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MS Republicans Want Interracial Marriage Illegal  
User currently offlineZentraedi From Japan, joined Jun 2007, 660 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4121 times:

46% of Mississippi Republicans still think interracial marriage should be illegal. In fact, there are more that think it should be illegal (46%), than legal (40%)

Quote:
We asked voters on this poll whether they think interracial marriage should be legal or illegal- 46% of Mississippi Republicans said it should be illegal to just 40% who think it should be legal.
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....ur-bryant-lead-in-mississippi.html

Wow,in this day and age...

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User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

quote=Zentraedi,reply=0

46% of Mississippi Republicans still think interracial marriage should be illegal. In fact, there are more that think it should be illegal (46%), than legal (40%)

Zentraedi..........I will "attempt" to throw some light on this; I have no way of knowing if you have ever been to the U.S., if you live here, or whatever, but it is like this: there exists, among people of all countries the world over, a very common "trait"; this "trait" is NOT "natural", that is, new born infants are NOT born with it, they LEARN it from adults as they are growing up. Where does this "trait" come from? That's very difficult to answer, but for most of the past 50 or so years, I have been chalking it up to.......human nature. It is not the nature of human beings to be kind, sympathetic to others, etc.
It is more "natural" for humans to be like animals in a jungle; eat the next guy before he eats me! Fortunately, throughout much of the past few centuries, humans have made great strides, to being "kinder" towards one another. But the "trait" I speak of is still very much with us, but again, fortunately, even it is showing some signs of "improvement". The trait that I speak of is called "prejudice"; it's root cause is ignorance. (Has absolutely nothing what so ever to do with intelligence; ) Many very intelligent people are afflicted with it.
The young of any species tend to become like their parents, their older acquaintances, family members, and so on.

As for the United States, as I'm sure you probably know, it's only been a few hundred years that black people were brought to this country, ( mostly to the southern states), and were made to be slaves. Obviously, the U.S. has come a long way since then! But old customs, old ways of doing things, old ways of "looking at things" are very hard to change.

Actually, I'm very surprised that "the south" has changed as much as it has, as quickly as it has, but like every other part of this country, ( and like every other country ), a lot more "change" is needed.

In some ways, I was a little more fortunate when I was growing up than a lot of kids, as a white kid in a medium size town; my father never made a lot of money, he never went to college, but he fortunately didn't have that flawed trait of prejudice, so at least I didn't learn it at home. In grade school, I never knew a black kid; in Jr. High School, there were only three black kids, two were nice, but the third, John M. must have had "the trait", because he tried to give me a hard time, and he was pretty tough; finally I had my fill of his "attitude" and we "came to blows"; I didn't "win", but neither did he! We had no further problems after that! In High School, I got along great with all the black students. When I went into the Navy, some of my best friends were black guys. During 45 yrs or so of working for a living, I worked with many, many black guys, and some of them were the best friends I had. But as I finally made it to maybe my 50's , it dawned on me........
it really has nothing to do with what peoples skin color is, or what country their parents came from, it only matters what's in their character ! People, human beings, are all alike in so many ways; the only things that make them "different", that prevent them from peacefully co-existing, is the evil influence from ignorant people they have had to live around.

Take a good look around the world; do you see anyplace where everyone treats everyone else, nice and "warm and fuzzy" ? I don't think so.

You mentioned "in this day and age".........................I happen to live in a very small little "village" in western Indiana; we have maybe 200 people who live here year around; my very best friend's younger son has been in the Marine Corps for 8 or 9 years; while he was in Africa, he met a young lady, married her, and their little 5 yr old daughter is slightly "lighter" than her mom, but she is still quite obviously a black child; ( I might add, an exceptionally pretty, sweet little girl.)
There are MANY "red necks" in Indiana ! When my friend's daughter-in-law and their grand daughter come to visit, my friend "expected the worst"; he was amazingly relieved that no one said or did anything "stupid"; ( fortunately for them! )
My friend is only 5' 10", maybe 225, but he bench presses 400 lbs! And he knows no fear ! The guy would fight a mob in a heartbeat if it "became necessary". His son is smaller than his dad; but he has his dad's "genes", and the Marine Corps has taught him to "kill with his hands", and he has spent a lot of time teaching other marines how to do the same. So yes, inter-racial marriage can work, and it can work just fine, but there will always be ignorant people trying to keep it from working.

I must be very careful here, being on a public forum, but we have in this country a handful of people who wish to be rich, but they don't wish to "work" for a living, so they have "developed" a very clever "career", which has made them millions, all without working a lick! It's called "race-baiting"; ( I call it "stirring the pot"; ) They have made a career of telling black people how "oppressed" they are, how "unfair" the "system" is, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum; problem is, it's all BS ! Anyone who can't "make it" in the U.S.A. can't "make it" anyplace. And yes, there will always be a lot of people who can't make it anyplace.

So don't be too surprised that there a few "un-enlightened" Republicans in the deep south; there are probably a few in Indiana ! ( I just met our Governor a few months ago, and he's a pretty "cool" guy ! ) ( He rides a Harley )

Stick around till 2012; I think you are going to see a bunch more "change" in this country! ( but we will always have a lot of ignorant people; it's just human nature! )

Charley



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User currently offlinedfwrevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 978 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

Cherry picking quotes, statistics, and polls to paint one's opponents in a backwards light is as American as apple pie. A classic example is the "guess who said it game" with quotes from such forward-thinkers as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao:

http://thepeoplescube.com/QuoteQuiz/index.php

MS or the south in general is no different than the rest of the nation. I know plenty of interracial couples living happily in the southern United States, and I've seen some of the most shocking racism in my life in the "liberal" north east.


User currently onlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3128 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3875 times:

Quoting Zentraedi (Thread starter):
46% of Mississippi Republicans still think interracial marriage should be illegal. In fact, there are more that think it should be illegal (46%), than legal (40%)

Just for fun, now I want to be married to an Arab woman in a Mississippi Church and I want all MS Republicans in the event. I'm sure that will drive them mad.  



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User currently offlineronglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3856 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 3):
Just for fun, now I want to be married to an Arab woman....

In this case, aren't you more likely to have more serious problems from a different direction than the Mississippi Republicans?


User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5533 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3831 times:

I like the "cherry-picking" comment; I have seen and observed vastly more blatantly racist attitudes and actions in putatively-advanced places like Southern California and New York, than in the "racist" south.

Interesting phenomenon, actually.



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User currently offlinefuturepilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3826 times:

Quoting Zentraedi (Thread starter):
Mississippi Republicans

With this fact...you really find this surprising?



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3808 times:

Quoting Zentraedi (Thread starter):
46% of Mississippi Republicans ...Wow,in this day and age...



If they polled Mississippi Democrats or Independence do you think you think the outcome would be different?

Just ten (10) years ago 40% of all Alabama "all" voters voted to outlaw interracial marriage!


User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3526 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3785 times:
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Interesting how times change... Some of the most racist US politicians have been Southern Democrats...


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User currently offlineelmothehobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3769 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 1):
As for the United States, as I'm sure you probably know, it's only been a few hundred years that black people were brought to this country, ( mostly to the southern states), and were made to be slaves. Obviously, the U.S. has come a long way since then! But old customs, old ways of doing things, old ways of "looking at things" are very hard to change.

With due respect to your understanding of history, Blacks have been in this country longer than just about every other emigrant ethnic group in this country. There were large populations of slaves in what is now the United States for well over a hundred years before the Declaration of Independence.

Quoting dfwrevolution (Reply 2):
MS or the south in general is no different than the rest of the nation. I know plenty of interracial couples living happily in the southern United States, and I've seen some of the most shocking racism in my life in the "liberal" north east.

The key difference between the North and the South is that the South knows that it has problems with race. They've been through it, the key battlegrounds of the Civil Rights movement were overwhelmingly in the South. The North on the other hand, pretends that there are no racial problems, or they claim that "they are blind to race" or that we live in a post-racial society.

With that being said, the South itself is not necessarily more racist, instead it is more of a rural vs. urban divide. Rural folks, regardless of their geographic origin, are more likely to hold prejudiced views than urban residents.


User currently offlineZentraedi From Japan, joined Jun 2007, 660 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3756 times:

Quoting dfwrevolution (Reply 2):
MS or the south in general is no different than the rest of the nation. I know plenty of interracial couples living happily in the southern United States, and I've seen some of the most shocking racism in my life in the "liberal" north east.

Yet, you provide no evidence, only personal anecdotes.

Quoting 474218 (Reply 7):

If they polled Mississippi Democrats or Independence do you think you think the outcome would be different?

Just ten (10) years ago 40% of all Alabama "all" voters voted to outlaw interracial marriage!

To be honest, I think it would be slightly different.


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3666 times:

Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 10):
Yet, you provide no evidence, only personal anecdotes.

Dude, interracial couples are very COMMON in the south. If you want evidence you should pay a visit.



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User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2445 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3655 times:

Quoting Zentraedi (Thread starter):
MS Republicans Want Interracial Marriage Illegal  

Good Lord - don't they have much bigger fish to fry in Mississippi than this?!?



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19795 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3636 times:

Quoting dfwrevolution (Reply 2):
Cherry picking quotes, statistics, and polls to paint one's opponents in a backwards light is as American as apple pie. A classic example is the "guess who said it game" with quotes from such forward-thinkers as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao:

Actually, this is a nonpartisan polling firm that candidates on both sides use to form their campaign and political strategies. So if they came up with these numbers, they are as close to "true" as anyone is going to get.

A couple of years ago, a local official in Louisiana refused to allow an interracial couple to marry and he would up having to resign from his post. So it's not isolated by any means, and this poll is accurate. Yes, it's a smear, but it's a very true smear.

Quoting dfwrevolution (Reply 2):
Cherry picking quotes, statistics, and polls to paint one's opponents in a backwards light is as American as apple pie. A classic example is the "guess who said it game" with quotes from such forward-thinkers as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao:

This is a strange straw-man game that doesn't prove very much except not to trust platitudes from evil people. What they said and what they did are two very different things. It's like when the GOP's party platform wants "liberty for all" by banning gay marriage, recriminalizing sodomy, stepping up the war on drugs, etc.

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 8):
Some of the most racist US politicians have been Southern Democrats...

Everyone loves bringing this up, as if a group of Democrats from a half-century ago has anything to do with the modern DNC. When JFK pushed the Civil Rights legislation, those Democrats defected... to the GOP. And that's where they stayed.

I keep hearing people accusing the Democrats of being the "real" racists except that makes as much sense as accusing the Germans of being Nazis because they were 70 years ago.


User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3526 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3587 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):
Everyone loves bringing this up, as if a group of Democrats from a half-century ago has anything to do with the modern DNC. When JFK pushed the Civil Rights legislation, those Democrats defected... to the GOP. And that's where they stayed.

Thanks for misquoting me...

Any how... Southern Democrat George Wallace, for example, never went to the GOP... he was an independent....

..and ol' Georgie was certainly one of the most racist guys around...



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5654 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 14):
Thanks for misquoting me...

How does one misquote the only thing in your post?

For the record, Doc is right. Old-school Southern Democrats have absolutely no relation to the modern DNC, other than name.

Did you also know Honest Abe was a Republican? (Hint: that Republican Party has nothing to do with today's GOP either)

This has been your history lesson for today. Can we now please knock it off with the name calling?



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User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 14):
..and ol' Georgie was certainly one of the most racist guys around...

Not to go on too much of a tangent, but that may not be true. Just some interesting historical footnotes:

There is a strong case that Wallace wasn't particularly racist at all, but rather that he basically pretended to be a racist in order to be successful, pandering to the racist majority vote at the time. Wallace was an extremely progressive judge before he entered politics. And later in his gubernatorial career, when he didn't need to be a racist anymore, he pursued integrationist policies (and governmental hiring) at a rate that would have made most northern states blush.

Of course, pretending to be a racist in order to be successful is not exactly morally right. One might argue that it's even worse, because you don't have ignorance as an excuse.

One of my favourite songs, about 'the duality of the southern thing'.

JL



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3070 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 7):
If they polled Mississippi Democrats or Independence do you think you think the outcome would be different?



   What a cheap shot by these folks who took the "poll.".

It's based on family rearing, conservative or liberal , and judging behavior of a person herself/himself.

But the bias media would have it republicans only.  Wow!



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User currently offlinegoblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3486 times:

Well, I have nothing against it but I would believe the south has some deep hatred for interracial marriages. You can't change family blood and in most cases it runs in the family. Sad really.


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User currently offlinedfwrevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 978 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):
Actually, this is a nonpartisan polling firm that candidates on both sides use to form their campaign and political strategies.

Lot's of people claim to be non-partisan. Let's look at PPP's clientel:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Federal

Congressman Bob Etheridge (NC) - Democrat
Congressman Steve Kagen (WI) - Democrat
Congressman Brad Miller (NC) - Democrat
Congressman David Price (NC) - Democrat

State

Rep. Kelly Alexander (NC) - Democrat
Rep. Creighton Coleman (SC) - Democrat
Assemblyman Herb Conaway (NJ) - Democrat
Rep. Tricia Cotham (NC) - Democrat
Rep. Chandra Dillard (SC) - Democrat
Rep. Ryan Dvorak (IN) - Democrat
Rep. Craig Fry (IN) - Democrat
Treasurer Janet Cowell (NC) - Democrat
Justice Robin Hudson (NC) - Democrat
Judge Bob Hunter (NC) - Democrat

Organizations

Planned Parenthood Action Fund of Central NC
NC Sierra Club
North Carolina Democratic Party
North Carolina Democratic Senate Caucus
North Carolina Democratic House Caucus
North Carolina NAACP
NARAL Pro-Choice NC
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees
State Employees Association of North Carolina

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I wouldn't call that a balanced list, would you?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/clients.asp

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):
What they said and what they did are two very different things.

And the same couldn't be said of the population polled in this study? The question was not "would you lynch an interracial couple," it asked their thought on the matter. Frankly, comparing quotes of our elected officials to all those tyrants should be scarier since they actually have power.

But as I said before, I'm willing to toss out the b.s. on both sides because it isn't substantive.


User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 18):
You can't change family blood and in most cases it runs in the family. Sad really.

Of course you can change family blood, and that's no excuse for racism in any place. I am sure that all of us have certain things we believe in that our grandparents wouldn't have, for example.

JL



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19795 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3346 times:

Quoting dfwrevolution (Reply 19):

Lot's of people claim to be non-partisan. Let's look at PPP's clientel:

PPP was started by a Democrat but has been acknowledged by people on both ends of the spectrum to be very accurate.

Fact is that there are a lot of people in Mississippi who vote GOP who think that interracial marriage should be banned.

THIS is the base of many of the GOP candidates currently running for President and it scares the crap out of me.

And the bit that pisses me off is that these people are often the most vehement flag-wavers of all.


User currently offlinesan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3328 times:

Quoting sccutler (Reply 5):
I have seen and observed vastly more blatantly racist attitudes and actions in putatively-advanced places like Southern California

For the 88th time, Southern California outside of LA is NOT liberal. In fact, it's as conservative as the Deep South, if not more so.

Quoting sccutler (Reply 5):
New York

New York City itself is largely progressive, but in the suburbs (similar to the LA metro area) and outlying areas, there's much more conservative views.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):

I keep hearing people accusing the Democrats of being the "real" racists except that makes as much sense as accusing the Germans of being Nazis because they were 70 years ago.

Yeah, its amazing that people apparently don't seem to understand the different between the Dixiecrats of the 1950s and today's DNC. Your point is 100% correct- when JFK pushed civil rights, most of the Southern "Democrats" defected to the GOP- the party that truly aligned with their views.



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User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1386 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 1):
it really has nothing to do with what peoples skin color is, or what country their parents came from, it only matters what's in their character

So at least you fulfilled Dr. Martin Luther King's dream. Nice post by the way.

Quoting Martin Luther King:
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 8):
Interesting how times change... Some of the most racist US politicians have been Southern Democrats...


All of who switched to the Republican Party.
Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms just to name a few.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):
Everyone loves bringing this up, as if a group of Democrats from a half-century ago has anything to do with the modern DNC. When JFK pushed the Civil Rights legislation, those Democrats defected... to the GOP. And that's where they stayed.


  

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 15):
Did you also know Honest Abe was a Republican? (Hint: that Republican Party has nothing to do with today's GOP either)

This has been your history lesson for today. Can we now please knock it off with the name calling?


  
Well said!

Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 16):
And later in his gubernatorial career, when he didn't need to be a racist anymore, he pursued integrationist policies (and governmental hiring) at a rate that would have made most northern states blush.
Quoting san747 (Reply 22):
Southern California outside of LA is NOT liberal. In fact, it's as conservative as the Deep South, if not more so.


That is very true and he also begged for forgiveness from Black voters in the 1982 Gubernatorial election when he decided to go back in to politics.

Quoting san747 (Reply 22):
Yeah, its amazing that people apparently don't seem to understand the different between the Dixiecrats of the 1950s and today's DNC. Your point is 100% correct- when JFK pushed civil rights, most of the Southern "Democrats" defected to the GOP- the party that truly aligned with their views.


They understand but they pretend not to. There is a reason why David Duke ran as Republican and had more success than when he ran as a Democrat 4 years prior.



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25 AGM100 : Wow... I agree , if the poll is true it is seriously insane. I have been to the south alot ... seems like they are all getting along just fine to me.
26 DocLightning : The poll is true. Yup. Because they have the highest rate of unintended pregnancy. You can't seriously be insinuating that this is because Democrats
27 AGM100 : No .. I am not. But if the GOP framed the PP argument around race how would that work ? The choice weapon of the Dem's is race ...everything ...every
28 ALTF4 : You're scared that some people behind a candidate have wacked ideas? I'm sure we can dig up a metric crap ton of dirt on people who voted for Obama,
29 N1120A : 1) Basically all of Southern California outside San Diego County is classified as "L.A." 2) You are wrong about that anyway. There are heavily "liber
30 474218 : By whom? What about Orange County? The Inland Empire (Riverside/San Berardino)? Or the Antelope Valley (Palmdale/Lancaster/Quartz Hill)? The South Ba
31 Post contains links and images Confuscius : I believe Reagan's southern strategy was also a driving force. ------------- I wonder how many in the poll were white men who felt inadequate. ...tha
32 san747 : I know where I live, and I've lived in LA, OC, SD, and the Inland Empire since 1991. Yes, there are some liberal bastions besides LA, mainly when you
33 DocLightning : I'm scared that they want to use the law to force their opinions on other peoples' personal behavior. I wonder what YOU do that they want banned?
34 Santi319 : Wow!! They are soooo late in MS , hello? in the U.S. it is not cool to be racist against african-americans anymore! The "in" thing now is racism again
35 Post contains images Superfly : Those places all look alike so it's easy for people to think it's all LA. I do agree that there is more to southern California besides LA. There is a
36 Post contains links Confuscius : "Excuse me while I whip this out" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlDbv7MqE8
37 ALTF4 : The constituents will always want that, no matter what. I bet they want Obama to do that, too.
38 DocLightning : Very differently. The GOP has a problem with hatred in its ranks. Religious, racial, sexual. The DNC does not. The GOP has a history of opposing righ
39 Post contains images ImperialEagle : Really? Just because you say so? You are, of course, an expert on the people of Mississippi because you have lived there so long. Dude, you are truly
40 mham001 : Pretty ironic a guy in Japan is going on about racism in the US.
41 Post contains images AGM100 : Hatred? ... You wanna see hatred go to a few democrat rallies ... now that is hatred. An the antidote for this hatred is to spend ourselves into obli
42 Aesma : Well, McCarthyism already happened in the US, if I'm not mistaken.
43 AGM100 : In a cold war setting ? With a state of war in effect ... where the critical information of seeing a B-52 or a submarine and passing that information
44 DocLightning : BULL STOOL. The only hatred there is against people who are intolerant and hateful. I hate them, too. The only people I want to see violence against
45 ALTF4 : I'm a registered Republican. I don't see that among the people I know, which, trust me, a large portion of them are republican. I'd say I'm fairly op
46 AGM100 : Simple ..because the opposition uses it as a weapon . Obama himself is a classic example of using gay rights like a Bic lighter because he knows they
47 Post contains images mt99 : You are absolutely right. Could not agree with you more! "Birthers", calling Obama "Hussein".. its all part of the same game. BOTH parties are out th
48 11Bravo : ...., and that tactic is very effective when people like you, in one sentence no less, proceed to go off on loony-tune racist conspiracy rants. Serio
49 PPVRA : Unless you're going fully libertarian you should not use that sentence.
50 DocLightning : I think it's about half of the GOP in Mississippi. I think it's a good portion of GOPers who are passionately opposing any advance in gay rights and
51 AGM100 : I agree with you ... it is a easy emotional issue... and a big loser for the GOP. Ah Ah Ah ... careful .... you well know that the attack on the GOP
52 MD-90 : As someone who has lived for years in Starkville, Olive Branch, and Aberdeen, I assure you it's not. I want to read exactly how this controversial qu
53 Post contains links garnetpalmetto : It's right there: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_MS_0407915.pdf Do you think interracial marriage should be legal or illegal? Opt
54 BN747 : make? Make? Make the GOP appear racist..you did not just write that? No one has to lift a finger. Their entire voting positions have been on public d
55 DocLightning : It's the idea that if someone else does not have inherent dignity as a human being because they are black/gay/Muslim/Arab/Mexican/Jewish then it's OK
56 BN747 : Precisely, GOPers are lightening quick to de-humanize someone/ a people in order to justify denying them worth or value. They are even better at perm
57 Post contains links Zentraedi : Oh yes, because in modern Japan we often see things much worse than whites shooting 9 year Mexican girls in the face in Arizona and whites tying blac
58 ALTF4 : For all the hatred you guys claim to be against, there sure is a hell of a lot of hatred in this thread. Eye opening, to say the least. Once again, se
59 AGM100 : Is dignity found by receiving some "right" from the government ? .... Some compensation to make one feel "dignified". Not IMO ... Dignity comes from
60 Post contains links PPVRA : Hey check this out, you're gonna love these stats: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social...obama-signs_n_840392_82044393.html Oh never mind, I just no
61 DocLightning : No, it is found by a refusal to pass laws removing inalienable rights. And among these rights are freedom from discrimination in all forms. Barring r
62 Post contains images N1120A : Still "L.A." Still part of the "L.A." sprawl and driven by the city's economic engine. 1) I'm surprised you mentioned Quartz Hill - you live there or
63 AGM100 : I agree ... no one should have "rights" that infringe on others rights . But I would certainly argue that the "minorities" rights activists do in fac
64 BN747 : After all the discussions on race with your 'shared' view points it is now crystal clear where you stand. Minority rights activist have every right t
65 474218 : 1) I lived in Southern California for 41 years. I lived in San Diego, Inglewood, El Segundo and Palmdale. While I never lived in Quartz Hill I use to
66 AGM100 : :D You sure have a high regard for your party , oh and they think your stupid and cant care for yourself in return. Every liberal program puts the bu
67 BN747 : You haven't seen me trumpet them anywhere.and you couldn't be further from the truth. The DNC sucks, the GOP sucks worse - as listed above as to why.
68 DocLightning : Leaving affirmative action aside (because we'd agree on that issue), name one "special" right that a given race has asked for on a race basis. You ca
69 Post contains images ALTF4 : Your grouped us in together into a clump to begin with - I'm just going by what you started.... "GOP initiated action", as if we're one group, a sing
70 BN747 : Dead wrong, when speaking of the GOP in those terms it is the act of the party collectively. You certainly reading what you wish of that however, and
71 N1120A : Only by those who don't want to admit where the entirety of their economic engine exists.
72 pwm2txlhopper : I have to agree. Growing up in New England, my father was from Mississippi, so I've spent a lot of time there. I'll admit there's race issues there,
73 PPVRA : Advocating for economic liberty, however, is libertarian.
74 ALTF4 : I lol'd Oh, so when Herman Cain is put forward as a candidate, its the Republicans fault for trying to do make-up work after Obama by appealing to th
75 BN747 : Your still stuck on Cain and still managed to avoid providing GOP 'embracement and celebrated difference'...as expected, because you can't. As for Ca
76 BN747 : I don't understand this at all...what do you mean if one were in your shoes with regard to thsi particular subject? Please explain... BN747
77 ImperialEagle : That is exactly how it is. Doesn't matter if you are in Detroit, Chicago or Atlanta. The idea that racisim is exclusive to the south is tired and stu
78 jwenting : Didn't the last member of the KKK die last year. He was a United States senator for the Democratic Party, from a northern state...
79 DocLightning : "Libertarians are nothing but slave-owning anarchists who want police protection to allow them to continue owning slaves." -Kim Stanley Robinson.
80 BN747 : Yep, when I think of a Northern State...the 1st that comes to mind.. I think of West Virginia ..nooo tht'd be the 2nd, no maybe the 22nd...wait. And
81 Superfly : Excellent post! It's ironic that some people ignore the fact that all of those racist southern Democrats switched to the Republican party.
82 Post contains links BN747 : ..And for further proof that ignorance is guaranteed to be passed on for generations.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...sorba-replace-the-wo_n
83 Post contains links Superfly : Watch this anti-gay infomercial from the early 1960s. Homosexual Warning Video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3S24ofEQj4&feature=related
84 BN747 : ahhhh the good old Golden Age of America, when stupidity was in vogue ..esp among authority figures. I bet J. Edgar Hoover personally endorsed that v
85 474218 : I don't get it, is the man driving the 1959 Chevy a homosexual? Or is it the man in the 1960 Ford that picks up a hitchhiker? I guess the message of
86 474218 : The MS State Senate has 52 members 27 Republicans and 25 Democrats. Of the 25 Democrats 13 are black and 12 are white. So I guess you are correct tha
87 sccutler : The rhetoric here is pathetic. Virtually every assertion of "fact" contained hereinabove has been, in reality, an assertion of the respective poster's
88 AGM100 : As a reset to this issue . No American should deny that racism exists ... African Americans and others were treated horribly these sins are not to be
89 sccutler : Simple, clearly-written and insightful.
90 BN747 : The GOP record of social positions stands solidly on it's own record. If that's the best defense you can offer...the no defense would be more accepta
91 ALTF4 : Obama is a guy in black skin mouthing the same crap you'd hear from Pelosi, Clinton, and others. Why was his election such an impressive feat? After
92 DocLightning : And so the GOP solution is to ban gay families, mandate morality in the law (including criminalizing certain types of private sexual behavior), and e
93 BN747 : Oh good god, where do I begin... Aside from throwing out the 1st 'dem' names you can think of...do know anything about the people you just mentioned?
94 PPVRA : Oh, some ignorant guy who likes Marx (backdoor slavery) and doesn't understand the difference between anarchism and libertarianism. Typical of the le
95 san747 : PERFECT analogy.
96 PPVRA : This is utterly false BN747. You can take away official segregation policies but you will never make anyone less racist by punishing that person. In
97 Post contains images ALTF4 : Boy, you totally missed my point. I guess it went over your head. I was simply and ONLY trying to show you that there is no difference (despite the m
98 BN747 : Infact you couldn't be any more wrong. The official removal of segregation polices changed attitudes by the millions. Your poor understanding of huma
99 DocLightning : I understand the difference perfectly well. Libertarianism holds that even if an asteroid were heading for the Earth, the government should do nothin
100 sccutler : My point made in one sentence. In order for a statement such as this to have any pejorative meaning, one must first adopt as a premise that the socia
101 BN747 : my problem with the GOP was clearly stated and laid out above, apparently you jumped into this discussion leveling charges without reading what's bee
102 Post contains images DocLightning : That's a pretty bold statement. And it's spoken like an arrogant, ugly American who has never traveled to a country where the government doesn't work
103 SA7700 : This thread will be locked for further contributions as it has degenerated into an off topic debate, riddled with insults. Please note that any posts
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