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TSA Pat-Down Must Be Sharia Compliant  
User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2824 posts, RR: 18
Posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4184 times:

Quote:
"......Note to terrorists: Next time, wear a hijab. The Department of Homeland Security reportedly is giving special exemptions to their "enhanced pat-down" policy to Muslim women wearing the hijab or other form-concealing garments.

Last week, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) issued a "travel advisory" noting that women who are patted down "should remind the TSA officer that they are only supposed to pat down the area in question, in this scenario, your head and neck. They SHOULD NOT subject you to a full-body or partial-body pat-down." It's unclear why CAIR believes TSA frisking must be Shariah-compliant."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ov/17/terrorists-hiding-in-hijabs/

Simply unbelieveable. That members of the group that has caused such a turmoil in air-travel and world security should demand that their Sharia law be respected by TSA and airport security. WOW.... wear a hijab and only get your head and neck patted down...... and let them pat THEMSELVES down for the rest. So let me get this right, 3 year old kids must subject themselves to groping of their genitalia, but women from the demographic that should be searched the most, get a free pass.

Monty Python couldn't have written a better scenario.

[Edited 2010-11-21 10:59:17]

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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8954 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

So we are not allowed to profile, so we have to invasively search little old blue-haired granny, but we actually do profile for the one religion that has caused this whole mess in order to EXEMPT them from such searches.

Makes perfect sense to me...  



Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos
User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4134 times:

Quoting photopilot (Thread starter):
So let me get this right, 3 year old kids must subject themselves to groping of their genitalia, but women from the demographic that should be searched the most, get a free pass.

        

Reality overtaking satire? The land of the unlimited possibilities, it really is.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1):
so we have to invasively search little old blue-haired granny

blue-eyed you mean?


User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1582 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

yeah i draw the line at this...SERIOUSLY?? Or is it just me or does every new TSA story sound more ridiculous...

User currently offlineozglobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2732 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

I've got a fully Sharia Compliant policy to propose to the TSA:

All hijab wearing women go permanently on the no-fly list. This will avoid any risk of inappropriate patting down and is the safest way to avoid an y Sharia infringements.



When all's said and done, there'll be more said than done.
User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4104 times:
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A lot of people fought and died for the idea that all people in the USA are protected under the same law and those laws apply to all people. The entire civil rights movement was about equality and equal protection under the law. How any group of people can expect a different set of laws to apply to them in the this country is beyond belief.

So it is not ok to grab around on a Muslim woman, but it is ok to grab around on other women? This country has got to stop being affraid of law suits and the terrorists themselves. This entire thing got started because if Islamic facists who hate everyone, even many of their fellow Muslims. Spare me the Tim McVeigh wasn't a Muslim story because a lot of changed in the last 15 years and even if you throw that in it has nothing to do with air travel. This country has shown it is affraid of these people because it will bend to their every request, to the point where they can demand laws be bent for their beliefs, while the rest of us have to follow. What if I want to be protected under Sharia law? I guess I am not eligable because I am an Episcopalian. So much for equal rights for everyone.

This past summer I was boarding a flight at AMS to MAN and there was a woman in line who was completely covered, not even her eyes were showing. I assume it was a woman.... The agent looked at "her" ID and she proceeded to board. Never having seen a face there was not way of knowing if that woman was really a woman or was the person who's ID it was. I thought to myslef, "what a great way to smuggle somebody in or out of a country, who was from the law, Muslim or otherwise.



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User currently onlineandz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8464 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4095 times:
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Just when I thought political correctness couldn't get any more insane....


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 5):
Or is it just me or does every new TSA story sound more ridiculous...

It is not just you, they are getting more and more ridiculous. The urine story was bad enough, but now this...


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

In case the TSA decides to apply this rule

I should go to an islamic clothing store and buy me a full covering dress complete with a hijab before I have to go through US airports? Religion is not indicated in passports. I would not have to submit to full body touching from head to toes?

hmmm... mabye all of us women flyers should get islamic attire and change clothes before we pass through US airports security check poiints.

It's tempting... really!

  



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4022 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 8):
In case the TSA decides to apply this rule

I should go to an islamic clothing store and buy me a full covering dress complete with a hijab before I have to go through US airports? Religion is not indicated in passports. I would not have to submit to full body touching from head to toes?

hmmm... mabye all of us women flyers should get islamic attire and change clothes before we pass through US airports security check poiints.

It's tempting... really!

100% right. Every woman/girl in the US old enough for those nice body-searches should dress like that at the airport.


User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4018 times:

Question: What would happen if a transvestite was patted down by a TSA agent?

User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2824 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3990 times:

LOL, wait till the next time I get a TSA enhanced pat-down. I'm going to give an Oscar winning performance. Moan and groan and scream "Don't Stop.... oh.... more..... I love it. Rub it harder.... faster!!!!!" We'll see just how much of a commotion I can cause and how embarrassed I can make the rent-a-goon.

I mean, I'm not breaking any of their stupid laws. Just letting em know how much I love it!!!!

Then I'll loudly ask him for a tissue so I can "clean up"!!!!!

           


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3979 times:

Quoting photopilot (Reply 11):
LOL, wait till the next time I get a TSA enhanced pat-down. I'm going to give an Oscar winning performance. Moan and groan and scream "Don't Stop.... oh.... more..... I love it. Rub it harder.... faster!!!!!" We'll see just how much of a commotion I can cause and how embarrassed I can make the rent-a-goon.

I mean, I'm not breaking any of their stupid laws. Just letting em know how much I love it!!!!

Then I'll loudly ask him for a tissue so I can "clean up"!!!!!

Go 4 it. I was once close to asking one of the screeners in Germany whether he had work as a masseur before. It really seemed like that to me.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3978 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
100% right. Every woman/girl in the US old enough for those nice body-searches should dress like that at the airport.

I am talking seriously. If there is no full touching for these women, then I will wear a full Islamic costume to wear for going through the US security check points. They won't even see my eyes. LOL
If the TSA woman says I don't look like the one on my passport picture I will just tell her I recently converted.
The sales ladies in the store will be more than happy to show me how to put it on. I will be a big success. Only I will not let them know why I am buying the outfit.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3942 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 13):
I am talking seriously. If there is no full touching for these women, then I will wear a full Islamic costume to wear for going through the US security check points. They won't even see my eyes. LOL
If the TSA woman says I don't look like the one on my passport picture I will just tell her I recently converted.
The sales ladies in the store will be more than happy to show me how to put it on. I will be a big success. Only I will not let them know why I am buying the outfit.

I am serious, too. This surveillance-insanity has gotten out of control. If this is a way of avoiding the worst, then people should do it. Imagine an airport in the US where every woman lines up for security wearing those clothes.

Either will this "loophole" be closed or security will move back in the direction of sanity.


User currently offlineN867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3934 times:

This is how they are slowly breaking. They're realizing that the average American will not stand to be sexually abused just to board a plane. First they gave up on molesting pilots, and now they're making an exception on getting to 2nd base with Muslim women. They are doing this to be political correct, but I feel they will soon have to give up this whole patting down/taking naked pictures nonsense.

Opt out, each time, every time!

EDIT: http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world...a-chief-screening-will-749195.html (this is how sanity is slowly restored. Keep up the good fight!)

[Edited 2010-11-21 13:31:49]


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User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3876 times:
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Quoting comorin (Reply 10):
Question: What would happen if a transvestite was patted down by a TSA agent?

I bet it has already happened.... I saw a "woman" at the airport once who was wearing tight jeans and "her" manliness was in plain view!   

Quoting photopilot (Reply 11):
I mean, I'm not breaking any of their stupid laws. Just letting em know how much I love it!!!!

I bet there are people who will actually love it. That may be the first feel up they got in ages....


Guys like Larry Craig who like to meet up with strangers in airport restrooms may think this is great, getting to second base without getting out of line...



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User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1582 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3854 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 16):

I bet there are people who will actually love it. That may be the first feel up they got in ages....

i havent gotten felt up in a year lol..i wouldnt mind a hot chick TSA agent doing it to me .


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3773 times:
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Quoting caliatenza (Reply 17):
i havent gotten felt up in a year lol..i wouldnt mind a hot chick TSA agent doing it to me

I have actually seen a few good looking female TSA agents and I wouldn't mind a feel up from them.... I might like it a little too much.....   



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20336 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3774 times:

Quoting photopilot (Thread starter):
That members of the group that has caused such a turmoil in air-travel and world security should demand that their Sharia law be respected by TSA and airport security.

I don't think they see themselves as members of that group. They see themselves as air travelers being subjected to an unnecessarily invasive search. They object for religious reasons. I object for other reasons.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3742 times:

I can go on and on about how screwed up this really is.

Quoting photopilot (Thread starter):
Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

What's scary is that this organization already has two members in the US House of Representatives.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlinetbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3729 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
What's scary is that this organization already has two members in the US House of Representatives.

Scary? Come on now, are you saying we should be scared? Are Americans suddenly so sensitive that we need to be scared of this?

Who are these two representatives you are speaking of by the way?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3729 times:

Quoting tbar220 (Reply 21):
Scary? Come on now, are you saying we should be scared? Are Americans suddenly so sensitive that we need to be scared of this?


Absolutely scary because there are a lot of pansies that will rush to defend them too.

Quoting tbar220 (Reply 21):
Who are these two representatives you are speaking of by the way?


The two thugs I'm referring to is Keith Ellison and Andre Carson.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlinetbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3723 times:

I'm going to challenge you Larry because I don't see why they are "scary". Show me why I should be afraid of Keith Ellison and Andre Carson. I challenge you to show me what makes them "thugs".

Start with that, then we'll move to your claim of how defending them makes one a pansy.



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User currently offlineelmothehobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
The two thugs I'm referring to is Keith Ellison and Andre Carson.

Those scary, educated Black Muslims. Good God.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
Absolutely scary because there are a lot of pansies that will rush to defend them too.

Freedom of speech can be a b*tch.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
What's scary is that this organization already has two members in the US House of Representatives.

2 members of CAIR vs. how many members of Congress pandering to AIPAC? Please, give it a break.


25 ltbewr : Next will be Hasidic/Orthodox Jews asking for exemption, then Mormons, then other religoius Christiians. That will just mean eventually only Wicca and
26 Mudboy : "Memo to North American Cells from Osama Bin Laden" For next planned attack, triple amount of Semtex, all operatives are now required to dress in burk
27 Superfly : Race has nothing to do with it. I'd feel the same if they were White, Asian or any other race. That is a serious plroblem too.
28 Zentraedi : Maybe it's part of the TSA's plan to convert more Americans to Islam?
29 kanban : TSA must ask "which sex are you today so we can provide the appropriate sexed fondler? "
30 Post contains links Quokka : So that people can make an informed judgment here is a link to the travel advisory referred to in the Washington Times: http://www.cair.com/ArticleDet
31 Mudboy : My question in all this, is why is Sharia Law even an issue here? What does Sharia Law have to do with the laws in the US? Why is Sharia law even cons
32 DocLightning : Because it is one of many religious laws that these absurd searches will violate. They also violate Jewish laws on modesty.
33 OA412 : Defending someone against for what they believe doesn't make you a pansy. Please explain how they are thugs. Or are you suggesting that being a Musli
34 Post contains images Superfly : ....and here we go again. Their belief is to undo our freedom and what America stands for. So yes, the term "pansy" is a fitting term for those that
35 DocLightning : Not really. Their belief is that they shouldn't have their junk fondled by a (wo)man in a uniform just because they want to get on a plane. Which hap
36 KiwiRob : Earlier this year I was in an Airport in Moscow, the immigration person refused to allow the muslim women in the burka thru until she had completely
37 futurepilot16 : As much as I don't want to go out on a limb and say that Muslims should be searched more, it's true, and this idea of not searching Muslims because of
38 DocLightning : So is the idea of searching them more. You don't get an irrevocable tattoo that states that you're a Muslim. It's impossible to tell who really is an
39 Quokka : Perhaps that could be rewritten to "because of some muslims". I have travelled extensively in North Africa and the Middle East and you know what? All
40 tbar220 : Still going to keep pushing back Fly. I said it in my last reply, and you didn't answer my questions. The onus is still on you as you've made these t
41 MoltenRock : You know, you'd think in this day and age people would automatically assume a story as stupid and fake as this one wouldn't be supped up by the popul
42 PWM2TXLHopper : Wonderful! Political Correctness in it's best! O.k., I'll go with this as long as they respect the rest of Sharia Law. That means if one of the woman
43 Post contains links Superfly : Here are few links. Yeah, yeah I already know you're just going to claim the 'source' isn't valid, it's 'biased', right-wing blah-blah-blah but here
44 steeler83 : OK, the TSA truely should be done away with having seen that! They are doing anything BUT what they're supposed to be doing to keep our country safe!
45 cws818 : They are dead and decomposing underground.
46 Post contains images Superfly : They didn't have to deal with Islamic terrorist. We will never see men of that caliber in politics again because we have a media that prys in to peop
47 PWM2TXLHopper : That's what happens when people embrace being progressive so that society can "evolve". Things progress and evolve into a complete joke. And after a
48 Superfly : Actually we Atheist aren't offended by Christmas at all. In fact, the Buddhist and Hindus aren't offended either. That is all a big lie cooked up by
49 PanHAM : The latest issue of FLYING TYPERS, an internet newsletter for the air cargo industry just received 1 hour ago this morning has an interesting story ab
50 Dreadnought : Actually they did. Ever heard of the Barbary Pirates? The Shores of Tripoli? Muslim rulers were capturing American ships and enslaving their crews be
51 Quokka : The pirates were not terrorists as they had no political ends. The pirates were motivated less by Islam than by economic gain. Indeed Christians (and
52 Superfly : Interesting stuff and thanks for bringing that up. Since negotiation didn't work then, I see no reason why it should work today. Hence why slavery st
53 N867DA : This is probably the biggest lie I'll read on the internet today, and it's only 10.37 am in Atlanta. Unless of course, by 'one' you meant 'most'.
54 Scorpio : Funny how your post gets almost completely ignored, isn't it? After all, who cares about facts when there's a scary rumour about Evil Muslims to be f
55 Superfly : I guess denial is a form of therapy for some. No point in bursting them out of their happy bubble.
56 MoltenRock : The government HAS adopted many of the same Israeli tactics use, like behavior analysts at each security area, government watch lists, and others. El
57 N867DA : Uh, no buddy. The LA Times recently had an op-ed that told people to "shut up and get scanned". This is a newspaper that in decades past told legal J
58 Post contains images Superfly : I don't agree with the LA Times recent article, nor do I agree with the internment of Japanese Americans. Not sure who's being Islamaphobic in this t
59 MoltenRock : Interestingly enough, and quite accurately, you left off "Christian" from your list. Given America is mainly a "Christian" country it's pretty clear
60 Superfly : Amish and Mormons are Christians.
61 kanban : so was Timothy McVeigh.....and the Crusaders (not the band) However on a more realistic level... has all this airport security really accomplished an
62 Post contains images Superfly : Oh not this again! Now isn't that a coincidence!?!?! I'm listening to them right now on my headphones! Sadly you're right and I believe they have som
63 Scorpio : I guess so. It might explain why a thread about Muslims demanding security is 'Sharia compliant' continues to run more than 30 posts after it has bee
64 WildcatYXU : Except his motive wasn't religious, so he doesn't belong to this topic.
65 Superfly : CAIR needs to keep their mouth shut on this issue because they are part of the problem in the first place. Let's not pretend that they're a separate
66 Post contains images Superfly : ...but the argument sounds good for the apologist. Sounds like you've just burst another happy bubble!
67 Post contains images AF340 : Except he wasn't. He was an agnostic who claimed "Science is his religion" to the writers of his biography, 'American Terrorist'. Facts are a bi*ch -
68 Scorpio : Just exactly what in post 30 (you know, that which CAIR actually said, not what some paper with an agenda made of it) is it you take offense to? -Is
69 WildcatYXU : Thank you! However, I'd love if someone could burst the bigger and happier bubble - the one about good everyday's muslims and the bad muslim extremis
70 MD11Engineer : just a practical suggestion for a procedure as it is been done over here: Men are being searched by male security guards and women by female guards. I
71 PPVRA : How does that change anything? The full/partial-body exemption is mentioned in there (or at least a reference to it). I'm not sure this metal-detecto
72 Scorpio : The 'only the head' remark quite clearly refers to a situation where a woman was selected for secondary screening because of her headscarf. It is not
73 PPVRA : So it only applies to those who already went through the full-body scanners in the first place, but were selected for additional screening because of
74 Scorpio : No, it applies to those who went through the metal detector, didn't set it off, and are then selected for secondary screening because of the headscar
75 cws818 : But, how and why?
76 Post contains links L410Turbolet : Perhaps a manual how to throw the "racism" or "religious sensitivities taken ad absurdum" card into the game? "...ask the TSA officer if the reason y
77 Scorpio : How is this "religious sensitivities taken ad absurdum"? If you don't set off the metal detector, and haven't been selected for the secondary screeni
78 Post contains images L410Turbolet : No doubt about that.
79 Dreadnought : If you were an American, I would berate you for not having learned the history of your country. As you are not an American, there is little reason th
80 Post contains images OA412 : Is it really? This is false right-wing propanda, plain and simple. Beliving such nonsense requires us to concede that this country and its Constituti
81 AF340 : National Liberation Front of Tripura are a nationalist terrorist movement not a religious terrorist group. Once again, facts are.... The Lord's Resis
82 Quokka : My thanks for the allowance you extend to me as a non-US citizen. I could have written "some Christians" as I am aware that clearly many Christians d
83 Dreadnought : Believe me, there are more than plenty of Americans who don't know this, and have been indoctrinated with the idea that all the founders were slavery
84 elmothehobo : You can (correctly) state that the Founding Fathers faced a great dilemma in dealing with slavery, to deny that many of them were slave owners is abs
85 Post contains images Superfly : I'd desperately like to know as well. Can anyone come forward and answer? Anyone? That is all part of the America-bashing that is en vogue on the far
86 Post contains images falstaff : If you had continued on that path I very much doubt you and I would be friends. If the Islamic facists were to take over you wouldn't have any of tha
87 Post contains links L410Turbolet : What defies logic is why certain lefties play so often and with such passion "useful advocates" (once again) to an ideology which goes completely aga
88 Post contains images Quokka : OK, given that some people will never be convinced by facts the simple solution would appear to simply deport all Muslims from the US and Europe. Let
89 Post contains links Slider : Yet the very tenets of Islam as it's practices in many places around the globe is not compatible with a free society. But if you want to continue to
90 Quokka : On topic, the link that I provided indicates that no special exemption is being requested. Other posters have stated that they share the same concern
91 MD11Engineer : Sir, for this statement you belong on my respected posters list! Jan
92 Post contains links Slider : Well, exemptions are being requested officially by CAIR, and Incompetano has already tried to squirm out of answering by being diberately vague and n
93 Scorpio : They are? Where?
94 Post contains links Dreadnought : Google is your friend http://www.realestateradiousa.com/ta...giving-exemption-for-muslim-women/
95 Scorpio : So is media player. I'm going to guess you didn't watch the video that's included in your link, where the woman from CAIR makesit quite clear that al
96 Dreadnought : And immediately afterwards asks for special treatment. It's like saying "I'm not a racist, but all ni%%ers are lazy." On that I agree.
97 Scorpio : Where? She makes it very clear (TWICE) that all they're asking is that TSA policy is enacted, and that they want people to know what that policy is a
98 Dreadnought : And asking for the right to pat down themselves. Missed that part...
99 Scorpio : I quote, from your link: "TSA policies allow for individuals to pat their own heads down." You'll find it around the two minute mark. Missed that par
100 SOBHI51 : [quote=Superfly,reply=34]So? Obtaining a degree doesn't exempt one from doing great harm. Dubya has a degree too. Not all "thugs" are dumb & uned
101 Post contains images Superfly : That is like a student demanding that they grade their own papers and their own test.
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