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French Lingerie Co Touts Young Girls. Creepy!  
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8363 times:

http://bit.ly/nl7ICd



Ok I know in France attitudes toward sex is a bit more down to earth than here and I like that. I am no prude but am I wrong in thinking this is a little creepy? I mean 14 and 15 years is one thing but this is disturbing.

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User currently offlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 957 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8306 times:

How is that any different than that 5 year old beauty pageant show on US TV where fat. scuzzy mothers push their 5 year old daughters into beauty pageants with too much makeup and everything?

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8198 times:

Well I abhor the underage pageants as well but I don't see many that have the girls dress in lingerie.

User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8180 times:

It's a company that seeks to provoke with this campaign. At first I thought those kids look as if they plundered Mom's closet and played around with the clothes. But now I too am taken aback a bit.


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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 9294 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8174 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Well I abhor the underage pageants as well but I don't see many that have the girls dress in lingerie.

I agree, this is bizzarre, sick, sordid bullshit.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8156 times:

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 4):
I agree, this is bizzarre, sick, sordid bullshit.

That pic with the little girl in the pink panties is totally wrong even for France. I mean really now.


User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 9294 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8118 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 5):
That pic with the little girl in the pink panties is totally wrong even for France. I mean really now.

To be honest, I did not get that far, that is how this wacko bull affects me. I have no tolerance for children being exploited by anyone.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8114 times:

Good Lord the pics on are their homepage.

http://www.jours-apres-lunes.com/fille.html


What is to gain of a closeup of a underage girls rear end! Are mothers in France going to buy this stuff?


User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 9294 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8103 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7):
What is to gain of a closeup of a underage girls rear end! Are mothers in France going to buy this stuff?

What does it say for the Mother's, or Father's, or both, who let their children pose for these ads?



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User currently offlineqantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5870 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8095 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 5):
That pic with the little girl in the pink panties is totally wrong even for France. I mean really now.

not to dissimilar to the Vogue story a few weeks back.

pretty alarming and worrying that parents allow their kids to be exploited in this manner.

http://hitsusa.com/blog/3022/thylane-loubry-blondeau/



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User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2732 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8032 times:

I don't like any of this stuff and think it is bad taste. But to be accurate, this is not "Lingerie." It is called and marketed as "Loungerie" or Lounge wear for hanging about the house.


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User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 859 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8025 times:

Quoting johns624 (Reply 1):
How is that any different than that 5 year old beauty pageant show on US TV where fat. scuzzy mothers push their 5 year old daughters into beauty pageants with too much makeup and everything?

  

It´s scary to see children explored like this in France and US.



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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8016 times:

Okay, let's just take the word "Lingerie" out of it and what do we have? Bathing suit...that's it. If it were titled, "Bathing Suit for Kids" you wouldn't care. This is no more exploiting than an gap kids ad with a mom and daughter in matching bikinis. I see toddlers wearing bikinis all the time.

Now, if this were true adult oriented "lingerie" it would be silk with lace inserts in sexual places. I do not see this at all. I see a rather conservative looking bathing suit on a child. Is it exploitation in any form? Perhaps, I dunno. But so are those crazy kid pageants here in the US that bring out the "creme of the crop."

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User currently onlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8299 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7919 times:

Personally this is pretty tame compared to some of the perverted stuff that passes for normalcy in Japan. First you've got record companies capitalizing on the sexualization of teen and preteen girls by putting rock bands in schoolgirl uniforms:



Then there's the manga magazines full of underage girls in swimsuits:



Thirdly there are thousands of so-called "eroblogs" devoted to upskirt shots of schoolgirls taken in public by dirty old men. And lastly, stuff like this on the late-night variety shows where celebrity men debate the merits of short, shorter, and shortest schoolgirl skirts:




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User currently offlineN867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7902 times:

I feel kind of bad just looking at this stuff...almost feel the need to look over my shoulder to make sure I'm by myself. Wow, this is just wrong. I understand that different countries have different social mores, but this crosses the line.


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7902 times:

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 8):
What does it say for the Mother's, or Father's, or both, who let their children pose for these ads?

$$$$$

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 10):
I don't like any of this stuff and think it is bad taste. But to be accurate, this is not "Lingerie." It is called and marketed as "Loungerie" or Lounge wear for hanging about the house.

Hanging out at the house? Would't sweats go better? Come on.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13):
Personally this is pretty tame compared to some of the perverted stuff that passes for normalcy in Japan. First you've got record companies capitalizing on the sexualization of teen and preteen girls by putting rock bands in schoolgirl uniforms:

I hope you aren't serious. The pics you posted of are girls that are much older than the French ad campaign.


User currently onlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8299 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7893 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 15):
I hope you aren't serious.

I only posted what's safe to post. There's stuff out there on Japanese websites and fanzines that is still far worse. Preteen girls in swimsuits with camel toes and what not, just for starters. Get the drift?



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7883 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 16):
I only posted what's safe to post. There's stuff out there on Japanese websites and fanzines that is still far worse. Preteen girls in swimsuits with camel toes and what not, just for starters. Get the drift?

Why wouldn't it be safe to post? Can we stop the hijacking and stick to topic?


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7875 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 16):
I only posted what's safe to post. There's stuff out there on Japanese websites and fanzines that is still far worse. Preteen girls in swimsuits with camel toes and what not, just for starters. Get the drift?

Japanese are much worse about this than the ad is. I still don't see a problem with the French "Loungerie" advert. It's just like a bathing suit and I think the word, "Lingerie" is a misnomer for what it really is. Would I let my daughter pose for it? No. I also wouldn't let my teenage child pose for an Abercrombie and Fitch ad. Those are SUPER sexual and capitalize on sexuality of teens. Remember when you couldn't even buy that "book" of theirs unless you had a parent or were of age?

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User currently onlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8299 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7860 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 17):
Can we stop the hijacking and stick to topic?

It is the topic. This is not as bad as you think it is. It's bad PR for sure, but it's not that creepy compared to other stuff out there. If you haven't been here and seen what I'm talking about, enough with the histrionics already.

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 18):
"Lingerie" is a misnomer for what it really is

Absolutely. It's loungewear, distastefully advertised.

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 18):
Would I let my daughter pose for it? No.

Agreed.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7850 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7824 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Thread starter):
French Lingerie Co Touts Young Girls. Creepy!

Misleading title, there are no photos of this girl in lingerie in the link you posted.

However if you ever see some of the childrens clothing catalogues they send as junk mail they often have photos of young children in undies so mums can see what they look like before they buy, is this any different?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Well I abhor the underage pageants as well but I don't see many that have the girls dress in lingerie.

No they put them in bikinis and high heals, much worse and certainly more degrading if you ask me.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7820 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 19):
It is the topic. This is not as bad as you think it is. It's bad PR for sure, but it's not that creepy compared to other stuff out there. If you haven't been here and seen what I'm talking about, enough with the histrionics already.

Then post it. All I see is girls that are probably 15-17 yrs old. Not to mention what does it matter if Japan does the same thing. Does that make it right?

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 20):
Misleading title, there are no photos of this girl in lingerie in the link you posted.

What do you call that pink lace thing? It most certainly is.


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7850 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7779 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 21):
What do you call that pink lace thing? It most certainly is.

I call them undies, if you ever have a daughter you'll hopefully buy her some.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7744 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 22):
I call them undies, if you ever have a daughter you'll hopefully buy her some.

I most certainly will but not those.


User currently offlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 957 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7636 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 21):
All I see is girls that are probably 15-17 yrs old

So where do YOU draw the line? If it's underage, it's underage.


25 Starbuk7 : Sorry, my daughter at that age does NOT need to wear anything that looks like that. Once she turns 18 she can wear whatever she wants for undies, but
26 KiwiRob : have you been anywhere near a childrens clothing shop lately?
27 Siren : This is the stuff a good marketing campaign is made of. Visually striking, stirs up controversy, news stories start appearing covering the outrage - i
28 something : You are absolutely spot on. When I opened the links, I was honestly quite shocked to see what I saw. I then took a moment to reflect and ask myself w
29 Aesma : So I was at the beach the other day in Tuscany, surprisingly enough there were children of all ages in monokinis and bikinis, and not the normal burki
30 something : As I said.. humans don't think a lot and base most of their opinions on ''anticipation''. See a girl in a bikini at a beach, not a problem. See a gir
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