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Sheriff Joe For US Senate.  
User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7308 posts, RR: 85
Posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1852 times:
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Looks like the early polls have him as the front runner to replace retiring John Kyl. Newt is also considering a run (again). Wonder if Joe will try to open carry at the Capitol?   

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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6305 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Please, NO! Arpaio is a fool.


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User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3028 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1760 times:

The single most embarrassing part about being from AZ.


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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1726 times:

Sheriff Joe ain't no Senator ... The Sheriff needs to stay right where he is . Hated by the left ... and feared by the criminals .


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15778 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1672 times:

I can't disagree with a lot of what Arpaio has done, but he is too much of a hardliner to succeed as a politician.


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User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3028 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 3):
Hated by the left ... and feared by the criminals .

I am nowhere near left, and am not a criminal. And I think he's a egomaniac moron.



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User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 5):
I am nowhere near left, and am not a criminal. And I think he's a egomaniac moron.

Why, because he makes criminals feel and live, like criminals, and not house guests of the state?


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1550 times:

He can't be any worse than John Kyl.
Joe Arpaio will be 80 years old in 2012 and considered too old to run for a 1st. 6 year Senate term.



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User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

Even though I like Joe I agree with BMI727 he is too much of a lightning rod to ever win much like Sarah Palin. You never put real controversial figures on a ticket it just spells disaster.


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

Speaking of Joe, is crime lower in his county?
My only problem with his tactics is that it involves those that have not been convicted. Some of these people are innocent and should never be subjected to this sort of treatment.
Someone with an unpaid moving violation and/or missed a court date over a minor infraction would be subjected to this sort of treatment.
That's not cool.



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User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3028 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1514 times:

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 6):
Why, because he makes criminals feel and live, like criminals, and not house guests of the state?

Well, Superfly speaks to some of that...

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
My only problem with his tactics is that it involves those that have not been convicted. Some of these people are innocent and should never be subjected to this sort of treatment.
Someone with an unpaid moving violation and/or missed a court date over a minor infraction would be subjected to this sort of treatment.
That's not cool.

Combined with the multimillion dollar settlements paid out to people injured or killed by his staff, you get a guy I can't like. And while the issue of illegals is indeed important, he is so focussed on that he neglects everything else.

Honestly, I used to love him. That was back in the 90s. As time has gone on without him having anyone to answer to, he has become expensive and dangerous. And embarrassing.



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 5):
And I think he's a egomaniac moron.



Would you prefer a whimpering politician to deal with the mongrels running around on the fringe of our society ? I agree the man can be bombastic ... but he loves his officers and takes allot of pride in them and his department. For me ... I will take a sheriff who is out in front defending himself and doing his job over a political wannabe like Dupnik any day.

I know he has been accused of some tough stuff and I don't know if its right or wrong ....I do know the left wing open border groups like La Raza and De Humanos hate the man....in my book he must be something right. No one is perfect ...

He will not run for Senate ...



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 11):
I know he has been accused of some tough stuff and I don't know if its right or wrong ....I do know the left wing open border groups like La Raza and De Humanos hate the man....in my book he must be something right. No one is perfect ...

Not concerned about those groups.
What about someone that accidentally missed a court date over a minor infraction such as not coming to a complete stop or J-walking?
Young people tend to move more frequent and it's possible that court documents get mailed to the wrong address or not forward properly. Should they be subjected to the same punishment at killers, rapist, assault & battery because of a missed court date?



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User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1488 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):

Not concerned about those groups.
What about someone that accidentally missed a court date over a minor infraction such as not coming to a complete stop or J-walking?
Young people tend to move more frequent and it's possible that court documents get mailed to the wrong address or not forward properly. Should they be subjected to the same punishment at killers, rapist, assault & battery because of a missed court date?

I don't know how it is there, but in the county jail in my home town, you actually have convicted felons that are serving out their sentences in the county jail, instead of the state prison. In fact when I used to ride in the box, we would get called to the county jail quite a bit, and I used to see a guy I went to HS with, that was convicted of manslaughter, and he did all 8 yrs of his sentence, in the Washington Co. Jail. Another little gay dude that hacked up his buddy in the bath tub with an exacto knife and then wrote "Demon Dead" in blood all over the walls, was in there doing half of his 8 yrs for Aggrivated Assault, before he went to the State Pen, so it may be the same there? BTW, that same dude, cut his own balls off, because he wanted to be a woman! (OUCH)


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1451 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
Should they be subjected to the same punishment at killers, rapist, assault & battery because of a missed court date?


Larry I assume you have some specific knowledge of this happening so I cant argue with you about it. Joe has a simple idea ... make jail a place you don't want to go ...and don't want to come back too. In Tucson we have a pretty standard county jail ( Not a tent city) .... i have a little experience with the place it is a horrible scene and a very depressing place. It should be ... and there are hard criminals and traffic violators bunking in the same rooms. A normal citizen would not want to go back there under any circumstances.



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User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

quote= Superfly ,reply=12

What about someone that accidentally missed a court date over a minor infraction such as not coming to a complete stop or J-walking?


If I lived in Maricopa County, I would not have any court dates, or infractions minor or major, and I damn sure wouldn't
J-walk !

That's probably why all of us "squeaky-clean" living law abiding citizens love good old Sherrif Joe so much !

Charley



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1343 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 15):
That's probably why all of us "squeaky-clean" living law abiding citizens love good old Sherrif Joe so much !

"squeaky-clean" people make mistakes too and can get caught in speed traps, accidentally stop over the line, etc. They should not be subjected to the same treatment of harden criminals.
I am all for Sheriff Joe's tactics but only for convicted criminals.



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User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3028 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 15):
If I lived in Maricopa County, I would not have any court dates, or infractions minor or major, and I damn sure wouldn't
J-walk !

That's probably why all of us "squeaky-clean" living law abiding citizens love good old Sherrif Joe so much !

Charley

Geezer,
Is that really the America you want to live in? Really?


I was once ticketed for driving "74.5 MPH on a 50 MPH zone". Notice that 74.5 rounds up to 75, which is 50% more than the speed limit, which in that jurisdiction dramatically increased the fine. Well I MIGHT have been driving at 45MPH at the time, certainly significantly below 50 and nowhere in the universe as 75MPH. Several months later, my father, who is a stereotypical "old man driver" and frustratingly drives veeeerrrry slowly, had the same experience in the same area. (South of Pittsburgh on Rt 51, Elizabeth/Rostraver area). The District Justice in the area was, I believe, a relative of the cop.

So I hesitate on giving every cop unlimited power to, for lack of a better word, destroy people. And I see people who say, "If you abide by the law you have nothing to worry about" as naive. And dangerous.


Edit to point out that I'm on topic in that Sheriff Joe has taken on that bully persona, needs to be taken down a peg or 2 instead of given more power. Americans should not live in fear of law enforcement officers.

[Edited 2011-02-17 06:07:14]


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User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1309 times:

I some how have a feeling, that his county is not like Iran, and much of this hype is overblown, like everything else that gets reported by the media. I don't think any law-abiding citizen would have anything to worry about in his county, just the ones that think the law doesn't apply to them?

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1283 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 17):
"If you abide by the law you have nothing to worry about" as naive. And dangerous.

I agree however it seems to work in North Korea.  



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User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1720 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1264 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 17):
Is that really the America you want to live in? Really?

Unfortunately, there are more than a few people in this country who are attracted by authoritarianism as long as it is agreeable with their particular flavor of politics. I personally think Arpaio is a thug and a national embarassment. I cannot believe that anyone would seriously consider him Senate material.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 20):
Unfortunately, there are more than a few people in this country who are attracted by authoritarianism as long as it is agreeable with their particular flavor of politics.

  
Spot on!

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 20):
I personally think Arpaio is a thug and a national embarassment.

  
All he needs to do punish those that have been 'convicted', not every single person brought in to the sheriff station.

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 20):
I cannot believe that anyone would seriously consider him Senate material.

Well these are Republicans in Arizona so don't expect any common sense.



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 17):
If you abide by the law you have nothing to worry about" as naive. And dangerous.



Dangerous ? Dangerous ? You see law abiding people as dangerous ? I thank god for our sheriff and police every day .... are they perfect ..hell no ! but maybe you should take a drive down to Mexico to appreciate our law enforcement . And try to imagine a Day in the Phoenix without law enforcement .

Here is the deal very simple ... Joe enforces immigration law .... and the left wing hates him for it . That includes the DHS director ...the Attorney General of the US ... The President of the US and every other Latino voter hopeful.



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User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3028 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
Dangerous ? Dangerous ? You see law abiding people as dangerous ?

That's not what I said and you know it.
If copying/quoting fragments of sentences to completely change meanings is somehow acceptable in this thread, I'll be happy to get creative with yours as well.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13634 posts, RR: 62
Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1193 times:
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Tell you what - I'll run for Kyl's Senate seat instead. Okay?  


"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
25 AGM100 : No ..you said "you see people who believe that if you abide by the law you have nothing to worry about as dangerous" .... please explain if there is
26 4holer : Well that's still not exactly what I said. But anyway... Let's see if I can make this real simple. I believe it is dangerous to entrust those in a po
27 Post contains images oa412 : So rather than working to overcome the horrible public discourse in this country, and see an end to bitter partisanship, you like Arpaio because he f
28 CargoLex : Mongrels? You shouldn't wonder anymore why you get called a Racist. The man is a fascist who's actions make a mockery of our judicial system. I reali
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