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Moving To Newark, NJ; Help!  
User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1765 times:
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I heard it's scary around the airport, but I need to be inside a 30 minute ride to get to work. I've heard good things about Westfield, NJ. I've got a six figure salary to work with, but I'll be paying state tax for the first time in my life. All comments or thoughts are welcome.

  

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User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

I was born and raised in NJ I sent you a PM let me know if I can help....


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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1727 times:

Welcome to the Greater New York area! There is no shortage of great areas to live in within 30 minutes of EWR.

Things to consider are what your extra curricular interests are. Are school districts important? or is proximity to NYC a plus? Prefer to live out further South so you're closer to the great beaches on the Jersey Shore?

Some areas to consider are:

EAST: Jersey City, Hoboken: 5-mt Access to NYC, PATH train to EWR.

NORTH: Clifton, Montclair etc along Rte 3 - Solid Residential neighborhoods.

WEST: Millburn, Short Hills, Summit - upscale, 15 minutes to EWR. Best schools. On I-78. NJ Transit Train.

SOUTH Middletown, Holmdale - South on Garden State Parkway - towards Jersey Shore, 30 minutes to EWR, NJ Train service.

All of these places are quite safe. EWR, by the way, is not exactly in the same neighborhood as downtown Newark.

I am sure stratosphere can give you the real scoop.


User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 2):
NORTH: Clifton, Montclair etc along Rte 3 - Solid Residential neighborhoods.

Thats what I told him in my PM I grew up in Totowa which is close to Clifton. Me personally I like south better (closer to the shore). You gave him some good options to consider. I don't really know if his assignment is permanent or not. He says he has to be 30 mins or less maybe there is a reason for that. Anyway I left him a PM I have friends there who might be able to help.



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User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

I've got some rope.    Don't forget your nose plugs. You won't be paying taxes, you'll be having them confiscated from your paycheck. Good luck.

User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

Quoting dxing (Reply 4):
I've got some rope.    Don't forget your nose plugs. You won't be paying taxes, you'll be having them confiscated from your paycheck. Good luck.

And let the brutal assaults begin.....lol



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User currently offlineEASTERN From United States of America, joined May 2009, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1643 times:

Staten Island, New York is another option. It's a nice, suburban borough of New York City. Depending on the time of day, commuting to EWR does not take a long time especially if you live close to the Staten Island Expressway. The Expressway runs directly to the Goethals Bridge, leaving you only an exit away from EWR on the NJ Turnpike. EZ Pass has an NJ Bridges Tolls package that allows you discounted toll payment into New Jersey, as long as you cross a minimum amount of times a month. I live in South Brooklyn, 15-20 minutes from Staten Island, and would even consider EWR as a viable option for myself in my current location. Real estate is very affordable at the moment in Staten Island, there is a beach, and it's just close enough to New York City so that you can reap the benefits of the city while living close to your work.

Of course, this is the standpoint of a native New Yorker.  



P from NYC
User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1605 times:
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Work schedule is highly erratic so it won't be (rarely) a 9-5p day. I'll be using EWR for travel 5-6x a month so It's imperative I can find a nice neighborhood relatively close.

Quoting comorin (Reply 2):

I heard Westfield and Jersey City are good ideas. Thoughts?

Quoting dxing (Reply 4):
I've got some rope.

I'm already freaked out enough.   

Quoting EASTERN (Reply 6):
Staten Island, New York is another option.

How would taxes compare? What about drive time? I'd prefer to use my car with work being highly time critical I can't have public transportation being late.

Where can I get a good dog? Nathan's weren't that great last time I was there. Any other advice is appreciated.


User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 7):
Quoting comorin (Reply 2):

I heard Westfield and Jersey City are good ideas. Thoughts?

I'll defer to stratosphere on Westfield.

Jersey City and Hoboken are both off a spur of the NY Turnpike that leads to the Holland Tunnel. These communities became gentrified in the sense that a lot of younger people getting jobs in Manhattan needed an affordable place to stay. Wall Street also moved a substantial portion of its back office operations here. It's a mix of older residents, office buildings apartment complexes and brownstones.

It's a very convenient location, with lots of apartment complexes (Newport, Pavonia) and some brownstones. There are bars and restaurants, given the young demographic. However, it not the sort of place that you settle in for the long haul. If you're single, this would be a good choice. The access to NYC via PATH train is also unbeatable.

You'll have a really good time here once you move!


User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5521 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1582 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 7):
Where can I get a good dog? Nathan's weren't that great last time I was there. Any other advice is appreciated.

Rutt's Hut in Clifton. That is, if you like your hot dogs deep fried!


User currently offlinerl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4717 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

My cousin lives in an apt complex in Montclair right across the street from an NJ transit station, Its a nice neighborhood and very convenient.

Also the Ikea there is right across from the airport which, their cafe looks out at the airport. (Just dont go on a weekend because there were way too many screaming kids)



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User currently offlineEASTERN From United States of America, joined May 2009, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1549 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 7):
How would taxes compare? What about drive time? I'd prefer to use my car with work being highly time critical I can't have public transportation being late.

I believe taxes in New York are sightly higher, although Jersey isn't exactly a low-tax state.

Driving time isn't too bad. I just did a quick MapQuest of my aunt's place to EWR. She's off the first exit on the Staten Island Expressway after you come over the bridge from Brooklyn. She's a little over 15 miles from EWR. I've done that drive in no time before.



P from NYC
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

Quoting EASTERN (Reply 11):
I believe taxes in New York are sightly higher, although Jersey isn't exactly a low-tax state.

I believe it's the other way around, but the two are going to be similar.

IMHO, if you're going to live in Staten Island, you might as well live in Jersey City. For one, access to Manhattan is easier, either by PATH or ferry. For another, you don't have deal with the tolls going across the bridges to get to EWR, which do start to add up eventually.

I work out in the Morristown/Florham Park area, which is quite nice, and within 30 minutes of EWR. There's a train line that takes about an hour to get to the city. Not sure about the housing market there, though.

-Mir



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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4059 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1537 times:

Quoting EASTERN (Reply 11):
I believe taxes in New York are sightly higher, although Jersey isn't exactly a low-tax state.

Besides paying NY state taxes, living in Staten Island, which is technically a part of NYC, you will also have to pay an extra 3.5% to Mike Bloomberg for the privilege of living in that rat-infested hell-hole of a city. Not that you will get any extra services out of that 3.5% - public schools still suck, streets are dirtier than pretty much anywhere else you can go in the U.S. and don't get cleaned out properly when it snows, etc. I would stay away from it if I at all could.



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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1537 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
I work out in the Morristown/Florham Park area, which is quite nice, and within 30 minutes of EWR. There's a train line that takes about an hour to get to the city. Not sure about the housing market there, though.

I worked in Morristown until last year. I telecommuted, but went to Morristown 4-6 times per year. It is a gorgeous little town, though it's very expensive.

Make sure you go to the Ironbound section of Newark for an excellent Portuguese meal. I am a smalltown girl and I have no worries going into the Ironbound.



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User currently offlinepilotsmoe From United States of America, joined May 2005, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 13):

And of course you leave out all the good things about living in NYC. Sure, it doesn't come cheap, and it has its downsides, but it's nothing like you make it out to be.

Still, I would agree that if you're going to pay NYC tax rates, you can do far better than Staten Island, which is just too isolated.

-Mir



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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4059 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1493 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 16):
And of course you leave out all the good things about living in NYC. Sure, it doesn't come cheap, and it has its downsides, but it's nothing like you make it out to be.

I happen to live in NYC, so I do know a thing or two of how things are in that city. Fact is, the 3.5% tax rate is pure extortion.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 17):
Fact is, the 3.5% tax rate is pure extortion.

Unfortunately, the city is broke at the moment, so it's going to have to stick around. But the finances are getting better, so maybe it comes down in a couple of years.

-Mir



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User currently offlineEASTERN From United States of America, joined May 2009, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 16):
Still, I would agree that if you're going to pay NYC tax rates, you can do far better than Staten Island, which is just too isolated.

This is true, however I suggested Staten Island because of its proximity to EWR. And I would always choose NY over NJ.   This is, of course, the native New Yorker in me.



P from NYC
User currently offlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3722 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

I once lived in Jersey City. Living near PATH was indispensable.

User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1418 times:

Quoting mham001 (Reply 20):
I once lived in Jersey City. Living near PATH was indispensable.

Very true. Both Exchange Place and Newport/Pavonia are ideal stops. I visit my lawyer once a week in JC at a Portuguese place called Lisbon for liquid lunch.


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3309 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1371 times:
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Quoting fxramper (Reply 7):
I heard Westfield and Jersey City are good ideas. Thoughts?

My girlfriend lives in Westfield, so I've spent a good amount of time there.

Right now, the commute is a bit annoying if you work anywhere but Newark, as you have to change trains there, but soon NJ Transit will receive dual-power locomotives to go right into NY Penn Station.

The downtown area is GREAT, with lots of fantastic restaurants and stores. A very wealthy area with a great school district and lots to do. Clark, Roselle, and Garwood are all nearby and offer their own pluses and minuses.

You can't go wrong in Westfield (as long as you can afford it). I don't know how many "future" considerations are in your decision, but it's a great place to raise children and despite all the awful things there are about NJ (as a New Yorker I can't forget to mention the smells), Westfield is a very nice exception to the rule.

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User currently offlineskygirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 451 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

I'm so glad that you're finally moving out here, especially with the engagement and all. Even though EWR is still 4 hours away from DC, I suppose we'll find a way to make it work. The good news is there's a bus that goes from DC to NYC, and it's pretty inexpensive so that will help. And in the summertime, we'll be close to the beach!! AAAH, I'm so excited!!!


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User currently offlinenicksair From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 484 posts, RR: 45
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1345 times:

Quoting skygirl (Reply 23):
I'm so glad that you're finally moving out here, especially with the engagement and all. Even though EWR is still 4 hours away from DC, I suppose we'll find a way to make it work. The good news is there's a bus that goes from DC to NYC, and it's pretty inexpensive so that will help. And in the summertime, we'll be close to the beach!! AAAH, I'm so excited!!!

Dibs on me being one of the bridesmaids!  

Nick



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25 Post contains links STT757 : New Jersey is the second wealthiest State in the Nation, EWR is in both Essex (Newark) and Union (Elizabeth) counties. Both of which have affluent co
26 STT757 : Jersey City's waterfront is excellent for young people, tons of brand new luxury condos with great access to EWR, NYC etc.. It's also adjacent to Hob
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