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Gov. Rick Snyder Imposes Financial Martial Law  
User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8490 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

Talk about small government conservatives doing big things, Gov. Snyder with the help of the Republican dominated legislative body uses Emergency Financial Managers to expand the power of the state government to impose its will on a city or town and nullifies the will of the voters. Gov. Snyder has already put his policy into practice as EFMs have taken over Benton Harbor.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-593992?ref=feeds%2Flatest


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User currently onlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8825 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

Quote:
"It doesn't bother me," said City Commissioner Bryan Joseph. "I'm in favor of it."

Joseph said he has watched financial mismanagement for decades, which was one of the reasons he ran for election in 2008.

But the move drew a strong rebuke from the AFL-CIO. The union represents administrative workers, among others.

"This is sad news for democracy in Michigan," said Mark Gaffney, president of the Michigan AFL-CIO. "With the stripping of all power of duly elected officials in Benton Harbor … we can now see the true nature of the emergency manager system."

Benton Harbor has struggled with a controversial trash hauling contract, lawsuits related to the contract, new competition for water services and city officials who sometimes clashed to the point that meetings dragged on for hours, Joseph said.

"I have seen for more than 30 years the mismanagement of funds and personnel in the city," Joseph said. "Infighting has been going on for decades."
http://detnews.com/article/20110416/...s-roles-of-Benton-Harbor-officials

Sounds like the public employee unions and the good-ole-boy network in this town have been fleecing it for years, and they need a new sheriff.

Look, these local battles have a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes which cannot be condensed into a single article. But the fact that the AFL/CIO is angry about the move does give hope that they are finally doing something constructive.



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User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1286 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1):
But the fact that the AFL/CIO is angry about the move does give hope that they are finally doing something constructive.

Well, your selective quoting from the article paints the AFL/CIO in a bad light (and is designed to do that). But the article goes on to give reason why the AFL/CIO is angry:

Quoting detnews.com:
The new powers of emergency managers include setting aside collective bargaining.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110416/...ton-Harbor-officials#ixzz1K6METQgQ

I think I would be angry as well if a contract that I negotiated in good faith can be set aside at will.



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User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2999 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

Quoting MattRB (Reply 2):

I think I would be angry as well if a contract that I negotiated in good faith can be set aside at will


I think you need to read that the contract was not negotiated in good faith.

Okie


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 40
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1273 times:

Don't like it one bit, regardless of whether Michigan's constitution says this is ok or not. Similarly, Atlanta's (failing) school board (any board actually) can now be fired by the state governor, who also happens to be a so-called small government Republican. Go figure.

http://www.gpb.org/news/2011/04/20/deal-signs-school-board-bill



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21554 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1):
Sounds like the public employee unions and the good-ole-boy network in this town have been fleecing it for years, and they need a new sheriff.

Then the people can vote in a new sheriff. Why is it the state's job to step in?

-Mir



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User currently onlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8825 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1234 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 5):
Then the people can vote in a new sheriff. Why is it the state's job to step in?

I've lived in medium and large towns where many elected positions have only one name on the ballot, for any number of fair and foul reasons.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21554 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 6):
I've lived in medium and large towns where many elected positions have only one name on the ballot, for any number of fair and foul reasons.

The fact that nobody is put off enough by what's going on to run in opposition still doesn't justify interference from the state.

-Mir



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11575 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1178 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1):
Sounds like the public employee unions and the good-ole-boy network in this town have been fleecing it for years, and they need a new sheriff.

Actually, it sounds like the same song sung by a different chorus. The biggest difference is the "small government" and "don't let government interfere with life" right-wingers are trying to meddle in every aspect of people's lives. Nullifying the will of the people as it were. If the city manager doesn't want to do anything about what is going on, why did he run for city manager? Why not resign and let the people decide what to do next? I thought that is what the right-wing was all about: Power to the people.



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

I despise such a law in Michigan where local government can be taken over by the state as occurring in Michigan. The intended purpose was more to take over a town if there was a bankruptcy or where almost all elected or appointed officials were arrested for criminal activity for personal or job related malfeasance until a new election. In New Jersey, several urban schools system were taken over by the State due to corruption and terrible student test scores, but there are clear rules, court procedures and so on to protect people's rights and teacher's Union contracts. To me this is to break the unions, to force outsourcing of many municipal services, cut municipal taxes due to cuts in pay and services to in turn be able to give huge tax cut deals to major businesses (like Whirlpool in the case of Benton Harbor) to keep them and their jobs in the town.

User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8871 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1127 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 5):
Then the people can vote in a new sheriff. Why is it the state's job to step in?
Quoting Mir (Reply 7):

The fact that nobody is put off enough by what's going on to run in opposition still doesn't justify interference from the state.

-Mir

Absolutely correct, when we allow one government to take over another,State, versus local, for a political agenda, we are in trouble. The local people are being disenfranchised. It is their community, let them vote the people out, if there is cause.



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