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Mysterious Missile Launch In LA?  
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4389 times:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/09/national/main7036716.shtml


What the? Not even venturing a guess but picked this up on Tammy Bruce's twitter.

Can't wait to see what this is!

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User currently offlineua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4384 times:

Let the finger pointing begin within the Pentagon.

They stated that they did not know what it was but were "not surprised" by what occurred.



"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
User currently offlineRubberJungle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4380 times:

Looks like an optical illusion to me. Contrail from an approaching aircraft, maybe. Wouldn't be the first.

User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7197 posts, RR: 85
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4373 times:
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I just posted an identical thread.   

My Dad sent me the article and said he saw the missile from his 8th floor office in Newport Beach, overlooking Catalina Island. No comment from the military. Dad said the missile didn't appear to be weaponized, but much larger in size.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4345 times:

I just saw this on a general info site. This is very mysterious indeed. It looks like the missile was launched from the sea off the coast of Southern California.

Could it be one of these... maybe?
UGM-84 Sub Harpoon (United States), Underwater weapons - Guided ASW/ASUW weapons
http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-...-84-Sub-Harpoon-United-States.html

Strangely no one seems to know what it is or where it came from. It was caughte on video, sunset time, apparently a big missile.

They say NORAD could not detect the missile and Pentagon knows zilch (my eye!)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...ngeles-mystery-pentagon-officials/

Mystery Missile: Launch of Unknown Missile Caught on Tape in California
Navy, Military Investigating Missile Video; No Agencies Claim Responsibility Yet

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/myste...california-coast/story?id=12097155

Videos and pictures
http://www.cbs8.com/global/category....pId=5274555&flvUri=&partnerclipid=

What if it was launched by a foreign power? (I don't know... I am just asking...)
Why the silence? I find it strange that the Pentagon says they know zilch.

I find it strange that NORAD said they couldent track it.

Any of you forum members see the missile? Anyone here catch pictures of it?

   

[Edited 2010-11-09 11:06:10]


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineRubberJungle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4304 times:



This isn't the "missile" from today's report. This is a previous similar event which, I believe, was attributed to a jet contrail.

Draw your own conclusions.


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7197 posts, RR: 85
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4302 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 4):

Any of you forum members see the missile? Anyone here catch pictures of it?

As I stated previously, my Dad saw it, and he compared the size of it to a Shuttle SRBs.

Just got a text on iPhone from him: Not to be a conspiracist, but I have heard of the possible EMP dangers, going way back to when Iran had a launch that was a “failure” because it blew-up at a 3 mile altitude.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24890 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4275 times:

I dont think it should be too mysterious. We had a bunch of active Notams yesterday covering coastal airspace.

Matter of fact, more are published for today, including:

Quote:
A2832/10 - THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR
WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537.
IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS
ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION
SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176.
CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED. SURFACE - FL390, 09 NOV 20:00 2010 UNTIL 10
NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 08 NOV 20:52 2010

Plus closure of other coastal blocks of airspace from Surface to Unlimited altitude.

Quote:
11/084 (A2837/10) - AIRSPACE W61 ACT SFC-UNL. 09 NOV 15:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 03:00 2010. CREATED:09 NOV 09:33 2010

11/083 (A2838/10) - AIRSPACE W60 ACT SFC-UNL. 09 NOV 15:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 03:00 2010. CREATED:
09 NOV 09:33 2010

11/082 (A2836/10) - AIRSPACE W290 ACT SFC-UNL. 09 NOV 15:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 03:00 2010. CREATED:
09 NOV 09:33 2010

11/081 (A2835/10) - AIRSPACE W289N ACT SFC-UNL. 09 NOV 15:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 03:00 2010. CREATED:
09 NOV 09:33 2010

11/080 (A2834/10) - AIRSPACE W289 ACT SFC-UNL. 09 NOV 15:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 03:00 2010. CREATED:
09 NOV 09:33 2010




[Edited 2010-11-09 11:33:13]


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4271 times:

How could this "thing" not be intercepted if it was foreign or "illegal"? There must be some radars thar saw it... Might have been launched from a submarine (again I don't know... i am just asking...)?
Why did it not get intercepted? The contrail is huge... this is not any amateur missile...

Pentagon still mum about it. No one knows what it is... CNN says its an airplane? all planes have transponders and are tracked...

Some are saying it is some kind of meteor... For as much as I know a meteor doesnt go straight up from the sea... This is getting rather interesting.

 Yeah sure  Confused  Wow!

[Edited 2010-11-09 11:23:33]


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8032 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4225 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 8):

Pentagon still mum about it. No one knows what it is... CNN says its an airplane? all planes have transponders and are tracked...

Some are saying it is some kind of meteor... For as much as I know a meteor doesnt go straight up from the sea... This is getting rather interesting.

Oh calm down. Obviously something DoD related that they don't want to talk about - has been going on in SoCal for decades.



If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4209 times:

Anybody know what the Mythbusters have been up to lately?   


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User currently offlineStarbuk7 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 599 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4165 times:

Maybe it was a UFO and that is why no one picked it up on radar.

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4128 times:

I wonder if this was seen from any commercial flights?
What routes are going nearby? LAX-HNL maybe? Probably some other routes as well.

   



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlinewjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5130 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4109 times:

I'm absolutely mystified as to why nobody has asked whether it is a fighter jet in steep climb. If in fact it is not a large pax jet in an optical illusion (which I assume is the case as the video was shot by a helicopter pilot for the station, and we would have seen the end point of the video), then perhaps it is just a fighter jet in steep climb off the San Diego coast.

Has anyone seen Top Gun? End of story.


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4772 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4081 times:
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Quoting Starbuk7 (Reply 11):
Maybe it was a UFO and that is why no one picked it up on radar.

Uh well since it hasn't been identified yet, I'd say it IS a UFO.

Or did you mean an alien?  



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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4021 times:

Seriously though..they don't know what it is..and they're saying its not a threat! How the hell can you say its not a threat when you don't even know what it is?! If a Cessna without a flight plan crossing the border IS a possible threat, A MISSILE is not? Are we really that dumb to accept this kind of explanation? What is the cover up?


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User currently offlinewindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2713 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4014 times:

Looks like a Contrail and a Jet getting lit up by the setting sun to me.


OMG-Obama Must Go
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3994 times:

Quoting windy95 (Reply 16):

Whatever it is, those in command should be capable of knowing, ant they should let people know.
This is now going on the news worldwide.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

Seriously, people need to calm the heck down. That's not a missile. While yes I am fully aware there are missile test sites all over california, I have seen numerous times a very similar effect at dawn at my location, not in the US and nowhere near any missile test sites, where a certain flight's contrail always lines up in such a way that it lights up in it's entirety, and the fuselage makes this glint in the sun which may make it seem as its an exhaust plume. And I've seen it at sunset as well. Not to mention missiles move considerably faster, even when viewed from far away. And the Government usually does announce when there is a missile launch. And if it was anything truly hostile I REALLY doubt they would've just thrown their hands up in the air and said "O well who knows"

It's gonna be annoying hearing all the conspiracy theorists go on and on about this.   

[Edited 2010-11-09 13:31:51]

User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4772 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3902 times:
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For what it's worth, my girlfriend asks me all the time if contrails are missiles. She always mistakes contrails that appear from the horizon much like whatever is in the pictures as missiles going straight up when in fact, it's a contrail coming from FAR away, well below the horizon to over our heads. So it's a mistake people do make...


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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3885 times:

C'mon people, use your heads. If this was a classified/secret launch, do we really expect NORAD, the Pentagon, and all other levels of military in the know to even admit they knew what it was, let alone saying they were responsible for it?

Besides, LAXintl seems to have already solved the puzzle:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
I dont think it should be too mysterious. We had a bunch of active Notams yesterday covering coastal airspace.

Matter of fact, more are published for today, including:

Quote:

A2832/10 - THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR
WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537.
IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS
ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION
SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176.
CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED. SURFACE - FL390, 09 NOV 20:00 2010 UNTIL 10
NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 08 NOV 20:52 2010

Plus closure of other coastal blocks of airspace from Surface to Unlimited altitude.

Quote:

11/084 (A2837/10) - AIRSPACE W61 ACT SFC-UNL. 09 NOV 15:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 03:00 2010. CREATED:09 NOV 09:33 2010

11/083 (A2838/10) - AIRSPACE W60 ACT SFC-UNL. 09 NOV 15:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 03:00 2010. CREATED:
09 NOV 09:33 2010

11/082 (A2836/10) - AIRSPACE W290 ACT SFC-UNL. 09 NOV 15:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 03:00 2010. CREATED:
09 NOV 09:33 2010

11/081 (A2835/10) - AIRSPACE W289N ACT SFC-UNL. 09 NOV 15:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 03:00 2010. CREATED:
09 NOV 09:33 2010

11/080 (A2834/10) - AIRSPACE W289 ACT SFC-UNL. 09 NOV 15:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 03:00 2010. CREATED:
09 NOV 09:33 2010



This is a rough outline on my part showing the locations of the above emboldened Warning areas, and the tan dots representing approximately 35 miles (the distance said object was supposedly launched) from the southwest point of LA.:


http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4864/67695067.jpg


Case closed.



"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3870 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 20):
Case closed.

Coincidence.

http://www.examiner.com/weather-in-l...over-southern-california-explained


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19419 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3839 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 20):
If this was a classified/secret launch,

Then why would they do it right in front of Los Angeles for the whole world (literally) to see?

It's obviously a submarine ICBM launch. Whose ICBM and why is anyone's guess. But if it wasn't ours, then we're in trouble because if someone can sneak up on LA and fire a missile, that's...um... bad.


User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3824 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 22):

It's obviously a submarine ICBM launch. Whose ICBM and why is anyone's guess. But if it wasn't ours, then we're in trouble because if someone can sneak up on LA and fire a missile, that's...um... bad.

Right. If it wasn't ours to begin with I highly doubt anybody in NORAD would just sit back and relax and continue sipping their coffee.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19419 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3752 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 23):

Right. If it wasn't ours to begin with I highly doubt anybody in NORAD would just sit back and relax and continue sipping their coffee.

Well, to play devil's advocate, if it were the Russians or someone saying: "Boo!" do you think that NORAD would up and advertise that fact and rile the populace into a tizzy?


25 Fly2HMO : A valid point. However, it's pretty safe to say we'd be seeing heightened activity at military bases by now. None of which has happened yet AFAIK.
26 STT757 : I don't know what it is, but for some reason the first thought that went through my head was a Chinese Submarine doing a show the flag exercise off th
27 DocLightning : That would be a very poor idea on their part. You do not launch an ICBM 32 miles off LA unless you are the USA. That's a very good way to start a nuc
28 DiamondFlyer : No it wasn't. The posted NOTAMs show the airspace was closed TODAY, not yesterday. Either somebody made a big paper pushing error, or we really have
29 mham001 : I wish he or somebody had or would, but those are all for today and tonight. I have not seen any Notams for yesterday posted.
30 vikkyvik : Having finally seen the video (couldn't see it at work), my vote goes to airliner contrail. Having seen a rocket launch from Vandenberg just this past
31 Mudboy : Wow! Seriously folks, are we that bored today? It seems obvious the DOD was testing something, that we don't need to know about, since when do they ha
32 WarRI1 : That is what I saw on the news, a person in the know said the very same thing, far too slow for a rocket.
33 tbar220 : Speculation time!! Is it at all possible, that because of the angle we viewed this from, that what we saw could actually have been something entering
34 PITrules : How can dad tell if a missile is weaponized when it is perhaps 20-50 feet long at 100 miles away? What dad saw was the contrail, not the "missile" it
35 Post contains images Fly2HMO : Well you haven't seen enough I live under a very very busy VOR and I've seen airliners do that exact same effect more than a few times. It's not too
36 DocLightning : Then what's with the airspace closures?
37 DiamondFlyer : Who cares about the airspace closures. They were no where near the time of this event. Haven't you realized that yet? -DiamondFlyer
38 seb146 : I caught about 15 minutes of Karel today on Green 960. He was talking with some friends flying back from HNL and they said the pilot said they had to
39 Post contains images Fly2HMO : Doc, you're disappointing me, I thought you were good at this stuff. Anyways, those closures happen all the time on that coast. It's basically the Na
40 PITrules : But special use airspace is nothing new. Has it been determined what the compass bearing is of that photo in relation to the photographer? It may not
41 Post contains images TWAMD-80 : Oh come on people, I have the true answer! This is obviously a case of light from Venus reflected by a weather balloon into swamp gas!!!! TW
42 Post contains links 4holer : Posted in the Examiner link above... http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...8/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX
43 fca767 : Well if it was the Russians then they'd say hey we just did this...
44 Post contains images worldrider : Have you ever heard about "Hyper Soar"..just google it. My and others opinion is: it's no just project. c'mon guys the Russsians and the US possess th
45 Post contains links worldrider : for those who can understand french, here is my source, a bad quality video link, comments from a scientist who says to be one of the pioneers in MHD
46 worldrider : some comment in english: "HyperSoar Hypersonic Global Range Recce/Strike Aircraft A HyperSoar hypersonic Global Range Recce/Strike Aircraft the size o
47 flanker : guys guys, top gear is in the process of filming a new season.. i am sure they had something to do with it! Last time they only went a few thousand fe
48 4holer : Ever seen the sun glinting off of an airliner? Yeah, it happens. Alot. Come on folks, this is not that difficult. USAirways 808 from Honolulu to Phoe
49 Post contains images Fly2HMO : Seriously. I am disappointed.
50 Post contains links fxramper : Now a conspiracy theorist self-proclaimed chemtrail scientist is telling us it's a plane. http://contrailscience.com/ I'm sorry I wasn't more clear. W
51 Post contains links wardialer : They have these so called launches throughout that area often from Point Mugu down to San Nicolas Island were they in fact used this area for missile
52 flymia : Anyway can someone tell me why this is not an airliner or want I really think it might just be some amateur rocket. Classic!
53 Post contains links and images Fly2HMO : Would it hurt to read the thread? Alright alright I'll make it easy for you: http://blog.bahneman.com/content/it-was-us-airways-flight-808 http://unc
54 Post contains links Flybaurlax : I just have to say that this really does not look like a rocket launch just by the contrail alone. I can't tell you other than I think it's the sun re
55 Post contains images okie : I think Dennis Miller nailed it: " This is Charlie Sheen after some pharmaceutical blow" Okie
56 comorin : NY Magazine thinks it's Meg Whitman leaving after blowing $140M on her election...
57 Post contains links and images Fly2HMO : Alright, case closed, I was right the whole time, it was a plane: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40112161/ns/us_news-security/ http://www.sott.net/articl
58 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : So it wasn't an airplane? Was this really a ICBM missile? "Department of Defense" November 6, 2010 United States of America "Notice To Mariners" Publ
59 vikkyvik : Read the reply above yours:
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