sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6224 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2881 times:
Bachelor's and Master's in Aerospace Engineering, and an MBA in International Business. I'd love to get my PhD, but...I've got other things I would rather do with my time and money at this point. And I'm lazy
Springbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2832 times:
Quoting desertjets (Reply 6): Yes. Got a few and have the student loan debt to prove it.
Bachelor's and Master's in Molecular Biology, MBA and currently working on my medical degree (called MBBS here, I think its MD in the US/North America). Hoping to finally get a job when I'm done in about 1 and a half years because all my other degrees have proven to be useless when it comes to getting a decent job.
DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 6651 posts, RR: 51 Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2765 times:
Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 13): Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 10):
Bachelors in Criminal Justice, and just yesterday, started my Masters in Aeronautics! Now that's more like it
Is this the typical career path for people wanting to be an air marshal? Not that I think that's what you want to be, but I was a forester working for an airline, what do you want to do, just curious?
lol, I get this question a lot. My life plan has varied over the years, but the 2 constants have been commissioning in the military (degree required) and going in the airlines (degree required.) For both, no specific degree was required. I went to NGCSU and the degree that interested me the most was Criminal Justice. Now that I'm going in full time soon, I decided to pursue my degree online. Since I had many more choices online, I decided to go aviation for my Masters just to try that out--getting a BS and MS in CJ is redundant according to my CJ teachers. I'm only going for my Masters in the event I want to stay in the military longer (you need a Masters to get promoted to O-4 or O-5, I forget which.)
Can't answer your direct question with complete accuracy, but for law enforcement, many work up the totem pole. I'll say "many" a lot, but keep in mind there are exceptions everywhere. You start out at a local agency, work up experience to get a state position, then work longer to go federal. Degrees are often essential to these offerings, but I don't know if FAMs need Bachelors. Getting the 2 degrees I am getting would probably land a FAM position a lot more quickly than someone without these 2 degrees, but the time and effort it takes to get the 2 degrees is probably overkill. Just my limited opinion though
Anyone here have a PhD? I am thinking about pursuing that just for the sake of educating myself. I think education is very important, even though a PhD wouldn't do me any good (as I have no desire to pursue anything beyond airline pilot.) I was thinking about Embry-Riddle's PhD in aviation, supposedly the first and only PhD in aviation. I'd be a true a.net nerd
I bet, but have you ever considered a job with the FBI, NTSB, State Department or Treasury (aka Secret Service)? If you don't know already, every government agency has people who can carry a weapon. From the Department of Education to the NTSB (or DOT).
desertjets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7719 posts, RR: 17 Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2736 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14): Anyone here have a PhD? I am thinking about pursuing that just for the sake of educating myself. I think education is very important, even though a PhD wouldn't do me any good (as I have no desire to pursue anything beyond airline pilot.) I was thinking about Embry-Riddle's PhD in aviation, supposedly the first and only PhD in aviation. I'd be a true a.net nerd
I am a PhD program dropout, if that counts for anything. Wrong time to do the degree, not in the right mindset, not in the right place in life, not in the right program. I decided halfway through my second semester that I wanted out, buy still lingered on for another year because I was doing a job search from the other side of the country.
A PhD isn't something that you go into for funsies. There is a level of intensity and commitment that is involved that isn't like anything else you've done academically. You really have to have a specific goal in mind for that degree or else it isn't going to happen.
A PhD in aviation??? I mean this with all due respect, but WTH does that degree even cover and then what do you do with it?
Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
elmothehobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1524 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2722 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14): I'm only going for my Masters in the event I want to stay in the military longer (you need a Masters to get promoted to O-4 or O-5, I forget which.)
During the 'good years' O-3 to O-4, an M.A. was not required, but highly recommended; from O-4 to O-5 it was not "required", but in excess of 90% of O-5s had a MA+. It also depends on MOS, etc... Medical Service Corps, for example, requires an "AMEDD approved MA" to move from O-3 to O-4, Quartermasters tend to either start or get their MBAs as O-3s.
I got my BA in International Studies (International affairs), and I am in my final semester of graduate school, working on an MA in Political Science (International Relations & U.S. Domestic Policy). Worry not though, after seven years of post secondary education (with 1 science and 1 math class), the Army sees fit to send me to school for another year... to fly learn to fly Blackhawks. Who-woulda-thunk.
DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 6651 posts, RR: 51 Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2721 times:
Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 15): I bet, but have you ever considered a job with the FBI, NTSB, State Department or Treasury (aka Secret Service)?
Law enforcement is something I'd do if the military and aviation don't work out. I'm thinking about doing reserve policing later in life, just to get a taste of it.
Quoting desertjets (Reply 18): A PhD isn't something that you go into for funsies. There is a level of intensity and commitment that is involved that isn't like anything else you've done academically. You really have to have a specific goal in mind for that degree or else it isn't going to happen.
It's more than just for fun, I feel like I need to do something great in life. My dad came from nothing and ended up where he is at, I feel I need to do something. I want to pursue a very high level of education and learn a foreign language (which is kind of a feat in America even if it's almost essential for living in other countries.)
Quoting desertjets (Reply 18): A PhD in aviation??? I mean this with all due respect, but WTH does that degree even cover and then what do you do with it?
I would do that just because I love aviation and do not feel like starting over from square one with something like physics. Here is the page: http://aviationphd.erau.edu/ I do not downplay the commitment and realize it will probably be my undoing. I hate writing papers of any length, so a dissertation would be horrendous for me.
steeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 8968 posts, RR: 18 Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2682 times:
BA in environmental geography, Millersville University of PA, 2006
BA in geography and planning, West Chester University of PA, 2007
MA in geography and planning, West Chester University of PA, 2010
Working as a caregiver, but I really want to (sooner as opposed to later) want to work as an urban planner. With all the education I have, you'd think I should be getting interviews left and right. Unfortunately, I get more REJECTIONS left and right; no offer to come in for an interview... It's as if my advanced education doesn't matter...
Even the job openings in my field are senior-level this, executive-level that, director of such-n-such department. My credit is probably headed for the basement because I'm having a hard time paying off my loans while making only $20k a year. I tried to sign up for some kind of federal assistance with the job search, but they only want to give me a grant for more schooling. What the hell else could I go to school for?
Do not bring stranger girt into your room. The stranger girt is dangerous, it will hurt your life.
flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6791 posts, RR: 6 Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2671 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14): You start out at a local agency, work up experience to get a state position, then work longer to go federal.
You dont really need to go Local-State-Fed most are Local or State to Fed or Military to Fed. But there are a lot of Special Agents that had no prior Law Enforcement jobs. Places like the FBI, DEA, ATF need agents with special skills and graduate degrees etc.. There are many agents with law degrees out there or science or language based degrees. However the majority come from a local/state agency or the military. But not a overwhelming majority.
I dont think they do, I am pretty sure they are not 1811 "Special Agents" but any special agent job, USSS, DEA, FBI, ATF, Inspector General at any government agency needs a 4 year degree.
Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 15): I think most LEOs end up getting a degree because compensation increases with eduction in Law Enforcement. Anyway, sorry to hijack the thread.
Yea at the local level this is true. At the federal level most already have it.
Quoting steeler83 (Reply 23): Working as a caregiver, but I really want to (sooner as opposed to later) want to work as an urban planner.
Best of luck! The problem is there are a lot of people out there who have already worked the jobs since they do not have any jobs either. Being a geography degree holder myself it is an expanding field though. There are jobs out there.
The DEA has pretty large fleet of aircraft from Helicopters to Cessnas, King Airs and Lears. All of their pilots are actual Agents so they are not just pilots. You have to work 2 years as an agent and if you have say a commercial certificate and some decent hours can apply to be a DEA pilot. One of the cooler jobs out there I think. Always keeping that option in my back pocket but Fed LEO jobs are very very competitive.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
25 steeler83: Yeah... They probably were laid off and are taking up available entry-level jobs just so they can remain in their (our) field. How in the hell am I s
26 tz757300: BA Geography/Geographic Information Systems Pursuing my MA in Urban Affairs and Public Policy, which halfway into my 1st semester, is quite a doozy co
27 lh526: Diplom Ingenieur, Masters degree in Architecture. Striving for PhD Mario LH526
28 canoecarrier: Didn't mean for you to take that wrong, my apologies! We both know getting a degree of any kind is at the least a commitment.
29 DeltaMD90: This might not be the case in your field, but in some fields it helps to diversify your MS degree. My girlfriend is in education and they suggest she
30 AF340: I'll have a Bachelor of Science in International Relations in a year and a half -- if that counts. Hopefully a law degree after that. See how the LSAT
31 Fly2HMO: BS in Aeronautical Science, which is a glorified and really expensive way of saying "I'm just another broke ass pilot"
32 sw733: Haha well maybe for PART of the metro area! However, I live in Johnson County KS which actually has one of the highest education levels (by county) i
33 stratosphere: BS in computer information systems.. Working on my masters.
34 NSMike: Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Geology Bachelor of Computer Science
35 N243NW: Bachelor of Science in Aerospace Engineering along with a minor in Aviation Science (basically a fancy Part 141 way of getting my Commercial ASMEL). W
36 Rara: Masters in sociology. Served me well so far.
37 wilco737: No. Don't have one, don't need one for my job wilco737
38 Zentraedi: BS in Electrical and Computer Engineering
39 planeguy727: BA, Sociology MS, Health Education EdD, Higher Education Administration (ABD - should finish within 6 months) Also major doctoral coursework in Public
40 signol: Yes. BSc in Modern Languages (French) MSc in Computer Science. signol
41 comorin: Without an indefinite article, the topic heading of this thread is unintentionally absurd. Grr...
42 TCASAlert: Nope. Didn't see the point in racking up 3 years worth of debt, when in that time I could earn over £52,000 instead and end up debt free. My work exp
43 Baroque: Good grief, without being a aviation engineer I can think up half a dozen topics, that would just need a bit of tarting up by the experts. I can even
44 Fly2HMO: A mostly useless degree, IMO. Unless you're some sort of promising future aviation prodigy, that degree will be a waste of effort and above all money
45 Baroque: Of course you would need an AE degree first, but with a PhD in aeronautical engineering I assume you could walk into B, LM or A with a fair choice of
46 comorin: You could also get a job on Wall Street. CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics) is much in demand in Financial Engineering.
47 Fly2HMO: You're overlooking the fact that the degree he's talking about is a generic aviation PhD. Basically saying I'm a big aviation nerd. That's why I beli
48 flymia: Agreed, I have no idea what this PhD would be used for.
49 desertjets: If you would have looked at the link he posted, I did, you'll find that the PhD is a very vague, interdisciplinary degree. Probably not too dissimila