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US Applies Sanctions To Iran Air  
User currently offlineqantas747flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1884 times:

Any thoughts on the possible impact on passenger safety resulting from the latest US sanctions imposed on Iran Air?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13897272

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User currently offlineusdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1010 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

Again, the US tries to throw its weight around while it fails to provide an adequate quality way of life for its citizens. This policy will only make things needlessly hard on Iranian citizens, many if not most of whom are against the Iranian government and just need to get on the darn plane. I do not see any impact on safety from this policy, just misery. The US needs to get a life and mind its own business for once.

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11718 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

Quote:
The new sanctions mean no US company will be able to do business with Iran Air or Tidewater, and if the companies hold any assets in the US, those will now be frozen.

So pretty much no change then...


Dan  



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6537 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 1):
Again, the US tries to throw its weight around while it fails to provide an adequate quality way of life for its citizens. This policy will only make things needlessly hard on Iranian citizens, many if not most of whom are against the Iranian government and just need to get on the darn plane. I do not see any impact on safety from this policy, just misery. The US needs to get a life and mind its own business for once

Your opinion appears to contain your opinion but few facts. In particular, do you have substantiation that the US failing to provide an adeqyate quality of life for its citzens.
Then take your stement that many if not most Iranian citizens are against the Iranian government.
Can you back that up with any factual data?
I guess we read differant news reports


User currently offlineAmsterdam From Netherlands, joined Mar 2011, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

Quoting bobnwa (Reply 3):
Your opinion appears to contain your opinion but few facts. In particular, do you have substantiation that the US failing to provide an adeqyate quality of life for its citzens.
Then take your stement that many if not most Iranian citizens are against the Iranian government.
Can you back that up with any factual data?
I guess we read differant news reports

Well the facts are:

+people in general don´t like to be tortured or killed for criticizing 'their' government.
+people in general don't like to be tortured and imprisoned for writing about love or music or basically everything what is not in line with what the islamic clerics allow.

+people in general like to have parties and dance and listen to the music they like (foreign music and many sorts of persian music are forbidden, so is dancing and having parties, even with the family.)

+people in general don't like corrupt governments (in this case extremely corrupt.)

et cetera....

+their is an extremely high rate of addicts in iran since the islamic rule started in 1979, and the amount of poor people have grown significantly since 1979; the economy is very weak considering the huge resources and potential of the country.

While on the other side of the persian gulf the little arab stated florish and dubai and emirates and qatar airlines and others become world players, the Iranians who have in potential so much more resources, universities, history, sort of products, in a country with snow mountains, where you can always ski to woods, to swamps and desserts.



You can only consider the Iranian people in majority happy with their political system, if you consider them different than 'mankind'.


User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6537 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

Quoting Amsterdam (Reply 4):
Well the facts are:

+people in general don´t like to be tortured or killed for criticizing 'their' government.
+people in general don't like to be tortured and imprisoned for writing about love or music or basically everything what is not in line with what the islamic clerics allow.

+people in general like to have parties and dance and listen to the music they like (foreign music and many sorts of persian music are forbidden, so is dancing and having parties, even with the family.)

+people in general don't like corrupt governments (in this case extremely corrupt.)

et cetera....

+their is an extremely high rate of addicts in iran since the islamic rule started in 1979, and the amount of poor people have grown significantly since 1979; the economy is very weak considering the huge resources and potential of the country.

While on the other side of the persian gulf the little arab stated florish and dubai and emirates and qatar airlines and others become world players, the Iranians who have in potential so much more resources, universities, history, sort of products, in a country with snow mountains, where you can always ski to woods, to swamps and desserts.

My questions were directed towards usdcsguy but since you choose to answer for him I do not see a single fact that US citizens have a lower than adequate lifestyle that he claimed, or that a majority of Iranian citizens are against the Iran government. Your answer did not address either of those points that usdcaguy made.


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

Quoting qantas747flyer (Thread starter):
Any thoughts on the possible impact on passenger safety resulting from the latest US sanctions imposed on Iran Air?

Sad, very sad...

While I do understand the pressure being exerted on Iran, putting peoples lives into peril over politics - its just not on in my opinion.

BEG airport - as of yesterday, is no longer refuelling IR flights from IKA to Europe.



Kafa, čaj, šraf?
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11718 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1399 times:

Quoting bobnwa (Reply 5):
or that a majority of Iranian citizens are against the Iran government.

Well he actually said 'many if not most' were opposed, and indeed it's fair to say that 34% of Iranians are opposed to the Ahmadinejad Presidency and that many Western countries expressed concern over the authenticity of the results... as did many of the Iranian people.


Dan  



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineqantas747flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Guys,

There is no question that politics is at play here, however I opened this thread to seek your thoughts on the possible impact on passenger safety resulting from the recent US sanctions on Iran Air. Please lets stick to that topic otherwise the anet moderators are likely to close the thread.

Interestingly, the CEO of Iran Air, Farhad Parvaresh has recently been quoted as dismissing the US sanctions and stated that "The airline's operations are completely within the framework of the aviation agreements and treaties that have been signed bilaterally and internationally".

More info on the following link:
http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/Ira...-fresh-US-afpsg-554647450.html?x=0


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11718 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1117 times:

Quoting qantas747flyer (Reply 8):
Interestingly, the CEO of Iran Air, Farhad Parvaresh has recently been quoted as dismissing the US sanctions and stated that "The airline's operations are completely within the framework of the aviation agreements and treaties that have been signed bilaterally and internationally".

They have now rectified all the issues which got their aircraft banned from EU skies, however the ban has remained in place.


Dan  



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineqantas747flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1061 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 9):
They have now rectified all the issues which got their aircraft banned from EU skies

Are there any web links you can share that confirm that this is the case?

If this is true it is surely a positive development for Iran Air's passengers, although it will be interesting to see what impact the new US sanctions against the airline might have on their route structure.


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