747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3301 posts, RR: 2 Posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3012 times:
I thought it be interesting to see which one of these cars, would you pick as your car? I know these are more of a family car, but most of these cars has a good amount of power and they least for a long time.
I drive an Accord, so that's my answer, and I really dislike Camry's, but Altima are pretty sporty.
glid4500 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 587 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3000 times:
My friend owns a Camry. He regrets buying it and seems to love love my Accord. Very realiable car and hasnt given me any troubles.I've owned a '02 Accord coupe V6 ... then traded it for an '05 Accord Sedan. When I saw the '11 Accord this past March. I fell in love after the test drive... and is presently my current ride. Slightly bigger fuel tank than the '05 model. Mines pictured below is the 4cyl. I did a roadtrip few months back Anaheim - Sacramento - Elk Grove. Drove 433 miles before the low fuel light came on.
Kngkyle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 364 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2990 times:
I think they are all kind of ugly and boring designs but if I had to pick one of the three I would go with the Accord. I find Toyota's lineup in particular to be terrible. Yaris, Prius, Corolla, Camry, Avalon... they all just look terrible.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25976 posts, RR: 78 Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2955 times:
Really depends what you are looking for. For reliability, go with the Camry or Accord. For comfort, probably the Camry. For a blend of sporting character and comfort, probably the Accord. For fuel economy, Accord. For power, the Altima.
If I were cross shopping these 3, I'd probably look for one of the very rare manual transmission Camrys and get that. Then again, I wouldn't buy any of them. I'd buy a used BMW or Mercedes.
What I wouldn't buy is a VW. I really like VWs (and Audis) but they are, by far, the most expensive cars to have worked on, even if you are well connected.
Quoting ltbewr (Reply 5): probably put together better then the 3 models you mention
I would disagree that any Hyundai is built better than a Toyota or Honda. I would disagree that any car, and I am a huge German car fan, is built better than a Toyota or Honda. Equal, maybe.
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wingman From Spain, joined May 1999, 2017 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2949 times:
Yeah, the VW's are a great design but one day on the road=one day in the shop. Among the worst reliability ratings of any manufacturer. Very odd when Porsche happens to be the very best in reliability. Maybe in their unhappy union something positive will result for VW. I'm a Honda guy myself. I don't like the latest Accord design as much as the prior one but the company has a great history and the founder, Soichiro Honda, had his own great story.
Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 32 Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2916 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 6): Really depends what you are looking for. For reliability, go with the Camry or Accord. For comfort, probably the Camry. For a blend of sporting character and comfort, probably the Accord. For fuel economy, Accord. For power, the Altima.
Funny, C&D just did a comparo of all of them and they lost to the new Passat.
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25976 posts, RR: 78 Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2916 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 9): Funny, C&D just did a comparo of all of them and they lost to the new Passat.
I can totally see that, despite the new North American Passat being a dumbed down car. VW aimed it squarely at this market, with its lower price and larger size, and should do very well. But the Passat wasn't mentioned by the OP, was it?
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WildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2498 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2907 times:
Quoting ltbewr (Reply 5): How about the Hyundai Sonata? They look a lot better than the Camry, probably put together better then the 3 models you mention and probably cheaper then any of them too.
Bad advice. I rented the Sonata a month ago; it was a disappointment. Feels cheap, handles poorly and I somehow couldn't find the 23 hp it supposed to have compared to the Altima. Not to mention that the Altima is better on fuel too. But then, my Altima is manual and the rented Sonata was obviously automatic.
Quoting N1120A (Reply 6): If I were cross shopping these 3, I'd probably look for one of the very rare manual transmission Camrys and get that.
I don't know, I drove several Camrys and I drove Altimas. Incomparable. So I selected one of those rare manual Altimas.
Of course, my 2 favourites were eliminated from the race for different reasons. The Subaru Legacy because of Subaru's ridiculous financing rates at the time and the VW Passat because of the 2.0 TFSi requiring premium fuel. If it would be today, I'd go for the current Passat. However, it won't happen as the Altima is my last family sedan ever.
As for the Altima, I have it since Dec. 2009. It's pretty peppy for a fourbanger, handles well and it's pretty good on fuel.
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7623 posts, RR: 38 Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2881 times:
Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 3): I can't stand those asian washing machines, so I'd have to go with this:
Me as well, I'd love to have a Passat CC, even the regular Passat is a great car ... unfortunatly the wagon is no longer available in Canada
Quoting N1120A (Reply 6): What I wouldn't buy is a VW. I really like VWs (and Audis) but they are, by far, the most expensive cars to have worked on, even if you are well connected.
Quoting wingman (Reply 7): Yeah, the VW's are a great design but one day on the road=one day in the shop
Quoting N1120A (Reply 8): I don't find VWs to be unreliable, just ridiculously expensive when they do have an issue.
Quoting RayChuang (Reply 11): Passat is a good-driving car but I don't trust its reliability.
To be honest, after having owned 4 VWs (1993 Passat, 1998 Passat and both had 200000+ kms, 2007 City Golf with 125000kms and a 2007 City Jetta with 80000kms), I've never had a major issue with them yet and their parts/shop rates are just as high as anyone else.
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 12): Being a current VW owner, id agree with you. The Mexican built cars are shit
My current City Jetta is a Mexican build, the only one that has been so far and I do notice a quality difference between this one and the others I've owned. However, its nothing major, just a few rattles, squeeks and gaps in the inside and a starter that wouldn't always disengage. But for the price I got it for, I'm not complaining.
Back to the OP, between those 3, I'd have to go with the Accord. The Camary is just too bland and is the new "Old Man's Buick" up here ... the Altima just looks too cheap for my liking, especially with the ricer sytle clear tail lights. The Accord used to be king of the road up here back in the 90s, but they are such a rare car now that one doesn't see them too often anymore but at least the interior and exterior styling is somewhat decent.
wingman From Spain, joined May 1999, 2017 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2835 times:
Just going by the facts guys. VW's, in relative terms, have a very high ratio of defects per thousand parts. I like them myself so don't get me wrong. But if you want quality build with long term bullet proof reliability and high resale value then get a 911 or an Accord. If you want sweet Euro styling and have money to burn on repairs then go VW.
Just going by the facts guys. VW's, in relative terms, have a very high ratio of defects per thousand parts.
My family has always had a VW in the garage for the past 40 years. If they were really as bad as everybody says why the heck would we keep buying them?
They've never given us any more trouble than other brands we've had, in fact, quite the contrary.
My mom has owned VWs all her life. My dad up until recently when I showed him the light and persuaded him to get a BMW, swore by Chrysler products . Suffice to say all his POS chryslers spent much much more time in the shop than any of my moms VWs, and consequently much more money. And we never noticed any significant difference between German and Mexican built VWs. And mind you, my mom is a damned aggressive driver, she used to race in rallies and whatnot when she was younger, she definitely drives like anything but an old lady, so it's not like she babies her cars either.
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7623 posts, RR: 38 Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2792 times:
Quoting wingman (Reply 16): But if you want quality build with long term bullet proof reliability and high resale value then get a 911 or an Accord.
911 and Accord in the same sentence?
Seriously though, VWs have exceptionally high resale values up here ... just as high if not higher than Honda and Toyota and the 4 VWs I have owned were the most bullet proof and reliable cars I've owned and also the highest mileage of any cars I've owned.
Also, if you were to drive on our local streets ... you'll see more than triple the Mk4 Golfs and Jettas compared to same years Accords, Civics, Corollas and Camarys ... thats gotta speak volumes for VWs real world long time reliability.
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 18): Hyundai's small car styling sucks. They look like they've melted in the sun.
LOL ... I find the new Sonota and Elantra have too many wrinkles
stasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3273 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2731 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 12): Being a current VW owner, id agree with you. The Mexican built cars are shit.
True. I am hoping the new Tennessee built Passat has a MUCH better build quality than my Mexico built 2004 Jetta GLS 1.8T...
Now, I was the happy owner of a 2007 Malibu. 4 cylinder automatic, basic vehicle, not alot of optional equipment. Nothing fancy, but it was a highly reliable car for 58K miles. Never once left me stranded, something I couldn't say about my VW. Also, a friend of mine is an outside sales person and she owns a 2010 Ford Fusion (and owned a 2007 Fusion) and she loves her Fusions - and she's someone who drives 35+K miles a year out here in the Arizona desert. They've been uber-reliable from her experience. Accords are overpriced, Altimas are not reliable and have so-so trade-in value, and Camry is just BORING in every way.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety!" B.Franklin
Just take a cruise around JD Power as Mham pointed out. It ain't pretty man. In just about every category and vehicle class VW is dead last or near it. But they are alone amongst German manufacturers in these stats. It's hard to comprehend and seriously depressing because I can tell you that the upcoming Touareg R is one sweet looking ride. Maybe the German built cars should be taken out of the quality reviews and measured on their own. Perhaps that would tell a different story.
But I do stand corrected on resale values. Surprisingly enough the diesel VW's in the US rank near the top for resale value (Golf and Jetta).
25 Marcus: Suzuki Kizashi.....get one with AWD, it handles (test drove them all) way way better than the Accord, Altima and Camry. For the price you get a much m
26 TSS: Agreed and agreed. If you're going to go Korean, why not go for the Hyundai Sonata's much better looking sister, the Kia Optima? It has a faintly SAA
27 BMI727: First, the only Korean cars I would likely ever consider are the Genesis and Equus. I always thought the Optima looked like if Acura made a Taurus.
28 Cadet57: Idk, we just got a Sorrento at work and i'm amazed how much of a pile of shit its not. The Koreans finally figured out the quality thing.
29 ACDC8: Personally I take consumer reports with a grain of salt, even though they put VW at the bottom of the list. Out of my own personal experience and tho
30 BMI727: Now if only they could make a car somebody would actually want.