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German Autobahn, Slightly Too Fast...  
User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3333 times:
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I am sure many of you heard some nice stories about the German Autobahn and no speed limit.

There are many parts of the Autobahn where you can go as fast as your car can take you. But there are areas where you have a speed limit of 80 km/h, 100, 120, 130...

Now I read an article about a 22 year old guy who was 190 km/h too fast! 100 was the speed limit and he was doing 290...
Here is the report in German though:

http://www.focus.de/politik/schlagzeilen/nid_68093.html

The police followed him for 30 minutes and had trouble to stay behind him to catch him. Finally they cought him... Will lose his drivers licence for 3 months and have to pay € 1,800....

Pretty stupid....

wilco737
  


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User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1586 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3311 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Thread starter):
German Autobahn

Mmmmhhh the Autobahn    Such a pity the rest of the country is full of Germans     
Quoting wilco737 (Thread starter):
Now I read an article about a 22 year old guy who was 190 km/h too fast! 100 was the speed limit and he was doing 290...

Holy F-! Any word on what car he used for this?!



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3295 times:
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Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
Such a pity the rest of the country is full of Germans

   Nicely said  The Problem these days is the traffic. Usually only at night you can go fast, all the other time it is rather full and you'd better go that fast.

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
Holy F-! Any word on what car he used for this?!

No, nothing about the car... Would be interesting though.

wilco737
  



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User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1393 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Thread starter):
German Autobahn

  

Quoting wilco737 (Thread starter):
100 was the speed limit and he was doing 290...

What an irresponsible person, that 100 km/h limit is there for a reason. Had he just gone a little east or north of Hamburg there would be plenty of "space to race".

I personally never drive faster than 190/200, that's about the speed you're still in control and are pretty fast back to normal 130 speeds. Anything above 200 in my opinion is crazy.

  



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User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1586 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 3):
Quoting wilco737 (Thread starter):
100 was the speed limit and he was doing 290...

What an irresponsible person, that 100 km/h limit is there for a reason.



Indeed. Last winter I did a slip-course (don't know if that's the correct English term), recovering from spins and making emergency stops. One part was emergency stops at different speeds, the difference in stopping distance between for example 90km/h and 120km/h is quite impressive. The stopping distance when going 290km/h should be in the neighborhood of 0.5 - 1 km, way too long in virtually all cases where you have to stop quickly.



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User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3266 times:

Looks like a BMW 7-series:
http://www.citynewstv.de/11.0.html?&...h=51a26d59f10711cffd82b9f8b1098991


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7035 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3250 times:

That's not a standard 7 series if it hit 290!!

User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3245 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 6):
That's not a standard 7 series if it hit 290!!

Yeah, the article mentions it didn't have the electronic limiter (or it was overridden / dissengaged)... I imagine there are ways to override these things using aftermarket chips or the like.

eta: cops didn't do too bad either btw although it was said they had a hard time keeping up... looks like they gave chase in an unmarked Benz.

[Edited 2011-03-29 01:56:15]

User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3239 times:
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Quoting Severnaya (Reply 3):
What an irresponsible person, that 100 km/h limit is there for a reason.

Exactly...

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 6):
That's not a standard 7 series if it hit 290!!

Nope, and it is not the latest model.

Quoting flood (Reply 7):
Yeah, the article mentions it didn't have the electronic limiter (or it was overridden / dissengaged)... I imagine there are ways to override these things using aftermarket chips or the like.

It is even legal to get rid of the limiter. When I bought my 300 HP Mercedes I asked him as well to get rid of it. He said, no problem, just give me € 1,600 and we can do that. Oh and think about new tires which are approved for these high speeds...
So I said, errmmm, no thanks. 250 is ok... and the limiter gives you a little more, so I was able to do 260 km/h which is fast enough...

wilco737
  



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3239 times:
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Quoting flood (Reply 7):
looks like they gave chase in an unmarked Benz.

There are many unmarked police cars out there on the Autobahn. They drive around and look for people who behave badly. And then they catch you and you are in trouble.

wilco737
  



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User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9095 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3181 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
Such a pity the rest of the country is full of Germans

don't worry, we stay as clear as we can when we see a yellow licence plate...  

unless his last name was Vettel that was too fast for an inexperienced 22 year old. He should be a bit older before making rotation speed.

What makes me wonder however is how that guy could keep the speed all the way, he must have been coming from Fehmarn down to the A24 junction and at 290 kmh that should take less than 30 minutes. Porbably police could catch up only because he was occasionally held up in traffic.



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 10):
What makes me wonder however is how that guy could keep the speed all the way, he must have been coming from Fehmarn down to the A24 junction

Nope. The article linked in reply #5 says the car, occupied with 4 people, was driving north between Billstedt and Öjendorf.
It had Polish license plates; driver was a Brazilian national.
Some illegal drugs were found which were attributed to a passenger but not the driver.
Car then was stopped only after it had left the motorway in Jenfeld.
-HT



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10582 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

Sounds like something that Ghaddafi´s son did when in Munich. He got away always due to his diplomatic status.

A Spaniard I know who is an avid sportscar driver for long and who currently owns a tuned Porsche 911 Turbo said to me just last week he sometimes enters the motorway at 5 in the morning to go a bit faster than the limit. His record: 320 km/h. Thats also 190 above the limit I´d say. Crazy guy he is.


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3153 times:

Hamburg (dpa) - Tempo 290 has reached a young speedster in Hamburg - allows nearly 200 kilometers per hour faster than. The man fell from the police on a traffic stop on the highway first There, only 100 km is allowed. The police had difficulty following the 22-year-olds. They drove about 30 minutes behind him - and the man could stop only when he drove off the A24. His co-driver had small amounts of drugs with us. The drivers expect three months driving ban and a fine of 1800 €.

This is what Google translate gave me..   



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User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1586 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 10):
Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
Such a pity the rest of the country is full of Germans

don't worry, we stay as clear as we can when we see a yellow licence plate...

Hehe touché  

Although I am one of those rare Dutch that actually keep the lef lane free, I don't have a fast German car so I have no business being there. Did reach 220 on the middle lane though, in a Suzuki Swift!! (downhill and downwind)



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User currently offlinewingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2181 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

For a lot of great night video on the autobahn you can look up the Ruf test runs on You Tube where the factory driver "authenticates" the top speed of every modified Porsche they deliver. Unfortunately this is not a service provided by the US Ruf tuning center in Texas. I have to say it's a bit unsettling to watch the divider lines whip past the car at 320 KPH when the headlights are only illuminating them at a 100-150 yds out. I always fear a traveling Bull Moose might find his way to Germany and atomize a new 911 Ruf Turbo by accident.

User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1011 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2998 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 10):
don't worry, we stay as clear as we can when we see a yellow licence plate...

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Quoting wilco737 (Thread starter):
Will lose his drivers licence for 3 months and have to pay € 1,800

Quite a lenient punishment IMO. In other countries, you pay much more for speeding, and you might even end up in jail. I am glad that nothing happened here. Very often I see articles in the newspaper about (serious) accidents involving ~20 year-old, irresponsible drivers.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19275 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2923 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 10):

unless his last name was Vettel that was too fast for an inexperienced 22 year old. He should be a bit older before making rotation speed.

Rotation speed for what? An F-16? A 747 typically hits Vr at...what... 200 kph? 250 max?


User currently onlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6293 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 11):
It had Polish license plates; driver was a Brazilian national.

Dude gets around! I guess when you drive that fast, the world is a lot smaller.


User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9095 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 14):
Although I am one of those rare Dutch that actually keep the lef lane free,

good man:  
Quoting HT (Reply 11):
Nope. The article linked in reply #5 says the car, occupied with 4 people, was driving north between Billstedt and Öjendorf.

Did not read the link, whatever, that doesn't take 30 minutes, least not at that kind of speed.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 16):
Quite a lenient punishment IMO. I

we should be glad about that and keep it that way. Such extremes are very rare, in relation to the number of cars on the road. I generally, most of the time, go between 10 and 20 kmh over the limit and I have zero point in the central register. If you keep it under 20 kmh over the limit, not much happens., Police in unmarked cars gets interested at 40 kmh over the limit and reckless driving. Still, we are one of the saftes countries worldwide, not only when it comes to driving.



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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2594 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 11):
driver was a Brazilian national

Ayrton Senna Jr. ?   


User currently offlinerlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2725 times:

I drive the autobahn daily and I usually limit my speed to 160-180kmh (100 - 110 mph) basically because faster uses an extreme amount of gasoline for the small saving in time. Also it just cannot be good for the motor. It would be like you Americans driving on the freeway in 2nd gear at 5000rpm.


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User currently offlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1199 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2649 times:
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Quoting travelavnut (Reply 14):
(downhill and downwind)

You forgot The Sun in your back   

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User currently offlinePeterPuck From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
Rotation speed for what? An F-16? A 747 typically hits Vr at...what... 200 kph? 250 max?

757 typical rotation is around 260 to 280 km/h.

An improved climb takeoff may rotate well over 300.


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4679 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
Mmmmhhh the Autobahn Such a pity the rest of the country is full of Germans

Sticker on a Dutch car:

"ALS JE DIT KUNT LEZEN BEN IK MIJN SLEURHUT VERLOREN !"   



Exceptions confirm the rule.
25 Mir : That's it? He got off very easy IMO - loss of license for a year would have been a good starting point. -Mir
26 bps3458 : Boy, am I looking forward to a couple of days back home in May and taking my rent-a-car for a ride on the A7 down to Hannover. I love living Down Unde
27 Post contains images aerorobnz : Not a bad return really... that would have me in front of a judge here on a DD charge. So he's a footballer then... in which case no licence and a sm
28 Post contains images wilco737 : Speeding in Germany isn't very expensive. A little bit too fast in the city is only €15 (I think around 10km/h too fast) up to 20 too fast it is
29 Post contains images travelavnut : Ow damn, sometimes I'm (very) ashamed of my fellow Dutchies My parents do this, go to Germany of France with their freaking sleurhut (caravan, or dra
30 na : You´re right, but if it comes to little misbehavings as driving 10 km/h too fast in town or 20 on the autobahn thats ok, because that so easily done
31 racko : Come on, he's innocent. How is he supposed to read the speed limit signs at 290km/h?
32 Mir : Which is sensible. But when you're talking about 190km/h too fast, things change a bit. -Mir
33 Post contains images airtrainer : 30 minutes at that speed...add a few minutes and they would have been able to cover the entire lenght of Belgium, east to west ! Not sure if they woul
34 lh526 : Yet speeding alone in Germany is still a misdemeanor .. not a crime.[Edited 2011-03-30 08:02:53]
35 MD11Engineer : Depending on the exact circumstances (mainly if he almost caused an accident by speeding e.g. in a curve or intersection with bad visibility), they mi
36 rlwynn : For sure most Belgian roads are in better shape than roads in Germany. Except in the east where they got all the money to modernize the road system.
37 JL418 : How come the Autobahnpolizei revoked this kid's licence for just three months? I know some people who got their licence lifted for as much time just b
38 NoUFO : Because that's the maximum. It's called license suspension and is basically imposed on the spot. The "kid" could lose his driving license for good as
39 LJ : Well both trucks and those with a caravan should drive 80km/h and should remain on the right lane... However, they usually end up in the middle lane
40 MD11Engineer : The cops can tell a traffic rules violator to hand the driving licence over (and sometimes the car keys as well). Basically they tell to the perp tha
41 JL418 : Thanks Jan, didn't know that. Here it works quite differently, at least as far as alcohol is concerned. Anyway, I do hope this guy gets his licence s
42 fridgmus : Pardon my ignorance, but could somebody please translate these to English? Thanks, F
43 MD11Engineer : First quote (from German): "Black letters on yellow background (refering to Dutch number plates), keep your distance and you will stay healthy" Secon
44 Larshjort : Black writing on yellow base, keep distance, stay healthy. Dutch number plates are black on yellow. /Lars
45 AirPacific747 : I drove from Essen, Germany to Denmark yesterday, and damn - many people are driving really fast.. I was doing a good 140 km/h, and many people were s
46 NoUFO : I am very much hoping the Italian police is not going to replace courts. Police can can confiscate a driver's licence (and the keys as Jan has stated
47 JL418 : If I understood well, in the case of driving while intoxicated, police (or carabinieri, for that matter), can stop you, confiscate your licence and f
48 PanHAM : Drunk driving is always intentionally, whereas killing someone in an accident is - at least can be accidentally. If you are not intoxicated (drugs or
49 airtrainer : Seriously ? I rarely drive in Germany but I've never noticed anything wrong on the roads.
50 garpd : €1,800 hardly seems enough. Nor does a 3 month ban. The guy was doing almost triple the speed limit! My brother was on the autobahn last month, driv
51 PanHAM : your brother lied to you. That would have cost € 70,00 plus charges of about € 25,00 and no points.May be he was doing 125 kmh over the limit.
52 Post contains images travelavnut : And the Belgian highway at least isn't one of the smoothest roadsurfaces out there... Not to mention the lack of good signage
53 Post contains images airtrainer : Will take the for myself, you're absolutely right, haha !
54 alsberg : I wish there were a like button for this.
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