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Anti-US Attitude On A.net?  
User currently offlineCharlieNoble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3509 times:

I am just amazed by the number of threads I have read lately where the consensus seems to be:

- Airports in the US are awful
- Airline service in the US is terrible
- Airplanes being flown by airlines in the US are shabby
- The T.S.A. are at best incompetent, and at worst deliberately malicious
- Boeing airplanes aren't as good as their Airbus equivalents (except for the 77W of course)
- American passengers are inconsiderate jackasses.

For all I know, much of this may be true. Maybe all of it. It is what it is.

I came to A.net in search of fellow airplane fans but it seems I've found some kind of Portal for international "bitch sessions" about US aviation.

I wonder at what point people should just not fly here if it is so far beneath their standards. Constantly crying on A.net about it is pointless.

Am I missing something here?

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User currently offlineU2380 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3501 times:

Maybe try and look at it from the other point of view as well.

Certainly there are many Anti-(insert nationality) views on a.net but they are not all just bashing the US.

Go to any A380 thread to see the point in question.

[Edited 2011-02-15 09:06:59]

User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5157 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3487 times:

Quoting CharlieNoble (Thread starter):
Am I missing something here?



- Airports in the US are awful
US airports are heavily congested, and delays frequent at quite a few of them.

- Airline service in the US is terrible
US airlines have cut service levels right back, and are much lower than what is found in Europe, and miles behind
Asia/Middle East carriers, especially when it comes to premium cabins. Although I havent actually flown a US airline, this seems to be the general consensus.

- Airplanes being flown by airlines in the US are shabby
US airlines still operate a lot of MD's and DC-9s, many of which are getting on a bit. Given the constant cuts, it wouldnt surprise me to find the interiors to be lacking.

- The T.S.A. are at best incompetent, and at worst deliberately malicious
This tends to be americans complaining about this.

- Boeing airplanes aren't as good as their Airbus equivalents (except for the 77W of course)
I'm sure you will find just as many posts stating the opposite...

- American passengers are inconsiderate jackasses.
No denying that  



That'll teach you
User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1212 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3479 times:

Well, some people complain that we treat some Argentinian members and their [insert admirable adjective here] homeland as the scum of the earth.

Liberals on here claim they are the minority and constantly harassed.

Conservatives claim they are the minority and constantly harassed.

Gays claim to be belittled on A.net.

People cite xenophobia and racism constantly for every little thing that they don't take a fancy to.




In short, the grass is greener on the other side, no matter what. If you don't like it here, nobody is forcing you to stay. If you enjoy it here but just don't like the crap, stay out of non-av (and unfortunately, more and more so civ-av) or camp out in tech/ops or av-hobby.



The above post is my opinion. Don't like it? Don't read it.
User currently offlineStabilator From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 712 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

There are certainly people on this site that 'strongly' dislike Americans. I won't reveal who I think they are. I try to take every anti-American post with a grain of salt, just like I'm sure Airbus fanboys take anti-A380 posts with a grain of salt.


So we beat on against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3433 times:

Quoting CharlieNoble (Thread starter):

These are coming from western Europeans that must be very ignorant and haven't traveled much or simply hang out with like-minded Europeans when they do travel. I haven't seen this attitude from Asians and Latin Americans.
As much as I've traveled, the worst are the new-moneyed Russians and Middle-Easterners. I've seen entire families with children bully and harass restaurant and hotel staff, cut in line and do things that are just downright rude. I've never seen Americans act like this.
There is a lot of US envy from a handful of western Europeans and I see and hear it when I stumble upon their enclaves here in Asia. These folks sit around in pow-wows bashing the US as if it's a sport. They have to be extremely biter to spend their vacation time talking politics and bashing another country.
I thought electing Obama was to make the rest of the world love us again but instead they rather gripe about Sarah Palin who doesn't hold an elected office.
I've found the smelly backpackers and academic know-it-all NGO volunteer types to be the worse.
The best thing to do is just ignore them. It's more of a personal complex issue on their part.

Finally, the A380 rocks!  bigthumbsup 
One of the best planes ever made and kudos to Airbus for designing a new 4-engine jumbo!  Cool
I love the A340 and will take it over a 777 any day!
I just love 4-engine aircraft regardless of who makes them.
747
A380
A340
IL-96
IL-86
707
DC-8
IL-62

[Edited 2011-02-15 09:18:53]


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlinedeltaownsall From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Quoting CharlieNoble (Thread starter):

Can't really disagree with any of the civ-av points up there, other than #5   I can tell you, however, that if you don't want to see wild assumptions about Americans being passed off as widely accepted fact, stay out of non-av. It can be pretty frustrating to see how many posters' opinions/knowledge of Americans seem to be informed almost exclusively by Family Guy or South Park. Perhaps it's some sort of divine retribution for those Americans who harbor ignorant stereotypes about the rest of the world, but that brings the concept of stereotyping to a whole new level of irony.

This, of course, is only the American experience. Maybe nationals of a few other countries find similar biases here. It does seem that, depending on the flag next to your name, there is often a stock list of ignorant opinions that you can get away with, and informed opinions that will be instantly cast aside. It's the internet, after all.    Despite all of this, there is still a decent amount of informed and reasoned debate that takes place here if you are ready to sift through the nonsense, and the aggregate is still largely better than what you will find elsewhere.


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10034 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3372 times:
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Quoting CharlieNoble (Thread starter):

I came to A.net in search of fellow airplane fans but it seems I've found some kind of Portal for international "bitch sessions" about US aviation.

Go anywhere in which people are fans/obsessive about a any particular subject, and you're going to find them very opinionated about said subject. Doesn't matter what the subject is.

Quoting CharlieNoble (Thread starter):
- Airports in the US are awful
- Airline service in the US is terrible
- Airplanes being flown by airlines in the US are shabby
- The T.S.A. are at best incompetent, and at worst deliberately malicious
...
- American passengers are inconsiderate jackasses.

I've heard these four complaints from plenty of Americans. I can understand it, although I don't really let it all bother me. It's all still worth it to be able to fly.



"Two and a Half Men" was filmed in front of a live ostrich.
User currently offlineozglobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2721 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3360 times:

Quoting CharlieNoble (Thread starter):
Am I missing something here?

Yes. You are only focusing on observations or more negative opinions about the US. Do some searches on what Brits and some Americans write about the French if you don't won't to feel so singled out.

My suggestion is try an experiment where you adopt another prominant nationality and search for it as a keyword on a.net:

Suggetions: France, French, Aussies, Australia, Brits, UK, German tourists, Russian tourists, etc .... It might be a bit of an eye opener if you look for long enough...

[Edited 2011-02-15 09:36:56]


When all's said and done, there'll be more said than done.
User currently offlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
There is a lot of US envy from a handful of western Europeans and I see and hear it when I stumble upon their enclaves here in Asia. These folks sit around in pow-wows bashing the US as if it's a sport. They have to be extremely biter to spend their vacation time talking politics and bashing another country.

I've run into that too. And never, ever mistake a Canadian for American.

Reminds me of a story where the only negativity an American had on a trip to Iran was from some Euros who let loose with a verbal attack with no provocation.

Then there is this forum where an Aussie who has never been here is constantly starting US bashing threads from things he reads in the Daily Mail. I've been tempted to start returning the favor.


User currently offlinedeltaownsall From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3294 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
These are coming from western Europeans that must be very ignorant and haven't traveled much or simply hang out with like-minded Europeans when they do travel. I haven't seen this attitude from Asians and Latin Americans.
As much as I've traveled, the worst are the new-moneyed Russians and Middle-Easterners. I've seen entire families with children bully and harass restaurant and hotel staff, cut in line and do things that are just downright rude. I've never seen Americans act like this.
There is a lot of US envy from a handful of western Europeans and I see and hear it when I stumble upon their enclaves here in Asia. These folks sit around in pow-wows bashing the US as if it's a sport. They have to be extremely biter to spend their vacation time talking politics and bashing another country.
I thought electing Obama was to make the rest of the world love us again but instead they rather gripe about Sarah Palin who doesn't hold an elected office.

Wow, so much truth here, it's mind-boggling. Well done. Western Europe's Palin-obsessed contingent is especially entertaining, if not extremely transparent.


User currently offlineCharlieNoble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3212 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 3):
If you don't like it here, nobody is forcing you to stay.

I wasn't threatening to leave, just looking for a second/third/fourth opinion on my observation.

Thanks for all of the thoughtful replies.


User currently offlineStabilator From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 712 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3197 times:

Quoting mham001 (Reply 9):

Then there is this forum where an Aussie who has never been here is constantly starting US bashing threads from things he reads in the Daily Mail

Very true!   

Also had troubles up here in GFK with our new Saudi students going through the helicopter program. They think they are the only ones in the traffic pattern. The group of them here seem very self-entitled (dawns the flame suit).

All in all the Palin-obsessed foreigners probably know very little about America, ergo I can't take their comments seriously.



So we beat on against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.
User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3190 times:

Quoting mham001 (Reply 9):
Then there is this forum where an Aussie who has never been here is constantly starting US bashing threads from things he reads in the Daily Mail. I've been tempted to start returning the favor.

Please do. I've also taken notice.

--
For me, bottom line is this has been ongoing for years now on Anet. I tend to be very picky on what I read and respond to.

It's not just on Anet, but when I travel abroad I often times get stereotyped because I am an American. My two cents to the world: not everyone in the US is involved in politics. In fact some of us detest politics (me). The most common thing someone says to me while I travel is something regarding the government. I politely say I don't discuss politics and move on. Some have even become combative with me-I always take the high road.

I remember even some trashy Canadian women in Cancun was trashing the US to my face-how spoiled we are, how dirty our cites are etc. I just put my head phones on and said cheers to her. I love Canadians and I know she doesn't speak for all.

My point: there are some sorry ass people out there. Many on this board. Ignore the stuff you can and move on. I've seen people complain about similar things and nothing has changed in years.



Go big or go home
User currently offlineCharlieNoble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3169 times:

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 14):
My point: there are some sorry ass people out there. Many on this board. Ignore the stuff you can and move on. I've seen people complain about similar things and nothing has changed in years.

Hard to do, but I read you loud and clear.

Trash talk says a lot more about the originator than the recipient, that's for sure.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21467 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

Quoting deltaownsall (Reply 6):
It can be pretty frustrating to see how many posters' opinions/knowledge of Americans seem to be informed almost exclusively by Family Guy or South Park. Perhaps it's some sort of divine retribution for those Americans who harbor ignorant stereotypes about the rest of the world, but that brings the concept of stereotyping to a whole new level of irony.

Yeah, well, there is as much the phenomenon of some americans carrying bizarre beliefs from their sheltered isolation from the rest of the world and being utterly shocked when confronted with the real world outside the US borders as there are some non-americans holding similarly narrow and unrealistic prejudices against the USA and their inhabitants.

Of course there are some americans so bitter about the perceived loss of american supremacy in aviation that they seem completely unable to live with the fact that Airbus and other manufacturers even exist as there are some non-americans identifying so extremely with their own domestic manufacturers that they feel compelled to badmouth anything Boeing.

The operative word being "some".

And that's the point. A.net lives far more by the civilized members who are actually interested in aviation and in exchanging views and ideas than by the flamebaiters, trolls and perpetually offended drama queens. And they exist on pretty much any "side", largely irrespective of how exactly you slice or dice the a.net crowd.

Nationalities don't really determine who we are and especially not whether we're capable and willing to have a civilized and preferably even amiable discussion about interesting stuff of any kind.

There are plenty of people around who can hold some perspective, who actually know their stuff and even one or two with a rudimentary sense of humour. It's worth the effort looking for those and letting most of the shrillness just pass you by.

Have a nice time!   


User currently offlineskidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

I thought that's why the Americans were here, so we inadequate and under-developed Europeans can take the mick!  

I don't think anyone has a monopoly on being bashed on here. It seems anti-American because there are so damn many of them (Knew King George should have had all the colonists neutered!)   

If I were you, I'd just ignore the "bashing" threads, unless you want to add your three-pennorth.

Anyway, I'm off to find a helpless Antipodean to have a go at. Bloody criminals!! 

Andy   



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User currently offlinedeltaownsall From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3107 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 17):
Nationalities don't really determine who we are and especially not whether we're capable and willing to have a civilized and preferably even amiable discussion about interesting stuff of any kind.

First, thanks for re-hashing my original post.    Of course no single country has a monopoly on ignorance. The above point is one that I particularly agree with, which is why it is a problem that a number of posters (though, as I said, I think the aggregate here is usually better than the rest of the internet...which is probably why I've stuck around so long) seem to react first to flag and second, if at all, to content.


User currently offlineU2380 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

Quoting mham001 (Reply 9):
Reminds me of a story where the only negativity an American had on a trip to Iran was from some Euros who let loose with a verbal attack with no provocation.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
These are coming from western Europeans that must be very ignorant and haven't traveled much or simply hang out with like-minded Europeans when they do travel
Quoting deltaownsall (Reply 10):
Western Europe's Palin-obsessed contingent is especially entertaining, if not extremely transparent.
Quoting Stabilator (Reply 12):
All in all the Palin-obsessed foreigners probably know very little about America, ergo I can't take their comments seriously.

I think these comments back up the point I was making earlier. As much as it may seem that way to you, there is a comparable amount of ‘Europe bashing' (typically by Americans ) as there is 'US bashing' (typically by Europeans).

I also think it is Amplified on this forum because of the two competing aircraft manufacturers

We all hold stereotypes, many stereotypes I hear frequently from Americans about Europe and the UK are based around the war, our teeth, have you ever met the Queen? e.t.c, e.t.c.

And I’m sure you feel the same way about stereotypes Europeans hold about America.

On the subject of Palin, my personal experience (in the UK) is that most people don’t care that much. Even Obama is a bit of a ‘so-so’ figure, many of us ‘supported’ him in the election, but he also made the comments about BP and sent back Churchill’s Bust. Meh, most people don’t care, we have issues in our own politics.

One thing I will bash you for is the way your language has butchered the word aeroplane. Disgusting.
    


User currently offlinezalemam From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3067 times:

Its not just the US that gets bashed, its anything with the slightest flaw, I've been visiting A.net for many years and have come to the conclusion that A.net has so many users that love to complain, moan and bitch at just about every little aspect of a problem.

I can understand the TSA bashing and sometimes horrible service on a US Carrier...but people just love to complain on the Internet, its a site where you can complain and say what you want, and no one else on this website would know who you are, which is sad. I bet if we had a real life forum no one would mention half the crap that is spewed on here.

I'm not saying most of the member on A.net bitch and moan, but a large number of users do. It's just so immature.

Peace



Patience is Virtue
User currently offlinebhill From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3066 times:

"People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along?


Carpe Pices
User currently offlinedeltaownsall From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3024 times:

Quoting U2380 (Reply 20):
think these comments back up the point I was making earlier. As much as it may seem that way to you, there is a comparable amount of ‘Europe bashing' (typically by Americans ) as there is 'US bashing' (typically by Europeans).

To be perfectly fair, all of the comments that you highlighted are referencing a specific subset of people, not everyone from said countries/regions. The former is not stereotyping, but the latter would be. So it's not Europe bashing, just "specific people in Europe that fit the description" bashing.  
Quoting U2380 (Reply 20):
We all hold stereotypes, many stereotypes I hear frequently from Americans about Europe and the UK are based around the war, our teeth, have you ever met the Queen? e.t.c, e.t.c.

And I’m sure you feel the same way about stereotypes Europeans hold about America.

         From a personal perspective, it's especially aggravating having to wade through b.s. like "North Korea isn't a desert', 'The Taliban and Al Qaeda are separate organizations,' 'The EU isn't a country like the U.S.,' 'The Cold War is over,' etc. etc. every single time I want to discuss global politics in a reasonably informed manner. These unprovoked "educational clarifications"/assumptions of ignorance tend to bring the debate to a standstill, and certainly seem to be targeted at one nationality in particular here. But, like I said, these are the gripes of an American, and I'm sure I miss a lot of the bias that flies around towards other nationalities.

Edit: No idea what's going on with the Italics explosion here, it was not intentional!


[Edited 2011-02-15 13:15:27]

User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2993 times:

Every country is bound to be stereotyped by things related to it which stands out. Imagine if you're an Iranian or Israeli (just two random example, by no means singling our Iran and Israel) you must feel that the view of foreigners are completely distorted by politics and religion.

Quoting CharlieNoble (Thread starter):
- American passengers are inconsiderate jackasses.

American passengers in non US flights at least are usually very easy to approach and chat to, more so than any nationality IMO.


User currently offlineGBLKD From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2935 times:

Quoting mham001 (Reply 9):
Then there is this forum where an Aussie who has never been here is constantly starting US bashing threads from things he reads in the Daily Mail. I've been tempted to start returning the favor.

Daily Mail readers should never be taken seriously, don't take offence.

I do think there are a few non Americans on here who are anti American though which is very wrong. I would never tar an entire country with the same brush if someone from that country posts something I don't agree with. I suppose to a great number of Americans I would be classed as a "leftist" or a "socialist" and I do reel from some posts I read from some of the more right wing Americans (mainly the we should invade country X,Y, or Z brigade) but a handful of people are not an entire nation. I bear that in mind and move on. Either I'm rising above it or I'm too apathetic to get into an argument.

The U.S. is a fascinating place which I will visit one day, I've met many Americans in England all of who I have found to be intelligent and friendly people.

As far as the whole A vs B debate, I'm first and foremost an aviation "geek" and both companies do what they do very very well. Granted as a Brit and a European I honestly have to say it feels good to see the U.S. domination of western civil aviation broken but I'm not the type to relish the delays to the 787, competition is healthy and I can't wait to see the 787, 747-8i, and the A350 in service. I'm simply like good aeroplanes wherever they're built.

I do despair when I see anyone on here stereotyping and bashing an entire foreign nation, wherever you go on this planet you'll meet people with a wide range of views. You will agree with some of those people, disagree with some, learn from some, and maybe teach some of them.

Peace,

Andy.


User currently offlineCharlieNoble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2894 times:

Quoting deltaownsall (Reply 21):
Edit: No idea what's going on with the Italics explosion here, it was not intentional!

You're just one of those damned italicators aren't you LOL

Definitely agree that painting a large group of people with the same brush is a big mistake. I think most of us live a few doors away from some kind of idiot or another and wouldn't want to be judged by what that person does or doesn't do.

I think the anonymity of the internet doesn't help. Reminds me of the old joke that everybody online drives a Corvette (Ok, maybe an Aston Martin or Lexus...let's be inclusive here), has a supermodel wife and a full head of hair. The truth is half the time you could be arguing the relative merits of the 737 and A320 with an 8 year old or somebody not wearing any pants.

My belated New Year's resolution is to "let it go" when I read ignorant crap on here and just enjoy the flight...

(CharlieNoble heads off to fly an Airbus on Flight Simulator while eating French Fries to commemorate this decision...)

Matt


25 SOBHI51 : USA bashing is a drop in the ocean if compared to Islam bashing here, but do you see me complaining?
26 Post contains images Springbok747 : I've been to the US numerous times (I've been going almost every year...2 times in 2009), and just got back from a great holiday in Florida. And the
27 Post contains images TheCommodore : Mham001, Don't worry yourself about it, anyone who reads the "Daily Mail" is a bit light on, so to speak. Exactly my thoughts ! Remember that saying.
28 ImperialEagle : Oh yeah, likely an internet troll. I won't even bother to respond to it. Yes. These are the A.netters that really count!
29 Post contains links deltaownsall : Lmao, that is epic. Another classic: http://macromeme.com/cat/america-moon-comic.jpg Agreed...every time I go through immigration at JFK (assuming I'
30 BMI727 : I'm sure Air France likes it just fine. It makes CDG look good. Nothing like getting off the plane and seeing the ICE officer sitting at the podium i
31 Springbok747 : I think a Greyhound bus would be a far better experience. The security at US airports is getting ridiculous.[Edited 2011-02-16 11:10:22 by srbmod]
32 Post contains images aloges : If a nation dominates the news, it's quite likely to dominate the bad news as well. The US has certainly done so for a while, particularly in the time
33 SOBHI51 : Please can you explain, did not get it.
34 Post contains images Stabilator : Have terrorists hijack 4 Qantas jets and ram them into prominent buildings, killing thousands...I guarantee your security would look similar. Ridicul
35 ltbewr : Many times what is anti-US attitudes here are to me legitimate criticism of our leadership, government and businesses policies as well our society bel
36 Klaus : "Security theater" was one particularly insightful commentary (by an american, no less): Intended to lull the flying public into the impression that "
37 Post contains images Superfly : I have a friend that loves to travel throughout the Middle-East and his experience was the same. The locals in Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Tunisia and Morr
38 Ken777 : Airline service in the US is pretty cheap. That leads to lower service for the traveler. That depends on if you get a newer plane or an older plane.
39 Post contains links and images Springbok747 : Really? We are also targeted..thanks to our politicians acting like lapdogs to your politicians and going to war with countries we have no business t
40 Quokka : The USA is a huge country in so many ways and it is inhabited by people from all walks of life. Like all countries it has its good points and its bad
41 Post contains images Lufthansa411 : Saying this as an American in Germany, most of this I find to be true when painted with the same broad brush strokes that XYZ nationality is. Yes, mo
42 Superfly : I'd rather be on a DC-9 over a BA A320 any day. One would think that an aviation enthusiast site such as Airliners.net would appreciate classic jetli
43 Post contains images Mudboy : What amazes me is how many people bash the US, but they either want to move to the US, or go to school there. Years ago, I worked a summer job at BASF
44 Post contains images Klaus : "Cultural enlightenment" – as you put it – doesn't show by timidly acquiescing to any and all sensitivities anyone might possibly have, but by rea
45 Post contains images Superfly : SWEET! ! ! ! ! Any chance you have some new old stock of Reference Metal IECIV blank cassette tape? How about BASF 90 minute SoundLoop 8+ blank 8trac
46 Post contains links and images U2380 : All American are Loud, Obnoxious, Uneducated, Obese, Culturally insensitive, Ignorant... Cultural Stereotypes. All good fun. No? http://home.arcor.de
47 Post contains images Superfly : At least we have straight teeth.
48 AR385 : You should see what is written about Mexico. That is probably one of the most bashed countries in this forum. But once I noticed it´s always the sam
49 Post contains images Superfly : I understand very well. If they visited and expressed such attitudes about China, Japan, Thailand, Indonesia, Mexico, Venezuala, Peru and other count
50 JBirdAV8r : You know, this is a really good point. Arguments here descend into the ridiculous with sadly amazing speed. If someone makes a statement someone else
51 CharlieNoble : And if not that, Springbok's picture of Keeley Hazell should do the trick. Nothing wrong with her....teeth.
52 Severnaya : Perhaps the whole point is just that the majority of members on A.net are people from the US. People tend to criticize their own country more than fo
53 Superfly : I never even knew of any sort of rivalry until I came to Airliners.net and I've been an aviation buff all my life. Very true! It's sad that if one co
54 falstaff : I have traveled a fair amount in Germany and England in the last four years. I don't spend much time in big cities and I tend to hang out with locals
55 Post contains images Arrow : The mounties are on their way. And don't try to pay us off with any of those US "funny money" dollars. Canadians get lumped in with Americans all the
56 Venus6971 : Oh that's my problem, years of therapy wasted, it figures a German would figure it out.[Edited 2011-02-16 11:22:44 by srbmod]
57 CharlieNoble : Love that Kate. I've had little interest at all in Royalty until very recently. As for the rest, I don't suppose our men deployed in today's conflict
58 Braybuddy : I think this may be a case of proportionality than bias: I just checked the top 30 threads in Civil Av and 11 are US-related, while over in Non Av the
59 Post contains images Stabilator : Speaking of funny money, one thing I hate is when I pass a gumball machine and pull out a quarter, only to realize it's a Canadian quarter. No Gumbal
60 flyorski : That makes sense. It does not have to be taken so seriously when people trash-talk one nation. Although it can get very old very quickly. Also the U.
61 Post contains images wn700driver : No kidding! But I think that's just a new-money kind of thing. Not the same, but I would say related to same phonomenon whereby people (especially he
62 Post contains images TheCommodore : Brilliant point. And what about all the US political (bashing) threads, most, if not ALL are started by people from the US. Buy yet when "others" (no
63 JakeOrion : For the most part, true. Nobody is dying to go through LAX or MIA for example. To be fair, in my opinion, LHR is the worst airport I've ever had to t
64 dc9northwest : Let's see... I disagree with the statement about US airports. While not "excellent" or "amazing", I would not call any US airport awful. I have been
65 richm : NOTICE: A number of posts were removed from this thread due to being in violation of the forum rules. May I remind you all to post in a civil manner,
66 Post contains images Superfly : The problem is much deeper than that. The new moneyed Russians often has a mafia element to it and they have an tendency to completely take over an a
67 Post contains images Lufthansa411 : Sorry, should have been more clear: There is a big difference between a poorly maintained a/c and a well maintained a/c, whether it be a DC-9 or an A
68 Post contains images Superfly : 80s? That's a brand new airline. Many of the fmr. Northwest DC-9s were delivered in the late 1960s & early 1970s. I wish there were more 707s in
69 richm : NOTICE: This thread is now closed as a result of numerous rule violations. Any posts submitted after this will be removed for housekeeping purposes on
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