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CA Guv Brown Vetoes Democratic Budget  
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8132 posts, RR: 26
Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1588 times:

As predicted, Governor Jerry Brown is doing what he promised, and has vetoed the budget submitted by the Democratic majority in the state lege. This is the first time a Democratic governor in CA has rejected a Democratic budget. The CA Dem party is obviously in shambles - as they are blaming Brown for not "delivering" GOP votes. This signals a monumental shift in what constitutes business as usual in Sacramento - exactly what Brown was elected to do. Again this is exactly why it was necessary to defeat Meg Whitman, as she would have engendered so much consternation there would be total deadlock. Dems close to Brown will have no choice but to accept some of the reforms he has proposed to bring GOP members of the state lege on board.

The governor made his announcement this morning in an online video, then spoke to reporters at a news conference in Los Angeles this afternoon, where he said he vetoed the budget "because it doesn't meet the needs of the state."

"Whatever happens, we will get a better budget than we have today," he added.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...i?f=/c/a/2011/06/16/BAP21JUS28.DTL


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User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1253 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1570 times:

I'm actually shocked that Brown vetoed this and applaud his stance. He must have known that if he passed this budget, somewhere down the line he would have been in deep kimchi.

Bravo J.B!



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1557 times:

Not voting for Meg Whitman was the last nail in CA's coffin. Brown will just cement no future for he refuses to address what needs to be addressed. The pensions and collective bargaining and will just keep taxing and tacking on fess like car registration. I stand by my earlier prediction that see Brown go to DC begging for a bailout within two years maybe three.

CA you have nobody to blame but yourself. Christie and Cuomo. I thank my lucky stars they represent me.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8838 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1557 times:

While I am stunned and amazed that Brown is actually showing some fiscal responsibility, this is not cool.

Quote:
Brown's letter went on to say that, "I am, once again, calling on Republicans to allow the people of California to vote on tax extensions for a balanced budget and significant reforms. ... If they continue to obstruct a vote, we will be forced to pursue deeper and more destructive cuts to schools and public safety - a tragedy for which Republicans will bear full responsibility."

Why is always schools and public safety that are the first to be threatened with the chopping block? How about first slashing the budget to one of these state organs, some of whom are truly useless.

California Access for Infants and Mothers[1]
California Acupuncture Board[1]
California Administrative Office of the Courts
California African American Museum
California Agricultural Labor Relations Board[1]
California Air Resources Board (CARB)
California Alternative Energy and Advanced Transportation Financing Authority[1]
California Animal Health and Food Safety Services[1]
California Apprenticeship Council[1]
California Architects Board[1]
California Arts Council
California Asian Pacific Islander Legislative Caucus[1]
California Athletic Commission[1]
California Bay-Delta Authority[1]
California Biodiversity Council[1]
California Board for Geologists and Geophysicists[1]
California Board for Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors[1]
California Board of Accountancy
California Board of Barbering and Cosmetology[1]
California Board of Behavioral Sciences[1]
California Board of Chiropractic Examiners[1]
California Board of Equalization (BOE)
California Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind[1]
California Board of Occupational Therapy[1]
California Board of Optometry[1]
California Board of Pilot Commissioners (BOPC)[2]
California Building Standards Commission
California Bureau for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education
California Bureau of Automotive Repair
California Bureau of Naturopathic Medicine
California Business, Transportation and Housing Agency
California Coastal Commission
California Coastal Conservancy
California Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training (POST)[3]
California Conservation Corps
California Contractors State License Board
California Council on Criminal Justice
California Courts of Appeal
California Data Exchange Center[citation needed]
California Data Management Division[citation needed]
California Debt and Investment Advisory Commission[citation needed]
California Delta Protection Commission[citation needed]
California Demographic Research Unit[citation needed]
California Dental Auxiliaries[citation needed]
California Department of Aging
California Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs
California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control
California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control Appeals Board[citation needed]
California Department of Boating and Waterways (Cal Boating)
California Department of Child Support Services (CDCSS)[citation needed]
California Department of Community Services and Development[citation needed]
California Department of Conservation
California Department of Consumer Affairs
California Department of Corporations[citation needed]
California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation
California Department of Developmental Services
California Department of Education
California Department of Fair Employment and Housing
California Department of Finance
California Department of Financial Institutions[citation needed]
California Department of Fish and Game
California Department of Food and Agriculture
California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CDF)
California Department of General Services
California Department of General Services, Office of State Publishing[citation needed]
California Department of General Services, Procurement Division[3]
California Department of General Services, Procurement Division, Office of Small Business and Disabled Veteran Business Enterprise Services[3]
California Department of Health Care Services[citation needed]
California Department of Housing and Community Development[citation needed]
California Department of Industrial Relations (DIR)[citation needed]
California Department of Industrial Relations, Office of Self Insurance Plans (SIP)[3]
California Department of Insurance
California Department of Justice
California Department of Justice Firearms Division[citation needed]
California Department of Justice Opinion Unit[citation needed]
California Department of Justice, Consumer Information, Public Inquiry Unit[citation needed]
California Department of Managed Health Care[citation needed]
California Department of Mental Health[citation needed]
California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)
California Department of Parks and Recreation
California Department of Personnel Administration
California Department of Pesticide Regulation
California Department of Public Health
California Department of Real Estate[citation needed]
California Department of Rehabilitation[citation needed]
California Department of Social Services
California Department of Social Services Adoptions Branch[citation needed]
California Department of Toxic Substances Control
California Department of Transportation (Caltrans)
California Department of Veterans Affairs (CalVets)[citation needed]
California Department of Water Resources
California Digital Library
California Disabled Veteran Business Enterprise Certification Program[citation needed]
California Division of Apprenticeship Standards[citation needed]
California Division of Codes and Standards[citation needed]
California Division of Communicable Disease Control[citation needed]
California Division of Engineering[citation needed]
California Division of Environmental and Occupational Disease Control[citation needed]
California Division of Gambling Control
California Division of Housing Policy Development[citation needed]
California Division of Labor Standards Enforcement[citation needed]
California Division of Labor Statistics and Research[citation needed]
California Division of Land and Right of Way[citation needed]
California Division of Land Resource Protection[citation needed]
California Division of Law Enforcement General Library[citation needed]
California Division of Measurement Standards[citation needed]
California Division of Mines and Geology[citation needed]
California Division of Occupational Safety and Health (Cal/OSHA)
California Division of Oil, Gas and Geothermal Resources[citation needed]
California Division of Planning and Local Assistance[citation needed]
California Division of Recycling[citation needed]
California Division of Safety of Dams[citation needed]
California Division of the State Architect[citation needed]
California Division of Tourism
California Division of Workers' Compensation[citation needed]
California Division of Workers' Compensation Medical Unit[citation needed]
California Economic Strategy Panel[citation needed]
California Education Audit Appeals Panel[citation needed]
California Educational Facilities Authority[citation needed]
California Elections Division[citation needed]
California Electricity Oversight Board[citation needed]
California Emergency Management Agency
California Emergency Medical Services Authority
California Employment Development Department (EDD)
California Employment Training Panel[citation needed]
California Energy Commission
California Environmental Protection Agency (Cal/EPA)
California Export Laboratory Services[citation needed]
California Exposition and State Fair (Cal Expo)
California Fair Political Practices Commission
California Franchise Tax Board (FTB)
California Geological Survey
California Health and Human Services Agency
California High-Speed Rail Authority
California Highway Patrol (CHP)
California Horse Racing Board
California Housing Finance Agency
California Institute for Regenerative Medicine
California Integrated Waste Management Board
California Labor and Workforce Development Agency[citation needed]
California Labor Market Information Division[citation needed]
California Lands Commission[citation needed]
California Landscape Architects Technical Committee[citation needed]
California Latino Legislative Caucus[citation needed]
California Law Enforcement Branch[citation needed]
California Law Enforcement General Library[citation needed]
California Law Revision Commission
California Legislative Analyst's Office
California Legislative Black Caucus
California Legislative Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender (LGBT) Caucus[citation needed]
California Library Development Services[citation needed]
California License and Revenue Branch[citation needed]
California Managed Risk Medical Insurance Board
California Maritime Academy
California Medical Assistance Commission[citation needed]
California Medical Care Services[citation needed]
California Military Department
California Mining and Geology Board[citation needed]
California Museum for History, Women, and the Arts[citation needed]
California Museum Resource Center[citation needed]
California National Guard
California Native American Heritage Commission[citation needed]
California Natural Community Conservation Planning Program[citation needed]
California Natural Resources Agency
California New Motor Vehicle Board[citation needed]
California Occupational Safety and Health Appeals Board[3]
California Occupational Safety and Health Standards Board[3]
California Office of Administrative Law (OAL)
California Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment
California Office of Legislative Counsel
California Office of the Attorney General
California Operations Control Office[citation needed]
California Opinion Unit[citation needed]
California Outreach and Technical Assistance Network (OTAN)[citation needed]
California Park and Recreation Commission[3]
California Physical Therapy Board (PTBC)[2]
California Physician Assistant Committee (PAC)[2]
California Plant Health and Pest Prevention Services[citation needed]
California Policy and Evaluation Division[citation needed]
California Political Reform Division[citation needed]
California Pollution Control Financing Authority[citation needed]
California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
California Postsecondary Education Commission[3]
California Primary Care and Family Health[citation needed]
California Prison Industry Authority (CALPIA)[2]
California Public Employees' Retirement System (CalPERS)[2]
California Public Employment Relations Board (PERB)[2]
California Public Utilities Commission (PUC)[3]
California Real Estate Services Division[citation needed]
California Refugee Programs Branch[citation needed]
California Regional Water Quality Control Boards[citation needed]
California Registered Veterinary Technician Committee[citation needed]
California Registry of Charitable Trusts[3]
California Research and Development Division[citation needed]
California Research Bureau[3]
California Respiratory Care Board (RCP)[3]
California Rural Health Policy Council[citation needed]
California San Francisco Bay Conservation and Development Commission[citation needed]
California San Gabriel and Lower Los Angeles Rivers and Mountains Conservancy[citation needed]
California San Joaquin River Conservancy[citation needed]
California Science Center
California Secretary of State's Office
California Seismic Safety Commission[3]
California Small Business Development Centers (SBDC)[3]
California State and Consumer Services Agency
California State Assembly
California State Assembly Democratic Caucus[1]
California State Assembly Republican Caucus[1]
California State Board of Education
California State Controller's Office
California State Lands Commission
California State Legislature
California State Library
California State Lottery
California State Personnel Board
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
California State Railroad Museum
California State Senate
California State Senate Democratic Caucus[citation needed]
California State Senate Republican Caucus[citation needed]
California State Summer School for Mathematics and Science (COSMOS)
California State Summer School for the Arts
California State Superintendent of Public Instruction's Office
California State Teachers' Retirement System (CalSTRS)
California State Treasurer's Office
California State University (CSU)
California State University, Bakersfield
California State University, Channel Islands
California State University, Chico
California State University, Dominguez Hills
California State University, East Bay
California State University, Fresno
California State University, Fullerton
California State University, Long Beach
California State University, Los Angeles
California State University, Monterey Bay
California State University, Northridge
California State University, Sacramento
California State University, San Bernardino
California State University, San Marcos
California State University, Stanislaus
California State Water Resources Control Board
California Superior Courts
California Technology Agency (CTA)
California Technology Agency, Office of Technology Services
California Victim Compensation and Government Claims Board
CaliforniaVolunteers
California Youth Authority (CYA)
Judicial Council of California
Little Hoover Commission (LHC)
Medical Board of California
Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy
State Bar of California
Supreme Court of California

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_California_state_agencies



Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8132 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1541 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Not voting for Meg Whitman was the last nail in CA's coffin

Absolutely wrong. The CA Democratic party has an attitude of total control and with history behind them, would have blocked Whitman every step of the way, to hell or high water. THAT would have been more than the last nail - more like the dump truck pulling the 'release' lever to cover the coffin.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
Why is always schools and public safety that are the first to be threatened with the chopping block?

More than half of that list is related to education. Education and public safety (if you include the bloated CA prison system) constitute nearly 70% of the state operating budget last time I checked.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
The pensions and collective bargaining and will just keep taxing and tacking on fess like car registration.

Even if Brown wanted to rescind pension obligations, they are already written into law and that needs to be changed first. A limited number of county and state entities have already volunteered givebacks - but he needs to move actively to get the university and public school systems to do the same as they have the lion's share of pension obligations.



If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1523 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 4):
Even if Brown wanted to rescind pension obligations, they are already written into law and that needs to be changed first. A limited number of county and state entities have already volunteered givebacks - but he needs to move actively to get the university and public school systems to do the same as they have the lion's share of pension obligations.

True but an aura still exists where people will still just elect representatives that fight unioin reform, don't believe in layoffs and feel the path out is just tax whatever you can. Soda, sales and car regis. This coupled with the totally unfreindly attitude toward business and pro illegal immigration will just continue to bring the state down. CA needs a severe change of direction and Brown is not it.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25146 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1523 times:

All I can say is Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut.

I'm glad the Republicans have held their line on not extending all the taxes due to expire in two weeks and also unwillingness to be complicit in the creation of any new ones either.

So Dems, continue chopping away at the budget till you get it down to the real number.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1517 times:

Kudos to Governor Jerry Brown!
Glad I voted for him!
Jerry Brown is a very smart, forward-thinking leader and sometimes that doesn't sit well with other Democrats.
I've had several in-depth one-on-one conversations about politics with Jerry Brown years ago. He is a friend of a friend of mine. I also sat next to him on a Southwest Airlines flight between Oakland - Los Angeles. We spoke politics on the flight as well. He is not a conventional politician and doesn't give canned, scripted answers.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California Air Resources Board (CARB)

The most EVIL government agency in the world! I HATE these crook!   

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California Acupuncture Board[1]

WHAT?!?!?!
Didn't know they had such.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California Biodiversity Council[1]

WHAT?!?!?!?!
Didn't know they had such.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California Board of Barbering and Cosmetology[1]

WHAT?!?!?!?! Are they fashion cops?

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California Department of Fair Employment and Housing

Housing prices in the Bay Area and Los Angeles is far from 'fair'.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California Department of General Services

...and what do they do?

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California Opinion

WHAT?!?!?!

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California State University, Bakersfield

No cute girls there. Shut it down!

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California State University, Dominguez Hills

No cute girls there either. Shut it down!

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California State University, Stanislaus

They can go to California State University, Fresno.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1509 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
The most EVIL government agency in the world! I HATE these crook!

My friend has a nice classic porsche for sale. You want it? Doesn't pass smog.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1503 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
My friend has a nice classic porsche for sale. You want it? Doesn't pass smog.

Tell him to register it in another state.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3009 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1496 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
Why is always schools and public safety that are the first to be threatened with the chopping block? How about first slashing the budget to one of these state organs, some of whom are truly useless.


Well that is because it always works better to hold the constituents hostage under the guise that their safety will be compromised and the poooor children will be victims.
I would predict that they would not get much sympathy if they said that they are going to have to layoff 1 of the 5 people that files the 2nd copy of interoffice memo's at some obscure agency.

Oklahoma has budget issue like any other state, this year they calculated the projected income and compared to last year and determined that there was going to just have to be a 3% across the board cut.
I mean the poop hit the fan we got the standard fire and police drama and the children are victims.
The real issue was that the people who have been appointed to administrative positions absolutely had no clue how to manage their departments and operate in a budget. I would say being on the private side finding 3% is almost an everyday thing. Yes and we are right up there on list with under funded retirement liabilities as well.
Okie


User currently offlineCargoLex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1263 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1497 times:

Quote:
WHAT?!?!?!?! Are they fashion cops?

You ever get shaved with a straight razor at the barber? You want that guy to be clean, right? You want to know that he's not going to slice you ear to ear, right?

Quote:
Housing prices in the Bay Area and Los Angeles is far from 'fair'.

The market dictates housing prices. Fair Housing and Employment investigates discrimination in housing and employment, such as when a landlord won't rent a house to a black people or fires somebody for being a woman or being white. Yes, they all still happen.

Quote:
...and what do they do?

Many, many things. Make sure buildings and vehicles work properly and are ordered and managed as efficiently as possible.

I know people love to rail against government programs that don't work, and California has plenty of those that need to be axed. But what you never see is government services and agencies that are working properly and providing essential services. For some reason, the people who work in these services are now the target of people wanting to cut their already low pay and take their economic frustrations out on them rather than having to face up the fact that decades of handing out tax cuts to buy votes has left the country in a state of chronically spending more than it takes in.

End of rant.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

Quoting CargoLex (Reply 11):
You ever get shaved with a straight razor at the barber?

Do they regulate when women get it shaved down there?

Quoting CargoLex (Reply 11):
You want that guy to be clean, right?

Dirty razors are bad for business.

Quoting CargoLex (Reply 11):
You want to know that he's not going to slice you ear to ear, right?

Aren't there already laws on the books against this?

Quoting CargoLex (Reply 11):
Yes, they all still happen.

Guess they need to do a harder job in enforcing this.

Quoting CargoLex (Reply 11):
I know people love to rail against government programs that don't work, and California has plenty of those that need to be axed. But what you never see is government services and agencies that are working properly and providing essential services. For some reason, the people who work in these services are now the target of people wanting to cut their already low pay and take their economic frustrations out on them rather than having to face up the fact that decades of handing out tax cuts to buy votes has left the country in a state of chronically spending more than it takes in.

I hear what you're saying. The main reason why California is in deep financial trouble is because of the prisons and prisons union. It's very easy to land in prison in California. The state has too many laws an it's a shame that there are over a million non-violent inmates locked up for drug and marijuana offenses.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21565 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
While I am stunned and amazed that Brown is actually showing some fiscal responsibility, this is not cool.

So he should have approved it?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California Acupuncture Board[1]

WHAT?!?!?!
Didn't know they had such.

You want people who stick needles into other people to know what they're doing, right?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California Board of Barbering and Cosmetology[1]

WHAT?!?!?!?! Are they fashion cops?

More like make sure that the people who work around your head and neck with scissors and razors know what they're doing.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineCargoLex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1263 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1484 times:

Quote:
I hear what you're saying. The main reason why California is in deep financial trouble is because of the prisons and prisons union. It's very easy to land in prison in California. The state has too many laws an it's a shame that there are over a million non-violent inmates locked up for drug and marijuana offenses.

You're absolutely right. But I also see why it is hard for politicians to deal with this issue, because if they let anybody out, and somebody commits a crime, it's goodbye career. And attempts at reforming these laws inevitably get the politician "soft on crime."

If you have that many people in your prisons on minor possession charges, then clearly the culture of the place needs to be re-examined. You can't just warehouse people at taxpayer expense because some people don't like Marijuana. But you also have to respect the law, you can't just let people do something illegal.

Brown is in a position where when he's done, he's probably not going to run for any other office ever again. That represents a real opportunity to do something here.

Quote:
Dirty razors are bad for business.

Indeed. But that doesn't mean customers will necessarily know. Most barbers have to have a license, as to many people who deal in cosmetics. Doesn't stop people from coming up with a fake license and giving people fake collagen injections. My guess is that this is the kind of thing they deal with the most. This isn't something the private market can really regulate very well, and I think it's fair to have watchdog. Now, how that watchdog works and how well it is run, can't speak to that.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1480 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 13):
You want people who stick needles into other people to know what they're doing, right?

Yeah, yeah I guess you're right.

Quoting Mir (Reply 13):
More like make sure that the people who work around your head and neck with scissors and razors know what they're doing.

Yes but I've had my fair-share of bad haircuts so I decided to start cutting my own hair.

Quoting CargoLex (Reply 14):
You're absolutely right. But I also see why it is hard for politicians to deal with this issue, because if they let anybody out, and somebody commits a crime, it's goodbye career. And attempts at reforming these laws inevitably get the politician "soft on crime."

If you have that many people in your prisons on minor possession charges, then clearly the culture of the place needs to be re-examined. You can't just warehouse people at taxpayer expense because some people don't like Marijuana.

It's a vicious cycle.

Quoting CargoLex (Reply 14):
But you also have to respect the law, you can't just let people do something illegal.

Most marijuana users & dealers go through great lengths to conceal what they're doing so they're not in the public eye. Some laws are so stupid that I don't care if people break it.

Quoting CargoLex (Reply 14):
I think it's fair to have watchdog.

I wouldn't mind being a watchdog for women's waxing.
I'd sit in watch and pretend to be a dog.  



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineCargoLex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1263 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

Quote:
pretend

Pretend!   Hah!


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19565 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1457 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
California Board for Geologists and Geophysicists[1]
California Board for Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors[1]
California Board of Accountancy
California Board of Barbering and Cosmetology[1]
California Board of Behavioral Sciences[1]
California Board of Chiropractic Examiners[1]
California Board of Equalization (BOE)
California Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind[1]
California Board of Occupational Therapy[1]
California Board of Optometry[1]

Are you kidding? These are important professional regulatory boards. I'm surprised you didn't list the Medical Board and the Nursing Board.

So you want no regulatory oversight of accountants? Any old guy can call himself an accountant? Optometrists? Anyone can call himself an optometrist? Nobody to make sure that barbers are sterilizing their equipment?

Wow. Just... wow.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
Any old guy can call himself an accountant? Optometrists? Anyone can call himself an optometrist?

I'm a Gynecologist.  



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
Are you kidding? These are important professional regulatory boards. I'm surprised you didn't list the Medical Board and the Nursing Board.

So you want no regulatory oversight of accountants? Any old guy can call himself an accountant? Optometrists? Anyone can call himself an optometrist? Nobody to make sure that barbers are sterilizing their equipment?

Wow. Just... wow.

Wow, indeed. You do have a number of folk who seem to want to turn California into a version of Nigeria, ASAP.

I imagine that while all this railing against these bodies is going on, current affairs programs on your TV make a handsome living out of segments on folk that break the rules that these very bodies are set up to administer.

Reduce your prison population, that would be a start. And there is an easy way to do that - and no I am not suggesting executing one in two of the prisoners!


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19565 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):

I'm a Gynecologist.  

A bariatric gynecologist?


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Tell him to register it in another state.

Considered it but he sold it and is buying a late model one.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
The main reason why California is in deep financial trouble is because of the prisons and prisons union.

It's a small part, the big part is the education and pensions by far. Something Christie nipped in the bud on day one and something Brown won't.

Quoting CargoLex (Reply 14):
Brown is in a position where when he's done, he's probably not going to run for any other office ever again. That represents a real opportunity to do something here.

Tru but don't let what he did today lead you to think he is going to do what needs to be done. He isn't. His solution is just to tax to death people with no jobs.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):
A bariatric gynecologist?

Post of the week!


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8838 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
Are you kidding? These are important professional regulatory boards. I'm surprised you didn't list the Medical Board and the Nursing Board.

So you want no regulatory oversight of accountants? Any old guy can call himself an accountant? Optometrists? Anyone can call himself an optometrist? Nobody to make sure that barbers are sterilizing their equipment?

Wow. Just... wow.

Did I say that I wanted all of them to go? No. I just said that some of those departments can be cut with less negative results than cutting the Police or schools.



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User currently onlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8958 posts, RR: 40
Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
So you want no regulatory oversight of accountants? Any old guy can call himself an accountant?

There is no regulatory oversight of accountants and the world isn't falling apart. Yes, that means anyone can get a job in accounting. This applies to tax preparers too.

The only oversight is in auditing of financial statements of public companies.

[Edited 2011-06-17 05:44:31]


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User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3009 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
I'm a Gynecologist


And make home calls I presume.

Okie


25 Braniff747SP : And people ask what's wrong with the goverment- having a thousand pointless agencies and such are a drain on the states resources. What the hell does
26 Post contains links Yellowstone : http://www.dfg.ca.gov/habcon/nccp/ Short version: works with environmental organizations and landowners to try to strike an appropriate balance betwee
27 Post contains links LAXintl : What I think is interesting about California is even as many Dems like to point to the need for more taxes, the state is hardly revenue tax deficient
28 Superfly : Sounds like a department that needs to be slashed & burned.
29 PSA53 : UGH!!! Collector of state sales taxes from business like me.Yes,slash them. I also agree the Gov's move.Rare Democrat/politician that's for real. BTW
30 Post contains links JetsGo : My dad worked for DGS Office of Risk and Insurance Management for about ten years. Anytime a state vehicle such as Caltrans, CHP, ect. is involved in
31 Post contains links tugger : Do you live here and did you watch and listen and evaluate the choices each offered? I think CA is better off with Brown than Whitman but I am not en
32 Post contains images NIKV69 : Only thing the Governator got right, imagine the savings if you didn't arrest or jail anyone on drug charges?
33 CargoLex : Oh those evil teachers! Driving their Bentleys around on public expense and buying all those Gucci handbags! How dare they!
34 Superfly : Jerry Brown advocated a 13 % flat tax with no deductions when he ran for President in 1992. Many of his fellow Democrats hated him for that. I support
35 NIKV69 : It's a great idea, I wish Forbes got elected President. We would have been in a good way.
36 Superfly : Hell frikkin' NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Forbes was a bigger clown than Romney! Forbes so-called 'flat-tax' still had deductions for homeowners and child tax c
37 NIKV69 : Makes it more of a consumption tax but I think it still would work fine.
38 Superfly : Flat tax with NO deductions period!
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