STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16247 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1644 times:
The US has two Army Combat Brigades in Alaska, one Airborne brigade at Fort Richardson and one Stryker brigade at Fort Wainwright (both of the 25th Infantry Division). Fort Wainwright is about 198 miles from the Arctic circle.
TheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2010 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1538 times:
This is just the beginning. Russia is going to step up their game in a big way, and throw their weight around even more. That means Canada finally has to ante-up. If we don't assert our sovereignty in the north, Russia will take advantage of it. A small Inuit militia with surplus Lee-Enfields from WW2 is a total joke. We need to significantly increase defense spending, establish a 3rd fleet, and modernize the other 2 fleets. The CP-140 aircraft need to be replaced. New long-range submarines with full under-ice capabilities are a must too.
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L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1518 times:
The us is in desperate need of a naval prscence in the arctic. Only one icebreaker is in service and it is geared for scientific research not armed conflict. Having the uscg make a few sorties with hc-130's isn't going to cut it. The us needs year round navel presence in the arctic
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einsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2042 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1467 times:
Quoting L-188 (Reply 5): The us needs year round navel presence in the arctic
Just for future reference, navel means belly button (and unless global warming melts the ice up there, I don't think there will be any ) . Naval refers to any navigation over water, specifically the Navy.
As far as an Arctic presence from both Canada and the US, I don't see the need. In my view, it's no different than the US having bases in the Middle East. As long as they recognize that four other countries also have claims to the Arctic circle (Norway, Denmark through Greenland, Canada, and the US) and that they also could have interests in the region (which due to the ice they can't really defend nor explore).
I wonder why people still treat Russia as an enemy. Russia is no longer an enemy. It's a rival, certainly not an ally, but to put the label of enemy is just wrong.
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dl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11433 posts, RR: 81 Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1282 times:
When it comes to competition for economic resources (which is the main reason Russian interest in their Arctic regions is increasing, same as Chinese interest in the Spratly and Paracel Islands) it's difficult to ignore the fact that competing nations are going to be economic competitors if not enemies in the drive to obtain the needed resources to run our economies. Russia is an aggressive nation as regards taking what they feel they need (as are many other nations) and have taken liberties with the sovereignty of others (as have other nations) so why ASSUME they'd play fair ball with the Arctic?
Canada, the US (and Denmark and Norway to some extent) need to spend more time and effort being pro-active in asserting our property and territorial rights, as well as developing the natural resources from those regions in a safe and productive way.
TheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2010 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1088 times:
Quoting dl021 (Reply 7): Canada, the US (and Denmark and Norway to some extent) need to spend more time and effort being pro-active in asserting our property and territorial rights, as well as developing the natural resources from those regions in a safe and productive way.
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