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F1 2010 Abu Dhabi: The Final Chapter  
User currently offlinecodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3751 times:

Circuit: Yas Marina, Abu Dhabi, UAE.
Date: 14 November 2010
Circuit length: 5.554 km
Laps: 55
Race distance: 305.355 km
Fastes lap: S. Vettel (GER) 1:40.279
Last year's winner: S. Vettel (GER)


So...... the season is nearing to the end. No racing until March  
We'll get to know who wind the WDC.

Go Fernando/Mark 

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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3726 times:

The big question is, if the situation arises, will Vettel move over?

User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3720 times:

Id hope Vettell would move over! He's got to remember what goes around, comes around and next year he could find himself in Webbers spot!

User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12464 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3717 times:
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Quoting bill142 (Reply 1):
The big question is, if the situation arises, will Vettel move over?

If the situation arises where Vettel starts the last lap in the lead, with Webber 2nd and Alonso 3rd, he would be expected to allow Webber through. Will he? I've been quick to criticise Vettel this year, some of his antics have been very childish. However, if he does move over for Webber, then he will have gone up hugely in my estimation.

Of course, this conjecture assumes Vettel, Webber and Alonso are all fighting for the lead. It should not be forgotten that Hamilton was on pole last year. A Hamilton win would just about guarantee Alonso the WDC.

I suspect it won't be dull.



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

Hmmm.... 2. Bundesliga and the last F1 race of the season at the same time... seems that I will use my remote control quite often on Sunday afternoon!   I am not a big F1 fan anymore but I hope that Vettel will make it!

Patrick


User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3692 times:
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I'm still hoping for Vettel to win the title, so I'm hoping Alonso's engine blows as spectacularly as Vettel's did in Korea. For Vettel to claim the title, he needs to win the race with Webber no higher than second and Alonso no higher than fifth. So if Vettel leads Webber in a Red Bull 1-2, with both McLarens in Ferrari's way at 3 and 4, Vettel will be champion!  


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3637 times:

Thank you for opening the thread for what will be the last race of the season.

Abu Dhabi is becoming the "New Monaco" -- aside from yet another TilkeDrome -- for the number of mega-wealthies, ultra-celebs and mega-yachts attending the race, probably more to be seen than by their true interest for Formula 1 and the teams. Not with a Prince but with a Sheikh and with much less historic past than Monaco but a lot more money even.

If you want to see what goes on and around Abu Dhabi before and during the race, you can take it from the UAE National newspaper's sites where you can follow the GP as if you were there.

Gulf News:
http://gulfnews.com/in-focus/abu-dhabi-grand-prix

The National --> good coverage here!
http://www.thenational.ae/sport/moto...e-of-the-abu-dhabi-grand-prix-2010

Khaleej Times
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/sport/in...a1_November17.xml&section=formula1

About the race itself, I believe all is open until the finish, the end of the last lap.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 5):
I'm hoping Alonso's engine blows as spectacularly as Vettel's did in Korea.

My take is that this is not a good way to wish on winning a F1 World Champion title.
I hope no engine "blow". Mechanical failure is a different story although I would prefer to see none during this last race.

An unusual fact... Abu Dhabi had some rarely seen rain.

  



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User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2753 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3634 times:

Cheers for starting the thread.

Quoting codeshare (Thread starter):
No racing until March

There is always F1 2010 for Xbox or PS3  

As an avid Ferrari tifosi, I would like for Alonso to claim the title... however and if the rumours are true, I would not mind for Webber to win the title, give the finger to Red Bull's big wigs for the way they treated him and retire in peace.

Vettel will have many more years to claim a title (or titles).

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12464 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3609 times:
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Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 7):
Vettel will have many more years to claim a title (or titles).

But he may never have as good a car as he's had this year. He really should have already had the WDC sewn up.



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User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2753 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 8):
But he may never have as good a car as he's had this year

Hmm... this year RB had THE car on the entire grid, and all they have to do for next year's is just improve the current one, correct me if I am wrong but I don't think there will be major changes for next year (other than Pirelli being the main tyre supplier and something about KERS)

Quoting scbriml (Reply 8):
He really should have already had the WDC sewn up.

True, if it wasn't for all the cock-ups, this year should have been a straight Webber-Vettel battle.

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 8):
But he may never have as good a car as he's had this year


If the car is not as good, or better, next year it has more to do with that the other teams have closed the gap.
Like mentioned earlier by Bill142 in another thread, the Mercedes team with their money pumping in to the team will most likely see a drastic change in performance. They sure have the brains already in the team.

What I like about RBR is that they as a private team is leaving the manufacturers behind. Pretty neat.

Just think about it: Vettel, Alonso and Webber is pushing so hard on Sunday that they take each other out, and winner is....................................Hamilton, winning the title by 1 point. 



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3550 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 10):

Just think about it: Vettel, Alonso and Webber is pushing so hard on Sunday that they take each other out, and winner is....................................Hamilton, winning the title by 1 point.

Wishing this would come true... although I very much doubt it will.

 



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

It's pretty simple: If Alonso wins, it's entirely RBR's fault for losing it by themselves. Alonso deserves all my respect because he's been less of a crybaby and most of all because he's managed to stay competitive despite a crappy first half of the season and a car much slower then the RBR's, and yet he always believed in his chances. By mid season he was the only one who thought he would have chance by know, so congrats to him for believing and for perforimg the way he did.
The RBR's are favourite to win the title though. They have the best car and have the chances of using both drivers in order to make Webber win (unlike Ferrari where there's no help from Massa). I can easily see a 1-2 of RBR at the starting grid and then just let the race flow. Assuming Vettel won't be an a$$, I honeslty think Webber has the biggest chances of winning the WDC. So as a Ferrari fan I hopw Vettel is an a$$ 

I can't wait for Sunday ... a hell of a race with 4 contenders .. wow! when was the last time this happened? And the positive thing about this season was that we had 5 real contenders fighting it out each race (until interlagos), something that we were hoping for back in March  



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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3546 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 8):
But he may never have as good a car as he's had this year. He really should have already had the WDC sewn up.

Yep and in my opinion he's really only got himself to blame.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 8):

But he may never have as good a car as he's had this year

They should have a good car next year. There are no significant rule changes and the only thing they really have to deal with is the change to Pirelli tyres and re-integration of KERS into the chassis and the introduction of movable rear wings.


User currently offlinecodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3542 times:

Just a thought here, if Vettel wins, than all the silly things he's done this year will prove he and the team did the right thing (ie. the crashes, lack of overtaking, RBR not willing to support Webber more). Horner, Mateschitz and his right hand guy will all be praising him. Not good.

apart from that...
Heidfeld in talks with Renault and other teams for a seat next year
Marussia buying into Virgin Racing (Petrov driving there ?)
Lotus going for the classy old black and gold livery in 2011 (this year's was excellent IMHO)

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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3536 times:

Quoting codeshare (Reply 14):
Horner, Mateschitz and his right hand guy will all be praising him. Not good.

And if one of them uses the word 'flawless' in describing his season, I'm going to hunt them down and slap them.


User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 11):

Wishing this would come true... although I very much doubt it will.

Hopefully, Vettel, Alonso and Hamilton exit the race, leaving Webber to win. He deserves it.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 12):
It's pretty simple: If Alonso wins,

It's because of the team orders that occurred. Ferrari should have been excluded from the championship already.


User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12464 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3517 times:
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Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 12):
unlike Ferrari where there's no help from Massa

*cough* Germany *cough* Alonso's already had his help from Massa.   

Quoting cpd (Reply 16):
leaving Webber to win. He deserves it.

I'd be quite happy to see Webber win the WDC, but in all honesty, I'm not sure any driver 'deserves' the title any more than the others this year. All the contenders have made bad mistakes and had periods of poor form. That, combined with the new points system, has left us in the great position of starting the last race with no less than 4 possible champions.



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3498 times:

Quoting cpd (Reply 16):
It's because of the team orders that occurred. Ferrari should have been excluded from the championship already

still whinign about that? It's a TEAM and the TEAM comes before the drivers. In fact, if Alonso would lose because Massa would not have followed the orders, I would be quite upset. Vettel today kind of mentioned thta if he needed to he'll do the same, so enough already.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 17):
*cough* Germany *cough* Alonso's already had his help from Massa

and since then, Massa has bee driving than a downtown Buenos Aires cab driver when the team most needs his help. If only he could have a good quali and start in front of Webber in order to slow him down ...



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

I'm putting 90% of my eggs in the Webber basket...I really hope he wins it.
the other 10% goes to Hamilton....

Normally it would be the other way around (which is how I would prefer it) but Hamilton's got almost no chance to win at this point.

If Alonso ends up winning...I hope for his sake its by more than 7 points...otherwise I believe his title is tainted.

Should be an interesting race...

I'm hoping things get really interesting - Alonso's engine blows up.


User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3478 times:
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Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 18):
It's a TEAM and the TEAM comes before the drivers. In fact, if Alonso would lose because Massa would not have followed the orders, I would be quite upset

I would then argue that had Alonso beaten Massa fairly in Germany, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The way I look at it is that the driver's championship is to be fought out between the drivers without interference from the team. Sure, the team comes first, but if you lost the title because you came second to your teammate, then you really should've tried harder to outrace your teammate and pass him on the track.

Same goes for Vettel/Webber. Had Webber outqualified and outraced Vettel in the Brazilian GP, he would only be one point behind Alonso instead of 8. The way I see it, if he loses this title he's got no one to blame but himself. While both drivers are in with a mathematical chance of winning the title, neither should be asked to yield in favour of the other.

However, in a situation like what Vettel will likely face in Abu Dhabi, where he either lets Webber win and keep Alonso third or lower, or else let Alonso win the title and go and win the race for himself, I think he'd choose the former. Where it is mathematically impossible for one driver to win (if Alonso is running fourth or higher, Vettel won't win the title), then - and only then - would it be proper to yield to the driver who can win the title.

However, I can see the conspiracy theorists flaming Vettel should he make an error and crash out of the race from second position, leaving Alonso to finish second and claim the title. Should that happen the conspiracy theorists would probably suggest that it was a deliberate error to stop Webber from winning the championship.

[Edited 2010-11-12 00:15:45]


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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3470 times:

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 18):
It's a TEAM and the TEAM comes before the drivers

Is it? Then Ferrari should bench Massa and replace him with someone in form. That's what you'd do in football to keep your team on top. It's as much a team sport as it is an individual sport. Ferrari are really where they are because of Alonso. RBR and McLaren are where they are because of individual performances by their drivers.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

Alonso's engine will not go. Remember he won Monza, a really difficult race, maybe the most difficult one of all.

Now will Vettel let Webber pass him during the last lap so to allow him to win the title? This is not a way to win a title... It would be "stolen"... cheating...

I am watching qualifyings... this beautiful weather.. I have a friend there at the race with his VVVIP boss and the mega-yacht... lucky him with paddock club passes and all... too busy to even send pictures... well... I will have to content myself watching the show on a screen.

The track is still wet, they are waiting for it to dry, no one is out. Oh Jenson is out now on intermediate tyres... That tunnel...



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3452 times:

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 20):
then you really should've tried harder to outrace your teammate and pass him on the track.

which he did in 99.9% of the races. In that case Alonso was faster and Ferrari risked to lose everything had Massa not let Alonso through.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 21):
Is it? Then Ferrari should bench Massa and replace him with someone in form. That's what you'd do in football to keep your team on top

The only reason why Ferrari hasn't fired Massa is because of the accident he had last year. I assume Ferrari still has hopes that the real Massa will come back eventually (and so do I). Yes, the real Massa was no huge deal, but he would be an excellent teammate; clearly a #2 driver (as in Rubens for Schumi) with enogh talent to fight the other teams.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

ABA Tee Shirts seem to be going strong around Abu Dhabi -- Anyone But Alonso.
This is very strange down in Ferrari land....

Rumors are that Massa will leave Ferrari????

P1
1 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
2 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
3 Great Britain J Button McLaren
4 Australia M Webber Red Bull
5 Poland R Kubica Renault
6 Spain F Alonso Ferrari
7 Germany M Schumacher Mercedes
8 Japan K Kobayashi BMW Sauber
9 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes
10 Germany N Heidfeld BMW Sauber
11 Brazil F Massa Ferrari
12 Russia V Petrov Renault
13 Brazil R Barrichello Williams
14 Germany A Sutil Force India
15 Italy V Liuzzi Force India
16 Spain J Alguersuari Toro Rosso
17 Germany N Hulkenberg Williams
18 Switzerland S Buemi Toro Rosso
19 Germany T Glock Virgin
20 Italy J Trulli Lotus
21 Brazil L di Grassi Virgin
22 Brazil B Senna Hispania
23 Austria C Klien Hispania
24 Malaysia F Fauzy Lotus

This is for the first practice session.
I hope Fernando Alonso will get his act together.

My Tee Shirt would be ABRB
(Anyone But Red Bull)

Go Hammy!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to see him win this last race!!!!!

           



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25 scbriml : Something of an exageration, no? Massa finished ahead of Alonso in Australia, Monaco and Turkey and was ordered to let Alonso through in Germany. He
26 Post contains images MadameConcorde : P2 1 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren @ 1'40''888 2 Germany S Vettel Red Bull 3 Spain F Alonso Ferrari 4 Australia M Webber Red Bull 5 Poland R Kubica
27 Post contains images EZEIZA : ys, it was an exaggeration but the second half of the season has been particuarly positive for Alonso and negative for Massa. Sometimes due to bad lu
28 scbriml : I wonder how worried RBR are about Hamilton? IF he were to take pole (he did last year) and then win the race, he'll make it very difficult for either
29 bill142 : Well there's no love lost between Hamilton and Alonso, so maybe he will be willing to move over and let the RBR guys through?
30 EZEIZA : there used to be no love, but a few weeks ago LH was very friendly towards FA and said he would have no problem in being his team mate again, saying
31 sudden : I want to see the source of that rumour, please. This morning they washed the track with some sort of soap to get rid of the dust, which saw the team
32 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Cannot see it. It was the BBC commentators during the second practice session. Among them was Anthony Davidson and Karun Chandhok plus the regular BB
33 scbriml : I can't see that happening, given Hamilton's only chance to win the WDC is to win the race, so he has as much incentive to win the race as Webber and
34 Post contains images sudden : Not if he's leading with both RBR's behind him. To be honest though, I don't there will be a case of Hamilton "letting" the RBR's pass him as in that
35 Post contains images MadameConcorde : P3 with times 1 S Vettel (GER) Red Bull 1'40.696 2 M Webber (AUS) Red Bull 1'40.829 3 LC Hamilton (GBR) McLaren 1'41.280 4 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 1'41
36 scbriml : He still needs to win. There'd always be a chance that Webber & Vettel will fall over each other on the last corner. It's a very long shot, but h
37 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Q2 Position Country Driver Team 1 Germany S Vettel Red Bull 2 Great Britain J Button McLaren 3 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes 4 Australia M Webber Red Bul
38 Post contains images bill142 : It's all bad news for Webber
39 MadameConcorde : I am not going to complain about this last qualifying!!! Vettel made Pole but.... hmmmm... Webber?????? Noooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Germany S Vettel Red
40 Post contains images CXB77L : Pole isn't exactly great news for Vettel either. He needs to do what he can to win the race, but if Alonso stays third, he wins the title. If anything
41 sudden : Interesting thing is that if Massa (on the clean side) can overtake Webber (on the dirty side), he can sort of control Webber's pace a little. Not by
42 MadameConcorde : He is certainly the King of Poles for this 2010 season. Now we must wait until tomorrow. The game isn't over yet! FORZA MCLAREN FORZA FERRARI ANYTHIN
43 GrahamHill : Congrats to Vettel for his 10th pole! On the other hand, Webber compromised his chances with only 5th position. It will be tough for him to win the WD
44 Post contains images photopilot : Anybody love conspiracies? Massa starts beside Webber. Does he take him OUT at the first corner? Or maybe just a little "bump" to slice a tire down? O
45 bill142 : I think Webber might be better placed on getting the voodoo dolls out and pushing pins into Alonso engine.
46 codeshare : I have mixed feeling about the qualifying. Seems that Webber will have it the hardest. Knowing that Webbo doesn't always get a good start Massa should
47 sudden : Care to elaborate cause not long ago you found that Kamui would do great in a RBR car!?
48 Post contains links bill142 : Maybe that's the reason. Because Kobayshi isn't in am RBR next season. A note on the actual proceedings; Hamilton has avoided a penalty on his near m
49 scbriml : Hardly surprising as Ferrari will be delighted if Hamilton takes points away from Webber.
50 EZEIZA : I doubt Alonso will risk anything. He'll do what he can to stay third and if there is chance he'll try, but he does not need to risk anything at all.
51 Post contains images sudden : Hamilton should be banned for at least 1 season for killing that innocent camera that just did it's job!
52 Post contains images bill142 : Oh I totally agree. He should be imprisoned by the AUH authorities. Two run ins with the law in one year. Not good Mr Hamilton, not good.
53 scbriml : Exactly right. He doesn't need to risk anything. Start 3rd and finsh 3rd will do him just fine. However, given what this season has served up for us
54 Post contains images EZEIZA : anything can happen really. Alonso could blow up his engine for example, and then everything changes. Or LH and Vettel take eachother out fighiting f
55 LTU932 : So what about the time when team rivalries made F1 so exiting (I'm talking about e.g. Prost vs Senna at McLaren)? This is one of the reasons why I ha
56 Post contains images EZEIZA : If he wins it's because he earned it, racing against a far superior team like the RBR's and making the least mistakes. Alonso was the only one who be
57 Post contains images sudden : Lets not open that can of worms again guys.
58 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I also quoted McLaren and other faster cars than the one he's been using this season, despite all the respect I have for Peter Sauber, they don't hav
59 GrahamHill : No, it was not. Actually, it all started when they were both in McLaren. It continued a bit later, when Prost went to Ferrari, but the peak of their
60 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber have been given the blessing of Bernie Ecclestone to use team orders to defeat Fernando Alonso in the title showdown
61 Post contains images EZEIZA : fair enough. I was a kid back then and don't remember too much, but I do have more fresh when Prost was in Ferrari. Still, I am all for team orders,
62 MadameConcorde : Man... the King of Spain is on the grid with Alonso!!!! LIke for the Football World Cup this is turning into a national issue for Spain!!![Edited 2010
63 B747forever : Have not been posting on the F1 threads during the last few events, but have always been reading them. Anyway, I am really excited about this race. Ca
64 MadameConcorde : Safety car!!! ooooh!!! bad accident!!!! Was it Schumi or Liuzzi who messed up?
65 bill142 : Neither. It was unavoidable.
66 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Schumi could have had his head chopped off. He looks allright. He is a lucky man!!!! What a horrible accident!!!! Ok safety car out. Race is going aga
67 MIAspotter : God-damn Renaults... Alonso could not get past them. I guess congratulations to Vettel for the Championship MIAspotter
68 Post contains images B747forever : 2 laps remaining. Vettel will win the WDC 2010. So sad that Alonso lost
69 sudden : Big CONGRATS to Vettel. Drove brilliantly today when it really really really counted! Well done! Alonso stuck behind Petrov who drove very well today.
70 Post contains images CPH-R : Well played to the Ferrari strategy teams for losing the title. Given the location, I wonder how many of them took a break to call up some of the resi
71 MadameConcorde : Congrats to Sebastian Vettel for his World Champion 2010 Title!!! Very much deserved for this young enthusiastic and energetic driver!!!! Congrats to
72 Post contains images EZEIZA : Congrats to Vettel. He did what he had to do ... superb. Alonso, disapointing, and Webber even worse. Ferrari screwed up the strategy by calling ALons
73 Post contains images bill142 : Well that's it. The season is over. Congratulations to Vettel and Red Bull. And that result caps off a terrible weekend for Australian sport.
74 B747forever : Amazing. Congratulations to Vettel. Everyone thought that Webber was the number one driver in RBR, but Vettel never gave up. Well done.
75 MIAspotter : True, they where just too focused on Webber and staying ahead of him, whic at the end backfired. Congratulations to Vettel, well deserved title, drov
76 MadameConcorde : And don't forget Renault... French engineering at its best. There would be no Red Bull win without these Renault engines!!!!
77 BlueElephant : I'm not a fan of Vettel but I have to admit the kid has come good at the end of the season. We spent most of it hating on him for being immature (I st
78 MIAspotter : And Petrov on the way of Alonso... he was not too happy with him at the end. understandable, but he also had a race to complete (and a seat to keep)
79 Post contains images codeshare : contratulations to Seb. Ferrari lost it by themselves bad pit tactics, and the inablility to pass Petrov + SC in the first laps and there you have it
80 Post contains images MadameConcorde : A beautiful trio of Formula 1 World Champions on the Podium! A beautiful last image for this most exciting 2010 season!!! Thanks to all who have made
81 CPH-R : It's hard to blame Alonso for boiling over. He spent nearly the majority of the race trying to to overtake Petrov, and his inability to do so pretty
82 bill142 : Alonsos frustration is understandable, but Petrov had a race to run, and at the end of it all has played a massive role in the outcome of the champio
83 MadameConcorde : Petrov and Alguesuari did a fantastic race!!!
84 MIAspotter : Exactly, Ferrari should have concentrated on their own race instead of Webber's, if he pitted earlier, then so be it, you push hard and get a cushion
85 MadameConcorde : Schumi had bad luck for this last race but he also had good luck considering that a few inches more of the Force India on his head and he could be dea
86 Post contains images MadameConcorde : He was happy in Monaco. He is now much less happy in Abu Dhabi...
87 Post contains images racko : Incredible that Ferrari messed up so badly. They must have totally forgotten about the Renaults and Rosberg. Anyway, Hesse is world champion!!!!
88 MIAspotter : Hmm... the guy from Spanish TV said that they tried to get closer to the RBR party, and one of the engineers came and told them to go to the Ferrari G
89 sudden : It's adrenaline/heat of the moment and so forth. During the interview Alonso, without actually saying the words, was apologising to Petrov. Thank you
90 scbriml : Congrats to Vettel, cool under the pressure. Shocked at Alonso's lack of performance. Could they not turn up his engine to allow him to pass Petrov? P
91 CPH-R : It wasn't for a lack of trying though, and the Abu Dhabi circuit doesn't have too many straight narrows where raw engine power would have done the tr
92 Post contains images legoguy : Wow, what a race, who ever would have thought Vettel would claim it. Alonso and Webber were nobodys during the race! Remaining out on the softs was th
93 sudden : It was not lack of performance from Alonso/Ferrari cause both Renault cars were able to hold off Ferrari and Hamilton/Mclaren. They were running at g
94 codeshare : Yes, but still the problem of overtaking stays, nevermind the tracks, Abu Dhabi had a few places, Kubica is the proof. Maybe next year KERS will help
95 scbriml : Isn't that his job?
96 legoguy : I couldn't help but smile when I saw this; Ferrari: "Petrov, Alonso is faster than you, Can you confirm that you understood that message?'' Petr
97 aerobalance : Hard to say - this means Alonso would have had to pit during the safety car also, would you have made that gamble at that time at lap 2? If the Schum
98 Post contains images PanHAM : looking at the picture and the arm of the person in the white shirt I wonder what makes him happy.... absolutely, no obligation to let others pass wh
99 Post contains images CXB77L : Yes, but in the Davis Cup, the team wins the title, not the individual. In F1, when you're talking about the driver's championship, it is an individu
100 photopilot : I'd be interested in knowing what gear ratios the Renault and the Ferrari were running in 7th gear. Alonso couldn't seem to close or gain on the stra
101 MIAspotter : Marc Gene (Test Driver at Ferrari) is always a gust commentator on Spanish TV, he said that Ferrari opted to run a high downforce configuration for t
102 B747forever : Isnt Vettel the youngest WDC winner ever in F1?
103 Sabena332 : He is! As I wrote in my reply above, I am not a big F1 fan anymore but I am glad that Vettel made it. Hats off! Patrick
104 scbriml : Yes, he's about 7 months younger than Hamilton was when he won in 2008.
105 EZEIZA : it wasn't his inability, it was that the Renault was not inferior to the Ferrari. There was nothing Alonso could have done. Agreed. Ferrari screwed u
106 cpd : Poor strategy from both Ferrari and Redbull - though it is easy in hindsight to say that. The idea was good, but getting boxed in behind Algersuari a
107 scbriml : But it wasn't just Petrov, they ended up behind Kubica and Rosberg as well. Even if Alonso had managed to 'frighten' Petrov out of the way, he'd have
108 Post contains images EZEIZA : in Ferrari's case it was for both cars, in RBR's case it was only for Webber. They almost screwed up too but they were smart enough to see that the s
109 cpd : my wish for next year is Abu Dhabi race at a conventional time of the day, so that the viewing for here is at more reasonable hours (rather than midni
110 cpd : What also amazed me was the super-yacht parked beside the track. If I'm not mistaken, it was "Al Mirqab", the super-yacht of Sheik Hamad bin Khalifa A
111 CXB77L : Actually, for me, as a Williams fan, the team comes first, and that is precisely why I say it doesn't matter which order the drviers finish, so long
112 GolfOscarDelta : I know this sounds silly but does anyone else think Mark was sacrificed by RBR to bait Alonso. Because he didn't seem to do anything at all after his
113 CXB77L : No, I don't think so. What was Webber supposed to do? Webber needed to get ahead of Alonso to have any chance of winning the title, so naturally, Red
114 Post contains images codeshare : Exactly Kimi's title was won by a point, from then on they are just sliding towards the bottom. McLaren stayed at a certain level, and last year we h
115 Post contains images MadameConcorde : If I were the Red Bull team director, I would have invited every driver and team member to the Red Bull party in Abu Dhabi to end the season in style
116 EZEIZA : yes but Ferrari was thinking in the long run, not the just one race. And let's not foret that Massa was being slower and everyone behind was catching
117 codeshare : Yes, some articles suggest that Webber was passive, like if he didn't care at all. But what do we know what was going on inside his head ? KS/codeshar
118 scbriml : I think Webber knew that his chance of the title was over after Q3 - he REALLY needed to be on the front row. With Alonso, Vettel and both McLarens i
119 EZEIZA : Feir enoug, but it also seemed that he didn't care about helping his teammate. Now we know that Alonso got stuck behind Petrov for 35 laps, but at th
120 PanHAM : Webber and Vettel are not the best of friends. Safe to say that Webber could not care less about Vettels chances to win or lose the race.
121 Post contains images GrahamHill : The "Taxis" still powered the World Champion team. And Alonso not being able to overtake any of the Taxis make him what? a Rickshaw driver? Indeed. T
122 Post contains links and images legoguy : Good to see the banter between the new smaller teams, as Lotus finished ahead of Virgin Racing in the standings, Richard Branson lost a bet and has to
123 bill142 : I think you're right. There was something missing with Webber. I don't know if qualifying just defeated him or the situation just got the better of h
124 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : This is F1 related... Want to fly with Stewardess Richard Branson? http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20101115...e-as-stewardess-after-7f81b96.html I hope th
125 Post contains images sudden : Got to hand it to you for that one!
126 BlueFlyer : What I do wonder is, if next year the two drivers find them in different situations, whether Red Bull will remember the fair and impartial way they tr
127 Post contains links sudden : Folks, I opened up the off season thread, F1 2010-2011 Off Season (by sudden Nov 15 2010 in Non Aviation)
128 Post contains links CXB77L : I disagree. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88135 Do we really need him to spell it out? It is a foregone conclusion that if the team can
129 BlueFlyer : Vettel is a smart guy. All he did, repeatedly, was to give himself wiggle room just in case "the situation" occurred on Sunday and he didn't cede the
130 scbriml : No, but it's easy to say you'll do something when, inside, you don't believe you'll need to do it. From the same article: After Q3 it would have been
131 Post contains links cpd : Roberto Calderoli has demanded the dismissal of Ferrari boss: http://www.caradvice.com.au/91520/fe...nso-chairman-toyota-ends-hrt-deal/ Had to like Lu
132 GrahamHill : Some of the times from test drivers yesterday: Pos Driver Car Time 1. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1m39.616s 2. Oliver Turvey McLaren 1m40.725s 3. Antoni
133 GrahamHill : Final testing day for the new drivers. Here are the times: 1. Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull) 1'38"102 (77 laps) 2. Jerome D'Ambrosio (Renault) 1'38"802 (
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