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Lady Gaga's New Song "Born This Way"  
User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4504 times:

In other news, Egypt had a revolution today...

Now, LG has a new hit out that sounds a lot like Express Yourself - what do you guys think? Will this become an anthem?

http://www.kikaxemusic.com/news/pop-...gaga-just-release-a-madonna-b-side

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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4100 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4410 times:

The song is actually recorded at Livingroom Studios in Oslo, Norway.

There is a picture pf Lady Gaga in at thr studio in Oslo in this article:

http://www.vg.no/musikk/artikkel.php?artid=10029963


The new song gets 4 dots on the dice by the reviewer


User currently offlineCHEPOS From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6236 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4396 times:

I like the song, catchy and I am almost certain the song will hit number 1 shortly.

Regards.,

Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21882 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4379 times:

Not her worst song, but can't say I'm that into it.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently onlinesan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 4356 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 3):
Not her worst song, but can't say I'm that into it.

I second that. Not a bad song, but I'm not in love with it. Let's see what the whole album has to offer.



Scotty doesn't know...
User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 4348 times:

I think it's her most Madonna-like song. I'd be curious as to what a.net's pink brigade thinks of it! is it really catchy enough to be an anthem?

User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20374 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4289 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 5):
I think it's her most Madonna-like song. I'd be curious as to what a.net's pink brigade thinks of it!

It has to be. Lady Gaga has been, from the outset, one of the music industry's most vocal supporters of gay rights. She's young, 23-24, IIRC and this was her message from day one. She made it clear that she was going to take our cause to the masses and that she was going to be a huge ally. I may not love her music, but she has my deepest respect for her artistic talent... and my deepest gratitude.

Furthermore, Lady Gaga is a drag queen. She's a woman, yes, but she is still a drag queen. (So is Dolly Parton).

Will this join the ranks of "We Are Family" in the gay community? Only time will tell, but it was clearly written as an anthem for us. We'd be ungrateful not to use it.

Thank you, Lady Gaga. I'm glad to know we have a friend and a powerful ally in you.


User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4141 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 6):
Furthermore, Lady Gaga is a drag queen. She's a woman, yes, but she is still a drag queen. (So is Dolly Parton).

I think I know what you mean, but could you please explain? (would Joan Rivers and Bette Midler also qualify?).


User currently onlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4069 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 7):
would Joan Rivers and Bette Midler also qualify?).

Joan Rivers, yes. She's beyond a drag queen even, she's a dime store mannequin. Bette Midler, probably not. Her success has never been predicated much on her image besides her own self-deprecating jokes about her "pretty legs and great big knockers."

I personally am not a fan of the song. It reminds me too much of disco, a genre I'm not particularly fond of, and when I heard the song I just kept wanting to sing "Don't Leave Me This Way'' alone with it.


User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4064 times:

Quoting luckyone (Reply 8):
and when I heard the song I just kept wanting to sing "Don't Leave Me This Way'' alone with it.

Wow, I had that same reaction! There is something in the song that is evocative of other songs, by design, I think.


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4015 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 5):
I think it's her most Madonna-like song. I'd be curious as to what a.net's pink brigade thinks of it! is it really catchy enough to be an anthem?

It definitely has potential... one of those songs that it takes a few listens to really connect to, but once you do, you can't get it out of your head... not unlike her "Telephone" song.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 6):
Will this join the ranks of "We Are Family" in the gay community? Only time will tell, but it was clearly written as an anthem for us. We'd be ungrateful not to use it.

Elton John says he thinks it's going to be the new "I will survive"... not sure about that, but it's definitely another massive hit in the making.

LG is awesome. Going to see her for the first time in Oakland next month!



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20374 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3991 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 7):

I think I know what you mean, but could you please explain? (would Joan Rivers and Bette Midler also qualify?).

Well, first of all, there is no cut-and-dry definition of what is and what isn't a drag queen.

But generally I think of a drag queen as dressing up in overly exaggerated feminine clothing and hair, very often with a costumey overall genre to it.

Madonna has approached it, but she doesn't do the exaggerated makeup and costumes that Gaga does. Dolly Parton? You bet. My favorite Dolly quote was when asked how long it took to do her hair and she said: "How should I know? I'm never there for it!" Tammy Faye Messner was another one, although less so.

Joan Rivers? I don't see the exaggeratedness of her dress. Nor do I see it for Bette Middler.


User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 11):
But generally I think of a drag queen as dressing up in overly exaggerated feminine clothing and hair, very often with a costumey overall genre to it.

OK, thanks for clearing that up! I know drag queens like to impersonate Joan Rivers, Bette Midler and Marilyn Monroe - all with flamboyant personalities!

Trivia: I remember as a grad student (1970's) some gay friends took me to a disco - quite the experience. This was before there were straight clubs. I usually associate music with a time and a place - so now I'm wondering, what was the first disco song ever?


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3964 times:

The thing I do not like about it is that it took no musical creativity. It borrows almost exactly the same chord progressions from Madonna's "Express Yourself" and the spoken part follows the exact same beat and tone from "Vogue." It really took no musical talent to write this. Yeah, you have a different intro, and finale, but every chord is the same as the Madonna songs.

Words are great however. So I'm somewhat torn? Lady Gaga has always had her own vision and really didn't borrow others styles to a great deal, so to see this much blatant copying, it just bothers me.

But, people....all day long....have been posting, "Don't be a Drag, be a Queen!" as their FB status. It's annoying. So anthem, maybe so...


User currently offlinebaguy From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3960 times:

An interesting interpretation........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2wVsABJP74

BAguy


User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3948 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 13):
so to see this much blatant copying, it just bothers me.

Is it copying or is it a tribute? - just wondering...


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3942 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 15):
Is it copying or is it a tribute? - just wondering...

It was never announced as a tribute to Madonna.....but is being rumored to be the "Gay Anthem." AFAIK no credit is given to Madonna.


User currently offlinecerretaman From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

Not gonna lie, I'd marry LG in a heartbeat...def my biggest celeb crush.

Listened to the song like 20x today; it's catchy!!   



u mad cause i'm stylin' on you?
User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21882 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3820 times:

The more I hear the song, the less I'm impressed by it. And that's not because it bears resemblance to Madonna or whatever, because I've never heard the stuff it's being compared to. I just don't think the music was very well thought out.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently onlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3733 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3807 times:

Not impressed, not even particularly catchy.

User currently offlinecodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3761 times:

Not the first and not the last time she will copycat another artist.

KS/codeshare



How much A is there is Airliners Net ? 0 or nothing ?
User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3686 times:

I am just not feeling it, like I do with her other songs. It sounds forced, and not from the heart. What I mean is, as a songwriter, you get a melody, an idea, and the creative juices start to flow. It seems like she wanted to write a song about this subject, and it is not as natural as an idea that just popped in your head, while taking a shower, driving down the road etc.
I respect the hell out of her as a singer and songwriter, because she is multidimensional when it comes to her songs, but this is not her best work. The chorus is ok, but it does not have that hook, like her other hits. As far as sounding like Madonna, who cares? The more songs that come out over the years, in the same genre, some are going to sound the same.
I hope this song does well, but I am hoping the CD is much better.


User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3610 times:

I like the song more as I hear it more often. The change in register that she does with her voice is impressive. I think her 'egg' performance at the Grammys tonight was quite spectacular! The song made it to #1 in 21 countries within minutes of release. I'm a big fan because she is a real downtown artist.

User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4617 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3603 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 13):
Lady Gaga has always had her own vision and really didn't borrow others styles to a great deal, so to see this much blatant copying, it just bothers me.

Honestly, I've listed to both several times and it really isn't all that close. Yes, it can pass as a Madonna-like song, but nothing the blatant copying you are saying.

It definitely isn't as bad as Flo Rida, Rhianna, Black Eyed Peas and to an extent Katy Perry (E.T.) that have copied songs.


User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3597 times:

I have to say, she kicked azz tonight on the Grammys, and liked the live version. She is one hell of a perfomer!

25 DocLightning : Well, one thing's for sure: she's controversial!
26 type-rated : IMHO all you need to have for a drag queen is a man in a dress......... Even though this is not her best effort, I think La Ga Ga will be around for a
27 elbandgeek : Much like was the case with Alejandro, I'm not feeling it much now but I think it will grow on me. It's still not her best work though, but performed
28 flynlr : wow the charlie uniform November something else ..hey gaga Madonna did that in the 80's
29 KiwiRob : I think you have the terminology wrong here Doc, she's a Faux Queen, i.e. a female pretending to be a drag queen, I don't think Dolly is one. In fact
30 CargoLex : Part and parcel of the music biz. Madonna hardly ever mentions that her earliest hits were not written by her and were produced by Nile Rodgers from
31 AGM100 : My daughters were playing it Saturday... for the rest of the day I had " Express Yourself " by Madonna going though my head. Its a awful song ... and
32 Post contains images Aaron747 : I'd certainly listen to La Ga Ga on repeat all day rather than anything by those two nincompoops. The utter crap that passes for music in the pop r&a
33 JBirdAV8r : Blecch. Any 12-year-old idiot with a pirated copy of Auto-Tune and Garage Band could "write" the crap that passes for "music" these days. Most new art
34 Flighty : Watching her perform this (Madonna) song yesterday, she didn't sing my favorite Madonna parts of the song. So, it was a performance of Madonna's song
35 Post contains links Aaron747 : Couldn't agree more. And talented lasses like this don't even win Grammy's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa8zN4ElAFM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
36 Post contains links and images ouboy79 : Yay for more uninformed feedback. Yes it sounded like a Madonna song, but it wasn't. Don't make unsubstantiated claims. Thankfully Gaga actually has
37 atrude777 : I posted a review of it in my notes on Facebook, here it is... Edit My Review on Lady Gaga's "BORN THIS WAY" and a personal note. by Alex Trude on Mon
38 YVRLTN : Unfortunately. Person or musician? She can make money, that takes talent, but I dont think she is a talented musician. Shes only big because there is
39 ouboy79 : Have you even bothered to listen to the recordings of her just playing the piano and singing? Look at the links above and then make a comment like th
40 AustrianZRH : Ever heard her live? I don't think so because if you had you wouldn't say that. Singing speechless unplugged just on the piano definitely showed her
41 shamrock350 : There's no doubting Lady GaGa's talent, just watching one of her live performances on YouTube and you can see she's in a completely different league c
42 WestJetForLife : The way she played 'Paparazzi' live, unplugged and on a radio show no doubt goes to show that you don't need auto-tune to make that song (and about 4
43 DanTaylor2006 : I really didn't like it when I first heard it. I thought it was over-produced and too much like Madonna to be considered decent. However, it's now on
44 Post contains images comorin : I think it was beautifully done - the costumes, the dance moves and the song itself. LG is too big a star to rip anyone off, and she either speaks to
45 ouboy79 : Definitely a huge push for these types of songs right now to counter the decades of mistreatment of people that may be just a bit different from what
46 type-rated : Lady GaGa was on Jay Leno's show the other night and went into quite a bit of detail about how she recorded this song and then took a year to mix it t
47 Post contains links comorin : So "Born This Way" makes history after only 3 days of retail availability: Goes straight to #1 on Billboard Hot 100, only 19 songs have ever done that
48 YVRLTN : Apologies if this is a LG eulogy thread only, but I have my opinions just as you are entitled to have yours and I know plenty about her. Just to prove
49 MDShady : One of her other songs sounds an awefull lot like "Take My Breath Away" from the household favorite Top Gun. I I concur. Many people can sing and play
50 comorin : LG is very different from Madonna et al as she is first and foremost a performance artist. While there is little question about her singing and songwr
51 Post contains images YVRLTN : And what next? Full nudity on stage I suppose. You both get it. Like I said, I dont knock her for what she has achieved. But overly talented musician
52 DocLightning : I also love the fact that she sometimes bursts into song during interviews. She really IS a good singer with a fantastic voice. Even a capella, her v
53 wn700driver : I'm glad this someone else's computer I sprayed diet coke all over! Seriously? Madonna has more range in "Open your Heart" alone than Stephanie Germa
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