SP90 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 388 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2160 times:
I look at the airport shuttle buses and compared to city buses I can't help but wonder why the city buses can't look like this. By looking like this I'm referring to how they're low to the ground, wheels covered and have a flat floor all the way through. Being lower to the ground, they're easy to get in and out of. The wheels are covered but they obviously have no problem turning left or right. I understand city buses would get rid of all the doors on the driver side and keep just the front and one pair of rear door.
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6376 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2134 times:
Quoting SP90 (Thread starter): Being lower to the ground, they're easy to get in and out of.
Most city streets have more potholes and rough patches than an airport, so being lower to the ground can create some big problems. This could be especially problematic in cities with big differences in temperatures creating more potholes - think Boston, Chicago, NYC, Philly, etc.
I agree that city street would have more pot holes and such but I don't think the ground clearance on those buses are that much lower that typical city buses. The newer generation of MTA buses I see in NYC have pretty low ground clearance too. When they pull up to the curb the floor at the door is pretty much level with the sidewalk (which is about 6 inches tall). I can also understand the changing grades of the road but not every city is as hilly as San Francisco. I guess what really captivated my about the airport shuttle are the wheel covers and the overall sleek(er) look that gives the bus.
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7669 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1985 times:
Many newer city transit busses in US 'kneel' when they stop. The air suspension lowers the front of the vehicle to get the door sil closer to the ground. Then the body raises again when the vehicle starts moving.
Most large city bus maintenance departments would hate wheel covers, and they would end up damaged or 'lost'.
The wheel covers could be important to protect the tires against UV damage.
Folks with large motorhomes in the US frequently put canvas/vinyl covers over their wheels when parked. Since most large RVs don't travel but a few thousand miles per year, the tires can be ruined by UV damage before the tread wears out.
I would expect airport tarmac shuttle busses to have relatively low mileage. They get used a lot, but the trips are short compared to a city or highway bus.
Those busses also don't appear to have the lighting and bumpers required for highway use in the US.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26493 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1873 times:
Here at LAX we have a fleet of German Cobus models for ramp passenger transfers.
Besides what people have noted above, the buses simply are not street legal in the US. Also one note -- these buses are wide, wider than a typical street lane.
The only thing I could see being used on streets is something like the smaller NABI busses we have here which essentially are articulated street buses anyhow but a bit lower and modified interiors for airport ops.
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goblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1818 times:
I'd like to ride on a train that looked like that, but a bus? No, thanks! It would be very bumpy and feel really low. If I was on a bus, I'd like to be up high. Besides, if anything we should adopt a similar concept for a train like the high speed rail in Tokyo.
canoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2844 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1368 times:
Quoting SP90 (Reply 4): The newer generation of MTA buses I see in NYC have pretty low ground clearance too. When they pull up to the curb the floor at the door is pretty much level with the sidewalk (which is about 6 inches tall).
fields beat me too it.
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 6): Many newer city transit busses in US 'kneel' when they stop.
I ride the bus everyday. Most of the exterior of a bus is cosmetic anyway. Hell, we have the Monorail here in Seattle which was supposed to be the "future" of rail transit in the '60s. When I walk on a bus all I care about is: #1 is there a bike rack #2 are there seat covers and #3 how much is the fare? Oh, and like today would the guy on the bus next to me take a shower more than once a week.