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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15729 posts, RR: 26
Posted (3 years 7 months 8 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Rahm Emanuel was ruled ineligible to run for Chicago mayor since he has not resided in the city for a year before the election. But here is the caveat: an exception to the residency rule is made for "national service." Call me crazy, but I would suggest that serving as chief of staff to the president most certainly qualifies as national service, but the court for some reason uses a narrower definition.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/01/...g-court-tosses-emanuel-off-ballot/


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User currently onlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 8 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

And yet Hillary qualified to run for the senate in NY despite having been in Washington for most of the 90's

Go figure.......



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 7 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

Quoting alberchico (Reply 1):
Hillary



Rhambo has a few more enemies in Chicago than Hillary did in NY. Somehow all this is tied to the Daley family.... I smell a fishy ...

Daley replaces Rhambo .... as COS for Obama and Rhambo gets axed off the ballot ...seems the President has changed up his circles a bit in my opinion. Rhambo is too close to the Clinton's for Obama in 2012 ... I was shocked to see him in the administration to begin with. Not surprised Obama is aligning to a new group of politicos from Chicago.



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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6314 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 7 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

Me thinks some Chicago judge(s) want(s) a payoff...

User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8219 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 7 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

The court's decision is a bit queer. WHile it is targeted at one individual it may adversely impact others in the future.

As such the decision can lead to a reduction in a reduction in national service, which is the opposite of where we should be going.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 7 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Quoting alberchico (Reply 1):
And yet Hillary qualified to run for the senate in NY despite having been in Washington for most of the 90's

Go figure.......

Exactly, I am not the biggest Emanuel fan but I don't get this at all. Something is up. He should be eligble to run.


User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 7 hours ago) and read 1919 times:

Oh great this makes Carol Mosely(what income tax?) Brown the front runner. Are you telling me in a city of over 2 million there are not any other descent canidates. Or any others who can afford to pay for play. I rather vote for Hugo Chavez than her.


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User currently onlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8123 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 7 hours ago) and read 1919 times:

Quoting sw733 (Reply 3):
Me thinks some Chicago judge(s) want(s) a payoff...

Or they don't want a Jew running a town that still thinks it's Irish-Catholic?? Just a thought...



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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1551 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 7 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

I fully expect appeals to the State Supreme Court, and perhaps even SCOTUS. But here's a thought. Emmanuel can start a huge write in campaign. It might just work.

Marc


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 6):
Oh great this makes Carol Mosely



Ah yes ... I forgot . Now that is interesting ... she has a interesting past . Very very left wing like Obama ... and his circles in Chicago. Community reinvestment act ... Rezco development stuff and of course ACORN . Oh well ... elections have consequences .

I sense a war coming with the Clinton's .... Mrs. Braun threw Billy Clinton right under the bus a few weeks ago ..and took away his first black President title .



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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21555 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 8):
Emmanuel can start a huge write in campaign. It might just work.

There is the drawback that his name isn't the easiest to spell (the way you did it is, in fact, wrong). And if you think the fight in Alaska over Murkowski was bad, imagine what it would be in Chicago's political system.

-Mir



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User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1887 times:
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Quoting alberchico (Reply 1):
And yet Hillary qualified to run for the senate in NY despite having been in Washington for most of the 90's

Go figure.......


The rule for senator's, or any other elected official, eligibility is set by the states. RFK was also a senator from New York, but didn't live there.

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 8):
Emmanuel can start a huge write in campaign. It might just work.

Either way, he couldn't be seated because he isn't eligible.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 7):
Or they don't want a Jew running a town that still thinks it's Irish-Catholic?? Just a thought...


Or the fact that he doesn't meet the legal requirements to run. These laws aren't new, they have been on the books for a long time.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 8):
I fully expect appeals to the State Supreme Court, and perhaps even SCOTUS. But here's a thought. Emmanuel can start a huge write in campaign. It might just work

He is so popular I don't see him not becoming Mayor.

[Edited 2011-01-24 12:49:25]

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15729 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 4):
The court's decision is a bit queer. WHile it is targeted at one individual it may adversely impact others in the future.

Exactly. I see no logical way in which being Chief of Staff could not be considered national service.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 11):
Or the fact that he doesn't meet the legal requirements to run. These laws aren't new, they have been on the books for a long time.

But the law says that there is an exception for national service. Again, how is being chief of staff not national service?



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1865 times:

The Ruling:
http://media.myfoxchicago.com/electi...ahm-emanuel-appellate-decision.pdf

Emanuel to appeal ruling on Chicago mayor's race
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110124/..._on_go_ot/us_chicago_mayor_emanuel



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User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1864 times:
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Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):
But the law says that there is an exception for national service. Again, how is being chief of staff not national service?

I do see that as national service, but the court may see national service as serving in the armed forces or Peace Corps. His job was purely optional, he didn't have to take it. Someone in the miltary that has orders to be someplace else is a different story.



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User currently onlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 8):
Emmanuel can start a huge write in campaign. It might just work.

with less than a month to go till election day ?

Quoting falstaff (Reply 11):
The rule for senator's, or any other elected official, eligibility is set by the states. RFK was also a senator from New York, but didn't live there.

simply because some states allow it dosen't mean it isn't carpetbagging....



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15729 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1852 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 15):
but the court may see national service as serving in the armed forces or Peace Corps.

Obviously they do, but what I haven't seen is why this is any different from being Chief of Staff.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 15):
His job was purely optional,

So is joining the all volunteer armed forces.



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User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1850 times:
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Quoting alberchico (Reply 16):
simply because some states allow it dosen't mean it isn't carpetbagging....


It is carpetbagging that is for sure!

For those of you who don't know what that term means: It was was a slang term that came out of the reconstructionist south after the civil war. A carpetbag was a suit case; meaning that outsiders were coming into the south after the war and running for office. The suitcase reference meant they were from out of town.

Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
There is the drawback that his name isn't the easiest to spell (the way you did it is, in fact, wrong).

Maybe Chicago voters can just write in "Dead Fish"  



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User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1846 times:
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Quoting BMI727 (Reply 17):
So is joining the all volunteer armed forces

It is, but they decide where you go.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12423 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 18):
Maybe Chicago voters can just write in "Dead Fish"

Most Chicago voters don't do their writing because they are already "Dead Fish"! 



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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6314 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 15):
or Peace Corps. His job was purely optional

Peace Corps is purely optional. When is the last time you heard someone joining PC and going to Wyoming? It's always abroad...they know they will be dispatched abroad, unlike the military where it's not always the case.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15729 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 19):
It is, but they decide where you go.

Nobody joins the armed forces without expecting to move.



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User currently onlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

national service has always been traditionally defined as military service so I see no reason why an exemption should be made in this case. The fact that there are so few good candidates shows the stifling of local politics under the political machine of the Daley family.

[Edited 2011-01-24 12:51:58]


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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5390 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 5 hours ago) and read 1787 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):
Again, how is being chief of staff not national service?

I don't buy that being COS for a president is national service. He wasn't the COS for the country, he was COS for a man. That the man happened to be President of The United States is of no consequence.

Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
There is the drawback that his name isn't the easiest to spell (the way you did it is, in fact, wrong). And if you think the fight in Alaska over Murkowski was bad, imagine what it would be in Chicago's political system.

Does Chicago have a "you must spell the name absolutely correctly law"?

Quoting falstaff (Reply 11):
Either way, he couldn't be seated because he isn't eligible.

If he's not eligible to run ofiicially, I would assume he is not eligible to be on the ballot, at all.



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25 Mir : Who did his paycheck come from? If it came from the US government, then it's national service. I'm sure they could drum one up fairly quickly. -Mir
26 redflyer : He could, but then he couldn't be sworn in because that is the whole issue here - legally he isn't eligible to be mayor. In the big scheme of things,
27 JBirdAV8r : I thought "national service" was even more narrowly defined than "in the military," as in...."drafted into the military." Either way, this is a semant
28 Post contains images Aesma : Why such a strange rule and not something simpler like having lived XX years or XX% of ones life in the city/metropolis ? After all, it's an election,
29 fr8mech : By that criteria, I was in national service when I did some contract work in the early 90's. What about the Social Security recipient? SNAP (welfare)
30 okie : Well, not necessarily, take the time to read the opinion. The law in question states "resides in" not "residence" Why would you have a law that would
31 ltbewr : Rahm comes off like a 'carpetbagger' trying to run for mayor of Chicago, he should have tried to run for a city representative first to show some real
32 Post contains images Superfly : I was thinking the same. Well Chicago has already had 2 Black mayors. LOL! Carol Mosley Braun would be a good mayor for Chicago actually. I say that
33 Venus6971 : I knew there would be a angle to get some love for Gary and Hammond,is there a Walmart or Cosco just over the border yet, but your statement has meri
34 Post contains links and images Superfly : Well of course. Perhaps I should have rephrased my comments and said; Carol Mosley Braun as mayor of Chicago would be good for the greater Chicagolan
35 NIKV69 : Your so right Larry! I do like Rahm though he called the pro left out!
36 Post contains images sw733 : Dude...respect GONE
37 Dreadnought : Disagree. Public service, IMHO is the military or elected office. The COS position is neither. It was just a job - a high profile one to be sure, but
38 BMI727 : Are you kidding? Getting the Olympics would have ruined Chicago financially. So what about cabinet positions? Being a member of the cabinet or chief
39 Dreadnought : Nope. At that point you are still just an appointed employee. Military service or elected office.
40 LON-CHI : If Emanuel is truly out of the race, Gary Chico will pick up a lot of his votes and be the front runner. Ed Burke, probably the second most powerful
41 Post contains images ALTF4 : Ah, good to know, good to know. I can now trump myself as being a part of "national service", whatever that is called. Maybe I'll even put it in my s
42 Post contains images Superfly : I love the Bears as well as the Packers. If this was any other year, I'd route for the hometown team but I just don't want Daley presiding over any S
43 Post contains images ALTF4 : First day in office, I'd get Meigs field on its way back and then resign when it was finished. I'd be the best mayor ever.
44 Ken777 : Rambo is back on the ballot. The State Supreme Court stepped in according to CNN (TV) So, for a while, it's back in the hands of the lawyers instead o
45 Post contains links LON-CHI : That's what the media is thinking... http://www.suntimes.com/3474119-417/...co-emanuel-business-race-rahm.html
46 Superfly : Doesn't matter at this point. Most of the damage that could be done in Chicago already has been done. Rahm will just finish off what Daley couldn't d
47 Venus6971 : "Braun is conceding nothing. She hopes to inherit black and independent white votes that might have gone to President Obama’s former White House ch
48 Post contains links Longhornmaniac : Illinois court issued a stay, Rahm is back on the ballot. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...ssues-stay-rahm-back-on-the-ballot Cheers, Cameron
49 BMI727 : Because Chicago had no way to pay for the venues, etc. to host the Olympics. Not getting them was one of the best things that happened to Chicago.
50 ImperialEagle : He brings tremendous political connections with him. Hopefully, for the good of the citizens of Chicago.
51 Post contains images Superfly : Why is that quote saying I said those thing? No argument there.
52 WarRI1 : You just know that will not happen. It never seems to work that way anywhere.
53 Post contains images Superfly : His "connections" didn't help him as Chief of Staff.
54 WarRI1 : When it comes to politics, connections is a dirty word to me. We just know who will benefit, and it is not us.
55 Aesma : I'm not sure I follow you, what is the harm in having him on the ballot, if the voters don't want him anyway ? I find the ballot rules in the US quit
56 BMI727 : I'm pretty sure he was leading in polls. That's an entirely different thing.
57 Post contains images Superfly : Oh like we really need to have a National Front or Parti communiste. He was way out in front. 20% ahead of his closest rival - Carol Mosley Braun.
58 Aesma : Well, I'm also saying that if people want him, then it seems pretty undemocratic not to allow him to be on the ballot for a stupid reason (if he was
59 Post contains images Superfly : The law as it is written bars Rahm Emanuel from running as a candidate in this election cycle. Why shouldn't the law apply to him? Give it a rest. Am
60 Venus6971 : The question is if Rahm doesn't get the desired result from the ILL SC who becomes Mayor. The Black community will vote as a block for Brown that is a
61 Superfly : Who is "Brown"? I think you meant Braun.
62 okie : Does not matter, Rahm will keep it in court until his 1 year of "resides in" is up. He has his name on the ballot. At that point he would file suit n
63 N1120A : No its not. The guy represented a Chicago district in the House for six years. He was born and raised in Chicago. Hardly a carpetbagger. Actually, it
64 Post contains images Superfly : Which is exactly what Raham Emanuel would be doing. Yes he is from Chicago and represented Chicago but he should have quit his job last year and move
65 Post contains links Yellowstone : Well, he's back on the ballot - the Illinois Supreme Court ruled unanimously that the appellate court erred in overturning the electoral board's initi
66 Superfly : I didn't expect the rule of law to apply to Raham Emanuel.
67 scrubbsywg : the rule of law has applied to him. In this case it went in his favor.
68 Superfly : Amazing what money can buy, isn't it?
69 Venus6971 : Oh Illinois, best govt that money can buy. With still having allot of family who live and work in Chicago I am glad he is still on the ballot and elig
70 Superfly : Which would have been a good thing as I pointed out earlier. Chicago has had a long history of heavyweight mayors but not much of these heavyweights
71 N1120A : Impugning the ethics of a state Supreme Court is kind of stretching. Except that D.C. has taxation without representation, so can anyone really "live"
72 Superfly : ...and had always used their parents or grandparents address when living outside the state. Not the case with Raham Emanuel. So are those 700,000+ re
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