airtran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3639 posts, RR: 12 Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1442 times:
That kid is a class act. He is a great ambassador for the game.
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jetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2021 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1442 times:
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That boy was raised the right way! Good for him. He ended up better in the end too!
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sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1381 times:
Honestly, it looked like the kid was guilt tripped in to it...told by a person of authority that "the ball belongs to that other kid" and he felt no choice but to obey...
Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 3): the crying kid's mom didn't even flinch that this boy gave her kid the ball.
Agreed...no "thanks" or anything. What a _____....
futurepilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2018 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1343 times:
Quoting sw733 (Reply 4): Honestly, it looked like the kid was guilt tripped in to it...told by a person of authority that "the ball belongs to that other kid" and he felt no choice but to obey...
Exactly and the announcers ran with it, either way, it's incredible story because I would never give up the ball.
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Never read the comments on Yahoo! stories, they're a sad reminder of how insane/sociopathic most people on the internet are.
As for the topic, it was definitely a heartwarming story. In this time of conflict and everyone looking out for themselves, its nice to see a selfless act by a kid at an event where we can all come together and have fun!
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12562 posts, RR: 64 Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1273 times:
Quoting sw733 (Reply 4): Honestly, it looked like the kid was guilt tripped in to it...told by a person of authority that "the ball belongs to that other kid" and he felt no choice but to obey...
Oh come on, it was still ultimately his choice - he didn't have to give the ball to the little kid, but CHOSE to. As he even said afterward, he felt "it was the right thing to do."
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tugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 4633 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1265 times:
Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 3): A little annoyed the crying kid's mom didn't even flinch that this boy gave her kid the ball.
Quoting sw733 (Reply 4): Agreed...no "thanks" or anything. What a _____....
Where do you guys come off saying this? The kid is fully blocking the mom for the few seconds he is handing the ball over and you can see the mom nodding and saying something like "Thank you" as she is leaning back when she comes back into view. You have no idea what was said and to make up that she was bad and to be annoyed at her is ridiculous.
Quoting sw733 (Reply 4): Honestly, it looked like the kid was guilt tripped in to it...told by a person of authority that "the ball belongs to that other kid" and he felt no choice but to obey...
I have no idea where you get this from. Someone may have made some kind of a comment or maybe the little kid was crying but there was no guilt tripping, and forcing (no choice). The kid considered things for the briefest moment and went and did a nice thing. No one hounded him for several minutes or sat and talked with him, he just considered what was happening, from a possible brief comment, to the little kids reaction, and then he acted. The kid was just a good kid. Don't get why anyone has to try and make it into something else.
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EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12562 posts, RR: 64 Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1249 times:
Quoting tugger (Reply 10): Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 3):
A little annoyed the crying kid's mom didn't even flinch that this boy gave her kid the ball.
Quoting sw733 (Reply 4):
Agreed...no "thanks" or anything. What a _____....
Where do you guys come off saying this? The kid is fully blocking the mom for the few seconds he is handing the ball over and you can see the mom nodding and saying something like "Thank you" as she is leaning back when she comes back into view. You have no idea what was said and to make up that she was bad and to be annoyed at her is ridiculous.
And look at the other ladies nearby, the ones whose faces you CAN see while he's handing the ball over - if you watch their mouths, the one in the green shirt very clearly says, "That was VERY nice..." and claps as he hands it over. The other one says something as well, but it's harder to make out.
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vikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 8225 posts, RR: 28 Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1236 times:
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Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5): Can't believe some of the comments on that story though...people are just nuts.
Can't believe some of the comments in this thread!
Whether someone else asked him to give the ball to the little kid or not, he still chose to give it.
Whether we saw the little kid's mom thank him or not, my bets are on that she did.
Do we really need to read more into it than that? None of us were there.
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Ronglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 624 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1151 times:
I agree with sw733 (Reply 4).
In fact, the kid in red behaved poorly at the beginning of the clip and his interference was probably the reason the intended recipient fumbled the ball. It was the official at the bottom of the stairs who deserves the kudos here. He could have ignored the situation, but he intervened to see that "right was done".
Why do we so often ignore the facts and manufacture these "hero" stories out of such poor raw materials. There are real hero stories, I guess it is just laziness to accept the dubious ones.
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1116 times:
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 8): Oh come on, it was still ultimately his choice
He's pretty young. If his parents taught him to respect authority, and a person of authority told him to do something, odds are he did it whether he wanted to or not. It's still a good deed and I am glad he did it, but I have been that kid before and I know I have done things I did not necessarily want to because I was raised with a "respect people in positions of authority" mindset.
Quoting tugger (Reply 10): I have no idea where you get this from
tugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 4633 posts, RR: 7 Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1036 times:
Quoting Ronglimeng (Reply 13): In fact, the kid in red behaved poorly at the beginning of the clip and his interference was probably the reason the intended recipient fumbled the ball. It was the official at the bottom of the stairs who deserves the kudos here. He could have ignored the situation, but he intervened to see that "right was done".
First, I don't see the kid acting poorly. He's excited, he's going for the ball, but he's not pushing anyone out of the way or being rude. Second, yes, the ball did hit the cap and the hand of the mom as both were trying to catch the ball and it bounced off, but there is nothing wrong with both going for the ball (or do you think everyone should just sit/stand in where they are seated and not move and just wait to see if a ball will land in their lap?). Third, the person who "said something" was the same one (usher, whatever) that handed the ball (placed the ball in the cap) to the first kid. So if anything they may have pointed out that the other kid was really bummed/upset or said "If you want to do something really nice..." but there is no reason to think anything action was "ordered" (if the other kid was the "intended recipient" they would have not put it in the hat of the first kid). Fourth, the kid did not have to do anything, he had the ball, it was given to him, he didn't take anything away from anyone, but he did the nice thing (not the "right thing" or the only thing). Last, you use the word "probably" and make assumptions for which you have no facts which indicates two things: A. You don't know at all. B. You are guessing or "manufacturing".
Quoting Ronglimeng (Reply 13): Why do we so often ignore the facts and manufacture these "hero" stories out of such poor raw materials. There are real hero stories, I guess it is just laziness to accept the dubious ones.
I do tend to agree that way more was made of this than should have been or needed to be. There was no need to reward the kid for giving the ball but it was a nice thing to do, to reward and reinforce the truth that his action was a good and decent thing to do. I think the reward and attention was excessive but that is the team or networks decision. I think just saying "We think yer great for doing that, nice going kid!" would have been plenty. Plus the sad thing is that with attention, you get people nitpicking and arguing over whether it really was "a good deed" etc. It's just silly, we over sensationalize and over analyze things and make people and situations into more than they are which isn't needed or good.
Quoting sw733 (Reply 14): Just what I see with my own two eyes.
I just don't see it and see no reason to really pick apart in a way that assumes worse. See above.
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EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12562 posts, RR: 64 Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 956 times:
Quoting sw733 (Reply 14): I have been that kid before and I know I have done things I did not necessarily want to because I was raised with a "respect people in positions of authority" mindset.
Does that render the good deeds you did as a result invalid, then? I hardly think so.
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