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NYC "Don't Be A Jerk" Commercial  
User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1384 times:

I saw this on the news yesterday and almost spit my coffee out from busting out laughing. Basically, Mayor Bloomberg has been rolling out more bike lanes in the city lately, which has stirred up issues of if it is a waste of money or not. I have listened to many arguments on both sides and can honestly say that I think there are valid points both for and against the bike lanes. But this commercial is freakin' hysterical, and is coming out because of the issues of bikers not following the rules of the road.

While the commercial is funny, I am very curious what the reaction would be if you went and called someone a "jerk" for not following the rules. I don't know if this is going to help the cause by giving cyclists a "slap to the face" by calling them a jerk when they don't follow the rules and straighten up their riding style....or cause a bunch of fist fights and screaming matches on the streets on NYC (more than what we have now at least).         

So tell me, what do you think of the "Don't be a jerk" commercial?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/dont...fety-campaign-new-york-20110511-KC

Now, if there are members on here from other cities that have bike lanes, how is it working where you are? Are your cyclists following the rules of the road? Are the lanes causing more traffic than easing it? Are people USING them? I would love to know!

I look forward to your responses!

  

~H81


"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

There is a stretch of road in queens on the way to a spotting location that everyone uses the bike lane for a second car lane. I call them worse   

User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3679 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

What a great idea! Although I don't think I would call them 'jerks', bikers need to understand that the same rules apply to them too and they cannot do whatever they want just because they are riding a bike and not a car.

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Thread starter):
Now, if there are members on here from other cities that have bike lanes, how is it working where you are? Are your cyclists following the rules of the road? Are the lanes causing more traffic than easing it? Are people USING them? I would love to know!

In LA there are suburban areas with bike lanes on the main roads. I see many people riding bikes in all areas, including downtown. I believe bike lanes should exist in busy roads so that each mode of transportation has its own space, thus reducing accidents. The problem is, cyclists rarely follow the rules, they will appear out of nowhere, pay no attention to traffic lights or stop signs and drive on the opposite side of the road. All they need to do is drop the 'holier-than-thou' attitude and pay attention on the road, without flipping off anyone that may try to point out that they should be more careful....


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5660 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1335 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Thread starter):
Now, if there are members on here from other cities that have bike lanes, how is it working where you are? Are your cyclists following the rules of the road? Are the lanes causing more traffic than easing it? Are people USING them? I would love to know!

We're adding them all over the place. I like them and, by and large, near as I can tell, the bikers are following the rules.

Now, I will add, that one of my biggest pet peeves is "the bicycle gang". We have a few of these roving gangs of bikers who take the whole driving lane and hold up traffic. Though, I won't call what I do tailgating, I will drive fairly close to express my displeasure. I will also call the police every damn time. Until they start paying registration fees and vehicle taxes, they do not OWN the entire road.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1319 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 3):
Until they start paying registration fees and vehicle taxes, they do not OWN the entire road.

They have bike lanes where I live here. The bikers think they are exempt from following the rules. 90% of the time I see bikers right turn without stopping on a red light. Left turn with no hand signal. Not riding in the bike lane. Riding 2x2 not one behind the other. It's unreal up here. I wish the cops would enforce some rules with them. Someone is going to get killed.



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User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2960 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Thread starter):
I have listened to many arguments on both sides and can honestly say that I think there are valid points both for and against the bike lanes

As a New Yorker, I hate those damn bike lanes with every bone in my body...  
Quoting fr8mech (Reply 3):
I like them and, by and large, near as I can tell, the bikers are following the rules.


I can tell you that bikers here in Manhattan don't follow the rules and put put pedestrians at risk with their reckless disregard for the rules....



short summary of every jewish holiday: they tried to kill us ,we won , lets eat !
User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5660 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1243 times:

Quoting alberchico (Reply 5):
I can tell you that bikers here in Manhattan don't follow the rules and put put pedestrians at risk with their reckless disregard for the rules....

Bikers in Manhatten are their own breed. They think they own the road...and the sidewalk.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1234 times:

It's funny that this thread comes up when it does as Albuquerque just had two bicyclists hit this week.

ABQ has them and is adding more when/where able. Some are quite generous while others are so narrow that it makes one wonder why they even bothered. I'm not a cyclist, so I can't comment with any real authority on how drivers share with bicyclists though from what I've seen, it could use some improvement.

Bicyclists, however, I'd give them a C, C+ at best, on their actions. On the wider bike lanes, most don't seem to grasp the concept of keep right. They generally ride right on the white line, which is all well and good until a vehicle comes up behind them. Does the bicyclist move to the right? No. Of course, the vehicle can move over to the left sometimes to pass, but that isn't always an option.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20377 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1221 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Thread starter):

Now, if there are members on here from other cities that have bike lanes, how is it working where you are? Are your cyclists following the rules of the road? Are the lanes causing more traffic than easing it? Are people USING them? I would love to know!

In San Francisco the two problems are 1) bikers going REALLY SLOW and taking up the whole lane and 2) flying through red lights and stop signs. It's especially irksome when they aren't using lights at night.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21525 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 7):
On the wider bike lanes, most don't seem to grasp the concept of keep right. They generally ride right on the white line, which is all well and good until a vehicle comes up behind them. Does the bicyclist move to the right? No. Of course, the vehicle can move over to the left sometimes to pass, but that isn't always an option.

That might have to do with the risk of "getting doored" in the face when driving next to parked cars. This is unfortunately a very real and highly dangerous risk.

Overall there are many truck and car drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians who don't care about anybody else and who are endangering others.

It is easy to just put all the blame on the respective other people on the streets, but it completely misses the point: The only way to go is to show some consideration for the other people, regardless of your own and of their transportation mode.

The bicycle can be fantastic for getting around in a city without pollution and with positive health effects, but there needs to be at least basic support in the infrastructure and some attention paid by everyone (including the cyclists themselves, of course).


User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1154 times:

My state just passed a law requiring that cars give bikers three feet.... 3 FEET.... of space when they pass them. We don't have many bike lanes and all the bikers ride on the white line. On a two-lane (one each direction) road, there is no way in hell you can pass them and give them three feet while maintaining your own lane - the lanes around here are barely big enough for a normal car to fit. School buses dont even fit in the lanes and it is hella dangerous to pass them since they spill over a good foot or two into your lane.

I think I need to glue a yard stick to the side of my car so I know if I'm three feet away from the biker or not.

If you don't give them three feet, you get a ticket. If you give them three feet you get a ticket for failing to maintain your lane. If you decide not to pass them, you get a ticket for disrupting traffic.



The above post is my opinion. Don't like it? Don't read it.
User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1152 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
That might have to do with the risk of "getting doored" in the face when driving next to parked cars. This is unfortunately a very real and highly dangerous risk.

While what you say is true, where I live parking isn't generally allowed in the bike lane (which normally extends from the curb owtwards 4' to 5.5'). Further, bike lanes aren't normally present in areas where parking along the curb is allowed.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21525 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 10):
I think I need to glue a yard stick to the side of my car so I know if I'm three feet away from the biker or not.

Brilliant idea. Then you'll need to keep six feet of distance.   

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 10):
If you don't give them three feet, you get a ticket. If you give them three feet you get a ticket for failing to maintain your lane. If you decide not to pass them, you get a ticket for disrupting traffic.

So your conclusion is that you rather run them over? Or what?


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7811 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1115 times:

For laughs... a nice parody on militant bike riders:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/210889/portlandia-bike-rider



Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlinegoblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1110 times:

LOL. This reminds me of the Jetblue commercials in the taxi. I don't know why but it just does.


From the airport with love
User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1079 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 6):
Bikers in Manhatten are their own breed. They think they own the road...and the sidewalk.
Quoting alberchico (Reply 5):
As a New Yorker, I hate those damn bike lanes with every bone in my body...
Quoting alberchico (Reply 5):
I can tell you that bikers here in Manhattan don't follow the rules and put put pedestrians at risk with their reckless disregard for the rules....

I HATE them too! I once saw a biker hit a lady on 59th and sent her flying in the air. He didn't even stop. Unfortunately NYC transportation Kahuna Janette Sadik-Khan (aka 'Genghis' Khan) is an avid bike rider and Bloomie is quite smitten with her. Come 7 pm and you have the great hordes of delivery guys on bikes who are out to annihilate pedestrians. Bikes and Bikers in NYC are pure lawless EVIL! I hold them in the same regard as the schmeer of doggie poo on the sidewalk.

'nuff said.


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