kevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1129 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3103 times:
Very interesting development. Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently and told a Saudi newspaper that she wants her son to convert. I wonder is he is gonna comment on this. Here is a kink:
Springbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3094 times:
Seriously? Why is this even news? So what if his grandma prayed he should become a Muslim? He is not. In fact I think he isn't even Christian, but more of an agnostic/atheist. And prayers don't work anyway....
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16807 posts, RR: 57 Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3088 times:
Quoting kevin (Thread starter): Very interesting development. Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently and told a Saudi newspaper that she wants her son to convert. I wonder is he is gonna comment on this. Here is a kink:
Right now, I'm far more concerned about the fact that our furnace is broken and the furnace guy is over an hour late.
Like, a million times more concerned. In fact, the Constitution expressly prohibits requiring any "test of religion" to hold any public office.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18805 posts, RR: 64 Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3053 times:
Quokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3033 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 6): Wait, no one's bitching about that the article didn't say which airline/aircraft/reg. no. she flew on. This is airliners.net still, yes?
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18805 posts, RR: 64 Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3025 times:
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16807 posts, RR: 57 Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3021 times:
avent From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2963 times:
Quoting kevin (Thread starter): Very interesting development. Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently and told a Saudi newspaper that she wants her son to convert. I wonder is he is gonna comment on this.
Why don't you explain to us why anyone with half a brain should pay attention to this or think it's anything other than part of the political sewage that permeates current politics?
Dreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 7755 posts, RR: 22 Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2898 times:
Quoting kevin (Thread starter): Very interesting development. Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently and told a Saudi newspaper that she wants her son to convert. I wonder is he is gonna comment on this.
Well technically, according to Islamic law, Obama would legally be considered a muslim since his father was muslim. Since he apparently is now christian, he would be considered an apostate.
The New York Times did a piece on the issue a couple of years ago.
Because no government is likely to allow the prosecution of a President Obama — not even those of Iran and Saudi Arabia, the only two countries where Islamic religious courts dominate over secular law — another provision of Muslim law is perhaps more relevant: it prohibits punishment for any Muslim who kills any apostate, and effectively prohibits interference with such a killing.
At the very least, that would complicate the security planning of state visits by President Obama to Muslim countries, because the very act of protecting him would be sinful for Islamic security guards.
Things like that must send the Secret Service in to epileptic fits.
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16807 posts, RR: 57 Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2819 times:
Quoting Quokka (Reply 10):
Hasn't your furnace guy turned up yet?
Naw, man. We gotta live like this for three more days. Fireplace, oven, space heaters, two warm dogs. Freshly bathed and conditioned.
The part has to come in and it won't be in until Tuesday.
FML.
And lest any mod say that this is OT, I did justify this as being more important to me than Obama's grandmother's prayers on the Hajj.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14315 posts, RR: 26 Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2813 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14): And lest any mod say that this is OT, I did justify this as being more important to me than Obama's grandmother's prayers on the Hajj.
Maybe you should have her pray for your furnace, just to hedge your bets.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16807 posts, RR: 57 Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2800 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 16):
Maybe you should have her pray for your furnace, just to hedge your bets.
Well, I'm a Jew (sorta). I can get some Christians, Muslims, maybe some Bhuddists and Shintoists and Unitarians to pray for it just to cover all my bases.
Springbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 13 Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2717 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17): Well, I'm a Jew (sorta). I can get some Christians, Muslims, maybe some Bhuddists and Shintoists and Unitarians to pray for it just to cover all my bases.
What about Hindus...there are more than a billion of us ya know...
Quokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2691 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17): I can get some Christians, Muslims, maybe some Bhuddists and Shintoists and Unitarians to pray for it just to cover all my bases.
Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 18): What about Hindus...there are more than a billion of us ya know...
Sounds like you could be starting a new movement for inter-faith understanding and co-operation, Doc.
StuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1781 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2648 times:
Every day of her life my grandmother prayed I'd become a Methodist.
TSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2870 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2589 times:
Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 20): Every day of her life my grandmother prayed I'd become a Methodist.
Grandmothers often seem to pray for strange and irrelevant things. Case in point:
Over dinner once, my grandmother announced that she "prayed all the time" that my Dad and (common-law of about 15 years at the time) stepmother would get married so they'd no longer be "living in sin", and then asked me what I thought about it. I chuckled and said "First off, 'living in sin' makes it sound like a lot more fun than it actually is on a day-to-day basis. I could see your point if they were two 16-year-olds who'd never been out of the house before, but they're both way over 21... in fact, they both have grown kids who are way over 21, it's not like Glenda (my stepmother) is gonna come up pregnant (hysterectomy), plus both of them have been married three times before they met so it's not likely they're gonna find out anything from each other they didn't already know before they moved in together. I figure marriage-wise they've both paid their debts to society already with 'time served' and should be free to do whatever they want now".
After hearing my response on the matter, my grandmother looked as if I'd just force-fed her a bushel of lemons.
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29 474218: Obama's "granny" wants "her son"? Please provide further details!!
30 Revelation: Most of the Muslims I've met are wonderful people and great members of society. It wouldn't bother me in the least if Obama decided to become Muslim.
31 OA412: Much ado about nothing! So what if she prayed for him to become Muslim. People pray that a lot of things will happen (many of them not so nice), but
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