kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12595 posts, RR: 34 Posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1498 times:
It's just being reported in the British media that an active RN serviceman has been arrested after killing one of his colleagues and injuring another in a shooting incident. The incident took place on board the HMS Astute (which last year ran aground in Scotland). As if to make the incident more embarrassing to the Royal Navy, the incident took place while the Mayor of Southampton was on board, as part of an official visit.
connies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1279 times:
Quoting kaitak (Thread starter): It's just being reported in the British media that an active RN serviceman has been arrested after killing one of his colleagues and injuring another in a shooting incident. The incident took place on board the HMS Astute (which last year ran aground in Scotland). As if to make the incident more embarrassing to the Royal Navy, the incident took place while the Mayor of Southampton was on board, as part of an official visit.
This might be construed as an impediment to further career progression !
Wow ! Condolences to the family of the deceased sailor.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14139 posts, RR: 63
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
The gunman was actually disarmed and overpowered by a politician, the Southhampton City council leader Smith, who, together with other civilians, was on a guided tour through the ship. Another civilian helped him to hold the sailor down until other crewmembers and the police took over. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-13022096
Quote: The council leader, who once served in the RAF, was aboard the submarine as part of a civic party, which also included the city council's mayor Carol Cunio and chief executive Alistair Neill.
Describing what happened, Mr Smith said: "We were in the control room when someone entered and there was an exchange of words.
"He [the gunman] stepped out with another man and two shots were fired and then he entered the control room again and began shooting again."
"It was a very small, confined space - we would struggle not to be in the line of fire.
"He had a magazine with 30 rounds in it so I took the view that someone had to stop him.
"At some point I decided that the best form of defence was to try to disarm him. I guess I'm lucky he did not hit me.
"He fired again while I had hold of the weapon. I had a strange feeling. I was not sure if I'd been hit - it didn't hurt - but I wasn't thankfully.
"I pushed him against the wall and we wrestled, then I pushed him into another wall which resulted in him going to the ground and I managed to get the weapon from him and threw it aside under a table.
"I shouted for someone to help as I held him down and my chief executive was the first to come, and he did a remarkable job of restraining him.
"After a minute or two he became compliant. He was thrashing around and was not going to give up easily."
GST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1114 times:
Certainly an unexpected and shocking thing to happen on a military vessel. My condolences go to the deceased sailor, and my hopes to the wounded. Massive respect to those that managed to restrain the gunman and curtail the violence.
All in all, Astute hasn't had a great time of it so far, here's to hoping that changes. Unlucky dubbed ships have often been the ones to deliver the goods when the crunch time comes though.