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User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7187 posts, RR: 86
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2542 times:
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I'm going to look for one next trip to China.   

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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21509 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

China, true to form: stealing ideas. There's been one of these in Brooklyn for a while now.  

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User currently offlineRGElectra80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

I wonder what Chinese copyright laws are like? KFC would quash this in a second here.


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User currently offlinevarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

It's official now... China is trolling the U.S.


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

Quoting fxramper (Thread starter):
I'm going to look for one next trip to China.  

Since you're willing to go thru all that trouble..you should do it right and go in 'Blackface'..

..you'll be a utube sensation!

BN747



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39684 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2117 times:

Pattaya, Thailand already has a restaurant named Obama.

Not sure how popular fried chicken is in Kenya but it is very popular among Asians, especially Chinese. I seriously doubt Barack Hussein Obama would know how to run a restaurant of any sort.
This does go to show that Obama has little to no respect internationally. Only western Europe and Kenya seems to still like him.



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2978 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

I heard the restaurant is now serving both left wings and right wings!


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User currently offlinekiwiinoz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2079 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 9):
I heard the restaurant is now serving both left wings and right wings!

Well done, very clever

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
This does go to show that Obama has little to no respect internationally. Only western Europe and Kenya seems to still like him.

I agree. I live, (sort of) in China and they seem generally bemused about Obama. However China is getting a growing superiority complex about the success of it's political system and quietly turns it's nose up at any democracy.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39684 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 10):
I agree. I live, (sort of) in China and they seem generally bemused about Obama.

Same here in Thailand but of course they'll still sale his t-shirts to gullible European tourist to make a few extra dollar$.  
Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 10):
However China is getting a growing superiority complex about the success of it's political system and quietly turns it's nose up at any democracy.

You think China only does this to democracies? I doubt it.
I do admire China for thumbing its nose up to proponents of one world government and the UN. I wish more countries would do the same.

[Edited 2011-10-02 20:24:57]


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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1992 times:

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 10):
I live, (sort of) in China and they seem generally bemused about Obama. However China is getting a growing superiority complex about the success of it's political system and quietly turns it's nose up at any democracy.

I agree, and I've also lived in a large Chinese city and if anyone has done their homework and knows chinese history..this can grow into huge problem in the future. This superiority complex mirrors that of 1930s Japan in confidence and attitude. An contrary to Superfly's beliefs.. this match was lit long before Obama arrived on the scene and has nothing to do him.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
I do admire China for thumbing its nose up to proponents of one world government and the UN. I wish more countries would do the same

China's not doing this in the style of Fide Castro's middle finger gesture as you think..it's a different kind of ball game, and not a good or innocuous one.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Only western Europe and Kenya seems to still like him.

I take it that Tea Party/GOP membership has arrived in the mail.. because that kind of wayward 'shake n bake' assessment couldn't be further from the truth.

BN747



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39684 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 12):
An contrary to Superfly's beliefs.. this match was lit long before Obama arrived on the scene and has nothing to do him.

Superfly never blamed Obama for any of this.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 12):
China's not doing this in the style of Fide Castro's middle finger gesture as you think..it's a different kind of ball game, and not a good or innocuous one.

Well aware of that and I know China is far from perfect. I just like to see more countries give the middle finger to the United Nations.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 12):
I take it that Tea Party/GOP membership has arrived in the mail.. because that kind of wayward 'shake n bake' assessment couldn't be further from the truth.

Umm ok, tourist from western Europe visiting other parts of the world seem to still love him.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12333 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 9):
I heard the restaurant is now serving both left wings and right wings!

And will be serving roast donkey next November!



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2978 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 12):
And will be serving roast donkey next November!

Too early for that. The way things are going, I may find elephant meat on the menu as well.



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User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2055 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):

This does go to show that Obama has little to no respect internationally. Only western Europe and Kenya seems to still like him.

Obama is well liked all over the world, even in China, and they traditionally don't have the greatest regard for US presidents. Chinese society is still very racist compared to the West, and it's no wonder they look down on Obama somewhat. It's not pretty, and the anti-Obama crowd really should look elsewhere for finding material to put the man down.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39684 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

Quoting Rara (Reply 14):
Obama is well liked all over the world, even in China,

That was true in 2008.
Obama is still very popular in western Europe, Africa and small liberal pockets in the US but that's about it.

Quoting Rara (Reply 14):
Chinese society is still very racist compared to the West, and it's no wonder they look down on Obama somewhat.

That is true but the fried chicken stereotype isn't well known outside of the US and certainly not in China. If anything, its an unfortunate coincidence and in the ad, they're emphasizing the 'cool' factor of Obama.
Despite his horrible job performance, he is still considered 'cool' by many people.

Quoting Rara (Reply 14):
the anti-Obama crowd really should look elsewhere for finding material to put the man down.

Yes he has screwed up so much and there are so many other things that are more relevant to accurately criticize Obama.



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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4895 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1742 times:

Guys, could we keep this going as just a funny thread? There are plenty of Obama bashing threads on a.net that pop up religiously every day.

Thanks!


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 16):
Guys, could we keep this going as just a funny thread? There are plenty of Obama bashing threads on a.net that pop up religiously every day.

First off, there's nothing funny about the thread - when it is introduced by a certain type of right-wing hater of Obama (and I mean the type that despised him from the very start). This thread was made in the same vain as the GOP official who sent postcards of the Obama White House littered with watermelons all over the gardens & lawns. He thought it was funny..and still to this very day hasn't a clue as to what he did wrong. This 'funny joke' here, is presented in the same vain of thinking. But again..it's about who is presenting it. On average, the typical American possess a centered and balanced characteristic sense of 'fairness' and fair play'... it's better known as 'give the guy a chance' perspective. It applies in everything competitive from little league baseball all the way up to the Presidency. America has been about that for decades..among the average populace that is. Except when race is involved..suddenly that (among some still) that offer of understanding is withdrawn and suddenly has a much shorter leash or none at all.

When a person is the type to consistently slam a person of color (any color) and never champion or cheer the same when such is warranted or deserved - it smacks clearly of racial animosity and disgust. Only fool pretends 'more investigation' is required. It works the same way when you hear a male endlessly making hateful comments about women - it's clear what his problem is. Same applies here. So the problem lies with who introduces the 'joke' a person with a known predisposed dislike of the type people or person or one that is known to be completely neutral on such matters. In this case, it points more toward the former.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
That is true but the fried chicken stereotype isn't well known outside of the US and certainly not in China. If anything, its an unfortunate coincidence and in the ad, they're emphasizing the 'cool' factor of Obama.

You couldn't be more wrong, the infamous 'Darkie' toothpaste commercials ran endlessly on chinese tv in the 70s and can still be found on the internet. America exported it's (past) racists stereotypes/views as if they were selling like hot cakes. Simply look at any WWII film or show depicting black and white troops abroad and on recreational time with the locals - and how white Americans were emphatic on imposing homegrown racism on foreign turf because they didn't like the equal acceptance extended to their black fellow soldiers. Look at what American did during the building of the Panama Canal in the early 1900s - split the races with a knife..after they'd manage to peacefully co-exist for quite some time.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
That was true in 2008.
Obama is still very popular in western Europe, Africa and small liberal pockets in the US but that's about it.

Your own personal view which does not cancel out Rara's personal take (which I believe to be much more accurate).

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):

Despite his horrible job performance, he is still considered 'cool' by many people.

Probably because more people have a better understanding of the unjust and unfair attacks coming at him than you do. Just last week my mail lady was telling me 'that because she was still engaged in deliveries beyond 7pm ..a few neighbors growled that the Postal Service was a mess because of Obama. For me that was the last straw..I could not believe that people were thsi ignorant - here anyway. This - in liberal lily white (and Persian) Beverly Hills. If some here have gone this far off the rails to buy into the TeaParty/GOP's hate-him-at-all-cost full on assault strategy.. the American people are dumber than Bill Maher insist they are. Or perhaps I just have stupid neighbors (the case can be made there too). Nonetheless, the comments I seen here and in other Obama hatefest threads proves the TeaParty/GOP spin has some validity and reach. It was Bush that got 100,000s killed over a BS lie, not Obama. It was Bush that lorded over the economy crashing and burning into flames - not Obama. And if you listen to some on these boards - you'd swear it was the other way around. I think the issue that irks me the most .. is the people who should know better - seem to be eating it up like hot buttered waffles. I expect the usual suspects to pander their schtick, it's their nature.. but for those who are choosing to fold and buy into this silliness is just mind boggling.

Their evaluation skills must be called into question..just 3 weeks ago - you can see it in the threads here - they were near sexual orgasm as Rick Perry entered the race. You didn't have to be a social studies or civics professor to see this guy was a moron. He had laid it all out years earlier with his 'Texas should succeed' and other clownish conduct. But some people managed to just 'ignore' all that and say ..here we go ....we've got a real leader! Then they discover - or should I say -RE-discovered that he's dumber than a box of rocks and more crooked than ficus twig! If you had to wait to see it on tv after all that has gone before... you should not make your opinions known and expect people to believe -for a second- that you know what you're talking about. Because you clearly you do not. It's beyond amazing at how many people somehow need to re-live the Bush years to jump start their memories what a disaster that was. A part of me wishes the election was held today. so that Perry would win and they'd have their wish - GWB II, and it would be worse than McCain would have been. When dumb mistakes are repeated, the outcome is well deserved.

BN747



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39684 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
You couldn't be more wrong, the infamous 'Darkie' toothpaste commercials ran endlessly on chinese tv in the 70s and can still be found on the internet. America exported it's (past) racists stereotypes/views as if they were selling like hot cakes.

Ok so who is the American responsible for the OFC in China?



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
You couldn't be more wrong, the infamous 'Darkie' toothpaste commercials ran endlessly on chinese tv in the 70s and can still be found on the internet. America exported it's (past) racists stereotypes/views as if they were selling like hot cakes.

Ok so who is the American responsible for the OFC in China?

A TeaParty Member? Who knows and who cares...? I was simply addressing your minimizing the reach of past exported American brand racism and the negative overtones of 'this supposed joke' and the motives behind posting.

You're quite resourceful...you'll figure it out.

BN747



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39684 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1549 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 18):
I was simply addressing your minimizing the reach of past exported American brand racism

No I wasn't. Keep in mind, Europe exported lots of racism as well.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 18):
'this supposed joke'

I see nothing funny about it. Perhaps the thread starter can explain this one.


Fried Chicken is very popular in Asia.

There is a lot of lack of understanding of the western world in the Far East. Just last week here in Thailand, a school put on a Nazi parade. The students were dressed in full Nazi military uniform with the Nazi flag and even had Nazi rifles. This was meant to be a fun, festive show for the parents at an expensive private school. The school administrators didn't understand why there was outrage from the westerners that watched. They honestly didn't have any intentions of angering anyone. They just simply didn't know that side of European history. In fact, the average person here isn't aware of the genocide of the Khmer Rouge next door just 1 generation ago.
Poking your nose in another country’s affairs is purely a western thing.



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):

Quoting BN747 (Reply 18):
I was simply addressing your minimizing the reach of past exported American brand racism

No I wasn't. Keep in mind, Europe exported lots of racism as well.

Yes they have ...but in a more subtle manner. They exported products are apples and oranges.. simply look at the way blacks were treated in 1930s, 40s France vs the US.

Europeans exported divisiveness and superiority. America exported those two plus stinging dehumanization and a structured methodical procedures of how the practice was to be executed and maintained. More like South Africa's Apartheid if that could have exported. Big difference.

As for the Thailand Nazi festival...I'm sure it's not the only one going on around the globe by the lesser informed.

BN747



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User currently offlinecws818 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1176 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):

Quoting BN747 (Reply 18):
I was simply addressing your minimizing the reach of past exported American brand racism

No I wasn't. Keep in mind, Europe exported lots of racism as well.

Europe has evolved. Europe and Europeans deserve a great deal of credit for that.



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

Quoting cws818 (Reply 21):

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):

Quoting BN747 (Reply 18):
I was simply addressing your minimizing the reach of past exported American brand racism

No I wasn't. Keep in mind, Europe exported lots of racism as well.

Europe has evolved. Europe and Europeans deserve a great deal of credit for that.

You are aware that we are discussing past events that lead to current (and fading) conditions...right?

BN747



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39684 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1500 times:

Quoting cws818 (Reply 21):
Europe has evolved. Europe and Europeans deserve a great deal of credit for that.

They have?   
That is what they're telling you but that is far from the truth.
Explain all of the monkey chats and bananas thrown at soccer players of African origin throughout Europe today?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmOzkPRrRlw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j59BiLwdNO8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzLECtFT4aU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRKk2K3fMk0

...and you say Europe has "evolved"?

Quoting BN747 (Reply 20):
As for the Thailand Nazi festival...I'm sure it's not the only one going on around the globe by the lesser informed.

Can't compare this festival to the same sort of ignorance going on in Eastern Europe with their Nazi activity.
The festival by the school here in Thailand was meant to be a sweet & innocent parade by school children. It as not meant to insult Jews, Gypsies, handicap and all others murdered by the Nazis.
This school parade was very unfortunate and goes to show a lack of understanding of Western history.
Today’s Nazi activity in the streets of Russia, Ukraine and other Eastern European nations is violent and is responsible for the deaths of hundreds and thousands of injuries of immigrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle-East.
Even though the Nazis hated Slavic people, it hasn't stopped some ignorant Slavs in Eastern Europe from carrying out murder in the name of Nazism.



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User currently offlinekiwiinoz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
That is true but the fried chicken stereotype isn't well known outside of the US and certainly not in China

I just like the fact that there is a "fried chicken stereotype". Sounds kind of wierd. There has been a time in life where I could have also been stereotyped as the "fried chicken guy".

Also, I have heard of the "watermelon stereotype" before but don't know what this is. Could someone explain?

I agree that the stereotype probably has nothing to do with this OFC thing. It is more likely plugging into the Chinese love of American cultural icons and fried chicken, (They go through buckets like crazy!)


25 homer71 : Don't forget the collard greens stereotype Sincerely, Fuzzy Z.
26 BN747 : The Fried Chicken & Watermelon 'slanderous history' is birthed in pre-Civil War USA. It comes from a fraudulent attempt by Southern whites of the
27 Revelation : Just to be clear, the 'triangle trade' system (North America - Europe - Africa) that was the driving force behind slavery in North America (and the C
28 Post contains images OA412 : Oh please, your talking points over the last few years have all been straight out of the Tea Party handbook. Your opinion. It may be, but then why di
29 Superfly : Where on earth are you getting that from? Where have I "justified" any of this? Go ahead and stick up for those who will agree with you but that does
30 BN747 : I'm very well studied on Triangular Slave Trade Routes..but that well known fact has zero to with the exportation of 'institutionalized racism' in cu
31 Revelation : I think the triangle trade is the root cause of African slavery in the Americas, and I think African slavery is the root cause of the institutional r
32 BN747 : I see where you might think that, but that's not quite the complete picture. 1) Slavery has always been around in some form or another (and still exi
33 geekydude : I am not aware of anyone around me who has the faintest idea what this "fried chicken stereotype" is about. If anything, we Chinese truly love KFC, a
34 Post contains links and images Superfly : ....and me as a chubby-chasser love the affect of KFC on the Far-East
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