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Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes  
User currently offlinetexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4275 posts, RR: 52
Posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1694 times:

Illinois becomes the next state to pass some sort of civil union legislation. It passed the House by a 61-52 vote and should be passed by the Senate and signed into law by the governor tomorrow. Way to go Illinois!

Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

YEE HAW!!! Proud of my ancestral homeland  


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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5049 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

ok now, one small step


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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5240 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

Excellent news! Hopefully we'll start seeing more of this.


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User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1577 times:
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What are the provisions for "divorce"? Wherever there is a union or marriage you will have some people getting divorced.

I remember reading someplace that when gay marraige became legal in Quebec there were couples who wanted divorced but gay divorce wasn't legal....



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User currently offlineHKA098 From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

Great news! Congrats Il !

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21558 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 3):
Excellent news! Hopefully we'll start seeing more of this.

I hate to say it, but hopefully not. There are still some rights that this bill does not grant that heterosexual marriage enjoys, and that's not enough. I understand the idea that something is better than nothing, but I worry that this will be seen as a solution, and thus make people think that the problem is solved, when in reality it's just an incremental step.

I've long said that the only real equality is when gays can get married, not just get civil unions. But I would have still been okay with this had it kept the idea of civil unions but granted the exact same legal rights as marriages. But it doesn't even go that far, so I'm left feeling kind of lukewarm about it.

-Mir



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19513 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 6):

I've long said that the only real equality is when gays can get married, not just get civil unions.

Or alternatively, when straights no longer can "get married," but can only get civil unions.

This is "separate but equal" and this is not OK. Sorry, Illinois, but I'm not impressed.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21558 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1498 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
Or alternatively, when straights no longer can "get married," but can only get civil unions.

That would be fine, too.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
This is "separate but equal"

THAT'S the term I was looking for. Except they're still not exactly equal.

-Mir



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User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1440 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
when straights no longer can "get married," but can only get civil unions.

you can count on this straight guy not getting married or getting a civil union.   



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