JonPaulGeoRngo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1039 times:
There is NO skill in making four left hand turns!
PanAm, I'm with you 100%. I think the one thing I need to do before I go to my great reward is to watch the Monaco race in person from the tunnel section (if that's even possible).
The rear facing cameras were absolutely stunning (first time I've seen those...I've been out of touch for a while). To watch an object literally disappear in the blink of an eye gives the truest sense of speed and appreciation for the skills of these drivers (the kind that make hairpin, left and right turns).
Thankfully, M. Schumacher finished a close second.
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1036 times:
Wow, no skill? Hehehe, I thought that this was one of the better Indy 500 races in years, down to the wire. Couldn't get any better. Man that Monaco Grand Prix was great too! What a great day in racing.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1019 times:
It's a shame to watch the Indy 500 knowing that it's not the best drivers/cars, the CART league is the league that split from Indy a couple years ago to form their own league. It's pool of owners and drivers include legends such as Mario and Michael Andretti, Al Unser jr etc. And the cars the CART drivers have are superior to the Indy racing league's.
Right now Formula 1 is the better league, but if CART and Indy were to settle their differences bringing CARTs cars, drivers, owners and legends to the Indy courses that would bring US open wheel racing back to the level it deserves.
I would rate my favorite CART, Indy, NASCAR, Formula 1 and NHRA tracks as:
Surfer's Paradise, Long Beach, Cleveland Burke Lakefront airport, Sears Point, and Road America Wisconsin?..
Monaco, San Marino?..
Indy racing league:
Indianapolis 500, Texas Motor speedway
Raceway Park Englishtown NJ (because I can literaly walk their).
Ihadapheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1019 times:
PanAm747, I also agree with you 100%, I've loved F1 from the early-mid 70's (Niki Lauda Ferrari) days. thank you know who that I have the Speed Channel on the dish. Speed channel also lets me watch my other favorite form of motor sport WRC, I just wish that they showed more complete stages. I have to agree also on the NASCAR, I can watch it in small amounts, but when you put 35+ cars on a 1 mile track i loose interest fast.
Ihadapheo .. hard left... straight..... hard left...wooden bridge
Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 981 times:
The new cameras and stats are unique to the ABC coverage, which will only be available for Monaco, Montreal, Monza, and Indy this season. Yesterday's coverage was delayed by about 8 hours, so I just watched the good old live TSN coverage. The ABC broadcast also seemed to be time compressed, and edited, especially in terms of the comentators and the footage they chose to show.
There is only one real street circuit in F1 (Monaco), the rest are road circuits, no ovals (thank god).
Saintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 17 hours ago) and read 965 times:
Monaco is not the best grand prix in terms of racing because although visually stunning, overtaking is difficult. It's pretty exciting watching them as they try to overtake and then brake in time for them to take a corner whilst still trying to keep the racing line. Do the racers who drive these oval circuits select cruise control as they go round and round......
Why are there no American based teams in F1 as well?
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 15 hours ago) and read 956 times:
Put it this way, Saintsman, most of the American teams in Indycars use British built cars. Because there is no motor industry to speak of, all the British engineers and designers tend to go into motorsport. Hence the centre of racing car manufacturing is in the UK. Even the so-called Mercedes engine in the MacLaren is in fact designed and built by a small British company - using Mercedes money. It is the same with rallying.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
Spyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 892 times:
Sorry guys but CART rules! While I appreciate how F1 trully is global, its all too much about the car in F-1. Where did the lead change happen in the Monaco race? First lap. That is all too common in F1 and it ends up making the race more of a procession. On any race there are trully only 6 drivers in F1 who can win a race. After seeing what happened between Barichello and Schumacher how can you like F1? CART not only is the fastest racing, but it has numerous lead changes, a varied assortment of different tracks, and at least a dozen drivers can win a CART race. I've been to 2 CART races and loved them both. I guess the true test for the F1 vs. CART race will be when both circuits will race in Montreal on the same circuit. There is will be easy to compare the Canadian Grand Prix and the Molson Indy Montreal.
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 850 times:
For those of you complaining about the Monaco track, keep in mind that it's the one circuit that really gives the underpowered teams a good opportunity to score points. There are very few tracks on the F1 calendar that could have allowed DC to take the win under the circumstances. Not to mention Fisi finishing 5th (2pt) and HHF 6th (1pt), as well as Mark Webber running his Minardi Asiatech at a strong 8th place until a few laps to the end.
In any case, the actual track will be modified in the next few years, which will include a new pit complex, which will actually have some garage space for all teams instead of the off-track storage facilities currently used.
One circuit that will introduce a new layout this year is Hockenheim, the home of the German GP. The changes, which will shorten and slow the track will see most of Hockenheim's trademark "forest straights" cut off, totally ruining the track as far as I'm concerned.
Alessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 834 times:
Well, Hungarian GP is also difficult to overtake. DC is still a winner, even on other tracks, I expect him to win the British GP (his favorite GP). Frentzen arrow isn´t "underpowered" (often with top speed that could compare with
the top teams) but the rest of the car isn´t as good as the top teams.
Hurricane From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 831 times:
Oh yea baby!
I'm with ya all the way National_757! NASCAR rocks! Go 88! Now that's some real racin'! Bumpin' and grindin' 500... sometimes 600 miles all the way to the finish line...and you still get great finishes like this!
But I love F1 and the IRL too...just not as much I guess.
NASCAR fan for life!
Joelo88 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 800 times:
If you want to see the best driving watch F1, cart and world rally. nascar is a little too fabricated for me. it's like they are trying to create artificial competition with the rules. but they have some very good teams and drivers. we just get so bombarded with it in the US that it's easy to get sick of it. give me any motorcycle racing too. those guys have sack!
Go Toyota F1
: National_757: Other than the exhibition races NASCAR had in Japan a few years back, there is rally racing, and that is only on road courses. Other tha
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: ASCAR...very interesting. I hope it survives. Is it in any way sponsored by NASCAR? I noticed the American flag on the logo, and a Chevy Monte Carlo (