kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12877 posts, RR: 35 Posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1907 times:
It's been revealed that Jennifer Garner, a very attractive actress in her 30s, is to play a role always played by - and intended to be played by - an actress in her 50s and 60s; Joan Hickson, Angela Lansbury, the great Margaret Rutherford and more recently, Geraldine McEwan (my personal favourite) have all played the role.
I don't get this decision. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure JG is a superb actress, but have the producers not actually read Agatha Christie's Miss Marple books, from which is should be clear that it's intended to be played by an actress of mature years? It's not just the change in the actress's age that I find annoying; either stick to the script, or make a new detective series. If you change that, what else needs to change; will a capable young detective in her 30s be comfortable in the idyllic little village of St. Mary Mead? Or will they decide to set it in a bigger town. Mrs. Marple's enduring success, apart from the cleverness of the mysteries, lies in people being beguiled by this innocent looking granny, never suspecting her to be a sleuth; will suspects respond the same way to a svelte, business like 30 year old (even with make up)?
There are so many hugely capable older actresses, not necessarily British ... Maggie Smith, Zoe Wanamaker, Sue Johnston, Jennifer Saunders (that would be fun!), Glenn Close, Harriet Sansom Harris (who played Frasier's agent, Bebe Glazer, superbly), and many more. It must be very dispiriting to older actresses when roles meant for people of their age are rewritten and given to younger actresses.
Hopefully people will see sense; JG has a superb career ahead of us and maybe she will get to play Miss* Marple in 30 years' time, but for now, let's stick to the text!
(*Yes, I've just noticed that I've written "Mrs" Marple in the title ... D'oh!)
fridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1888 times:
I think Hollywood is just trying to do what they've been doing for a long time, cash in on the younger viewing market.
And not to mention that there isn't much originality in Hollywood anymore. All the good, talented writers retired years ago and were replaced with mostly moronic writers who couldn't hold an original thought in their head if they tried.
Yes, I'm sure there are some good ones, but I don't know who they are. Maybe some of you can shed light on that?
Good post Kaitak, very good.
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Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21592 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1867 times:
Quoting fridgmus (Reply 1): I think Hollywood is just trying to do what they've been doing for a long time, cash in on the younger viewing market.
Miss Marple "appealed" to me particularly when I was younger β in the form of the very much grandmotherly and absolutely unforgettable Margaret Rutherford who I've never "identified" with in the generational sense.
This progressive dumbing-down of movie marketing is probably one of the biggest problems there, combined with bizarrely exaggerated budgets and revenue expectations.
I'm sure there are still a few good writers somewhere, they just have a lot less freedom under these circumstances, it appears.
Quoting kaitak (Thread starter): If you change that, what else needs to change; will a capable young detective in her 30s be comfortable in the idyllic little village of St. Mary Mead? Or will they decide to set it in a bigger town.
To be fair any Agatha Christie adaptation is probably better off being produced for TV, not as a feature film. Too many changes will be made in order to spice it up for todays audiences and the project will be ruined.
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wn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1753 times:
Quoting fridgmus (Reply 1): All the good, talented writers retired years ago and were replaced with mostly moronic writers who couldn't hold an original thought in their head if they tried.
Good Point. But not quite the whole story there. As someone who once made a few bucks on the side writing short fiction, I can say that outright lack of creativity may not be the issue. In my case, what I consider to be my best (and certainly favorite) work never ended up seeing the light of day. The reason? Audience appeal. I've had more than a few editors ask if they could hang on to stories I've written for their own entertainment, even though they couldn't publish it for those reasons. And, OTHO, I've had work that I'm not honestly proud of earn decent ratings too. That's life I guess. Anyway, it's a factor publications use to determine how well something might sell, and I'm sure it applies to Hollywood all the more so.
I would submit that the problem isn't lack of creativity, but a focus group mentality that severely regulates what gets airtime and what doesn't.
I'm not saying that these writers aren't moronic, but I just think there's more to it than that. . .
Kent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1707 times:
Quoting kaitak (Thread starter): and intended to be played by - an actress in her 50s and 60s; Joan Hickson, Angela Lansbury, the great Margaret Rutherford and more recently, Geraldine McEwan (my personal favourite) have all played the role.
I agree about Geraldine McEwan, although Julia McKenzie has been quite good recently.
Unless they do great makeup and Jennifer Garner can do a 55+yo woman perfectly, this idea is simpy stupid. But it is Disney, and it is to be set in the US......
Crappy acting skills, and an unattractive sad and pouty face. Ever see her in Juno or The Kingdom? Just painful. And come to think of it, wasn't she in some movie about being a little girl who suddenly becomes a 30ish year old woman? Just an absolutely atrocious rip-off of Tom Hank's Big.