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Chernobyl: The Lost Film  
User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Niger, joined Sep 2009, 239 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

Just found this link to a forgotten video shot 2 or 3 days after the Chernobyl disaster by a Ukrainian director.

Everyone you saw in that video close to the reactor would be dead within a few months , the guys on the roof would have been dead by the end of the day. If i remember 1000 rem is the limit for the human body(in the best conditions) around 200-300 if you got it all at once. Röntgen/h which is the same as rem/h at 30 40 you would have maybe 2 hours before you showed rad sickness, add this to all the alpha, Beta and gamma charged dust and your chances are slim. that dust would be in you for 100s of years. I work freeder inspection on CANDU reactor faces with a full plastic suit complete with air line and multiple dosimeters. The most i ever get is 600mR a jump and that is considered a lot, In one year i might get a total dose of 2 rem.

Some sad shit there yo.


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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2775 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

Sad and scary, too.

I remember when the escaped radiation was expected to arrive on our side of the Atlantic; the news told us we would be experiencing the equivalent of standing in front of a microwave oven for six hours or something like that.



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User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2108 times:

Thanks for sharing this.

A true sad episode of history which unfortunately until this day is very much alive for some people.



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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3838 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

Wow, crazy stuff, what an amazing video. Brings back the memories of going there 3 years ago with a couple of other Airliners.net users.

Soren   



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User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5618 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 2):

A true sad episode of history which unfortunately until this day is very much alive for some people.

I have seen other chronicles, read other accounts.

The people tasked with containing that disaster had to know that they were facing certain death - such bravery. For so many whose lives were not as severely affected, these people were heroes.



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User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

The most shocking image to me was the one filming through the hole in the roof of unit 4 where the chimney is visible - to really be in there...

The technical stuff:

Quoting SepulTALLICA (Thread starter):
Röntgen/h which is the same as rem/h at 30 40 you would have maybe 2 hours before you showed rad sickness

Röntgen/h is a unit of charge dose, 1 R = 0.258 C/kg. Rem is deducted from the rad, 1 rad = 0.01 Gy = 0.01 J/kg, the energy deposited in matter by the radiation. However, with the ionization energy of about 36 J/C, one can get a rough approximation of 1 rad = 1.15 R.

It's even more rem/h, as there was probably a significant part of alpha radiation included in the dust which has a relative biological impact of 20, which means that 1 Gy_alpha = 20 Sv equivalent dose (the modern units, 1 Gy = 100 rad, 1 Sv = 100 rem). Alpha radiation is not much of a problem if you sit in front of a solid block of uranium, as the attenuation in tissue is very strong and the radiation won't reach further than the very top layers of your skin. However, dust is inhaled and ingested, so you have the radiation right there in your body, killing you from the inside.

Kudos to those brave liquidators.



WARNING! The post above should be taken with a grain of salt! Furthermore, it may be slightly biased towards A.
User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5755 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Quoting sccutler (Reply 4):
The people tasked with containing that disaster had to know that they were facing certain death - such bravery.

I agree. The captions in the video say they had no idea what they were getting into, but the looks on their faces say otherwise. They knew they wouldn't make it out alive, at least for very long. It's the reason why they didn't even bother wearing the surgical/gas masks they were given.... they knew it wouldn't help any.


A sad day, 25 years ago.



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User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5186 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 3):
Wow, crazy stuff, what an amazing video. Brings back the memories of going there 3 years ago with a couple of other Airliners.net users.

quite surreal seeing the soldiers running about, and knowing 25 years later we were stood in the same spot!



That'll teach you
User currently offlinedragon6172 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

At the 5:55-6:05 mark looks like he films a bird flying and succombing to sickness and crashing into the structure. Maybe I'm seeing things.


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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2843 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1727 times:

There's an interesting blog a woman motorcyclist put together about the area. She occasionally rides through the ghost towns and areas surrounding Chernobyl. Although not the most professional website, her photos are amazing.

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chernobyl-revisited/



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4725 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 9):
There's an interesting blog a woman motorcyclist put together about the area. She occasionally rides through the ghost towns and areas surrounding Chernobyl. Although not the most professional website, her photos are amazing.

IIRC her story is bogus, she drives around in accessible area's and all the shots from inside the safety zone were taken on a tour just like a couple of us a.netters have taken a few years back.



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