Springbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 13 Posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2111 times:
Welfare agencies are urging the Federal Government to find a solution to a growing problem of New Zealanders finding themselves destitute in Australia.
Agencies say New Zealanders are not eligible for welfare benefits and some are resorting to begging.
Tony Keenan from Hanover Welfare Services in Melbourne says it is a growing national problem.
KiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 5286 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2037 times:
I'm pretty suprised by this I would have thought most homeless Kiwi's in Australia would have family in NZ who they could ask for help to bring them back, however the dark side of me says better they stay in Australia and be a problem for them to resolve rather than send them home to be a drain on our welfare system.
fridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1383 posts, RR: 11 Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2012 times:
Very sad to see, as I'm trying to emigrate to Oz (with not much luck!).
Are conditions that bad in NZ that encourages a lot of Kiwi's to emigrate?
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EDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2004 times:
Quoting fridgmus (Reply 2): Are conditions that bad in NZ that encourages a lot of Kiwi's to emigrate?
Not at all. I migrated to NZ from the UK 4 years ago and things are fine here, notwthstanding the recent quake! The attraction of Oz to Kiwis is higher earnings. An understandable attraction sure enough, but it's not like things are that bad here and the grass isn't always greener on the other side as some poor souls have unfortunately found out the hard way.
I'm sure I heard on TV here a little while back that inward migration is actually exceeding outward migration.
Kent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 888 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1834 times:
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 12): Well economically speaking, it might not be a bad idea to just jump on your back and take a bigger piggy back than we're already getting!
Yes, certainly a positive for Kiwi economic interests. Not 100% sure what Oz would get economically (environmentally viable agriculture perhaps, plus good service industry?). Currency issues (AUD$1.28 tot he Kiwi atm) could be a blockage.... NZ's foreign policy would be a challenmge for integration too, being more independent than Australia.
And, as we know, NZ is closer to Oz east coast than Perth, and was, for a long time, more likely to become the 6th state of Australia than WA - until the railway line commitment.....
NZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 5672 posts, RR: 40 Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1817 times:
Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 13): more likely to become the 6th state of Australia than WA - until the railway line commitment.....
It was actually a part of NSW before becoming NZ.. Things were run from Sydney because it was already established and there was basically nothing in NZ. I realise, monetary policy is the only thing blocking the ANZAC dollar.. Which I'd like to see one day.
Springbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 13 Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1802 times:
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 1): better they stay in Australia and be a problem for them to resolve rather than send them home to be a drain on our welfare system.
Lol..why not? We are already paying for others..you know..boat people, ship people etc..so why not help out our neighbours?
But seriously speaking..I think Kiwis should be subjected to the same immigration laws as anyone else entering Oz..they should be able to show financial support etc..and the same should be done by the Kiwi immigration to Aussies. That way it'll minimize stuff like this happening.
What I don't get is that our immigration dept. cant seem to do anything about this..and they are saying as long as the Kiwis are here legally..they cant do anything about it. But I thought all Kiwis coming here (and Aussies going to NZ) are legal..I mean we don't require visas to travel to either country, and we can stay indefinitely in both countries..so why would Kiwis/Aussies try to get into each others countries illegally?
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