flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6323 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 771 times:
Surprised this thread did not get much attention.
Google the story plenty of info out there, most animals have been killed a few captured one monkey still missing.
Anyway I will post this link because anyone who thinks these were "animal killers" is just wrong and is not thinking straight. Anyone with any doubts about the need to kill these animals needs to watch this video first: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bes.../tsr-hanna-ohio-exotic-animals.cnn
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
First thing I did was go to the PETA site, the writer of the story didn't mention "tranquilize first" but the posters did. I'm an animal lover and I'm sad to see this but you can't put human life in jeopardy trying to save these wild animals...
This a good reason to not let owners have these animals (though if I recall, it is illegal anyway)
WarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6548 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 757 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 3): This a good reason to not let owners have these animals (though if I recall, it is illegal anyway)
It was not illegal in Ohio, I believe there are twelve states where it is not illegal. The rest have different standards, some have outright bans, some partial. I hope this triggers all to ban this insanity.
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flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6323 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 744 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 3): First thing I did was go to the PETA site, the writer of the story didn't mention "tranquilize first" but the posters did. I'm an animal lover and I'm sad to see this but you can't put human life in jeopardy trying to save these wild animals...
This a good reason to not let owners have these animals (though if I recall, it is illegal anyway)
I think PETA should be upset about the state law. No one should be upset about the killing it had to be done. Agree with you there. Of course there are going to be those, "OMG they killed all those animals."
Saw a funny comment on CNN about someone who said how horrible this was.
" yes every police force in the country should have a 40-50 wild dangerous animal gathering crew on stand by ready to go to safely put these deadly animals away"
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 5375 posts, RR: 47 Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 739 times:
Quoting flymia (Reply 5): I think PETA should be upset about the state law.
Oh they were, I just meant the writer wasn't up in arms about the killing of the animals, though the writer was sad and wants this prevented. Kudos to the writer, better than a lot of the sensationalist stuff they post on that site...
mke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2327 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 720 times:
I can't get over how crazy it must've been if you were goin down the street in rural Ohio and all of the sudden you see a bunch of lions coming at you?! Its too bad that most of the animals had to be put down though, especially the Bengal tigers because I've read that's an endangered species and there's only like 1,400 of them alive.
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Baroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 60 Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 656 times:
Laws can be very strange. It used to be permitted to keep big cats in the UK and even take them for a walk provided they were "under restraint" but happily it was banned in the 1980s. Under restraint turned out to be a thickish piece of string!!!
I knew of a butcher in the 1950s in the N of England who kept lions and tigers and took the better behaved ones for walkies down the nearby country lanes. One of his lions, Ricky, appeared in the film called IIRC Nor the moon by night. And for that, Ricky had to be flown out to Africa and back again, which did nothing to improve his temper.
In his biography he writes about taking another lion he called Sheeba for a walk down a lane near his house on a dog leash. Sheeba liked to lie down in long grass. As she was doing this, a man with two whippets (think small greyhounds) appeared at the end of the road. Owner of lion shouted down to man with whippets, you had better put your dogs on a leash.
Man with whippets, "If you have a soft dog, he will just have to look after himself".
Owner of lion feeling he would not be believed if he explained the real nature of the problem, "No it is not a soft dog, put yours on the leash".
At this point Sheeba arose from the grass when the whippets were about 20 m away. Owner of lion wrote, the whippets beat the man to the end of the road but not by much.
IIRC Sheeba eventually turned on its owner and had to be shot.
So in my experience, not a bright idea to keep big cats. And having more than 1% of all remaining Bengal tigers shot in one night is a tragedy.
http://www.martinsbank.co.uk/Bring%20an%20Elephant.htm
About two thirds down the page, you can see Ranee - a tigress - visiting the local bank. A cousin of mine worked for a newspaper in Newcastle upon Tyne and was more than a little surprised to be visited by a fully grown leopard with guess who following!
Stabilator From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 489 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 643 times:
There is a rather gruesome image I came across on reddit.com of all the dead animals lined up. I'll refrain from posting it directly because I don't feel like being banned. Really sad, but necessary in my opinion.
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desertjets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7677 posts, RR: 18 Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 632 times:
On some articles that I read there were a lot of comments decrying the police for killing these animals and not tranqing them instead. But I really feel that people fail the understand what was going on, with a few dozen wild cats and bears on the loose in the night. It was a bad situation compounded by bad weather and a lack of resources to capture the animals. And I certainly believe that none of the sheriff's deputies or state troopers are too proud that they had to do this and to go home to their families telling them they killed an extremely rare animal.
Hopefully the remaining states in the US that allow for exotic animals to be kept outside of zoos will very quickly ban that, because this was a very very bad situation.
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rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6191 posts, RR: 25 Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 626 times:
Quoting Baroque (Reply 10): And having more than 1% of all remaining Bengal tigers shot in one night is a tragedy.
It wasn't 1% of all remaining Bengal tigers.
While there are estimate to be less than 2,500 Bengal tigers in the wild, there are many more in captivity.
There are almost 400 in zoos in India, and many more around the world.
In the US before this incident there were a reliably estimated tiger population of over 4,500 tigers, most Bengals or largely Bengal blood lines. There are over 2,800 well documented tigers in the US. Captive breeding programs in China in recent years has pushed their captive tiger population over 4,000.
There are 19 Bengals or Bengal mixes living within 7 miles of my home, along with 4 Siberians, 10 lions, 12 cougars (mountain lion), 2 leopards, several bobcats, lynx and servals - at a place which does it right - http://www.insyncexotics.org/index.html
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