through public records as to campign contributions looking for people in the 'left wing' media like Mr. Olberman.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3185 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 9):
I guess the right winders as well as Fox News will be celebrating this today as well as their personalities KO often bashed

I still think something is hinky here. Something isn't adding up. Could be he was on the block already?


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3185 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 6):
The guy is the flip side of Beck


One small problem ... Beck slaps the GOP regularly and if you listen to him you will find that he really say;s the GOP is more of our enemy than the DNC. We know what the liberals want to do ....its the RINOS who win on conservative values and vote progressive that he hates. Olbermann sucks up to anything with a D ... not a good comparison with Beck at all.



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5296 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3176 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):
Could be he was on the block already?

Maybe he was, but we don't know that. What we do know is that he violated his contract, and they had just cause to terminate him.



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 9):
I guess the right winders as well as Fox News will be celebrating this today as well as their personalities KO often bashed.
Still, KO had to know the rules, that he knew he couldn't get away with it, that Conservative groups were combing through public records as to campign contributions looking for people in the 'left wing' media like Mr. Olberman.


Fox News Network (FNN) couldn't care less about who Keith Olberman gives money too or who he shells for. In the entertainment business ratings are everything and that is one thing Keith Olberman (and the rest of MSNBC) simply does not have.


User currently offlineKlima From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

From Huffington:

Quote:
While NBC News policy does not prohibit employees from donating to political candidates, it requires them to obtain prior approval from NBC News executives before doing so...Griffin's statement underscores that it was Olbermann's failure to obtain approval, and not the actual political donations, that prompted the suspension.


Tsk! Tsk!, Keith. I wonder how long he'll be suspended for?


User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 3):
Easy, he broke policy
Quoting PSA53 (Reply 7):
Good journalistic integrity
Quoting OA412 (Reply 12):
What we do know is that he violated his contract,

Number one, even the spokesman for MSNBC isn't commenting on specific policy violations. From the original link:

Chris Hayes will host “Countdown” tonight, MSNBC spokesman Jeremy Gaines said in an e-mail. He didn’t immediately respond to requests to confirm the donations or specific MSNBC policy violations.

I could well understand a policy in place affecting actual journalists that would prohibit them from donating money to a political campaign but lets be serious, Keith Olberman is anything but a journalist. He is a commentator same as Hannity, same as Beck, same as Maddow, same as O'Reilly. They are not held to the same journalistic ethics or standard as a reporter or anchor. So I would be interested to see this "policy".

As to violating his contract, who exactly in this crowd has access to his policy? Most opinion givers, if their agent has a brain, insert clauses into their personal services contracts that would exempt them from this kind of thing. I'd be amazed if he didn't have that kind of protection. I don't think the story is being fully told or is completely over just yet.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):
I still think something is hinky here. Something isn't adding up. Could be he was on the block already?

Agreed, I think this is a smoke screen for low ratings and maybe a person that is hard to get along with. Maddow better watch her back, she could be next.


User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 12):
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):
Could be he was on the block already?

Maybe he was, but we don't know that. What we do know is that he violated his contract, and they had just cause to terminate him.

But what is a concern and the bigger picture,and why I don't like democrats holding fund raisers in SoCal,and like Murdoch and Olberman,who else is contributing behind the Hollywood sign.   



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3081 times:

Quoting Klima (Reply 14):
Tsk! Tsk!, Keith. I wonder how long he'll be suspended for?

I'm getting the feeling not too long.

Quoting dxing (Reply 15):
Agreed, I think this is a smoke screen for low ratings and maybe a person that is hard to get along with. Maddow better watch her back, she could be next.

Especially since the election has shown the country moving away from her fringe. She really is a hater and a person who has not intention of working with anyone. She wants the whole country to be like San Francisco and that is just not going to happen.


User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 6):
The guy is the flip side of Beck. Not a big deal if either disappears for a while.

Agreed. I wish we could ditch all of the news channels and talking heads altogether. We'd be better off as a country.


User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 13):
Fox News Network (FNN) couldn't care less about who Keith Olberman gives money too or who he shells for. In the entertainment business ratings are everything and that is one thing Keith Olberman (and the rest of MSNBC) simply does not have.

   MSNBC is simply no threat to Fox at all. This will provide delightful cannon fodder for O'Reilly's show tonight!

First NPR fires Juan Williams for speaking his mind, now Olberman gets **** canned for doing what comes naturally (to him). I think I'll actually have to watch Chris Matthews for once and see how he explains it.
        



"When all is said and done, more will be said than done".
User currently offlinewindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2738 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

And toss in the Disaster of an election night on MSNBC with their 100% biased panel and it does not add up to a good week for them.


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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5296 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 18):
Agreed. I wish we could ditch all of the news channels and talking heads altogether. We'd be better off as a country.

Exactly. All of this talk of MSNBC being biased or Rachel Maddow being a hater is ridiculous. ALL of the talking heads at ALL of the networks are biased and all have come across as "haters" at one time or another. Denying such is playing into partisan politics, plain and simple.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Quoting windy95 (Reply 20):
And toss in the Disaster of an election night on MSNBC with their 100% biased panel and it does not add up to a good week for them.

Their total lack of respect was overwhelming. How they treated Bachmann was disgusting and I am surprised Matthews didn't get reprimanded. Only to jump all over Malkin when she mocked Pelosi while she wasn't talking to her. It's just status quo for a company who is has one purpose. To further the George Soros agenda.


User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 22):
Their total lack of respect was overwhelming. How they treated Bachmann was disgusting and I am surprised Matthews didn't get reprimanded. Only to jump all over Malkin when she mocked Pelosi while she wasn't talking to her. It's just status quo for a company who is has one purpose. To further the George Soros agenda.

Then don't watch it   

Fox is no better.

That's why I don't watch either one.


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6006 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2911 times:

Funny thing is, if you look at the MSNBC ruleset, the rule he is alleged to have broken, doesn't really sounds like it fit Olbermann anyway:

"Anyone working for NBC News who takes part in civic or other outside activities may find that these activities jeopardize his or her standing as an impartial journalist because they may create the appearance of a conflict of interest. Such activities may include participation in or contributions to political campaigns or groups that espouse controversial positions. You should report any such potential conflicts in advance to, and obtain prior approval of, the President of NBC News or his designee."

Keith Olbermann being impartial? That'd be the day.


25 us330 : And today's worst person in the in the world is.....
26 dxing : Agreed, which is why I question if it is the real reason he is suspended or just a convenient excuse for a non-producer in the ratings.
27 Post contains images Aphonic : Indeed, he wasn't much better with Sharron Angle either. I know some on the far left like to claim FOX is equally as vile or worse than Chris Matthew
28 BMI727 : It is policy and he broke it. But, why have that policy? Olberman is a biased guy working at a biased network. I don't see why it is so evil for him
29 Post contains images Ken777 : The idiot who suspended a guy making the network good money. Probably more profitable for MSNBC than the idiot who fired him under the assumption tha
30 DocLightning : But I thought MSNBC was part of the Vast Liberal Media Conspiracy. How's THAT square?
31 EA CO AS : This is a no-brainer - most corporations have ethics policies that state you cannot accept or give anything to/from someone that may put you in a posi
32 Post contains images Aaron747 : FWIW, Mathews was much more moderate before Olbermann and Maddow dragged the network to the left. I'd bet a fair amount that he turned Olbermann in
33 dxing : Again, while that may be true for their journalists, it should have no bearing on commentators like Olberman. No one watching him, Maddow, Hannity, o
34 NIKV69 : Oh yea I bet he was real moderate when he worked for Carter.
35 Mir : He is. Getting Olbermann off the air is a good first step - the next one is to get Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, Maddow and Matthews off as well. Or at le
36 NIKV69 : Sure sounds a lot like censorship to me. Now we are going to decide what shows are allowed to be broadcast?
37 Mir : It's what I'd like to see the networks do of their own volition - have the focus be on the news, and have the commentary as a supplement, rather than
38 us330 : No, the problem isn't that the shows are on the air. The problem is that when people watch opinion type shows, they tend to turn their brains off and
39 Post contains links Aphonic : Then that would leave places like NBC,ABC, CBS and NYT to get one's news. Those elite liberals live in their own liberal cocooned universe. Charlie G
40 Aphonic : It sure does. It's not doing "liberals" any good. Things were fine and dandy for liberals prior to the advent of Foxnews when the media was monopoliz
41 StuckInCA : LOL. Whatever blows your hair back, bub. Maybe he's tired from, you know, covering the elections? Who knows? Who cares?
42 CometII : Not that far, but there SHOULD be a broadcast requirement for a disclaimer at the start of shows like Beck, Hannity, Maddow and Countdown, written an
43 WarRI1 : As has been seen and heard on here from the devotee's of Fox and their talking heads who pass on, and preach the policy of hate and mis-information,
44 Mir : It would also leave Fox and MSNBC. Unless you're suggesting that all the people I mentioned are the only sources of news on said networks. -Mir
45 dxing : Soon as they get ride of shows like Survivor, American Idol, Chasing the Kardasians, and Dancing with the Stars....oh, check that, I can change the c
46 ltbewr : The factor that probably got KO suspended is that he gave contributions to candidates for office who also appeared on his 'Countdown' show. Two were c
47 STT757 : Absolutely, These shows are marketed as "News", when in reality they are op/Ed. They should not be marketed as op/ed, not news.
48 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Good. Now if only Hannity, Beck, Maddow, O'Reilly, and Matthews would go away too. Our country could finally drop the hyperpartisan atmosphere. It's n
49 NIKV69 : How do you do this when the network also covers the news?
50 Post contains images Boeing4ever : They do the news probably 10% of the time. The rest of it is either some stupid op/ed BS, or celebrity trash pieces. You can't seriously tell me that
51 Post contains links Aphonic : A better place to start would be at the white House. Obama has been the most divisive, partisan president in our life times. And, if you were to get
52 Post contains images Boeing4ever : He's no better or worse than George W. Bush Jr. was. In fact, Obama just proved that "the more things change, the more they stay the same." So much f
53 Dreadnought : How often did GWB blame his problems on his predecessor? How often did GWB demean and insult his opponents in Congress? Even when the GOP had majorit
54 Aphonic : Mir and Boeing4ever, What you guys are suggesting is a prelude to state run media, giving the ability to the party in power to decide what's said and
55 STT757 : As opposed to Corporations with agendas dictating the news, I love it the conservative Foxnews is owned by an Australian who's married to a Chinese c
56 dxing : When and where are they marketed as "news"? The show titles don't have "news" in them and the show descriptions clearly state "an unconventional look
57 Ken777 : And those elite conservatives live in their own liberal cocooned universe. Americans are as gullible as anyone else. Two years after kicking the Repu
58 STT757 : The Fox"news" logo on the screen during the show for starters.
59 dxing : Again, news, whether commentary on, or hard reporting of, is still "news". If Hannity has a Senator on and he makes some sort of revealing statment a
60 Ken777 : Odd as it sounds, Dance with the Stars has been on the news shows periodically because Palin's daughter is in it.
61 Mir : Show me where I said I wanted more regulations. Don't forget funded in part by a Saudi prince who, in the words of one of FoxNews' contributors, "fun
62 Aphonic : Not going to fall for it -Mir. Your accusation is just one of your many patented dodges. What's more, it's irrelevant because the only way to get you
63 Post contains images Ken777 : Obviously a Fox Fan. Oddly enough it is possible to be pro-American without being blind to her problems. Like actually invading another country. Supp
64 Post contains images Aaron747 : Some of us in the middle would actually prefer if all the bleating media goats just shut up so we could hear some news that matters, rather than play
65 Post contains links Aphonic : The recent NPR scandal involving Juan Williams, his firing basically boiled down to Juan's free speech. Then there's the CNN Eason Jordan's scandal i
66 Post contains images Mir : I see. You can't back up your accusation, so you try to spin it back against me. Nice try. Please reread Reply #37. Prove it. -Mir
67 Post contains images Aaron747 : Um, CNN is a business, everyone knew that already - and depressed information that could have barred them from a country generating much of the world
68 Post contains links Aphonic : That's how I see it. If his ratings were better, his show successful they would have just slapped him on the wrist. Here's an article from Feb of thi
69 Aaron747 : Sad state of affairs when you're below an absolute blowhard like Nancy Grace, LOL.
70 Aphonic : -Mir, I told you I'm not going to fall for your daft little games. Your whole premise hinges on your idea of a better media. OK Mir, I will ask you ag
71 Aaron747 : I'll take your non-response to being called out on your illogical bias as a lack of response, thanks.
72 Aphonic : It was hard not to. Their crime was not reporting all of it. FYI, this is America where one has a right to live as one wants... anti-Americanism is n
73 Mir : I've already answered this several times: The network executives. The network executives. At the risk of repeating myself...the network executives. I
74 Post contains images Aphonic : The network executives. Look, Bloomberg news has a strong liberal lean, no doubt about it and I'm not going to debate that because it's another threa
75 Post contains images Aaron747 : Oh, boy. Slander now? You're amazing. Where's the court case where they were convicted as an organization of slander? Oh, right, nothing doing - than
76 Post contains links Aphonic : Aaron747, You condone CNN's morally reprehensible treatment of our troops, made no attempt to defend our troops, but defended CNN's lie regarding our
77 BMI727 : People don't need that. If they are too stupid to distinguish facts from opinions, there is nothing anyone can do for them. Stupidproofing everything
78 Post contains images Boeing4ever : While he himself may not have, not coherently anyways, his supporters blamed Clinton for a lot. Particularly after 9/11, which btw, is mostly the fau
79 stasisLAX : Since when has General Electric and Comcast's corporate policies overrode constitutional liberties to support whatever politician a citizen wishes????
80 BMI727 : They aren't limiting his rights. He has the right to give money to or say whatever he wishes. But he isn't allowed to do that and work for them or sa
81 dxing : Good luck with that. They are on cable not over the open airwaves so the rules that the FCC can enforce are pretty limited. As long as they aren't be
82 seb146 : I would like some explination: Right-wing commentators have shows on FOX. Left-wing commentators have shows on MSNBC. The differenct I see is the same
83 WarRI1 : Why then are you folks addicted to SHOWS? do you slavishly follow and preach about Dancing with the stars? That is a show. Rush to judgement Limburge
84 UNCRDU : Fox has news during the day and opinion at night. MSNBC has news during the day and opinion at night. They both follow the same format. Both are prim
85 dxing : Would you care to be specific?
86 seb146 : I guess what I don't understand is: FOX bills itself as news. Even during the day when Megan Kelly throws her right-wing opinion around every politic
87 Post contains links dxing : Perhaps you are reading into it. Why not read her bio. http://www.foxnews.com/bios/talent/megyn-kelly/ Bret Bair is a commentator? Cavuto? America's
88 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Gee, blatantly lying. Sounds like a lot of FOX and MSNBC right there. Not so with FOX, MSNBC, and CNN. They mix everything quite well. They spend ver
89 NIKV69 : Keith is coming back. No shock as this was obviously just a stunt for NBC to seem like that are upholding their ethics. I am sure Soros will have the
90 Post contains links ltbewr : Read and weep all you KO haters out there - the 'exile' is over: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1...-olbermann-to-return_n_780141.html Yep, the bo
91 Post contains images NIKV69 : I think he will not have any issue getting any donations approved.
92 Post contains links seb146 : Ummm... That has already been done. http://www.campaignmoney.com/news_corporation.asp
93 Post contains links and images Boeing4ever : Read and weep all you partisans, here's a dose of reality: http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/11/0.../avlon.olbermann/index.html?hpt=T2 (CNN) -- Keith O
94 Aphonic : Your article is hypocritical, smarmy and disingenuous. Why? For starters media matters is one of the most extreme left wing, "hyperpartisan" news out
95 WarRI1 : I will take the political atmosphere which existed before the advent of Fox News anyday, the pall of hatred that now hangs over this countries politi
96 Post contains links Aphonic : You're joking right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwVYgHLicHg Joy Behar: Sharron Angle is a Bitch & Going to Hell
97 WarRI1 : I said before Fox News, things were not as toxic, not after, no I am not kidding, just making an observation. I think many would arrive at the same c
98 dxing : I went through Fox's line up on my cable box today. 11 hours devoted to straight newscasts, 3 hours devoted to their morning magazine show. That leav
99 ltbewr : Programing often has cycles of popularity with different styles comming in, dominating, then fading away to another style, format or theme as ratings
100 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Says who? A conservative like you? The "source" here is John Avlon, who researched this topic using both data from Media Matters as well as other sou
101 Post contains images Aphonic : So it's all Fox's fault So it's Foxnews fault Dan Rather decided to run a phony story about George Bush prior to the 2004 elections to help sway the
102 seb146 : Including commentary from right-wingers. Including commentary from right-wingers. Also, let's not forget that the entire opinion of any percieved lef
103 dxing : No, straight newscasts. While the people you call "rightwingers" may be interviewed or reported about they are not doing straight commentary anymore
104 dxing : No, that adds up to 11 hours of news reporting. Then there are 3 hours of a news magazine which includes both commentary and new reporting as well as
105 Post contains links Mir : I give you Megyn Kelly, whom I believe FoxNews considers to be part of their news programming, making one long accusation: http://www.youtube.com/wat
106 Aphonic : Where were the lies? You're going to need to be far more specific to be taken seriously.
107 Post contains links dxing : Against a spokesman for a group about the groups statements about another individual. A far cry from what Matthews was doing to Rep. Bachman as a per
108 Mir : Matthews was asking her about her statements regarding what the GOP should do to other individuals. Except for the fact that CAIR isn't a single pers
109 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Those 3 hours are basically slanted news reporting mixed with commentary. Add the remaining 10 hours of commentary, then in a 24 hour day, FOX is a c
110 dxing : Totally different to demean the person versus question the originizations true objectives. Later? He was condescending right off the bat and then had
111 Aphonic : The youtube link you provided proves Fox is in Fact Fair and Balanced and does not help your argument. The link has Megan Kelly, a WHITE conservative
112 Mir : They both did both. Kelly was demeaning to Hooper, and Matthews questioned Bachmann's objectives. No more than Kelly was, until he dropped the line a
113 Ken777 : I can't believe so many people keep up with MSNBC & FOX. I was going to see what was happening on MSNBC, but She-WHo-Must-Be-Obeyed decided it was
114 Post contains images Mir : Wow, I'm not even sure that was the right call. And I don't like MSNBC. DWTS = -Mir
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