If you're going to be "immoral" I don't think you need a special day to do it and, anyway, like many things these days it seems to have gone well beyond a bit of innocent fun and be more about merchandising than anything else.
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8418 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2183 times:
Quoting oly720man (Thread starter): Several Malaysian states are planning to carry out checks on hotels to stop young couples having premarital sex.
Definitely something no state has any right to do.
Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4397 posts, RR: 17 Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2172 times:
Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1): Definitely something no state has any right to do.
And yet something that elected officials in our own government have sometimes discussed doing.
falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5673 posts, RR: 29 Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2153 times:
Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 2): And yet something that elected officials in our own government have sometimes discussed doing.
But they didn't do it....
Quoting oly720man (Thread starter): Deputy Prime Minister Muhyiddin Yassin said Monday's celebration of romantic love was "not suitable" for Muslims.
Can Muslims have any kind of romantic love according to this guy?
Valentine's day is my birthday and it is kind of a pain in the butt. I rarely ever go out for dinner on my birthday because all the resturants are crowded. People always give those candy hearts too (the ones with sayings on them) and I hate those things......
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10243 posts, RR: 40 Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2133 times:
Mudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5 Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2116 times:
I hate Valentines Day, I think it is a bunch of commercialized BS. If you are the type of person that buys your girl flowers anytime of the year just for the hell of it, and take her out to dinner, and treat her like a lady, why do I need a day that says if I don't do it on that day, I am a bad guy?
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10243 posts, RR: 40 Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2073 times:
Quoting Mudboy (Reply 5): I think it is a bunch of commercialized BS.
Every special day is now being recooped by commercialism. Christmas, Mother's/Father's Day, Easter, Halloween... and thus they lose their true meaning and charm, which I find a real shame.
Valentine's Day has lost its innocent charm. Maybe this is why the Muslims want to have it banned.
I remember during the late 1950's and 1960's in France, Saint Valentine's Day was symbolized by two charming lovers by illustrator Peynet. The lovers pretty drawings were seen everywhere on Valentine's Day.
D L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10561 posts, RR: 53 Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2037 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6): Valentine's Day has lost its innocent charm. Maybe this is why the Muslims want to have it banned.
I know at least one Christian that wants it banned too.
cerretaman From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 75 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2018 times:
fr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 4263 posts, RR: 12 Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2014 times:
The person that Valentine's Day harms is the man that forgets it, assuming his significant other cares about that stuff. Quite thankfully, mine doesn't.
D L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10561 posts, RR: 53 Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1988 times:
Quoting fr8mech (Reply 10): The person that Valentine's Day harms is the man that forgets it, assuming his significant other cares about that stuff. Quite thankfully, mine doesn't.
Exactly. Valentine's Day is a tax on the thoughtful man for being thoughtful.
Mudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1972 times:
Well since my Fiance is Hungarian, I don't have to worry about Valentines Day, Woman's Day is the one that they do, which is March 8, I think?
D L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10561 posts, RR: 53 Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1955 times:
Quoting Mudboy (Reply 13): Woman's Day is the one that they do,
They should rename Valentine's Day "women's day" here.
skidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 60 Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1947 times:
I won this year. I got the card, she didn't. But, who actually cares? It's commercial drivel and should be stopped. Mind you, the Malaysian authorities seem to be a tad OTT with their point of view.
BMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 62 Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1943 times:
Valentines Day sucks for single guys like me.
I am in BKK right now and V day has just finished. I went out for a steak with Mr Superfly and everywhere that sold steaks seemed to be only doing over priced valentines dinners designed for couples. So in the end we went for a steak at at American run joint and it was excellent. No Valentines BS there either which was good, just friendly atmosphere,
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7645 posts, RR: 28 Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1908 times:
V-day is useless. Used to be cute when we were kids with card exchange, fun in high school when you could sic sentiment on the girlfriend who happened to fall on February, and a bit more fun in college when you could use it as an excuse to push the kink envelope. Now it has been totally ruined. Cards and candy for everyone in the office?? What the hell? It's supposed to be a holiday for sweethearts. Now Wal*Mart is telling people they have a V-day sale on waffle irons? WTF??
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Airstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1860 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1890 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 19): Now Wal*Mart is telling people they have a V-day sale on waffle irons? WTF??
I'm not sure that's as strange as it seems to strike you - for god's sake, in this country we evidently remember our war dead by reducing washing machine prices.
But it is always a bad idea to present your woman with a gift of a kitchen appliance, that's for sure. I think they prefer jewelry.
And hey, Aaron, why the "reverence" for that evil retailer by putting the star in there? That company doesn't deserve that kind of attention. (I am proud to say I have never set foot in a WalMart or even any of their parking lots.)
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7645 posts, RR: 28 Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1879 times:
Quoting Airstud (Reply 20): I'm not sure that's as strange as it seems to strike you - for god's sake, in this country we evidently remember our war dead by reducing washing machine prices.
Oh right there with you. But it just gets worse and worse every year - what a joke. ABC reported people are spending up to $115 on Valentine's day including gifts/cards for co-workers, friends, and what not.
Quoting Airstud (Reply 20): But it is always a bad idea to present your woman with a gift of a kitchen appliance, that's for sure.
Well I don't worry about that part - my wife thinks V-day is a corporate scam.
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falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5673 posts, RR: 29 Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1860 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 19): But it is always a bad idea to present your woman with a gift of a kitchen appliance
My dad used to say that until he got my mom a Kitchen Aid mixer for Christmas. She said it was the best and most useful gift she ever got. My dad once got my mom a lawnmower for mother's day, that didn't go over well, but I thought it was funny.
comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4675 posts, RR: 17 Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1834 times:
Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 18): I went out for a steak with Mr Superfly
ajd1992 From UK - England, joined Jul 2006, 2645 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1788 times:
I don't think it's too bad - although, I don't think having 1 day that is dedicated to somebody is that great. If you love them, surely every day should be a day you do something nice for them or buy them something you know they'll like. Me and my girlfriend do it all the time, although this was our first V day together, and the first V day either one of us has been able to share it with somebody else.
You don't even have to spend a lot for it to be romantic. I think I spent £30 on flowers (Although, being V day, I reckon I got a pretty good deal considering a certain place in my local town wanted £46 for FOUR ROSES (I shit you not, seriously.)), and £1 on a card. I got her an iPod Touch that she's been after for a long time as well, and I had it engraved for her too but I was going to buy her that anyway.
Remember - It's not the amount you spend, it's the amount you love somebody. I'd be happy with nothing on V day and just to spend time with her, but that's just me.
CrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 42 Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1787 times:
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Quoting Mudboy (Reply 5): I hate Valentines Day, I think it is a bunch of commercialized BS. If you are the type of person that buys your girl flowers anytime of the year just for the hell of it, and take her out to dinner, and treat her like a lady, why do I need a day that says if I don't do it on that day, I am a bad guy?
My thoughts exactly! Happy Hallmark Day everyone!
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25 DocLightning: You are trying to use a standard of logic and sense to a fundamentalist religion. By definition, fundamentalism is not based on logic and sense. It i
26 Airstud: w00 w00!! Get your pray on, b!tches!!!
27 BMIFlyer: Haha yeah ok! What I meant to write was - I went to bed alone therefore dispelling the myth that guys only go to BKK to find ladies to sleep with....
28 Tu204: It is a very commercialised "holiday". However, it only takes a little bit to satisfy your loved one. I bought my wife a 7$ fluffy teddy bear and she
29 zalemam: Thanks for the lesson, Expert on Islam and "fundamental" religions. Ignorance...I hate when users spew false information. Assuming you're talking abo
30 Superfly: LOL! BMIflyer, you had plenty of options. That was your choice. NO! Valentine's is GREAT for us single guys. No pressure to do anything special. Funn
32 ltbewr: Many public schools in the USA are having to downplay considerably or ban 'celebrations' of Valentines Day. Pressure from fundimentalist Christians, g
33 oly720man: Well, it's been around a fair while From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallmark_holiday further reading Leigh Eric Schmidt (December 1991). "The Comme
34 sw733: No pressure for guys in relationships too if you have the right girl! I got my fiance a $2 card, a $6 pitcher of beer and a $5 hamburger...and she lo
35 Superfly: Very true. I just didn't want BMIflyer to feel down about being single.
36 Airstud: "Assuming" is your key word, here. I don't think Doc was talking about Islam, he said was talking about religious fundamentalism in general. All reli
37 ScarletHarlot: C'mon guys. If Steak and BJ Day was an official companion holiday to Valentine's Day, you guys would be all over V-Day. (March 14th, if you didn't kno
38 Superfly: Well of course but we won't be satisfied until we see the equal amount of commercialism, advertisements, etc. to match Steak and BJ Day. There is no
39 SW733: Meh, plenty o'money saved. I still spent $13 that was completely unnecessary yesterday! I'll never get that back...
40 Tu204: Oh man, you've got a lot to learn Yeah, I remember being single (as in not married), but I remember spending alot more money on V-day...and on more t
41 skidmarks: Hmmm, March 14th is my birthday. Will I get a steak and BJ? Only time will tell. Mind you, if i do i hope it isn't in public!!! Andy
42 DocLightning: No, I am talking about religious fundamentalism. Islam certainly has its fundamentalists. So does Christianity. So does Hinduism (which I could almos
43 Superfly: You want your steak in private and BJ in public?
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