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F1 2011: German Grand Prix  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10728 posts, RR: 38
Posted (2 years 9 months 21 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

There is not yet a new thread created for the 2011 German Grand Prix so here we go!

Circuit: Nürburgring
5,148 km (3.199 miles)

First race German Grand Prix July 29, 1951 Winner: Alberto Ascari (ITALIA)
Thish race German Grand Prix July 24, 2011 Winner: ???

German Grand Prix 2011

Today's results

Free practice 1

Driver Teams Time
1 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 1'31.894
2 M Webber (AUS) Red Bull 1'32.217
3 S Vettel (GER) Red Bull 1'32.268
4 F Massa (BRA) Ferrari 1'32.681
5 LC Hamilton (GBR) McLaren 1'32.996
6 J Button (GBR) McLaren 1'33.628
7 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes-Benz 1'33.787
8 A Sutil (GER) Force India 1'33.832
9 N Hülkenberg (GER) Force India 1'33.858
10 M Schumacher (GER) Mercedes-Benz 1'33.863
11 V Petrov (RUS) Renault 1'34.094
12 J Alguersuari (ESP) Toro Rosso 1'35.115
13 S Buemi (SUI) Toro Rosso 1'35.371
14 RG Barrichello (BRA) Williams 1'35.389
15 N Heidfeld (GER) Renault 1'35.444
16 S Perez (MEX) Sauber 1'36.371
17 H Kovalainen (FIN) Lotus 1'36.392
18 P Maldonado (VEN) Williams 1'36.842
19 K Kobayashi (JPN) Sauber 1'36.882
20 KRN Karthikeyan (IND) HRT 1'38.504
21 K Chandhok (IND) Lotus 1'38.765
22 D Ricciardo (AUS) HRT 1'39.279
23 T Glock (GER) Virgin 1'40.109
24 J d'Ambrosio (BEL) Virgin 1'40.428

Free practice 2

Driver Teams Time
1 M Webber (AUS) Red Bull 1'31.711
2 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 1'31.879
3 S Vettel (GER) Red Bull 1'32.084
4 F Massa (BRA) Ferrari 1'32.354
5 M Schumacher (GER) Mercedes-Benz 1'32.411
6 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes-Benz 1'32.557
7 LC Hamilton (GBR) McLaren 1'32.724
8 N Heidfeld (GER) Renault 1'33.098
9 V Petrov (RUS) Renault 1'33.138
10 A Sutil (GER) Force India 1'33.211
11 J Button (GBR) McLaren 1'33.225
12 P di Resta (GBR) Force India 1'33.299
13 S Perez (MEX) Sauber 1'34.113
14 RG Barrichello (BRA) Williams 1'34.344
15 J Alguersuari (ESP) Toro Rosso 1'34.487
16 K Kobayashi (JPN) Sauber 1'34.491
17 P Maldonado (VEN) Williams 1'34.996
18 H Kovalainen (FIN) Lotus 1'35.753
19 T Glock (GER) Virgin 1'36.940
20 K Chandhok (IND) Lotus 1'37.248
21 J d'Ambrosio (BEL) Virgin 1'37.313
22 V Liuzzi (ITA) HRT 1'38.145
23 D Ricciardo (AUS) HRT 1'40.737
24 S Buemi (SUI) Toro Rosso -

Event of the day:
Sebastien Buemi's fly off. I thought he was going to barrel roll the car!
He got out unscathed. Good for him!

Tomorrow:

July 23: Free practice 3
11:00 local | 09:00 GMT | 11:00 CEST

July 23: Qualifying
14:00 local | 12:00 GMT | 14:00 CEST

Race:

July 24
14:00 local | 12:00 GMT | 14:00 CEST

Who will be the winner?
Ferrari with Alonso?
McLaren with Hammy or Jenson?
One of the Red Bulls?

Kamui creating the big surprise? (seriously doubt it but it would be nice)

Here's to some exciting times and a good race on Sunday!

Get those wheels rolling!

        


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User currently offlinecodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 21 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
There is not yet a new thread created for the 2011 German Grand Prix so here we go!

I get the feeling the holiday season gets us all looking for some rest...

Apparently Ferrari looking good or are they ? Good performances in the P sessions.

KS/codeshare



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 1313 times:

Quoting codeshare (Reply 1):
I get the feeling the holiday season gets us all looking for some rest...

Am actually going to spend my time at Schiphol as I'm flying out of AMS today, so will actually miss quali. but maybe i just kick and scream until they turn on BBC for me.  



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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2539 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 1313 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
One of the Red Bulls?

Hope so. Go Sebastian!  



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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17003 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 1311 times:

Quoting codeshare (Reply 1):
I get the feeling the holiday season gets us all looking for some rest...

Well I wasnt too keen to wake up at 5 am to watch the last race, but might do it this time around. Have not decided yet.



Quoting CXB77L (Reply 3):
ope so. Go Sebastian!  

Oh, come on  



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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 2):

You might wind up in the schiphol dungeon doing that!


User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 1265 times:
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Mark's pole lap .. not bad for a # 2... Lewis' dragged out something special for P2 as well

BBC commentary team alluded to Seb seeming not as comfortable or cheery as he had been earlier this year, certainly his body language getting out of the car and at the weigh-in seemed none too happy!



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10728 posts, RR: 38
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

Quoting stealthz (Reply 6):
Lewis' dragged out something special for P2 as well

Quite happy to see Hammy in the middle of the two Red Bulls and starting in the front line.
Wil he be able to maintain this position during the race? That is the Big question.

I expected Sebastian Vettel in pole rather than Webber but things do change from one race and racing track to the other. I hope there will be rain tomorrow. Beautiful clouds during the BBC feed.

So it seems that we will have two races again. One in front and the other in the middle of the pack. Kamui is starting in 18th place. He knows all about overtaking so I am sure he will gain quite a few places.

Event of the day: Heikki Kovalainen taking a spin and driving against the traffic before getting back on track.

  



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 1252 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
Heikki Kovalainen taking a spin and driving against the traffic before getting back on track

Completely missed that, TV screen is literally inches from me, heard Comm team talk about it but did not see it... must have been reading about the horrific events in Norway.

[Edited 2011-07-23 07:07:24]


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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months ago) and read 1237 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
Event of the day: Heikki Kovalainen taking a spin and driving against the traffic before getting back on track.

It's not the first time and it won't be the last time a driver has done that. It was off the track and he was turning around taking the long route to avoid driving through a gravel trap. It was hardly driving against the flow of traffic.


User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2750 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1220 times:

I just finished watching the replay of the qualifications. Congratualations to Mark, it's his second pole position in a row. Let's hope that he can turn that pole into a win tomorrow!

The four 1st drivers into 0.4 second, that should give us quite some drama for the race  



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2750 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1215 times:

Buemi has been excluded from the qualifications:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93301



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1177 times:
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Schumi is again blaming everyone but himself--

Quote:
Michael Schumacher said Mercedes failed to meet its expectations during qualifying for the German Grand Prix on Saturday.

Not sure all the blame can be laid on the silver cars..1.2 seconds behind his team mate, answering this--

Quote:
I was still nearly a second away and couldn't have matched his time, so we have to analyse deeply what could be the reason for it.

-- should be relatively easy!

BTW Michael it was over 1.2 seconds NOT "nearly a second"



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1150 times:
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From Joe Sawards F1 Blog...

Quote:
Mark Webber gave Red Bull Racing some food for thought by taking pole position for the German Grand Prix. After the team orders discussions post-Silverstone it was the Australian’s best answer to the Austrian contingent in the team. Team boss Christian Horner congratulated Webber on the radio but it sounded as though he was talking through gritted teeth – the sound quality no doubt being the problem.

Despite what I said a year or so ago, I think Christian Horner is a fine team manager, I even think he likes Mark Webber and would like to be supportive of him.
If Horner has a failing(sure he has more than one) it is that he fears the wrath of the Austro/German contingent and those that sign his cheques!
I think if CH had the courage of what I believe are his convictions, Mark would receive better treatment from the team.

[Edited 2011-07-24 06:03:00]


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10728 posts, RR: 38
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1147 times:

Hammy made some genius moves today. I hope he will win the race. Would be well deserved if he does!!

Still many laps to go so let's see...

  



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1142 times:
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Vettel certainly not comfortable in this race.

Track temps must be affecting lots of things.. remarkably it is only 1-2deg C warmer in high summer Germany than near midnight deep winter here in Sydney!!



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User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2649 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

Congrats to Hamilton, great drive!

LOL @ Alonso´s piggyback ride on Webber´s car hehehe he ran out fuel.

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10728 posts, RR: 38
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

Here's one happy Hammy!!!! This is how I like to see him!!!! Congratulations for the win!!!!

The hero of the day if Adrian Sutil. What a good 6th place!
Kamui did a really great consistent race from starting in 17th place - no mistakes at any time!!!!
Schumi is his same good Schumi. He made some great moves... I hope he will stay!!!!

I hope Hammy will savour his win!!!

For once this race will be a no-Vettel win.

Not a boring moment!!

        



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1127 times:
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Webber..Stopping to pick up another driver... you can't do that!!

Hamilton... Jumping out of Parc Ferme to greet supporters/team.. you can't do that!!

Maybe Vettel will win this after all!



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

Brilliant race. Comes to show you that Hamilton is a fighter, and when Vettel isn't handed the race on a silver platter (pole) he can't fight for the race.

Also, wicked qualy lap from Lewis as well.

P.S. question - I thought if you don't make it around on your in lap - then you're disqualified? there's no fuel sample or weighing right?


User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2539 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1121 times:
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Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 19):
Comes to show you that Hamilton is a fighter, and when Vettel isn't handed the race on a silver platter (pole) he can't fight for the race.

Vettel had brake problems throughout the race, which adversely affected his pace.



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1114 times:
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Quoting CXB77L (Reply 20):
Vettel had brake problems throughout the race, which adversely affected his pace.

So the BabySchumi is learning the Schumi SpinDoctor technique as well!!



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10728 posts, RR: 38
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1094 times:

Quoting stealthz (Reply 21):
So the BabySchumi is learning the Schumi SpinDoctor technique as well!!

There is no other Schumi than the real Schumi.
7 Times F1 World Champion. I am waiting for Sebastian Vettel to beat that.

 



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User currently onlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12037 posts, RR: 47
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1090 times:
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Wow, what a great race - multiple leaders, front 3 or 4 never apart by much, lots of overtaking. Most enjoyable.

Very good drives by Hamilton & Alonso. Webber must be wondering how on Earth he went from 1st to 3rd in one pit stop.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 20):
Vettel had brake problems throughout the race, which adversely affected his pace.

He had brake problems for part of the race, but TBH, I don't think it made a huge difference. Lots of comments that he looked "off his game" all weekend.



Hey AA, the 1960s called. They want their planes back!
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10728 posts, RR: 38
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1089 times:

The F1 taxi driver

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVQAT...-llo&feature=player_embedded#at=17

     



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25 Post contains images codeshare : Wow, what an interesting race. Lewis showed all the nay-sayers... ;P Very good pace from him, Alonso and Webber throughout the whole race. A very dese
26 bill142 : Very good drive by Hamilton and McLaren. Hamilton showed at times that he was certainly determined to take the win. He needs to stop wondering and sta
27 scbriml : A strategy question with respect to the Vettel/Massa battle at the end of the race - given that RB (and indeed Ferrari) knew that the front 3 had all
28 codeshare : Hmmm, given that the hard tyre wasn't the best (although proven opposite in the race in the final laps) and that Vettel wasn't so fast, and that Mass
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