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Racism On Board Delta 2472  
User currently onlinefahadmk From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 39 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4478 times:
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This past weekend, I was travelling to Houston, TX for a surprise birthday party for my sister. I was originally going to go with Continental/United, but because Delta had a great deal I decided to go with them and bring my mother and little sister along with me. I cancelled my booking with Continental/United and booked my ticket last Sunday.

Booking through the website was a breeze and I had my confirmation email and seat selection done with ease. I was booked onto Delta 2193 out of Newark (EWR) connecting with Delta 2472 (operated by Mesaba) out of Detroit (DTW) on my way to Houston (IAH).

The 17th rolls around and I get to the airport at 4:45 for my 6:00 AM departure. Get my boarding pass and go through security without a problem. While waiting in the boarding area, I purchase the day GoGo Internet pass, so I can get online while in the air to check some office emails. Once again, simple and easy.

The flight to DTW was quite uneventful. The crew was very professional and even gave me some extra Delta cookies and the whole can of Diet Coke. Deplaned and walked around the airport at Detroit, which I found to be beautiful.

This is where the great service I received from the ground crew at EWR and flight crew were washed away and tarred. My sister, mother and I were all tired, and knew that since we are only going to be in Houston for less than a day, we wanted to make sure we were well rested and not tired for the party.

I decided to upgrade our seats into First, so we can catch a few hours of good uninterrupted sleep. At the gate, I went to the counter, which was manned by a young lady. There were no passengers in front of me, yet I still stood there as the lady finagled with something underneath the counter. Having worked in retail, I tend to remain calm and patient, as I feel that by yelling and arguing you aren’t going to get anywhere. I waited for about 10 minutes and asked her if she could quickly just tell me if there was availability in first class.

She told me to hold on, which I did for another few minutes and I asked her again. She looked at me and said, read the TV screen behind you, it will tell you everything. I had mentioned to her that I had other questions as well, which the TV screen could not answer. After a few minutes of talking, she grabbed my boarding pass and said, “It’s gonna be $50 bucks for first”.

Funny she said that, because the screen was saying something completely different. I stood there puzzled and asked her to confirm because the screen says $100, and she said, “Yeah, its $50”.

At this point I was getting a little frustrated with her, as I was trying to figure out something so simple, and she just wasn’t willing to help. I had additional questions about load and flight time, just as conversation, but she wasn’t really willing to answer any of those. I decided I wasn’t going to subject her to the pain of doing her job, and myself to the pain of having to deal with her any further and just sat down.

I decided to forgo the upgrade simply because I couldn’t be bothered to deal with her anymore. So praying the seat next to me remained empty, I boarded the aircraft. Luckily for me, it was empty! The aircraft was a CRJ900 and the first row (bulk head) in Economy was empty. I was in the second row, seat 6A and seat 6B was empty. The seats on the other side of the isle were occupied by my sister in the isle (6C) and mother at the window (6D). Behind me in 7A was a South Asian gentleman; as well as behind my mother in 7D.

Once the doors are closed, some passengers from behind came and filled in the bulk head row in front of me, but 6B remained empty. This was great since my seat wouldn’t recline. Someone had pressed the button to recline so hard, that it was jammed in. Drinks are served and after about 35 minutes in flight I realize my iPhone is running out of charge. I use my laptop to charge it, which was in the overhead compartment above my sister.I also wanted to get a new piece of gum. I get up to get my laptop bag (rolling laptop bag) and as I am sitting down in my seat, a women runs from the rear of the aircraft and sits next to me.

Before I get a chance to open the bag, she grabs the bag from me and moves it into the isle. She then turns to me and asks, “What do you have in your bag?”

I couldn’t even answer her, because after she asked me, she began staring at the flight attendant and point to me and my bag. The attendant was standing two rows ahead of me, which on a CRJ isn’t a great distance. Unfortunately, I didn’t look to see at the attendants reaction because I was still trying to figure out what was going on.

Once I think the lady realized the attendant was not coming over, I look at the with a puzzle face. It hasn’t hit me at this point that this lady is accusing me, due to my skin color of being something I am most certainly not. I finally tell her it’s my laptop bag, and I have my laptop in it. She, at this point is staring at me as if I am going to do something to the plane and she is going to be hero.

She moves my bag further into the isle and continues to say things like:

“What are you going to do?”
“I know I am paranoid, but what are you going to do to the plane”
“I am not a psycho”
“I am nervous, and it’s not only you who is making me nervous”
“There are two other people like you The guy behind you is just like you
“I am not comfortable and I am not a psycho”
“I am going to sit here and watch you, if you don’t mind”

I tell her that I just want some gum, and she brings my bag in closer so I can open the flap and take it out. I thought it best not to take my laptop out, as who knows what she would accuse me of then. I know that in even though we live in America, there are still many prejudices we have to deal with and accept. At one point or another, we have all done it to someone. Knowing this, and knowing in detail what happened last week to 3 people of colored skin, just because they were sitting next to each other and went to the bathroom, I knew I had to remain calm.

To me, all I was thinking was; if I am to say anything or argue back, there is a very high chance of me being taken off the aircraft and missing my sisters’ birthday party. That would make this trip rather useless, now wouldn't it? It doesn’t take much for the authorities to cuff you and take you in for questioning, and we all know questioning can last a very long time. Also, being a huge fan of travelling, I could not risk being put on any lists!

A few minutes go by and she is still sitting next to me. She once again tells me that it’s not only me she is suspicious of, but the two people “like me” who are seated in row 7. She tells me that one of them went to the bathroom and I did to , and he came back looking a bit shady.

I don’t recall the exact word she used, because she was unable to articulate her words properly at this point. She keeps my laptop bag between her feet and I decide that I am just going to go back to watching movies on my iPhone. She looks at me and asks me what I am doing with “that”, referring to my iPhone. I told her, I am watching a movie, and because now I am getting frustrated, and sarcastically ask her if she wants that as well.

She sits there while I watch my movie and then gets up and goes to the flight attendant. In this time, my sister turns to me and tells me that this is not the first time she has gone to the attendant. I look over at her and she is pointing to me and saying something to the attendant in the first class cabin. Once she leaves, the attendant she comes to me for a little and then just hurries back to her seat in the back.

I was tempted to get up and say something to the attendant, but she seemed to be out of view at this point and I decide that I will deal with it later, as the flight was nearing an end and I just couldn’t be bothered. I knew that if I had started talking about it, I would lose my temper and nothing good would come of that.

Now that I had my laptop bag in my possession, I put it into the floor storage and continued onto Houston – George Bush Airport. As we deplaned, I was thinking about complaining, but my mother and sister requested that I deal with it later , as my patience had gone and I would have most probably turned back and cursed off the lady and the crew for not handling it at all.

We get to the gate and disembark from gate A14. Across the gate are the bathrooms, and my mother decides to freshen up. As they are freshening up, I stand outside and wait. The lunatic women gives me the dirtiest stare down as she and her two elder companions walk passed me.

Now, my concern is this. Why did the crew not do anything? Granted, I did not report it to them, but the lunatic lady did. Apparently on three occasions she communicated with the crew.

In today’s day in age, even though I wasn’t a threat, aren’t all threats taken into count? Now that I think about it, I don’t know if I would mind being questioned, because that would mean that the insane women would be dealt with and I would have paper proof of racial profiling.

I am going to be writing to Delta, but any ideas on what else I can do?

On a side note, as I waited at the terminal, I saw that D.L. Hughley was on my plane!


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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10395 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4278 times:

Perhaps the Flight Attendant used some common sense and disregarded what the passenger said about you. Don't forget that this is less than a week after the anniversary of 9/11 and people have been bombarded by news programs and re-runs of movies about the event. They are probably a little paranoid at this point. However that does not excuse the lady's behavior.....I'm just explaining the possible cause.


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User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4156 times:

This is what happens when unstable, or most probably unsure, people get brainwashed by that terror propaganda we call "news". You got all my deepest sympathies Fahad, never let these events spoil your life for a single second. You were right at not freaking out, you've shown how an adult person should behave.

User currently offlineUSXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4069 times:

Unfortunately the racism just isn't on Delta 2472, but its everywhere.

The moment AA 11 hit the twin towers, life for anyone of arab, or arab-looking decent was just made hell for the rest of their lives. The media flashed the terrorists photos all over TV, the media jumps at anyone in the middle east and use the words "jihad" and it has caused for a very antsy society. Heck, people even get paranoid when orthodox jews pray in flight.

Same with "black" people - while 99% of black people just want to live their lives, its the 1% that have caused many people to look at black people in a defensive mode.

:/



xx
User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3923 times:

I agree with the first two posters that it was grossly unfair to be harrassed like that by anybody. You have my sympathy. However, I would have gotten the attendants' attention if that had happened to me. Perhaps they would have instructed the woman to return to her seat and cease her harassment. As it is though, the only valid complaint you have against delta is their lack of customer service in DTW, I'm afraid. Good luck!


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User currently onlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5435 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3923 times:

You could write to Delta but it seems other than telling her to get bent, they really didn't do anything wrong.

As a person in retail, you know that there is nothing you can do to make a crazy person any less crazy...you can only try to keep them calm.

The lady was a wackjob nut. You did much better than I would have...somebody grabs my stuff and if they don't have a badge and a gun, I would not be able to remain calm.

As for the agent, writing Delta about her is a good idea. I doubt she is racist...just bitchy. She probably treats everyone like crap.



What the...?
User currently offlinedsuairptman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 898 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3787 times:

Quoting JL418 (Reply 2):
This is what happens when unstable, or most probably unsure, people get brainwashed by that terror propaganda we call "news".

   Well said.



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User currently onlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3696 times:
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That was a truly horrible thing to hear. People are just psycho. It's a shame that wackjob couldn't just sit, shut up, and mind her own business. People like her is why flying is becoming such a hassle. I'd write a serious letter to Delta, say you were harassed on board one of their aircraft and the F/A did nothing to help the situation. People need to grow up and cut out the racism.
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User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3553 times:

Quoting fahadmk (Thread starter):
I tell her that I just want some gum, and she brings my bag in closer so I can open the flap and take it out.

I don't understand??? She has your bag in control during the whole flight? I think I would have said something. Where's the air Marshall when you need them?



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User currently offlineaogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 935 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3522 times:

I typically stay out of these discussions, but in this case I feel compelled to respond.

The behavior that you were subjected to is not that of a rational person, and in my opinion, the complete lack of response from the cabin/flight crew is questionable at best. There is no way in hell that you (or anyone) should be accosted or have your personal belongings commandeered by another passenger for any reason. Cabin & flight crews exist primarily for your safety, and under the circumstances YOU were the one whose safety was at risk. Not psycho lady.

On behalf of the sane portion of the population, I apologize for the behavior of the bigots


User currently offlinechuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 763 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

oh well...

... makes me glad I'm of chinese origin. Last time someone insisted on calling me an ethnic minority, I had to explain that the likes of me account for more than a 5th of the world population. That calmed them down a bit  


User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 496 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

That's a horrible experience and I couldn't imagine the frustration you had to experience.

I hope you don't just let this event slide. That lady cleary is ....'d up in the head.


User currently offlineIH8B6 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 208 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3367 times:

I too never respond to most things on here anymore. But this one caused me to log back in.

Sorry to hear about your experience. It's a shame that in this day and age people still act this way. I would have told the lady off in the airport after the flight.

I am not sure what writing a letter will do about the situation. If every person that experienced an idiot fellow traveler wrote to airlines, there would be a nonstop mail flowing in. Also, how did you know that the flight attendant DIDN'T tell the lady to calm the hell down and shut up? If the lady was as much of a lunatic as you said, it sounds like nothing anyone would tell her would shut her up and quite her down.

Lastly, your title is misleading. I expected to read about how you experienced racism by a Delta (actually Mesaba) crew on-board a flight. As I read your experience I kept waiting for it to happen (with a Delta employee) and I thought it was coming at the Delta gate in DTW. It didn't. You should change your title to reflect who was racist on the Delta flight. It's misleading.

Good luck and ignore the lunatics....there are too many not too!

[Edited 2011-09-19 12:26:45 by srbmod]


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User currently offlineRamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 5):
As a person in retail, you know that there is nothing you can do to make a crazy person any less crazy...you can only try to keep them calm.

Yeah I'm not sure you can fault DL here. It's not like they put out an advertisement welcoming the nutters- they exist, and I'm sure they sometimes fly UA. I wasn't there, obviously, but I'm not sure the attendant really knew exactly what was going on. You should do what makes you most comfortable, but I definitely would have gone to the attendant. Then again, I'm a white dude...we're never dangerous, are we?  

Sucks that you had to go through that. Try not to let it bother you too much, it's only been a week since this year's annual day of panic and paranoia.


User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1957 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3289 times:

Did any other passengers overhear this woman? I would have given her a piece of my mind if I heard her treating someone that way. Disgusting.

User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3013 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3262 times:

I'm disappointed in the other passengers. Had I been sitting nearby, I'd have told the lady that I'd "guard" the bag and keep a eye you, now go back to her seat and keep an eye on the other passengers. Then apologize, give you back the bag and let you get on with your day...


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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4489 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

Quoting aogdesk (Reply 9):
in my opinion, the complete lack of response from the cabin/flight crew is questionable at best.

I do not envy the FA's at all in this sad story, talk about a no-win situation. I don't think the FAs could have done anything but made the situation worse if they'd gotten involved-the whole thing was a tinderbox waiting to blow up (maybe I should use another analogy). Thanks to Fahad's levelheadedness and no response from the FA, the situation eventually resolved itself. I'd say if she'd already told her wackadoo story to them, they were keeping an eye on her. If they had tried to force the issue with her, it sounded like a real possibility she could have just flown off the handle and really assaulted him or the FA.

Sometimes it's best to let sleeping dogs lie.

Quoting fahadmk (Thread starter):

In today’s day in age, even though I wasn’t a threat, aren’t all threats taken into count? Now that I think about it, I don’t know if I would mind being questioned, because that would mean that the insane women would be dealt with and I would have paper proof of racial profiling.

1) There is no need to go around diverting flights and crying Chicken Little for every single iota of a hint of "suspicion" from someone who thinks something is amiss. In fact, that could very well lead to less safety in the future. The FA's judged you to be completely not a threat. Obviously they were right.

2) I don't know what good "paper proof of racial profiling" would do you. "Racial profiling" isn't illegal, at least in this context. It doesn't have to equate to "racism" either, although it might in this case (hard to say, really). It stinks and it's totally unfair and very sad, but it's not illegal. I get "profiled" every once in awhile as a blond-haired, blue-eyed white man with a southern accent. That even hurts me.

Quoting fahadmk (Thread starter):

I am going to be writing to Delta, but any ideas on what else I can do?

I don't know what good writing to Delta would do you, as I don't see really what the flight attendants did wrong. And do you think it's worth getting them in trouble? Say they got a letter put in their file from this incident. That could affect them later in their career. Is this incident really worth it?

And if by "what else I can do" you mean "can I seek legal remedy against Delta/the woman/etc," I don't think you have much of a case. For lack of a better word, people are crappy. It happens.

[Edited 2011-09-19 12:19:55]


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3078 times:

There is no place for this sort of behavior. Russell Peters had a funny bit about a woman behaving similarly toward him on a flight not long after the actual 9/11, and pointed out just how stupid such behavior is.

In a way, I'm glad the FA ignored the woman the way she did. Its better than so many reactions we have seen, where even very frequent flyers have been harassed by airline staff, the police and the TSA because of similar (or even much milder) accusations by other people on the plane. I'd rather the FA have ordered her back to her seat and to stop harassing the OP, but this is certainly a start.

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 16):
Did any other passengers overhear this woman? I would have given her a piece of my mind if I heard her treating someone that way. Disgusting.

No doubt. Then again, I'm brown and have a funny name, so who knows what would have happened then?

[Edited 2011-09-19 12:28:24 by srbmod]


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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12435 posts, RR: 37
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3001 times:

Quoting fahadmk (Thread starter):
To me, all I was thinking was; if I am to say anything or argue back, there is a very high chance of me being taken off the aircraft and missing my sisters’ birthday party. That would make this trip rather useless, now wouldn't it? It doesn’t take much for the authorities to cuff you and take you in for questioning, and we all know questioning can last a very long time. Also, being a huge fan of travelling, I could not risk being put on any lists!

To me, this is the scariest part of all of this - that some complete "whack-job" can accuse someone like this and, on the balance of probabilities, it's most likely that you would end up being accused and put on some list.

You say that it's something that you have to live with and I understand your viewpoint; it must be a horrible thing to have to deal with and you behaved with great dignity and patience, in the face of someone who was clearly not the full shilling.

It is disappointing that the crew did not do anything; I don't feel in this case that you would achieve anything meaningful by writing to either Delta or Mesaba.


User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

Absolutely awful. No one deserves to be treated that way. I know I would not have been able to keep my mouth shut. If anyone touches my bag, that isn't a crew member and explaining themselves, I will take it back. If that woman put up a fight, I would have physically removed her form my property. Not violently, just removed her from my property. Then, I am sure the FA would have seen this, would have come over and could look in my bag. Then, I would verbally recommend restraining someone who clearly isn't mentally stable.

I think the fanatics, delusional, mentally unstable, and easily impressionable are more of a threat on-board an aircraft then ever before.

YYZRWY23



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User currently offlineIH8B6 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 208 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):
In a way, I'm glad the FA ignored the woman the way she did. Its better than so many reactions we have seen, where even very frequent flyers have been harassed by airline staff, the police and the TSA because of similar (or even much milder) accusations by other people on the plane. I'd rather the FA have ordered her back to her seat and to stop harassing the OP, but this is certainly a start.

Good point - by the flight attendant choosing to put no stock into the nut's concerns, it showed the flight attendant likely agreed with the OP - the lady was crazy. "Ignore it and it will go way approach"!

The nut job lady will probably write a letter to Delta about having to ride DTW-IAH with the suspicious passenger in 6A that watches movies on his laptop and the flight attendant ignoring her claims!



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4489 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 20):
To me, this is the scariest part of all of this - that some complete "whack-job" can accuse someone like this and, on the balance of probabilities, it's most likely that you would end up being accused and put on some list.

I don't agree with the latter half of your statement. From what I understand this situation is hardly rare, but usually ends in a manner similar to this -- cooler heads prevail, the flight proceeds as planned, and no one is ever hassled.

While security in the US is "vigilant," we are not barbarians. It's not perfect, but it does a pretty good job most of the time.



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

Somehow , reading your report made me angry towards you. Since this woman trespassed your boundries, several times, you should've showed her where your line to stop is. This is what she was perhaps was asking for. You could even ask the cabin crew to be reseated, according to the harrasement of this woman , who forgot to take her medicaments. Then the cabin crew would have at least come into action.

Try not to play the race card anymore.. try to deal with it as an adult, even if you have to fight for it and have to speak up!

And forget about what happened three weeks before with other black dudes, who where obviously acting strange on a plane.

Here you are talking about your situation.

cheers: DALelite



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User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1630 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2701 times:

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 5):
As a person in retail, you know that there is nothing you can do to make a crazy person any less crazy...you can only try to keep them calm.

I completely agree with this one. Judging by how the OP described the situation, it doesn't sound like there was anything else he (or anyone else) could have done to make the lady drop the subject. In fact, I think there's a good chance that any action by you or the flight attendant to prove her wrong would just set off a powder keg and make matters much worse. I don't think any nearby passengers could have reassured her, either - she wanted to make sure she PERSONALLY had her eye on you, and anyone else volunteering to help instead of her would probably be seen as an "accomplice" to your "nefarious" acts.

It's a shame that these situations sometimes can't be avoided, but this lady is part of the 1% of people out there who don't think rationally, no matter what. And as much as I would like to think otherwise, she truly is incorrigible and no amount of persuasion will ever change her set-in ways. I commend you for being mature and keeping your cool in this situation; lord knows what I would have done.



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User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3629 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Ummm, she "confiscated" your bag for no reason and you did nothing? I understand that you didn't want this to escalate but I would have called the flight attendant to let her know that a crazy woman has taken my hand luggage. I would also ask for the police to meet her at the destination, now that would be appropriate!

25 AR385 : I´m sorry, but I don´t agree with many statements made on this thread. Obviously the lady was either mentally unstable, forgot her medication that d
26 varigb707 : Hey, the terrorists called and wanted to say : 'Winning". That's what they wanted. Panic and fear, nothing else. I don't mean to be "funny" or make f
27 csavel : THis. I am not discounting legitimate security for terrorism but the "security theater" and the porno scanners and the shoes off and the meek way we
28 soon7x7 : I would have told her I just have connected from a long International flight from the Middle East and have really bad gas, but she is welcome to sit n
29 Ronglimeng : It maybe "the land of the free" down there, but that's mostly because it is "the home of the brave", eh? You need to grow a pair and be ready to stand
30 gigneil : I'll be honest, I've seen people behave like that on a number of DL flights to MSP and DTW. NS
31 adh214 : I applaud your patience in dealing with this person. Unfortunately, Delta can't prevent rude paranoid people from boarding their planes. Certainly, yo
32 Post contains images TSS : That sentence really needs to be made into a bumper sticker. I'm inclined to agree with Lewis and AR385 on this. While I can ignore someone watching
33 gocaps16 : I'm surprised you kept your cool in this situation, kudos to you but you should have notified the crew since this lady was harassing you and asking yo
34 lewis : I will admit, too far, but seeing that people have had to deal with the police for much much less than that, I wouldn't hesitate to use the system ag
35 zrs70 : This post was way too long. I was expecting a turn of events in the first part, when dealing with the upgrade. But it seems like that had nothing to d
36 474218 : fahadmk: After reading your initial post several times I cannot find any point where RACISM was exhibited by anyone? Where did anyone suggest one race
37 gigneil : I'm sorry, you don't understand where there's racism? Really? Picking someone out of a crowd with dark skin, when you are light skinned, and accusing
38 ju068 : Well the woman was obviously mad, it would have been a totally different situation if she wasn't. Plus, it's not her fault but that of the US governm
39 777way : There are always these types hanging around here who will try to favour the guilty party by making the poster appear incorrect and the wholr thing se
40 gigneil : Mad or not, it was still racially motivated behavior. You know? NS
41 777way : Being harassed in white Europe? for being Serb, no big deal IMO, its like me being harassed in the Middle East, I wouldnt even care except think low
42 ju068 : I understand your point and it would make perfect sense if the person was in the right state of mind, which she obviously wasn't. Plus, I am sure tha
43 777way : But in India you were the superior white race, other than disgust I doubt you felt insulted as other races do when harassed in white countries, I woul
44 777way : White harassing white is racism to you? if I get harassed by my own country men or people of my ethnicity and culture elsewhere say Muslim Pakistani e
45 lewis : He stood there and took it so as not to escalate it. What else could he have (not) done? Anyone who behaves like that because of someone else's race
46 Post contains images ju068 : I am not implying anything, however I can't be sure this happened as I wasn't there. I am just using what he is providing us with. Yes, just that the
47 DeltaMD90 : Dude, racism is racism. How about a bunch of American blacks (who many view themselves as the superior race) making discriminating against a white pe
48 Quokka : Racism is not always based on notions of superiority or the result of hatred. Racism often means treating people adversely because of assumed characte
49 474218 : You are confusing Racism with Bigotry! Racism: a belief that that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. Bigotry or
50 lewis : You'd be surprised! I wouldn't have any patience with people being abusive towards me and my property, whether they are "mad" or not, that is for sur
51 NASCARAirforce : You shoulda taken that First class for $50, woulda been a bargain. I don't think this woman even knew what she was doing, she was probably a schizo.
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