comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4861 posts, RR: 16 Posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1825 times:
I'm off JFK-DXB on a long haul flight, and have to walk off the plane into a customer meeting. I want to look as fresh as an FA - what are your secrets? How do you take care of puffy and bloodshot eyes?
jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7366 posts, RR: 51 Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1792 times:
Well, for you?
1. Ambien, to knock you out during the flight.
2. Clear Eyes or Systene unmedicated eye drops.
3. Remove contact lenses if you where any, clean your teeth and shave prior to landing.
4. And lastly, drink lots of caffeine.
lh526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2297 posts, RR: 15 Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1780 times:
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Flying C or M? Off course get ut of your suit and change your shirt for a poloshirt or tshirt for sleep. Get a good nights sleep and that should have you all set. Before landing treat yourself to a facial wash and some face-moisturizer.
Your eyes should be no big issue if you catch enough sleep.
Little caffein, little alcohol!
Trittst im Morgenrot daher, seh ich dich im Strahlenmeer ...
ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12687 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1774 times:
Bring with you a 'no-iron' shirt, carefully pack your suit and tie as well as have a clean pair of socks and dress shoes.
Shower/bathe as close as possible to when have to leave for the airport. Make sure you have a comb/brush for your hair, maybe some hair mousse to keep your hair neat from 'bed head'. Get a good long nights sleep the night before.
Maybe at the destination airport they have a 'clean up' lounge where you could take a shower, clean up. May be part of your fare or at a modest price.
Drink water. Maybe wear a 'gel' eyemask to reduce around the eye puffyness
ManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 2995 posts, RR: 49 Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
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Quoting comorin (Reply 4): The major things I want to avoid are puffy face and eyes.
Don't worry, the puffy face and eyes are what you usually feel. Others don't notice. I feel miserable after a night flight (say, from JFK to ZRH), but when I meet people right after arriving home, they're surprised when I tell them I just got off the plane.
Make sure your suit is well packed, and use the airport shower when you arrive.
comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4861 posts, RR: 16 Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1680 times:
Quoting ManuCH (Reply 5): Don't worry, the puffy face and eyes are what you usually feel. Others don't notice. I feel miserable after a night flight (say, from JFK to ZRH), but when I meet people right after arriving home, they're surprised when I tell them I just got off the plane.
Make sure your suit is well packed, and use the airport shower when you arrive.
Thank you, that's reassuring! I'll see if I can get a shower at DXB arrivals - the steam could also help freshen the suit...
I'll also use some kind of moisturizer during the flight if it helps.
It's odd, but I feel more alert after a ULH Y flight than a C class lie-flat flight - maybe there is such a thing as being too comfortable!
aa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 58 Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1669 times:
Change clothes when you land. Another issue is your hair, after a long haul hair can be matted and a little oily. We use face wipes when we travel long haul, it usually makes us look a little fresher. Also bring mouthwash, toothpaste etc.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10502 posts, RR: 38 Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1559 times:
I am just off a Dubai-Frankfurt Lufthansa flight a 747-400. The service upstaris in F left a lot to be desired. A true disgrace. I boarded the flight with a bad bronchitis caught in Dubai because of very cold air conditioning and burning hot weather outside. Happens to me every time.
I slept through the flight - the FAs did nothing special to accomodate the passengers, not the first time I see this in the upstairs cabin. Anyway I got off the flight, walked to the FCT and the first thing I did was a foam bath followed by breakfast. Now having some tea and waiting for the F1 race in this beauitul lounge.
Just the fact that I am here and I am feeling better!
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
Quokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1511 times:
I am not sure if they still do it but EK used to provide to passengers in Y hot towels to refresh, once shortly after take-off and once before landing, and they also used to have moist towelettes that came with the meal services.
EK also used to provide a small amenity kit in Y that included a collapsible toothbrush with a small tube of paste, along with the eye-shades and socks. Again, I don't know if this has been a victim of cost cutting.
Perhaps someone from EK could confirm whether this is still the case.
aa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 58 Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1442 times:
Quoting Quokka (Reply 10): EK also used to provide a small amenity kit in Y that included a collapsible toothbrush with a small tube of paste, along with the eye-shades and socks. Again, I don't know if this has been a victim of cost cutting.
I flew LHR-DXB last month in Y, didn't get a kit. It was on the A380 too, perhaps the flight time was not long enough? 7 hrs.
First off, great you're finally leaving Hope you'll enjoy your time in the sandpit.
Second, this young lady's and EK f/a blog provides plenty of tips to fight jetlag and other strains of ULH travel. The particular link is not all the blog features, I'm sure if you search for related keywords you'll come across more.
A last tip (if it isn't too late for that). Try to book an aisle middle row seat to enhance your chances of having a free seat next to you. Middle-row middle seats are the most dreaded and therefore are most likely to remain empty.
Cadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1468 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1374 times:
In December, I'm going to be travelling JFK-TLV for a friend's wedding. Now in all my travels (which granted, are nothing compared to some of you) I have never taken a suit with me. Should I just pack it very carefully, or invest in a garment/suit bag to pack the suit in, in the suitcase? I'm leaning toward getting a garment/suit bag. Before answering, I'm going to be in Israel from December 12 until at least some point in January, so I'm going to have two suitcases with me most likely.
Quoting something (Reply 13): A last tip (if it isn't too late for that). Try to book an aisle middle row seat to enhance your chances of having a free seat next to you. Middle-row middle seats are the most dreaded and therefore are most likely to remain empty.
I could not agree more with this. My last flight home from Israel (over 12 hours), I wanted a window seat. I paid for it big time. The people sitting next to me slept the ENTIRE flight. When we landed at EWR I had to make a mad dash for the mens room. To this day, I'm sure the Hudson River rose a couple inches. When I told my doctor about this after the trip, he just laughed and told me I was an idiot, lol.
Hey, Cadet, I'm an old hand at this stuff and my one piece of advice to the next generation is - hard-sided suitcases! Your suits will look their best if packed in a suitcase that is reasonably rigid. Pack it with the plastic cover you get from the cleaners, and don't stuff your suitcase too tight. Carry as little on board as possible. In this day and age of security, your bags will arrive intact and on time. In forty years of travel, I have had my suitcase late only once, because of a blizzard at LHR. Remember cool folks walk around Departures carrying nothing. Don't show up like you are on an expedition to discover the Zambezi
RGElectra80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 359 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1310 times:
Quoting comorin (Reply 15):
I will be on the A388 flight leaving JFK at 2300 hrs, arriving in DXB at 19:45. I have not done the 77W flight but I will say that the 388 is very quiet.
I've done this very flight before, you'll be fine. In my experience, it's once you stop the hustle that you start getting tired/cranky/disoriented. Considering if the flight is on time, you'll have few, if any gaps, to stop and get tired.
Feel free to check out my Flight Diary: flightdiary.net/alenart
Cadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1468 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1291 times:
Quoting Quokka (Reply 16): Real cool folk from the A.net community only carry a camera so that they can post a trip report
Well, at the bare minimum, I'll have my laptop, Kindle, noise cancelling headlhones (if I can save up the cash), and medications. Not a good idea to check any of those. And taking pics on an El Al flight...I've never done that, but I can't imagine they'd be too happy with that idea.
What I was thinking of for my suit was getting something like this http://www.menswearhouse.com/webapp/...204216_-1__Base_10051_?cm_vc=10678 . Is that a good idea, or a waste of $3.00? I mean I'm getting out there 2 weeks before the wedding to help fulfill some of my dutues as best man (like actual, religious duties), so I suppose I could find a dry cleaner out there and get it pressed, but I may do that anyway.
Quokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1281 times:
Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 18): And taking pics on an El Al flight...I've never done that, but I can't imagine they'd be too happy with that idea.
EL-AL (aka Jonathan) has previously published trip reports featuring his namesake on the ground and in flight, so you may be fine taking photos. He was also able to include photos of TLV.
Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 18): What I was thinking of for my suit was getting something like this
I don't know how much space El Al have for hanging garments or in what class you are planning on travelling but that sort of thing will certainly protect the suit and minimise creasing once you place it in a suitcase as Comorin suggests.
ozglobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2684 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1113 times:
I have done CDG-LHR-SIN-MEL 3 times a year for the last 10 years (30 trips, mainly in J). I have also done 15 Round the world trips. Coming from Australia, travelling internationally at all normally means more than 8 hrs. Long haul for us is Oz-LAX or Oz-SIN-LHR/FRA for example. Transatlantic therefore seems more like medium range.
I have worked hard at improving my travel experience and arriving in good shape. Here are some of my secrets:
Jetlag is a combination primarily of 3 distinct problemes:
- Above all - Dehydration
- Time zone shift / lack of biological clock synchronizaiton with destination
- Sleep deprivation
Manage your hydration. You cannot drink enough water to do this on a long haul flight. The ambient humidity is often less than 5% and you are loosing water faster than you can replace. This is improved in the A380 and 787 through systems to increase pressure and/or moisture in the cabin air. Take oral re-hydration salts in water as you would for a case of gastro. Above all, start BEFORE you board the aircraft and CONTINUE every 4-6 hours. This will make the single biggest difference for you.
Time zone shift. Plan backward from your arrival time. If you arrive in the morning, take one Melatonin 7-8hrs before hand on the flight and if at all possible sleep naturally in the following hours until arrival. If arriving in the evening work back 24hrs and take the Melatonin then (eg. start of a SYD-SIN-LHR trip with evening arrival in LHR) and try to sleep at the start of this 24hr trip.
If in Y, try to find a next support that allows you to sleep. Some Y seats have wings to support your head, otherwise you will need a chiropractor on arrival.
Obviously, a fully flat seat in J makes all the difference in this department and I spend a lot of my personl income on them given the personal travel I do between Europe and Australia.
In Australia there was a product call Flight Revive which gave a 6hour rehydration dose per sachet, but it seems now to be off the market. Normal electrolytic salt work the same but you have to take them more frequently.
Take fibre for digestion and avoid heavy meals and red meat as your digestion will be out of its cycle until the Melatonin and local sunlight start to kick-in.
There. Bon voyage.
When all's said and done, there'll be more said than done.
n229nw From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1884 posts, RR: 34 Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1083 times:
Quoting comorin (Reply 15): Carry as little on board as possible. In this day and age of security, your bags will arrive intact and on time. In forty years of travel, I have had my suitcase late only once, because of a blizzard at LHR.
Well, I've had the opposite experience. I take more carry on these days, since a few years ago, over the course of only three years, flying about 10 times a year, I had checked bags that were:
1.) Totally lost by the airline and never found. Was reimbursed the maximum amount, but it was extremely inconvenient because I had to live without my important stuff in the three weeks before they admitted they couldn't find it. I still suspect this bag was stolen by an airline employee.
2.) Checked in at LHR for a flight that was then cancelled. Somehow BA lost my bag between checking it in and offloading the bags at LHR without even going anywhere. Got the bag back a week later, in New York (en route to LAX), having not had my stuff in the interim traveling (vouchers only get you so far).
3.) The next day checked the bag to LAX on AA, AA lost the bag too and I got it back two days late.
4.) Flew for job interview, bag did not make tight connection in AMS. Luckily, I had learned to put important stuff in carry on by then.
5.) two other cases where my bag was delayed and had to be delivered to me.
These days I am pretty careful not to check in anything I might really need or really don't want to lose if I can avoid it.
Anyway, I agree that hydration is the most important thing for me. I don't really seem to get any jet lag in general, which is nice, but I do get sleep deprived. Watch out, melatonin works for some people but not for others. It doesn't put me to sleep at all, in fact the three times I've tried it I had about the worst insomnia ever. Ambien on the other hand...that's some good &^%...