DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16943 posts, RR: 57 Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3392 times:
Quoting comorin (Reply 5): I think it's her most Madonna-like song. I'd be curious as to what a.net's pink brigade thinks of it!
It has to be. Lady Gaga has been, from the outset, one of the music industry's most vocal supporters of gay rights. She's young, 23-24, IIRC and this was her message from day one. She made it clear that she was going to take our cause to the masses and that she was going to be a huge ally. I may not love her music, but she has my deepest respect for her artistic talent... and my deepest gratitude.
Furthermore, Lady Gaga is a drag queen. She's a woman, yes, but she is still a drag queen. (So is Dolly Parton).
Will this join the ranks of "We Are Family" in the gay community? Only time will tell, but it was clearly written as an anthem for us. We'd be ungrateful not to use it.
Thank you, Lady Gaga. I'm glad to know we have a friend and a powerful ally in you.
luckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1656 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3172 times:
Quoting comorin (Reply 7): would Joan Rivers and Bette Midler also qualify?).
Joan Rivers, yes. She's beyond a drag queen even, she's a dime store mannequin. Bette Midler, probably not. Her success has never been predicated much on her image besides her own self-deprecating jokes about her "pretty legs and great big knockers."
I personally am not a fan of the song. It reminds me too much of disco, a genre I'm not particularly fond of, and when I heard the song I just kept wanting to sing "Don't Leave Me This Way'' alone with it.
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16943 posts, RR: 57 Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3094 times:
Quoting comorin (Reply 7):
I think I know what you mean, but could you please explain? (would Joan Rivers and Bette Midler also qualify?).
Well, first of all, there is no cut-and-dry definition of what is and what isn't a drag queen.
But generally I think of a drag queen as dressing up in overly exaggerated feminine clothing and hair, very often with a costumey overall genre to it.
Madonna has approached it, but she doesn't do the exaggerated makeup and costumes that Gaga does. Dolly Parton? You bet. My favorite Dolly quote was when asked how long it took to do her hair and she said: "How should I know? I'm never there for it!" Tammy Faye Messner was another one, although less so.
Joan Rivers? I don't see the exaggeratedness of her dress. Nor do I see it for Bette Middler.
comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4724 posts, RR: 17 Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3077 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 11): But generally I think of a drag queen as dressing up in overly exaggerated feminine clothing and hair, very often with a costumey overall genre to it.
OK, thanks for clearing that up! I know drag queens like to impersonate Joan Rivers, Bette Midler and Marilyn Monroe - all with flamboyant personalities!
Trivia: I remember as a grad student (1970's) some gay friends took me to a disco - quite the experience. This was before there were straight clubs. I usually associate music with a time and a place - so now I'm wondering, what was the first disco song ever?
UAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3067 times:
The thing I do not like about it is that it took no musical creativity. It borrows almost exactly the same chord progressions from Madonna's "Express Yourself" and the spoken part follows the exact same beat and tone from "Vogue." It really took no musical talent to write this. Yeah, you have a different intro, and finale, but every chord is the same as the Madonna songs.
Words are great however. So I'm somewhat torn? Lady Gaga has always had her own vision and really didn't borrow others styles to a great deal, so to see this much blatant copying, it just bothers me.
But, people....all day long....have been posting, "Don't be a Drag, be a Queen!" as their FB status. It's annoying. So anthem, maybe so...
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19815 posts, RR: 56 Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2923 times:
The more I hear the song, the less I'm impressed by it. And that's not because it bears resemblance to Madonna or whatever, because I've never heard the stuff it's being compared to. I just don't think the music was very well thought out.
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
Mudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2789 times:
I am just not feeling it, like I do with her other songs. It sounds forced, and not from the heart. What I mean is, as a songwriter, you get a melody, an idea, and the creative juices start to flow. It seems like she wanted to write a song about this subject, and it is not as natural as an idea that just popped in your head, while taking a shower, driving down the road etc.
I respect the hell out of her as a singer and songwriter, because she is multidimensional when it comes to her songs, but this is not her best work. The chorus is ok, but it does not have that hook, like her other hits. As far as sounding like Madonna, who cares? The more songs that come out over the years, in the same genre, some are going to sound the same.
I hope this song does well, but I am hoping the CD is much better.
comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4724 posts, RR: 17 Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2713 times:
I like the song more as I hear it more often. The change in register that she does with her voice is impressive. I think her 'egg' performance at the Grammys tonight was quite spectacular! The song made it to #1 in 21 countries within minutes of release. I'm a big fan because she is a real downtown artist.