TZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2867 posts, RR: 6 Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1896 times:
At the current moment I am trying to gather information about areas I may be living in for graduate school next year, Norman (OKC) and Moscow (Northern Idaho). I would like input from as many people about these areas as possible as I have very little clue about the weather, people, culture, lifestyle, etc about these places and I would like to live in a place that suits my tastes.
I'm not sure what else to add since I'm pretty liberal about where I live because I'm sure OK and ID will be different than where I've lived previously, along the beach and in Appalachia.
Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2764 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1869 times:
Norman, OK is mainly a liberal "friendly" part of town. This coming from a conservative. With the college, it tends to remain pretty liberal close in to the college in Norman, more conservative as you move closer to south OKC/Moore (North Norman). I am an OKC resident and I love it here, you will miss the beach, but the downtown OKC area and Bricktown entertainment districts (also in downtown) are really growing at an unbelievable pace, and are really fun places to be in the evening and at night.
In the past 5 years this city has gone from having nothing to do, to having something to do on any given night. Most outsiders though overlook the city and have a bad attitude about the city before they even make it here, and therefore have already decided to be sour. With OKC, you either love it or you hate it, I'm one of the former.
dfwrevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 962 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1868 times:
OKC >>>>> Idaho
Take my advice with a grain of salt since I have not lived in either place for an extended duration, but I'm of the opinion that OKC is an underrated place to live. I would not mind being transferred there if that's where life took me.
I have a friend who graduated from University of Idaho and several who attended Washington State in nearby Pullman, so I used to visit frequently. I have not been for a while, so take this for what it's worth. Moscow and Pullman are small towns with very large universities between farmland and mountains.
The pictures I have seen of Appalachia look similar to what the Palouse (Moscow/Pullman) looks like. More wheat in the Palouse, I would imagine. They have cold, snowy winters, but the main streets stay clear. Horizon does serve Pullman airport but for jet service, there is Spokane (I hate Spokane; see "Worst Place You Have Ever Been" thread) about 2 hours away. Mosow is quiet. It has it's moments, but, overall, a very nice small town.
Airport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1821 times:
Quoting seb146 (Reply 3): The pictures I have seen of Appalachia look similar to what the Palouse (Moscow/Pullman) looks like. More wheat in the Palouse, I would imagine. They have cold, snowy winters, but the main streets stay clear. Horizon does serve Pullman airport but for jet service, there is Spokane (I hate Spokane; see "Worst Place You Have Ever Been" thread) about 2 hours away. Mosow is quiet. It has it's moments, but, overall, a very nice small town.
Completely agreed, especially about Spokane. I've never been around Appalachia, but from everything I've seen, you'll certainly see a lot more similarities in Moscow, Idaho to Appalachia than Oklahoma City. Kind of bizarre, actually, how similar the two regions look considering they're over 2,000 miles apart.
Moscow's not a terrible place, but it's definitely not my cup of tea. I just don't think there's a whole lot to do. I absolutely love Idaho, but the area around Moscow just doesn't do it for me. The one advantage is that if you're into outdoors stuff like skiing, snowboarding, hunting, river-rafting, mountain-biking, and all sorts of stuff like that, Idaho is perfect for you. If you're not into that very much, then you'll probably find yourself twiddling your thumbs a lot in Moscow.
For what it's worth, you could come down to Boise though, where the difference is night and day from Moscow. Very pleasant and seasonal climate, tons of sunshine, an hour away from some of the best outdoors stuff you can do in the US, and there's excellent restaurants and endless fun stuff to do in the city. At least for me there's no better place in the US. Hope that helps!
Venus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1772 times:
I have lived in the OKC area since 1993 and have lived in the Moore Norman area and the NW part of OKC Nichols Hills. Compared to what it was back in the early 80's OKC has turned into a very cosmopolitian city than the cow town it was known to be. OKC has the bohemian art district called Paseo or Cosmopolitian area of NW Western Avenue. Bricktown has some great clubs. Yes the overall politics is very red conservative for the state but the city is usally like any other city.
Here is a link of editorially liberal paper but it is a good place to look for local shows,art,entertainment, and dining. http://www.okgazette.com/
USAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1845 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1756 times:
I went to Washington State University (8 miles west in Pullman, WA as previously mentioned) and loved the experience. I still visit the Pullman/Moscow area regularly, living in the Boise area now.
Moscow has a population of about 25,000 and Pullman's is 35,000. You have 2 high-level research universities and all the benefits they bring within a small area. It's a very unique setting. Though Pullman has a larger population, the better retail and dining options are found in Moscow because of the lower minimum wage and taxes in Idaho. Moscow has a mall, though it's fairly pathetic. You'll find most of what you need in the area though. I managed for 4 years just fine, and I'm not a small town guy. Moscow is overall a nice little town, with a decent downtown area for its size. Some good coffeeshops and local stores, restaurants, whatnot. I enjoyed it.
Lewiston, ID is about 40 minutes south on US-95. The city is larger, and will give you a bit more in terms of retail and shopping. Spokane has a population of roughly 205,000 and is an hour and 45 minutes north of Moscow. Despite being a dirty, rundown city for the most part, it has a couple of good malls, and you'll probably make a trip every 6 weeks or so, That seems about average for WSU/UI students.
Moscow is considered liberal for Idaho, and is sort of an artsy town, if you're into that kind of thing. There are tons of lakes, trails, and whatnot in eastern Washington and north Idaho. The options are limitless if you're an outdoor enthusiast, and skiing is not far away at Mt. Spokane. The summers are hot and dry, the fall is beautiful, winters cold and snowy, and spring is usually mild and wet. I had a great time in the Palouse, and I would recommend it to just about anyone.
TZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2867 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1744 times:
Wow thanks for all the responses, and if there are any more keep them coming. Basically Moscow seems like a west coast version of MGW, which I do hold dearly to my heart, and OKC seems really intriguing. Deciding will definitely be a hard hard thing to do.