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Best Time To Visit Deep South America?  
User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1972 posts, RR: 9
Posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3407 times:

Hello

My fiancee and I will be traveling in South America for one month for our Honeymoon and we'd ideally like to go some time before or after the southern hemisphere's winter.

In no particular order, we plan to visit:

- Colombia (Bogota and Cartagenta - where I grew up)
- Peru (Machu Picchu)
- Chile (Santiago - for a wedding)
- Argentina (Buenos Aires and either another city or Patagonia)
- Brazil (Rio and another city in the northeast)

Can anyone say when the best time between late May and late September might be to go, both weather wise as well as to avoid crowds of tourists and high prices?

Would also appreciate people's thoughts on:

- Best way to fly around (e.g. LAN's South America Pass, etc)
- Best way to get there from Singapore

For the latter, I've considered QR to EZE, which is SGD3,500 per person (high!) or Star Alliance or One World's RTW tickets at SGD6,000 per person (too high!). Perhaps MH via KUL and JNB?

Ideas welcome!

Cheers
Coal


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User currently offlinefuturepilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3407 times:

I thought you meant the American Deep South because my answer would have been NEVER!!!

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
Brazil (Rio and another city in the northeast)

What I would give to get a ticket to Rio, just to check out the Beaches and Ladies.



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User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):

If I may add a question, where and when could you go to take a ferry to Antartica?


User currently offlineAeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3394 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
Argentina (Buenos Aires and either another city or Patagonia)

Well having just gotten back from Argentina yesterday I can tell you that the heat in Buenos Aires was very strong however relatives have told me that it has gotten much better. I was Also in Villa Carlos Paz the town where my grandmother lives and it was much cooler there. The Town is about a 40 minute drive from Cordoba and during the summer it is packed with domestic tourism there was definitely a lot of activity going around. It is very rare to see foreigners in fact as I spoke English on my cellphone a little kid was staring at me and getting his fathers attention as well.

Prices in Carlos Paz are quite a bit cheaper for some things compared to the heavy international tourism areas.

I hope this helps!

Аэрофлот001


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

Colombia, Peru and Brazil you can visit any time mostly, it never gets under 10C in a pesistent way except the very high altitudes (since you mentioned Machu Picchu), then again being in the high Andes it will always be cool. Bogota is altitude cool but never cold and the equatorial sun heats you up, most of the rest of Colombia is tropical. Lima is cool in the mornings and nice in the day. Brazil is Brazil, an equatorial tropical country. From Sao Paulo north is almost always warm.

More important than the temperatures is the rainy / dry season cycles. They depend on the the country so I would ask people familiar with the patterns in those countries. Santiago is nice most of the year as the Pacific influences the weather, the winter is rather cold in the mornings but it warms in the afternoon a bit. It rarely snows.

Argentina is trickier, Buenos Aires can be cloudy, dreary, and damp in the winter. It's never bitterly cold but because of the dampness and rain it can get miserable for walking around in June, July, August, which is one of the delights of the city (and cafe people watching). Sometimes very cold wind will blow (pamperos) with cold days. Mendoza, which is a city many chose is cold in winter, some afternoons it willl warm up a bit but expect very cold spells of minus -10C weather and snowfall (even colder as in -20C in the outskirts), because of the more continental climate.

Patagonia in general is defenitely a NO in winter. Many attractions are closed, even some hotels; some National Parks are also limited in access as people can get lost, people have died of exposure in the snow and bitter cold winds of the roaring 40s. Expect road closures do to snow and thus bus and airplane delays. EXCEPTION: if you are flying straight into ski resort towns like Bariloche, Esquel, Angostura, San Martin de los Andes, Las Lenas, etc to ski... or if you are going whale watching along the Welsh coast in Chubut in June when the southern right whales return from Antarctica.

In general if the goal is to see Buenos Aires confortably and enjoy the walking city, to visit Mendoza and the vineyards with above freezing weather, and to travel Patagonia hassle free and not freeze to death, October to May is the best time.

ps - Buenos Aires can get oppressive in January / February, and Mendoza very hot (dry), and Argentina is on vacation at the beach, the mountains or overseas in January so the cities will be fairly empty. So if you are not tolerant to heat waves, avoid those two months.

[Edited 2011-01-04 21:07:27]


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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3374 times:

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 2):
If I may add a question, where and when could you go to take a ferry to Antartica?

Ushuaia is the port of call unless you are in a cruise from another destination. December-March is the season I think.



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User currently offlinebgm From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3356 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
My fiancee and I
Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 1):
check out the Beaches and Ladies

Hmmm?  


User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2725 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
Best way to get there from Singapore

How about LAN's SYD-AKL-SCL? and take QF from SIN.

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 3145 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3300 times:

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 7):
How about LAN's SYD-AKL-SCL? and take QF from SIN.

Or QF's SIN-SYD and then SYD-EZE non-stop, much better option flight time wise.

Saludos,



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User currently offlinetarheelwings From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3296 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
Can anyone say when the best time between late May and late September might be to go, both weather wise as well as to avoid crowds of tourists and high prices?

Not sure if it's been addressed specifically but just in case, if you're going between May and September you'll be going in the dead of winter. The seasons are reversed in the Southern Hemisphere so Winter begins March 21 and ends September 21.


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

Quoting tarheelwings (Reply 9):
Not sure if it's been addressed specifically but just in case, if you're going between May and September you'll be going in the dead of winter. The seasons are reversed in the Southern Hemisphere so Winter begins March 21 and ends September 21.

Yes, it's been adressed.   

Just to be correct, not trying to be picky, the winter begins on June 20th. March 21 is the start of fall and actually a very nice time to visit Argentina, not torridly midsummer hot, not midwinter chill.



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3249 times:

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 2):
If I may add a question, where and when could you go to take a ferry to Antartica?

There aren't any ferries because the only permanent settlements there are scientific ones. There are cruises that leave from Ushuaia, however.


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8929 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
- Colombia (Bogota and Cartagenta - where I grew up)
- Peru (Machu Picchu)
- Chile (Santiago - for a wedding)
- Argentina (Buenos Aires and either another city or Patagonia)
- Brazil (Rio and another city in the northeast)

Can anyone say when the best time between late May and late September might be to go, both weather wise as well as to avoid crowds of tourists and high prices?

Definitely plan around Machu Pichu and Argentina, Brazil is pretty much the same any of those months, especially where you will be going (good timing too btw, it's still plenty warm but not as hot as summer, and you avoid travel season of december through carnival).

As for the city in the northeast, if all you're looking for is beaches I'd recommend going to the island of Fernando de Noronha (romantic too, but not in the take her out to a fancy dinner way. . . more like in the isolated island/beaches way). If you want a more cultural experience, then you have to stick to the continent (you can find very nice beaches there too).

TAM has an airpass too, but make sure to read the rules carefully. I'd imagine the same is true for LAN's airpass.



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User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1972 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

Quoting Aeroflot001 (Reply 3):
I was Also in Villa Carlos Paz the town where my grandmother lives and it was much cooler there. The Town is about a 40 minute drive from Cordoba and during the summer it is packed with domestic tourism there was definitely a lot of activity going around.

Sounds like a nice place. I will look into it, thanks.

Quoting Aeroflot001 (Reply 3):
It is very rare to see foreigners in fact as I spoke English on my cellphone a little kid was staring at me and getting his fathers attention as well.

Ha! That's how I feel when I travel for business in China's 2nd or 3rd tier cities, admittedly I don't even need to speak to warrant attention. But I speak fluent Spanish, so it should be OK for us, although my fiancee is Chinese, so many she will get the stares!

Quoting Derico (Reply 4):
More important than the temperatures is the rainy / dry season cycles.

That's true, but a lot of that is changing. Colombia's rainy season is normally June and July (Los Paramos de San Juan), but they've had terrible weather in December, when it is usually very sunny in Bogota (pretty much the only month of the year during which you can see blue skies in the city).

Quoting Derico (Reply 4):
Argentina is trickier, Buenos Aires can be cloudy, dreary, and damp in the winter. It's never bitterly cold but because of the dampness and rain it can get miserable for walking around in June, July, August, which is one of the delights of the city (and cafe people watching). Sometimes very cold wind will blow (pamperos) with cold days. Mendoza, which is a city many chose is cold in winter, some afternoons it willl warm up a bit but expect very cold spells of minus -10C weather and snowfall (even colder as in -20C in the outskirts), because of the more continental climate.

Thanks. We're definitely going to avoid going there during the winter. I think we might push for mid-Spring. How is the weather and the tourist crowds around late November?

Quoting Derico (Reply 4):
Patagonia in general is defenitely a NO in winter. Many attractions are closed, even some hotels; some National Parks are also limited in access as people can get lost, people have died of exposure in the snow and bitter cold winds of the roaring 40s. Expect road closures do to snow and thus bus and airplane delays. EXCEPTION: if you are flying straight into ski resort towns like Bariloche, Esquel, Angostura, San Martin de los Andes, Las Lenas, etc to ski... or if you are going whale watching along the Welsh coast in Chubut in June when the southern right whales return from Antarctica.

Good to know! After reading your advice, I think we will go later in the year.

Quoting Derico (Reply 4):
ps - Buenos Aires can get oppressive in January / February, and Mendoza very hot (dry), and Argentina is on vacation at the beach, the mountains or overseas in January so the cities will be fairly empty. So if you are not tolerant to heat waves, avoid those two months.

We've lived mostly in Singapore, so are more than adaptable to horribly hot weather   

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 7):
How about LAN's SYD-AKL-SCL? and take QF from SIN.
Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 7):
Or QF's SIN-SYD and then SYD-EZE non-stop, much better option flight time wise.

We prefer Star Alliance and might have to stop over in southern Germany on the way back, plus we might buy one of the tickets with SQ miles. Although I understand LA's South America Pass is priced based on a LA or other OneWorld ticket arriving into South America, right?

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 12):
As for the city in the northeast, if all you're looking for is beaches I'd recommend going to the island of Fernando de Noronha (romantic too, but not in the take her out to a fancy dinner way. . . more like in the isolated island/beaches way). If you want a more cultural experience, then you have to stick to the continent (you can find very nice beaches there too).

Thanks. My friend and former colleague is from Salvador and told me the Carnival there is the best    If we had to pick one city, and are looking more for culture (we get enough of the beach in SE Asia), which one would you choose: Recife? Salvador? Fortaleza? Natal? Others?

Thanks!

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3158 times:

As far as price goes, if you go in the North American/Hemisphere summer, you are guaranteed some of the lowest prices. During the daytime, it was around 55-65 degrees F in Buenos Aires and Santiago Chile when I was there, and the flights were incredibly cheap. Perfect weather when we have had 105F temps in the US during the summer.

Good luck!


User currently offlinetarheelwings From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3154 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 10):
Just to be correct, not trying to be picky, the winter begins on June 20th.

You are correct   ....I meant to say Fall starts in March and Winter ends in September. Also, I've been to both Buenos Aires and Santiago in early Fall and agree that it's a great time of the year to visit two fabulous cities.


User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Quoting Coal (Reply 13):

That's true, but a lot of that is changing. Colombia's rainy season is normally June and July (Los Paramos de San Juan), but they've had terrible weather in December, when it is usually very sunny in Bogota (pretty much the only month of the year during which you can see blue skies in the city).

Yes but this time around it seems it's because of La Niña effect... it's been tremendous! Worst rainy season I have memory of.

In theory when El Niño strikes it's going to be the opposite... pure dry season! (hopefully not another electricity rationing like in 1992).

By the time you're supposed to come it should be normal... but who knows. I can tell you being here that the last two weeks have been milder, sporadic rain here and there but nothing like the weeks before those.



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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

Quoting Coal (Reply 13):
Thanks. We're definitely going to avoid going there during the winter. I think we might push for mid-Spring. How is the weather and the tourist crowds around late November?

Like I said it's not bitterly cold, highs from 50 to 60F on nice days, however mixed with days of colder weather. If you don't mind the dampness, you are good. I just say that based on experience, tourists even from cold countries like to be confortable or expect 75F weather. Won't happen. The nights will be cold regardless.

Late november is fantastic actually. It will be warm but not torrid, and the cities will be buzzing with late year stuff and holiday shopping, lots of events krank up also at that time, since the ''concert'' season for international bands, theater, etc, starts then. And Patagonia is for sure thawing fast at that time (weatherwise and activity wise).



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8929 posts, RR: 40
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

Quoting Coal (Reply 13):
Thanks. My friend and former colleague is from Salvador and told me the Carnival there is the best    If we had to pick one city, and are looking more for culture (we get enough of the beach in SE Asia), which one would you choose: Recife? Salvador? Fortaleza? Natal? Others?

Salvador would definitely be it   



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