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Outsmarted By A Puppy.  
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18675 posts, RR: 58
Posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

I am proud to say that I have three advanced degrees from two very prestigious institutions, 33 years of life experience, a good income, and opposable thumbs.

And I cannot keep my 6mo Labradoodle puppy out of the garbage. I have locking bins of the sort that are usually used to store dog food and she somehow gets them open. Can someone suggest a solution that is puppyproof and doesn't involve complexities like a padlock?

Signed,

Doc "Outsmarted by a 6mo puppy" Lightning

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User currently offlinelowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

As in real estate, we found our solution in, location, location, location. We relocated the garbage can into the cabinet beneath the sink, and secured the door with a simple toddler lock. Our dog could get the door open about 3 inches, enough to get a sniff, but could not get at the can itself. Eventually he lost interest and moved on to drinking from the toilet. We are still working on that one.


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User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

Which trash cans is the puppy getting into? Kitchen, bathroom, the ones that go out to the curb, etc?


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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2541 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2581 times:

I wonder if any SC alumni were ever so outsmarted...

  



Pancakes are delicious.
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18675 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2504 times:

So there really isn't enough space under our sink for garbage and recycling and compost. The compost was solved by gluing rocks to the lid. I think I'm going to go get really huge locking bins tomorrow and put a couple of milkjugs filled with water in the bottom of each one. That way there will be room for the garbage, but she won't be able to tip it over, and if she does get it open, she'll not be able to get very much out.

User currently offlinevaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
And I cannot keep my 6mo Labradoodle puppy out of the garbage

Sounds like the same problem I have with my 11 month old Cavalier King Charles Spaniel...trust me it is and I can see that it will be an ongoing problem for me. Your puppy is much larger than mine.

I know he is being fed enough food and I feed him top of the line food but he still goes after the garbage...lol

I decided to remove my garbage tall flip top can and I now use smaller plastic bags/grocery plastic bags and I put it in the microwave during the day and outside each evening after dinner. For items that are recycled I have a small plastic bin under the sink - I have an elastic cord (bungie) that goes from one handle to the other which has stopped him from getting into it. It is very tight and if tries to get in it usually smacks his nose.

Good Luck!

vaporlock


User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2541 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
So there really isn't enough space under our sink for garbage and recycling and compost. The compost was solved by gluing rocks to the lid. I think I'm going to go get really huge locking bins tomorrow and put a couple of milkjugs filled with water in the bottom of each one. That way there will be room for the garbage, but she won't be able to tip it over, and if she does get it open, she'll not be able to get very much out.

But...but...I baited.

I prodded...I plotted, I planned, I prodded...and I baited...I threw down...I... I... I baited...

*staggers away, confounded*



Pancakes are delicious.
User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4427 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

Quoting Airstud (Reply 6):
I prodded...I plotted, I planned, I prodded...and I baited...I threw down...I... I... I baited...

Doc, how could you not notice his masterful baiting?

You have disappointed me! Too bad the time for the airing of grievances is over.  


User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 930 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2430 times:

You could put the bin on a tallish pole with a slinky, and see if the puppy is similarly confounded as squirrels are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUbwrE02Dpw

On a serious note, is there another room adjacent to the kitchen (ideally something like a cloakroom etc) that the bin could live in with the door closed?


User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Doc "Outsmarted by a 6mo puppy" Lightning

Don't feel too bad, Doc - my dear, departed poodle would outsmart me regularly, and they learn as they get older. They certainly aren't "dumb animals".
 



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User currently offlineAKiss20 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 580 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

Maybe I am underestimating the ability of dogs, but does no one else think that a recessed push-button style lock might do the trick? Humans have individual digits, dog's really don't. If you recess a button deep enough (say maybe an inch and a half) and make the spring stiff enough so a dog's tongue isn't strong enough to push it, I think you might have a decent shot at keeping the little guy outta there.

Just my initial reaction



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2320 times:

What about relocating said containers to a closet or the garage?


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13251 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2242 times:
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Dear Doc,

Are you kidding me?

Signed,



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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Again Dr. Lightning,

I say bricks. Or put it in a closet. Closets can still be wonderful things, no need to fear them anymore.

UAL


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9391 posts, RR: 27
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2226 times:
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Quoting Airstud (Reply 3):
I wonder if any SC alumni were ever so outsmarted...

That would be a negative. My year-old puppy has not outsmarted me!

He has, however, out-witted, outran, outplayed, out-many-other-thing-ed me.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18675 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 10):
Maybe I am underestimating the ability of dogs, but does no one else think that a recessed push-button style lock might do the trick? Humans have individual digits, dog's really don't. If you recess a button deep enough (say maybe an inch and a half) and make the spring stiff enough so a dog's tongue isn't strong enough to push it, I think you might have a decent shot at keeping the little guy outta there.

Where can I get such a product?


User currently offlineAKiss20 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 580 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
Where can I get such a product?

I said I thought it would work, not that it exists  

Let the record show that I came up with this idea, Doc if I see you making big $$s from it in 5 months, you got a lawsuit on your butt 



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User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2629 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

Solution..... a 4th Advanced Degree.

signed....Puppy!!!  


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4841 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

Here is an idea that worked for us.
Go to Radio Shack and buy one of those battery powered door alarms. Stick the alarm on the side of the garbage can. Stick the other half of the alarm on the side of the lid. Arm the alarm.

Whenever the dog pops the lid on the garbage can the alarm noise will scare him away. It only takes two or three times for your pup to learn that the garbage can makes bad noises if it's disturbed. Those alarms cost $10-15.00. Well worth it.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18675 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 16):

Let the record show that I came up with this idea, Doc if I see you making big $$s from it in 5 months, you got a lawsuit on your butt

I'm Jewish. Half my family are lawyers. Don't try that. It won't be pretty.  


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 18):


Not a bad idea, though, if Doc's dog is like mine were when they were pups (one is now 13, the other put down at 12 in April), the trash thing happens at night.

Doc, you need a trash can that is heavy (so the dog doesn't tip it) and that has a heavy foot pedal to operate. I'm guessing a Home Depot or Lowes would have something along those lines. Target may have some high end, stainless steel ones that will work. I have a foot pedal one that my son, when he was 3, had issues with. Expect to pay $60+.

You're looking for something with 'commercial' or 'heavy duty' in the description.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18675 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 20):
I'm guessing a Home Depot or Lowes would have something along those lines.

Guess again. Nothing where the lid locks to the bin. All of their lids can be easily knocked off. I can put a coupla milk jugs of water in the bottom to keep it from tipping, but the lid needs to lock.


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21):
Guess again. Nothing where the lid locks to the bin. All of their lids can be easily knocked off. I can put a coupla milk jugs of water in the bottom to keep it from tipping, but the lid needs to lock.

Get one where the lid is part of the can.

Something like this:

http://www.target.com/simplehuman-st.../B000EGLYNC/ref=sc_qi_detailbutton



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User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4841 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

I think you are taking the wrong path with this problem. You need to teach the dog to leave the garbage can alone vs just trying to keep him out of it.
Locking lid or not if a dog wants to get into a garbage can, he will. You need to set up a negative reinforcement so that he learns not to get into the can in the first place.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18675 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 23):
I think you are taking the wrong path with this problem. You need to teach the dog to leave the garbage can alone vs just trying to keep him out of it.
Locking lid or not if a dog wants to get into a garbage can, he will. You need to set up a negative reinforcement so that he learns not to get into the can in the first place.

There isn't a negative reinforcement that I can arrange that works. I already tried spraying the contents of the garbage with "bitter yuck." Didn't work.

So what I am trying to do is teach her that there's nothing in there that she can have, so stop trying.


25 baguy : I tell you, Labradoodles are conniving little buggers! They're so clever! Is yours Curly or Shaggy? BAguy
26 Post contains images airportugal310 : That is correct. I have a 3yr old Basenji, and they are very intelligent dogs. They do not take NO for an answer, and will always try a new method. H
27 type-rated : But your dog's nose is telling her otherwise. For the life of me I can't figure out why you aren't listening to what people are telling you. I gave y
28 Post contains images tugger : Doc, I can only offer and second the following suggestion: We've had this trash can for 8 years now and it is still a great trash can, still shiny an
29 Post contains images fridgmus : Great Line Doc!!! (and true too!)
30 DocLightning : I missed it. Thanks, that's a really good idea. But I think I'm going to swing for the $100 trashcan. I feel like a chump, but...
31 Post contains images AKiss20 : You're a gay Jewish doctor with no kids, aren't you the definition of disposable income?
32 DocLightning : Yes, except the Jewish part. That bit of me doesn't like disposing of it. Especially for... disposal.
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