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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9779 times:

Thought we might as well get this one going.

It sure has been an interesting, thrilling, nerv wracking, scary etc. etc. season.
Never since I started to watch F1 have I been so left out in the dark in regards to who would take the title. I say well played for current point system.

Yesterday we saw 3 WDC holders on the podium and in the press conference. And I think Vettel deserved to be there. He's been very mature in the later part of the season. Not to start any discussion about who deserved the title, cause fact is, whoever of the remaining 4 that would have taken it deserved it.

Next season we wont see F-duct anymore as it's been banned. Instead comes the movable rear wing to increase speed on the straights. What I wonder with this is if you really should mess around with the rear wing. If it fails at a speed of +/- 300 km/h (190 mph) the driver will simply be a passenger.

We will see KERS back again. I'm not a fan of this gadget to be honest. Many teams seemed to not like it all too much last year. And the only team who really got it to work was Mclaren if my memory serves me correct.

If the safety car has been deployed and comes in on the last lap, all the cars need to finish in that order. No overtaking allowed. What is the logical thinking behind this, if any!?

And lets not forget that Pirelli is the new tire supplier from next season.

Overall a great season behind us with lots of action. So to keep us F1 geeks from not turning in to mental cases, please post opinions, news, developments etc. in here.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden

(edit: typo)

[Edited 2010-11-15 10:40:50]


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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9768 times:

No Hulk at Williams in 2010. Didn't like the idea of signing up to them and having to spend a year in a HRT

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88301

And apparently Toyota had an agreement with HRT for them to use the car they designed for 2010 to base their 2011 car on. But HRT didn't pay up so Toyota pulled the pin.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88313

Quoting sudden (Thread starter):
We will see KERS back again. I'm not a fan of this gadget to be honest. Many teams seemed to not like it all too much last year. And the only team who really got it to work was Mclaren if my memory serves me correct.

And Ferrari. I believe Mercedes are supplying all their teams with the McLaren system and from what I've gathered all the Renault powered teams will get the Renault system. From what I understand it's still not going to be mandatory for next season. I assume the Ferrari teams will get the Ferrari system and I believe HRT at least will be using the Williams system. I guess there's some FOTA infulence in ensuring smaller teams can buy a KERS system rather than having to develop one which hamstrung it in the past


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9757 times:

Quoting sudden (Thread starter):
Not to start any discussion about who deserved the title, cause fact is, whoever of the remaining 4 that would have taken it deserved it.

Alonso, had he won it, would have deserved it by having an inferior car and becuse he never stopped believing he could make it. And he was very close. But Vettel also deserved it. Despite a few mistakes during the season, he was overall the best car/driver formula. Had he not made some mistakes, he would have won the title a couple of races ago, so yes, I think it is well deserved, and once he gets more experience in handling different situations, we have in our hands a true talent. I wouldn't ,mind seeing him driving for Ferrari some day!

But most of all, this season has been amazing in every way. We had expected it to be this way, having so many WDC's on the grid, and they delivered.

btw; interestingly enough (and if I'm not mistaken), it's the first time in the entire season that Vettel is first in the WDC standings! Until yesterday, we had Alonso, Massa (!), LH, Webber and I'm not sure but I think even Button at one point, but Vettel never (by himself).



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9754 times:

Quoting sudden (Thread starter):
Thought we might as well get this one going.

Thank you for opening the thread.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 1):
No Hulk at Williams in 2010.

They certainly could not fire Rubens considering all the experience he has.

Money is the winner. It is probably that Pastor Maldonado will get the Hulk's seat... meh....

I hope Hulkenberg will be hired by another team. He certainly has talent.



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9750 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
They certainly could not fire Rubens considering all the experience he has.

Actually Hulkenberg didn't get fired. He declined to be degraded to some low life team at the back of the grid. I think he made a smart move cause he's way too talented to let a good F1 future fade away while he's being stuck at the back of the grid. He deserves better and he knows it.

EZEIZA,
Your correct. it is the first time this season that Vettel is actually leading the WDC.



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User currently offlinecodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9751 times:

The cars should be kept simple, no gadgets like double-deck diffuser, movable wings, KERS, active suspension or stuff like that. It should be about driving, but still it is a technology race and bending the rules.

Are we going to see much change in the looks of the cars? Not much I think. There was a dramatic change comparing 2008 and 2009.

Major changes:
107% rule in qualifying returns.
Minimum weight goes up to 640 kg
Rear-wing movable front-wing not.
No double diffuser.
No F-duct.
KERS back.
Pirelli tyres.

KS/codeshare



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2869 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9748 times:

Quoting sudden (Thread starter):
And lets not forget that Pirelli is the new tire supplier from next season.

Actually the teams stay in Abu Dhabi this week to test those new tyres.

Also, plenty of young or new drivers will be doing some tests with the teams this week. Here is the full list:


Red Bull:
Daniel Ricciardo, 21 (AUS) : Red Bull test driver, 2009 British F3 champion.

McLaren:
Gary Paffett, 29 (GB) : McLaren test driver, 2005 DTM champion.
Oliver Turvey, 23 (GB) : 2nd of the 2008 British F3 championship, 6th of the 2010 GP2 championship.

Ferrari:
Jules Bianchi, 21 (FRA) : 2011 Ferrari test driver, 2009 F3 EuroSeries champion, 3rd of the 2010 GP2 championship.

Mercedes GP:
Sam Bird, 23 (GB) : 5th of the 2010 GP2 championship.

Renault:
Jerome D'Ambrosio, 24 (BEL) : Virgin test driver at then of 2010, 12th of the 2010 GP2 championship.
Mikhail Aleshin, 23 (RUS) : 2010 World Series by Renault champion.

Williams:
Pastor Maldonado, 25 (VEN) : 2010 GP2 champion.
Dean Stoneman, 20 (GB) : 2010 F2 champion.

Force India:
Yelmer Buurman, 23 (HOL) : 4th of the 2006 British F3 championship.
Antonio Felix da Costa, 19 (POR) : 2009 Formula Renault 2.0 champion .
Paul di Resta, 24 (GB) : Force India test driver, 2006 F3 EuroSeries champion.

BMW Sauber:
Esteban Gutierrez, 19 (MEX) : 2010 GP3 champion.
Sergio Perez, 20 (MEX) : 2011 Sauber driver, 2nd of the 2010 GP2 championship.

Toro Rosso:
Jean-Eric Vergne, 20 (FRA) : 2010 British F3 champion.

Lotus:
Vladimir Arabadzhiev, 26 (BUL) : 2008 Formula Master Italia champion.
Rodolfo Gonzalez, 24 (VEN) : 2006 British F3 champion.

Virgin:
Jerome D'Ambrosio, 24 (BEL) : Virgin test driver at then of 2010, 12th of the 2010 GP2 championship.
Luiz Razia, 20 (BRA) : Virgin test driver, 2006 South American F3 champion.
Rio Haryanto, 17 (IDN) : 2009 Pacific Formula BMW champion.

HRT:
Pastor Maldonado, 25 (VEN) : 2010 GP2 champion.
Josef Kral, 20 (CZ) : 2nd of the 2007 Formula BMW series.
Davide Valsecchi, 23 (ITA) : 2010 GP2 Asia champion, 8th of the 2010 GP2 championship.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9747 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 4):
Actually Hulkenberg didn't get fired. He declined to be degraded to some low life team at the back of the grid.

The right decision as far as I can see

From Nico Rosberg's Twitter

"checked in dubai.receptionist was shocked when she saw passport.some1stuck britney in my passport."

http://plixi.com/p/57112914

huhhh!!!!    



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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9744 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
They certainly could not fire Rubens considering all the experience he has.

Why not? They fired Damon Hill in 1996 after he won the championship for them.


User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2821 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9736 times:

Great season and Driver's Championship. Hopefully after such an exciting championship right down to the final race, old Bernie will finally put his "Medals" concept of Driver's scoring out to lunch. Proved this year that it wasn't needed at all. This points spread between places seemed to work quite well and kept the championship close.

As to Kers, Moveable Wings, etc, frankly I think it is just getting too complex for the driver who is still too much a passenger to the technology. Moveable rear wings is just another more complex system of the F-duct. Changing the drag of the rear wing by moving it. I read a report that said that with Kers, plus the rear wing adjustment, it's the equivalent of giving the drivers 160 more horsepower on the straights. Personally, I'd like to see a system of some type, similar to the Indy Car Series "Push-to-Pass" where each driver is given a fixed and limited amount of usage per race. Then it becomes a strategic tool. But to do this, the fans have to know how much each driver is using and how much remains.

Looking forward to 2011 season.


User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17142 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9718 times:

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 2):
I wouldn't ,mind seeing him driving for Ferrari some day!



And that is what I am waiting for. I would love to see him drive for Ferrari. For how long does Vettel's contract with RBR run?

What I also would love to see is a return of Kimi with Ferrari, but that wont probably happen, just me dreaming!



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9712 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
"checked in dubai.receptionist was shocked when she saw passport.some1stuck britney in my passport."

http://plixi.com/p/57112914

huhhh!!!!

The on going joke among drivers is that Nico Rosberg is known as Brittney (as in B. Spears) because of his long blonde hair.


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9701 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 10):
What I also would love to see is a return of Kimi with Ferrari, but that wont probably happen, just me dreaming!

As much as he was very talented, and he did win the WDC for Ferrari, I prefer someone that looks a little happy at least when he wins a race. Kimi was just too depressing!

Quoting codeshare (Reply 5):
Major changes:
107% rule in qualifying returns.

what's the point?



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User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1626 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9693 times:

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 12):
what's the point?

To make sure Virgin, HRT & Lotus don't just parade around the back, I'd imagine. Give them a reason to push the development so that they can actually qualify decently.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9678 times:

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 13):
Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 12):
what's the point?

To make sure Virgin, HRT & Lotus don't just parade around the back, I'd imagine. Give them a reason to push the development so that they can actually qualify decently.

And they've frequently been outside 107%. So unless they find some pace over the summer then we could be looking at some pretty bare grids next season.


User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4173 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9669 times:
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Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 13):
Give them a reason to push the development so that they can actually qualify decently.

How about we give them a chance? They are years behind the current teams. Rules should be amended to give teams at the back extra testing, especially new entrants.



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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9663 times:

I'm sure there will be some high profile sackings at Ferrari....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/nov/15/ferrari-formulaone



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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9644 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
They certainly could not fire Rubens considering all the experience he has.

But, on the contrary, he isn't winning anything. I know Williams aren't exactly the first rate team they used to be in the 70s/80s, but he isn't doing brilliantly, only OK. I think for the majority of his career he has been a great driver in a crap car (barring Ferrari where he was a good driver with a good car who had to play second fiddle), but he had a WDC winning car last year (Button won it in an identical car) and he placed 3rd, 18 points behind Button. He's the 2nd oldest driver now too, and that is working against him.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):

I hope Hulkenberg will be hired by another team. He certainly has talent.

Indeed. I think in the right car, he'd be a very good driver.


User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1626 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9641 times:

Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 15):

How about we give them a chance? They are years behind the current teams. Rules should be amended to give teams at the back extra testing, especially new entrants.

They've had a year. Its not all of the new comers were all the same speed. It was painfully obvious that the HRT's were slower than the Lotus cars. Really, the 107% rule is only going to hurt 2 teams, HRT & Virgin. Lotus with the Renault engines should be easily within the 107%. Even HRT might be ok with the Williams partnership, depending on what their car ends up being. Virgin stands to probably be the big loser.

Do the new teams deserve extra testing? Probably. Should they get to just parade around at the back of the race, using the race as a test? No.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9627 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 4):
Actually Hulkenberg didn't get fired. He declined to be degraded to some low life team at the back of the grid. I think he made a smart move cause he's way too talented to let a good F1 future fade away while he's being stuck at the back of the grid. He deserves better and he knows it.

Hülkenberg is leaving because he isn't a big moneymaker for Williams. Frankie needs sponsors, and with hiring Pastor Maldonado, he'll likely gain a major sponsor with PDVSA (thus gets indirectly sponsored by Hugo Chávez).

Quoting codeshare (Reply 5):
107% rule in qualifying returns.

I feel that they should also drop the three-round qualifying system and re-introduce the single 60 minute session along with 107%. At least 107% will weed out the bad seeds and maybe force those in the rear of the grid to turn things up instead of doing their laps.


User currently offlineGolfOscarDelta From India, joined Feb 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9620 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
"checked in dubai.receptionist was shocked when she saw passport.some1stuck britney in my passport."
Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 11):
The on going joke among drivers is that Nico Rosberg is known as Brittney (as in B. Spears) because of his long blonde hair.

Well he was also voted the "Most beautiful woman in F1"

Quote:
In the poll “most beautiful woman” in the F1 paddock, everybody agreed that French reporter Marion Jolles would have to take the No 1 spot. However, there was one interesting vote given to... Mercedes GP's driver Nico Rosberg, whom his former mechanics at Williams code-name “Britney” (Spears).
Source


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days ago) and read 9584 times:

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 13):
To make sure Virgin, HRT & Lotus don't just parade around the back, I'd imagine. Give them a reason to push the development so that they can actually qualify decently.

yes, but at the same time without the rule they can have their drivers gain racing expereince. With ot without the rule they will end up last every race anyway



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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2693 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 9566 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
Money is the winner. It is probably that Pastor Maldonado will get the Hulk's seat... meh....

I hope Hulkenberg will be hired by another team. He certainly has talent

As a Williams fan I am very disappointed by their decision to let Hulkenberg go. Hulkenberg has a lot of talent, and I do hope he gets hired by another team. It would be a shame if he is lost to F1.

I never thought that Williams would stoop so low as to get rid of someone who is clearly an emerging talent and sign a no-name pay driver. I don't think this is the way for Williams to move forward. Sir Frank managed to run a team from a phone box while bankrupt. If that's what it takes to rebuild this team then let's do it.

Maldonado may be GP2 champion this year, but one quote from the Wiki site stands out:

Quote:
Maldonado was often overshadowed by team-mate Nico Hülkenberg,

Williams are replacing a young, talented Hulkenberg with someone older who was quite soundly beaten by Hulkenberg when they were teammates. Ergo, they are replacing Hulkenberg with someone less talented.



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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9543 times:

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
As a Williams fan I am very disappointed by their decision to let Hulkenberg go. Hulkenberg has a lot of talent, and I do hope he gets hired by another team. It would be a shame if he is lost to F1.

If you read the Autosport article it says that Williams made Hulkenberg a multi year offer which would have meant spending 2011 at HRT. However Hulkenberg chose to leave Williams. So it's incorrect to say that Williams let him go.

An it should also be noted that Maldonado has not been confirmed at Williams yet, and I believe is also testing for HRT this week, even though it is likely he will go there (who would choose HRT over Williams if given the choice?)


User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9518 times:

Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 15):
How about we give them a chance?

I can agree with that. Success in this sport doesn't come within 1, 2, or even 3 years.

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 16):
I'm sure there will be some high profile sackings at Ferrari....

Interesting point is that it doesn't matter how good Alonso is at setting up and drive the car if the team is not able to help him out from the pit wall with the strategy. In my mind this tactical mistake is a very poor one coming from a team like Ferrari. Even though I might not like Montezemolo that much, it would not make things all that much betterblaming it on to fire him.
But of course, lets start kick people as we need to blame it on someone.  
How about blaming it on Ferrari as a team and brand!? Oh no, we can't have that as someone might even talk bad about Ferrari. geee........



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25 bill142 : And Italian politics is a pillar of integrity. I don't think anyone will be listening to this whack job.
26 cornish : If Mercedes have any sense they'll snap up Hulkenberg in an instant to be its reserve driver for 2011, able to slot into Schumacher's seat when he rea
27 MadameConcorde : A great idea there and very beneficial for both the team and Nico Hulkenberg if it happens. I would like to see Schumi staying for the 2011 season bu
28 Post contains images GrahamHill : I just realised I posted the below in the wrong F1 thread The testing days for new drivers are over. Here are the times of the last day: 1. Daniel Ric
29 Post contains images sudden : This deserves one of those "Thanks for sharing" moments (I still haven't given up on the lifetime ban of you) Hulkenberg has been linked to Ferrari a
30 Post contains images GrahamHill : You're actually responsible for opening an off-season thread so early after the last GP. I'll blame my mistake on you
31 Post contains links and images codeshare : According to what Jean Todt is saying on autosport they will be looking at new tracks if they allow overtaking: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.p
32 Post contains images GrahamHill : I don't think tracks are the real problem for overtaking, but the cars themselves. Formula 1 cars have too much downforce. And maybe too much electro
33 BlueElephant : You know, I was watching a TV show that had a clip about Tilke Engineering...and how he designs a track. three things lept out at me when watching th
34 CXB77L : I hope Williams are having second thoughts about getting Maldonado. Based upon these times, it seems that Ricciardo is hot property. I can't explain
35 cornish : It took him four or five seasons to become GP2 champion, Hulkenberg did it in one - as Maldonado's team mate no less. I'd much rather they'd kept Nic
36 CXB77L : If I was Rubens, I'd offer to drive for free. He's been around long enough and earnt enough money. Might as well save Williams several million pounds
37 EZEIZA : wow, that is FAST! Are these tests done mainly for testing the Pirelli's?
38 GrahamHill : Nope, they were still with Bridgestone tyres. Today was the first day with the Pirelli tyres for everybody (all teams are still in Abu Dhabi). Here a
39 B747forever : I dont see what Schumi has to bring to F1 and what F1 can bring to him? He clearly failed this season, well below everyone's expectations and even hi
40 MadameConcorde : He is Schumi a 7 times Formula 1 champion, something that has yet to be equalled and I think it will take a while for others to equal or surpass this
41 EZEIZA : a little too late there Felipe ....
42 Post contains images B747forever : Not to diminish his record or anything like that (hey, I mean I love him, didnt he drive for Ferrari? ) but that is the past, and that cant make him
43 Post contains images sudden : I really need to feel ashamed. But am simply not able to. Wonder why! So when you reach for ex. the age of 55 you would say to your employer that you
44 Post contains images swissy : Schumi did well... considering he was not in a car for so long, also remember before he started F1 he was young and came from the Sauber-MB (prototype
45 CXB77L : Fair point. F1 is a business - it's a job to these drivers, and no, I probably wouldn't tell my employer that I'd work for free. But if my job was an
46 Post contains images sudden : It was a friendly remark from my side, so don't take it as I was taking the pi$$ at you. Although, Rubens might have enough $$$ to get around, but se
47 Post contains links and images sudden : Ricciardo Friday test driver for STR during every race in 2011. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88501 Not to say that it's odd, but I can
48 Post contains links bill142 : Well what we already knew has been confirmed. Maldonado will drive for Williams next year. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88547 And Alons
49 Post contains images CXB77L : Maldonado will be a mobile chicane. Williams will have to rely on Barrichello to score the majority of the points next year. I really hope Barrichell
50 Post contains links stealthz : A few interesting TBAs in this list.. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88534 Who Knows? I agree with what Martin Brundle said at one of the
51 bill142 : Williams probably should have diversifed their business long ago, a lot like what McLaren did with all their other companies and the new automotive v
52 Post contains images sudden : As sad as it's true, they are thinking . I think Hulkenberg would have given Rubens a run for his money was he to stay. But yeah, why should he settl
53 codeshare : It's interesting how the 3 'new' teams will perform in 2011 ahving gained some experience this season. I'd like the difference to be smaller in the qu
54 bill142 : It has to be. The 107% rule is back.
55 Post contains images codeshare : So they'll have more time for 'analysis' , if they don't make it to the grid. KS/codeshare
56 sudden : HRT comes to mind as I feel they will be way off still.
57 bill142 : If they miss a lot of races, then how long until A) the rule is dropped or B) they're booted from the championship. You can't have a team that fails
58 Post contains links BlueElephant : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9260822.stm Interesting to hear that Mark Webber drove the last 4 races of the season with a br
59 stealthz : And hardly surprising to hear that I am a big supporter of Webber and more than once have been critical of Horner but on this I am totally in agreeme
60 GrahamHill : Well, fair play to him. Although he said it was not the reason why he lost the title, it is still hard (I guess) to drive at full potential with a br
61 Post contains links and images cornish : Woo hoo ! Black and Gold Racing colours are back ! http://www.crash.net/f1/news/165428/...us_enters_renault_partnership.html Good move by Lotus Renaul
62 Post contains images GrahamHill : Awesome! But... is it pink that I see on the sides and rearview mirrors?
63 sudden : I find it odd that Lotus had to go down this road to be honest. Not only do they need to team up with another team, but also the fact that they team
64 Post contains images codeshare : It's gorgeous. Now that they have cash, maybe Vitaly's money won't be needed ? Does thast leave room for speculation ? And the name - looks like we ca
65 Post contains images GrahamHill : I know this is not really THE thread to talk about it, but I don't care A bit of self gloss for my country as 2010 has been a fantastic year in all as
66 Post contains images bill142 : And yet, despite all that success, the rest of the world will continue to bag French cars
67 EZEIZA : I just read that FIA has officially taken away the rule that forbid team orders. Finally some sense !
68 codeshare : In a way yes. But they added a new rule "In a WMSC statement, it added: "Teams will be reminded any actions liable to bring the sport into disrepute a
69 bill142 : Probably by how much it's blown up in the media. The manner in which it's carried out will probably also be taken into consideration. No one wants to
70 Post contains images sudden : With other words: "Just pay FIA $100,000 and they will look the other way"
71 Post contains images codeshare : Ferrari already know the account no. KS/codeshare
72 Post contains links stealthz : BBC article on the F1COTF... or Head & Byrnes proposal to the F1 Technical Working Group on the layout of F1 cars for 2013 and beyond http://news.
73 GrahamHill : Another attempt at improving overtaking? Let's hope they get it right this time. On a side note, Petrov is confirmed to be Renault driver until 2012.
74 sudden : Although he drove brilliantly in the last race, this shows more then ever that money is the dominant factor in this sport. I personally think Renault
75 Post contains images legoguy : Unfortunately Kimi Raikkonen's father died today, only 56 years old. What a sad Christmas for them
76 Post contains images codeshare : That was quite obvious. It's either Petrov and presence in the Russian market, or bye bye profits in Russia A sensible choice in the end, Vitaly's 20
77 GrahamHill : Very sad indeed. All my thoughts to him and his family. Well you said it: he drove well in the last race, which means he has potential. He needs to b
78 Post contains images sudden : Could not disagree more with you as he did this on the track that is the less demanding one on the entire calendar. If this would have been Spa, Turk
79 A333TS : I can't see Vettel and Alonso racing for the same team at the same time. They both want to be number one drivers, and the situation might be similar
80 CXB77L : I sincerely hope not. Unless Ferrari is looking to have a civil war on their hands. It'll just be like Hamilton and Alonso all over again. I just can
81 sudden : HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL! May 2011 season bring at least just as much, or even more, excitement as 2010 did. Hope all your wishes becomes true.
82 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Thank you! Happy New 2011 to you also! Happy New 2011 to the A.net F1 community! May you all be happy and healthy! I am sure we will be out for anoth
83 Post contains images bill142 : Happy New Year all. Looking forward to 2011 and hope it can be exciting as 2010. Here's to McLaren winning the championships in 2011 P.S I got the sea
84 Post contains links BlueElephant : Happy New Year all http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88822 Karthikeyan confirmed for HRT - Not surprised seeing as there's a new GP in India
85 bill142 : Chandhok wasn't that bad. Karthikeyan got the gig because he's got TATA money and he's been driving for one of Colin Kolles teams.
86 DiamondFlyer : Quite possibly the funniest part about the move to me is the fact that he's going from driving a Nascar Truck to an F1 car. Talk about one end of the
87 Post contains links GrahamHill : Renault to switch to British licence: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88902 So, we lost our national GP, we don't have French drivers and
88 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Maybe they will have the name written in cyrillic script. Isn't there Russian money involved?
89 GrahamHill : They can put whatever they want. I don't consider this entity as French anymore.
90 bill142 : That's because they're not. Renault are merely a sponsor these days as I believe Lotus bought the Renault stake in the team. So if that's the case, t
91 MadameConcorde : I think you have the answer.
92 bill142 : Of course I do. I'm just like uber awesome. P.S is anyone else going to Autosport International in BHX this weekend?
93 Post contains images GrahamHill : I know I know. It's just sad that Renault became what it is now... The anthem thingy was just the last straw. Not me
94 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Any F1 fans in Birmingham you can see a number of world title winning cars on exhibition this weekend. http://mclaren.com/article/2011/worl...nning-ca
95 Post contains links sudden : The rich brats are having a go at each other, http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88931 Although, I can very well see Ferrari trying to actual
96 Post contains images MadameConcorde : An F1 steering wheel and cockpit already featured numerous buttons, displays, levers and switches. Now we are adding KERS and the adjustable rear wing
97 GrahamHill : Well, it's been many years now that steering wheels look more like a keyboard than a steering wheel! I don't know how they can fully focus on their d
98 bill142 : Just integrate an iphone into the wheel and then they can have an infinite number of menus to scroll through to control the car.
99 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Red Bull to unveil new car RB7 February 1. Mercedes GP, Williams, Scuderia Toro Rosso and Lotus will be unveiling their new cars on the same date. Mor
100 francoflier : The French aren't really interested in automobile racing anymore, unfortunately. I think that's why PSA and Renault are cutting back on the racing mo
101 GrahamHill : F1 Launches calendar: Jan 28 - Ferrari Jan 31 - Lotus-Renault Jan 31 - Sauber Feb 1 - Mercedes Feb 1 - Red Bull Feb 1 - Toro Rosso Feb 1 - Williams Fe
102 Post contains images MadameConcorde : This is true. There was hardly anybody to see the cars in Monaco on Friday night for the Rallye. I must say it was really freezing but still... I wen
103 Post contains images GrahamHill : In Monaco, maybe. But in stages like Le Moulinon - Antraigues or St-Bonnet-le-Froid, there were plenty of people! My father's been there. A friend of
104 Post contains links BlueElephant : With all of the car launches over the next week, plus pre-season testing scheduled to begin...perhaps we should consider opening an off season 2 threa
105 Post contains images swissy : Could not agree more , we all need some warming up.. off season way to long , thanks for the link All I can see is Hami .. where is Kamuiiiiii hehehe
106 sudden : Who??? So which car are you most curious to see? I am waiting to see some big images of the new Lotus, or so called Lotus. The design and aero packag
107 GrahamHill : Actually, all of them! Ferrari will already give us a good hint on how the 2011 cars will look like.
108 Post contains links and images BlueElephant : The Ferrari is called the F150.... I think we have a good idea of how it will look already. something like this. http://tinyurl.com/4dnf4ot
109 Post contains images GrahamHill : An interesting design, but I'm doubtful about the Cx
110 BlueElephant : And i'm not sure those are Pirelli tires....Looks like they MAY have a issue with Ride height and downforce. on hte plus side...at least the side mir
111 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : There you go! The very first 2011 F1 to be unveiled: The Ferrari F150.
112 BlueElephant : Thanks for posting, Interesting to see that the shark fin is gone. I recall back in 2009 when the shark fins were used without F-ducts... That's an in
113 codeshare : It looks the same more or less compared with the previous model. There will be more exciting designs in the next few days. KS/codeshare
114 GrahamHill : I still can't stand the white on the wings...
115 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I don't like the white either. Let's see how the car will perform on the racing tracks. I have no doubt that Hammy and Jenson will have a magnificent
116 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Nice blog here Girls like F1 too - A female perspective on Formula One. The races, drivers, news and regulations. http://girlslikef1too.blogspot.com/
117 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : More info here: F1 Drivers on Twitter A number of current F1 drivers use Twitter, as do a few test drivers, these are the ones we know of. http://side
118 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : And here is a glimpse of the new Merc: More to come on the 1st of February for the official launch.
119 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : New Sauber C30:
120 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : New Lotus-Renault R31: Will edit this message later on to add more pictures when available.
121 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Thank you for posting this. I like the car a lot. I find it very pretty looking! Now I hope it will perform well on the racing track. It is wonderful
122 GrahamHill : Actually, I just read that it is forbidden to "link" any aero appendix to the rear wing. That's why the shark fin is gone.
123 Post contains images GrahamHill : It is for sure better looking than the previous one
124 BlueElephant : I actually really like the Mercedes out of all of the cars so far... It'll probably look different in real like but the renderings look very sleek. Ob
125 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Last year's would have looked and performed better if they had the same money from sponsors as McLaren and Red Bull and this year's much better even!
126 codeshare : The Renault, ooops Lotus, or whatsitsname, looks really nice. Looks like they went in the direction of Ferrari with the nose iso RBR. Sauber looks pre
127 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Are Sauber now racing without the name BMW?
128 Larshjort : Why would they race with the BMW name. Last year the change in ownership came too late to change the name. /Lasr
129 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Let the games begin! Testing begins in Valencia! The RB7 is out. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89185 Waiting for the new McLaren the MP4
130 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : You can follow Live texting of the Valencia test BBC Sport - F1 - Live text - F1 Valencia testing http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_o
131 codeshare : Red Bulls look pretty much the same. Merc has gone the RBR direction with the nose, Williams looks similar to last year's. Although Merc doesn't have
132 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : Thanks for the links Madame C. I'll post some here just for the sake of the overview Mercedes WO2: [Edited 2011-02-01 08:19:43]
133 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : Red Bull RB7: [Edited 2011-02-01 08:17:19]
134 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : Williams FW33:
135 BlueElephant : Thanks for all the pics mate I'm not sure I like the Mercedes very much anymore...is it ust me or does it look like hte nose wasn't done correctly? t
136 GrahamHill : Same here. It's weird-looking. Yes, once again, some have interpreted to the limit the new rules. It's optionnal, but those who don't want to (or fin
137 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Ha Ha! Me too!!!
138 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Valencia - Testing Day 2 Lewis Hamilton, Sebastian Vettel, Fernando Alonso and Robert Kubica are all in action on the second day of the first F1 pre-s
139 Acheron : Day 2 times. 1 ALONSO 1:13.307 2 VETTEL 1:13.614 3 DI RESTA 1:13.844 4 HULKENBERG 1:13.938 5 PAFFETT 1:14.292 6 HAMILTON 1:14.353 7 KUBICA 1:14.412 8
140 bill142 : Obviously they're confident in the strength of the design and construction. Rear wing failures generally don't end well. I'm wondering how any engine
141 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : From: Vodafone McLaren Mercedes - The Official Page Just one day to go until our brand-new car, the MP4-26, is revealed! Amazingly, a mere six per cen
142 Post contains images codeshare : Mobiles? Probably in the Vodafone network Sorry I just couldn't resist. Can't wait for the silver bullets... KS/codeshare[Edited 2011-02-03 12:46:37]
143 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Watch the unveiling of the new 2011 McLaren live on the internet! 20 minutes to go to the official presentation of the new MP4-26 with the McLaren tea
144 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Jenson! Lewis! I did not get the car! Was interrrupted by the mailman and then the presentation had ended. There will be plenty more to see on the McL
145 Post contains links BlueElephant : We haven't seen all of the car...I think McLaren have a lot up their sleeves...aside from the U-shape side pods, something tells me this car has a nu
146 Post contains links zizou : Looking fwd to the start of the f1 season, only a few weeks away. I found this article on this blogging site that compares F1 to Art. Its a good read
147 aerobalance : Wow, that MP4-26 is downright UGLY!!
148 CXB77L : What? I think it's gorgeous! It still has the best looking livery of any team. But I guess looks is subjective. Nothing wrong with the MP4-26 at all.
149 BlueElephant : I also thinks it looks good. I am very intrigued by its design though. Out of all of the designs out right now I think this is the most radical. Anyo
150 MadameConcorde : I noticed all these intricate details on the MP4-26 during the presentation. I think the car looks really good and I hope it will be the best performe
151 Post contains images codeshare : Overall I'm disappointed in the new McLaren, those side air intakes a wacky design, extra intakes behind the driver, ugly nose, nahhhh it better perfo
152 bill142 : I hear it has BMWs idrive system installed, so it could take a while. The side pods had to do with recovering lost down force. The air intakes, I hav
153 Post contains links GrahamHill : Robert Kubica taken to hospital after rally crash in Italy: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89309
154 Post contains links bill142 : BBC are suggesting tht Kubica has a fractured arm and leg and could miss the Bahrain GP. Could also possibly be career ending as the result of further
155 Post contains images EZEIZA : There is the possibility Kubica could lose an arm Terrible news, and I hope it's wrong news and we'll see him back on the tracks soon!
156 codeshare : He's a tough guy, I hope it's not as bad as the media report. KS/codeshare
157 Danny : This does not look good at all. Such a shame, just when it looked after initial tests that this could be his best season so far. My prayers are with h
158 aerobalance : Who will RK's replacement be? I liked the way RK attacked the circuit in Monaco, will miss him if he is unable to return. I'm hoping for the best.
159 BlueElephant : I hope for RK's sake you're incorrect, I think he'll be ok. He may miss a few races at most hopefully. Wishing him well for a speedy recovery. I can
160 Post contains links BlueElephant : http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89315 More on the Kubica situation. It looks like his arm will be ok. But he may be out for the season...
161 EZEIZA : According to AS, the doctors managed to save his arm, but it will take one year for his arm to heal
162 Post contains images cpd : That's great news that he'll be okay - I heard what they said on the radio this morning and I was thinking of the worst.
163 photopilot : Say what you will about Alonso, but that shows the true character of a gentleman to immediately go to the hospital to see his friend who is hurt. Spe
164 Post contains images L410Turbolet : Robert Kubica spent over 7 hours in the operation room and most likely he will not lose his hand. Kubica's car: . .
165 codeshare : Pictures are tragic. Nevertheless Schumi made it back, and I sincerely hope Robert will be back. I think at least a few months for getting back to hea
166 Post contains links and images cpd : http://www.caradvice.com.au/103287/r...1-formula-one-season-over-surgeon/ Kubica might recover from it, and hopefully his hand will be okay. It's stil
167 EZEIZA : This might be a stupid question, but why do F1 teams allow their drivers to compete in other risky competitions?
168 Post contains links GrahamHill : Boullier said the following: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89315
169 Post contains links Danny : A reconstruction of the accident can be seen here: http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1692023,0,1,z...k-sie-rozbil-kubica,wiadomosc.html It's almost a miracle tha
170 L410Turbolet : Wow, both were incredibly lucky. Had it not been for the barrier disintegrating that pierced through the car it would be a very banal accident.
171 bill142 : That explains why thing are so bad as the other pictures I've seen made it look a bit strange that his injuries were so bad.
172 sudden : Lets hope for a speedy recovery for Robert. He's genuine race driver weho belongs in the sport. Apparently heads are turning towards Heidfeld as repla
173 Post contains links BlueElephant : http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89366 Renault to Evaluate Heidfeld at Jerez testing. I'm a fan of the idea...He's a quick driver who for s
174 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : Ford sues Ferrari over F150 name: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89369 I don't think, it's too difficult
175 Post contains images codeshare : Wow, something really cool: a few cars have the "Szybkiego powrotu do zdrowia Robert" (get well fast Robert) phrase on them during Thursday's testing.
176 Post contains links CXB77L : I think they have a legitimate case. F150 is Ford's trademark, at least in the US, and all Ford are asking for is a stop to the www.ferrarif150.com d
177 Post contains links GrahamHill : And Ferrari thought the same. They already change the name of the car! F150th Italia is the new name. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/893
178 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Today at Jerez Current Times and Laps: 1. ALO 1'20.493 (87) 2. SCH 1'21.054 (78) 3. KOB 1'21.242 (59) 4. HEI 1'21.270 (56) 5. VET 1'21.574 (61) 6. HAM
179 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Not sure this will help although I hope Kubica will recover from his accident and take back his seat as a F1 driver where he belongs. A Kubica mracle
180 MadameConcorde : Today at Jerez Latest times: 1. BAR 1'19.832 (79) 2. KOB 1'20.601 (38) 3. ALO 1'21.074 (66) 4. BUE 1'21.213 (42) 5. SEN 1'21.990 (55) 6. VET 1'22.222
181 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Circuito de Jerez 13 February 2011 today last day's testing final timings. 1. Rubens Barrichello 1:19.832 2. Kamui Kobayashi 1:20.601 3. Fernando Alon
182 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Latest: Bahrain rioters to target F1 with fresh protests Bahrain protestors plan to target the Formula One Grand Prix on March 11 with fresh riots in
183 stealthz : And Bernie will do what he can to keep an event in a location that has no interest in motosports, virtually no spectator interest in the event and ce
184 GrahamHill : I feel your sadness, stealthz. French GP is no longer in the calendar and nobody seem to care here...
185 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Bahrain cancelled? This would really bug me as I am all booked, airline ticket and all and looking forward to the trip. Many are like me wondering if
186 GrahamHill : In normal times, I would not cry the cancellation of Bahrain, to be honest. But if you have booked everything to go there, then I wish that the GP wi
187 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Fearful Bernie! Formula One chief Bernie Ecclestone fears Bahrain Grand Prix may be targeted by anti-government protesters Bernie Ecclestone has admit
188 Post contains links BlueElephant : http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89513 Heidfeld confirmed at Renault... Good for him!
189 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I don't understand why they brought in Nick Heidfeld when Kubica's choice to replace him was Tonio Liuzzi.
190 codeshare : I can understand: Heidfeld is systematic, he's got experience, I think he can work on the development of the car. He can bring in some decent points f
191 Post contains links MadameConcorde : I am more concerned about Bahrain. Things are heating up... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12477620 Thousands of people have occupied the
192 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Getting ugly in Bahrain. UPDATE: Three killed as Bahrain police crackdown on protests Bahraini police stormed a protest camp in a central Manama squar
193 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : Kubica underwent his last surgery yesterday. 8 hours on the operating table http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89514 I'd like to know how man
194 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : More from Bahrain - F1 insider on site. Quite an eerie situation. http://willthef1journo.wordpress.com.../02/17/a-view-from-inside-bahrain/ Todt is pl
195 Post contains links MadameConcorde : They have called off GP2 Asia. The testing and the race. GP2 race scrapped as Bahrain protests worsen ESPNF1 Staff The future of next month's Bahrain
196 MadameConcorde : Update on Robert Kubica (AFP) – 7 hours ago ROME — Formula One ace Robert Kubica has begun physiotherapy after undergoing a third operation on inj
197 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Bernie Ecclestone to let Bahrain decide on grand prix ... Ecclestone told BBC Sport that crown prince Salman bin Hamad al-Khalifah was best placed to
198 bill142 : I think you've completely misinterpreted his statement. He's not saying the FIA isn't concerned, he's merely saying the FIA isn't getting to swept up
199 francoflier : Of course they are... The FIA has been whoring itself to the Middle East states for money, they have no leverage over that kind of decision. Had that
200 Post contains links BlueElephant : http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89598 Bahrain will not host opening race of 2011
201 Post contains links GrahamHill : Bahrain GP officially cancelled!! http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89598 No alternate GP is planned, therefore Australia will host the open
202 BlueElephant : I vote for 2 races at Spa!
203 KiwiRob : Good news too, I hope they don't go back, it's a boring circuit and a dull race, F1 does not belong in the Middle East.
204 Post contains images GrahamHill : I'd personally vote for my national GP I totally agree! They are just there for the money.
205 Post contains images swissy : How about Paul Ricard No surprise... just s...s to wait 2 extra weeks again... Cheerios,
206 na : Ferrari-pilot Massa fastest in Barcelona-tests! Massa laps at 1:22:625, well ahead of a stunned Webber, Buemi, Heidfeld and Hamilton. I´m surprised n
207 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Breaking news: Bahrain GP back on!
208 MIAspotter : HA!! You can see the new Ferrari double square rear diffuser, it helps with downforce on tight corners... but I am not sure about the pointy bit at t
209 Post contains images GrahamHill : I don't know why but I think the GP's average speed will be slower this year
210 Post contains images codeshare : LOL Madame that's excellent - if somebody gets ahead of Fernando he will be shot from the cannon Try it Lewis, Vet or Vitaly I guess team orders allow
211 Post contains images MadameConcorde : A little self gloss here. Happy Birthday to me! 4 years on the forum already.
212 BlueElephant : Awesome! Looks like 3 wide through the Pit lane and Alonso just knocked over his pit crew!
213 Post contains links MadameConcorde : The downside F1 to take $100M hit from cancellation of Bahrain GP. http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=43008
214 Post contains images MIAspotter : Oh well... what's a 100M for Mr Midget Ecclestone... pocket money Wish I could have at least 10k Euros from his pocket money tho... Still, sucks abou
215 Post contains images MadameConcorde : especially for all those who had planned to travel and I am in the lot. We don't have Bernie's money. Other than the race tickets, no refunds for our
216 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : Williams F1 unveiled their colours for the 2011 season: Does the back remind of you something?
217 CXB77L : It does indeed. The Rothmans livery was one of my favourites of all time ... no, not hust that, it is my favourite livery of all time. I loved it. Bu
218 CXB77L : I meant to say not just* that ... I hate only noticing a typo when it's too late to fix!
219 Post contains images GrahamHill : Same here. They were very elegant liveries, but the general shape of the cars at the time also increased that feeling. When I look at Senna's William
220 bill142 : Here I was thinking you were getting all hot and steamy over it!
221 Post contains images MadameConcorde : This one is for Graham Hill
222 Post contains images GrahamHill : Thank you Madame C!! You know how much I love Fiszman! It's been a while since I posted one of his drawing, but I think I'll resume for the 2011 seas
223 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Key: Inexperience not detrimental Not for the first time this year - and probably not the last either - James Key has defended Sauber's inexperienced
224 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Kobayashi reveals overtaking doubts KERS: The most important question is how you can improve lap times with the new systems and by how much," he said.
225 na : Ecclestone is contemplating about what could add some spice to F1 to overcome the problem of steadily shrinking chances to overtake. He mentions artif
226 CXB77L : Ecclestone has a point, but I don't want F1 to degenerate into a farcical show of artificial racing. I do agree that races have become too much like a
227 Post contains images GrahamHill : Cars have too much downforce. That's one of the reasons why cars can't overtake. Artificial rain my arse. Talk about a waste of natural and vital res
228 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : Winter tests have resumed in Barcelona this morning (and for a duration of 4 days). A strange nose appeared on the McLarens: According to Autosport: h
229 Post contains images codeshare : Looks like an alien. Where's Ripley ???? Maybe they moved KERS over there Discussion is kind of empty isn't it? We would have been already into the se
230 Post contains images GrahamHill : Well, there has been nothing going on between the last tests in Februeary and those ones, so... we'll have to wait a bit more
231 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I am just back from Bahrain. All I can say is the protests are more a media hype than real trouble in the place. Aside from the camp site at the Pear
232 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Vodafone McLaren Mercedes is pleased to welcome Pedro de la Rosa back as its official test and reserve driver. The Spaniard originally joined McLaren-
233 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Speaking after today’s test session in Barcelona the Japanese driver said: “Now all my thoughts are with the people in Japan. “My country has su
234 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Robert Kubica will have to undergo a 4th surgery on his elbow, doctors said. http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/68...anetF1+News%29&utm_content=Twi
235 Post contains links BlueElephant : All- F1 2011: Australian Grand Prix! (by BlueElephant Mar 21 2011 in Non Aviation) OZ GP thread here! Cheers!
236 Post contains images codeshare : Finally )) KS/codeshare
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