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Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?  
User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 903 times:

Check out the link below:

http://www.ananova.com/sport/story/sm_596423.html?menu=

What a surprise if he does go back!


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 883 times:

This is fascinating! It hasn't even started yet and this been the most enjoyable World Cup in years! Big grin


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User currently offlineVulindlela From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 473 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 875 times:

If Keane does not play both he and McCarthy will regret it. (unless Ireland actually do well without him, then only Keane will regret it).


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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 869 times:
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No way pedro!!! He ain't going back now, hot head keane has blown it already.
I'll run naked down oxford street if keane is allowed back into the irish squad! Big grin

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User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 861 times:

Arsenal, Oxford street is a pretty long street and pretty crowded as well  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 857 times:

No, he's talking about the nickname for a small path in the Peak District where no-one ever goes.  Big grin

The Irish players have rejected Keane's return:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/rep_of_ireland/newsid_2011000/2011673.stm

Let's have a straw poll here: Is Keane a prat or not?

I say definite prat.



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User currently offlineEi 168 From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 855 times:

He is no prat!! Keane got the players that ticket to Japan! I think its a disgrace that the players have acted so selfish!! If you listen to that interview on the telly, keane had no choice to use words of that nature! He was backed into a corner! He was called a liar by McCarthy. He was accused of faking an injury! BRING BACK KEANE!!!!!

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 853 times:

Roy Keane is alleged to have said to McCarthy:

"How dare you call a f****** meeting behind my back you c***, you were a crap player and you are are a crap manager, the only reason I have anything to do with you is because you are somehow the Irish manger, and you are not even f****** Irish, you English c***".

Now, try saying that to your boss, and see where it gets you. As for McCarthy not being Irish (he was born in England to Irish parents), Keane's children were born in England and his wife's English, does he have the same opinion of them?

No, the arrangements by the FAI may have been poor, but McCarthy himself has complained about that on numerous occasions. There is no justification for Keane's outburst. The fact that the players don't want him back speaks volumes. He has let his country down.



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User currently offlineEi 168 From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 852 times:

Have you looked at the interview Banco?? I dont think you have, because you will see that keane didnt call him an english c***.

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 847 times:

Yes, I've seen the interview, but the above is what Keane is supposed to have said at the training ground during the argument. Now, where this came from originally I have no idea, but it has been doing the rounds in the papers. It may be true, it may not (which is why I used "allegedly"), but it has had heavy coverage.

What is true is that the other players have spoken about their shock at the language used towards McCarthy by Keane. It seems pretty clear that the players do not want him back, and since he did this interview but refused to apologise, it smacks of Keane trying to garner the sympathy vote.

As I said, on the issue of the facilities, he may well have had a point - and McCarthy has gone on record before criticising the FAI, but it would be a mistake for anyone to compare the FAI with the considerably richer FA and what they arrange for England. Nevertheless, his behaviour meant that his sacking from the squad was inevitable. What would you have McCarthy do? Just take the abuse and carry on? The manager has to be in charge. As with any job, you may disagree or dislike the person in charge, but if you tell them exactly what you think of them there is only going to be one outcome. Even Keane admitted that McCarthy had no choice but to send him home.



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 845 times:

Oh, damn, I forgot to mention, EI168. I am English, but I'm not remotely offended by what Keane said - nor is anyone else I know, so please don't think that is why I'm making the point above.


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User currently offlineEi 168 From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 842 times:

Bad language happens week in and week out in football. So as for the players thats a non-issue!! I agree, keane did say that McCarthy was right to send him home! Just think this though, Would you be happy in work if all your collegues were bought up on front of you and you were picked on by your boss. I dont think you would be and neither would anybody else.

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 838 times:

Well, I guess it comes down to who you believe. Keane certainly feels that MCarthy's intention was to give him a dressing down in public, but McCarthy and the other staff strenuously deny that was the case. The two of them have had a difficult relationship for years certainly. When Keane initially walked out, McCarthy is supposed to have asked what the problem was, even querying whether it was him, to which Keane replied that it wasn't.

As for bad language being part and parcel of it, yes I agree, but it does raise the issue as to why the players felt that it was the worst they had ever heard. From their comments (the nearest thing we'll get to a neutral point of view in all of this) it does seem that the whole tirade was out of the norm - or beyond the pale to use a (somewhat appropriate, all things considered!) Irish term!

How do you feel about the other players condemning Keane? About four of them are supposed (that word again - there's very little certain in all of this) to have said they will walk out if he returns. This is a very difficult situation, and overall the Irish team are the loser, however it turns out.



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User currently offlineAMSMAN From Ireland, joined Jan 2002, 1016 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 835 times:

Didnt he openly say that he wouldnt go back "in a million years"?


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User currently offlineEi 168 From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 833 times:

I feel its disgraceful in this day and age that they cant put there differences behind them. As for the 4 players, I think Keane is worth 4 of those players and I would be willing to sacrafice them for Keane. I know you probably dont agree with this, but the general feeling is that in Ireland!!

User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 832 times:

Football is supposed to be a team game and Keane is not a team player. It's all about him and nobody else. You see it all the time with him. The red mist clouds his eyes and he doesn't give a damn about the consequences to himself or whatever team he is playing for. No doubting his talent but he's still a nutter.

If his own team-mates don't want him back what does that really say about him?


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 830 times:

Interesting point, EI168. Personally, I don't greatly care, apart from a mild desire to see Ireland do well. But I am interested in your comment about what the Irish people think about all of this. I've heard contradictory reports about them backing both parties. Are you saying that they back Keane, or that they just have desire to see him back in the squad regardless? If it's the former, then McCarthy is surely a dead man walking anyway.


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User currently offlineEi 168 From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 828 times:

After the Interview last night it seems to have swung in keane's favour!! I saw a poll last nite on Irish television which stated that 95% are in favour of him being reinstated in the squad. McCarthy is giving an interview to the press at 12pm. Personally I think the Irish media are going to take him to the scrap yard.

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 823 times:

The plot thickens!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/rep_of_ireland/newsid_2012000/2012238.stm

This is turning into a disaster for the Irish team in terms of morale, on top of losing a world class player.



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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 819 times:
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I cant see how they will let him back into the squad. The players will walk out in protest if he's allowed in again. But i stand by my vow, i'll do what i said in my first post! Big grin

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User currently offlineEi 168 From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 816 times:

I cant see him come back now! It will need a miralcle! Having said that the bookies in Ireland have shortened the odds of McCarthy getting the sack before Saturday! That will be a disaster if that happens.

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 813 times:

Unless Keane is prepared to apologise, it's going to be one or t'other, I'm afraid.

Quinn looked close to tears in the press conference.



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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 813 times:
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There was also some stuff in the daily mirror today about Quinn and Robbie Keane exchanging punches during a training session. It's madness in the irish camp!!  Nuts

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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 23, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 802 times:

The game against Cameroon is going to be fun. One side at each others throats, and the other hopelessly jet-lagged and whingeing about money. I predict a 9-9 draw! Big grin


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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 800 times:
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But all this is sweet music to England's ears! While everyone at the world cup start to really lose the plot, maybe England can take some sort of advantage?

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25 Post contains links Ei 168 : This story is getting more interesting by the hour!! http://irelandlive.sports.com/football/news/2002/05/28/sLON01MTAyMjU5NzQwOTg.html Hopefully every
26 Banco : If they really can pull this off (and for Ireland's sake let's hope so) morale will rocket - provided they really can bury the hatchet and not in each
27 David_itl : Keane's going nowhere! He's literally just this minute issued a statement that in the interests of the team, he won't go back David/MAN
28 Banco : Why do I find it hard to believe that this is the end of the matter? Am I being overly cynical to believe that Keane will await the public begging him
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