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Latino Voters: Obama Leads Going Into 2012  
User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

Not good news for all those who had sworn that O had lost considerable Latino support...


Latino Voters: Obama Leads Going Into 2012, GOP Faces Backlash On Immigration

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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama still holds significant leads among likely Latino voters over Republican candidates for the 2012 election, partially because most Latinos don't know or don't like the GOP field, according to a Univision-Latino Decisions poll released Tuesday.

The Republican candidates have little name recognition among Latino voters, with a majority of those voters saying they had never heard of frontrunner Herman Cain. (Granted, this poll was taken between Oct. 21 and Nov. 1 -- and the first story reporting sexual harassment claims against Cain came out Oct. 31.)

Rick Perry has the highest name recognition but also the highest negative ratings, despite being hammered for some pro-immigrant policies that he pursued as governor of Texas. The poll found that about 22 percent of likely Latino voters hold low opinions of Perry.

There had been some speculation that Perry's support of a law that allowed undocumented young people to attend Texas state colleges at in-state tuition rates, provided they had completed three years of high school in the United States, could help him attract more Latino voters than other GOP candidates. But the poll results debunked that theory.



..it was pretty clear to me. And then there was the talk of Marco Rubio, now an embarrassment to himself and exposed as a fraud with his jacked up 'I'm a Cuban Refugee' story...

I really don't think the brainstorm Herman Cain electric fence idea (if you can call that an idea), I instantly thought of Jörg Haider when Cain came up with that gem...very antagonizing to the Latino community and it should have offensive to any decent American or human being.

BN747


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User currently offlinedreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8709 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

Quoting BN747 (Thread starter):
There had been some speculation that Perry's support of a law that allowed undocumented young people to attend Texas state colleges at in-state tuition rates, provided they had completed three years of high school in the United States, could help him attract more Latino voters than other GOP candidates. But the poll results debunked that theory.

As they say, no good deed goes unpunished.

Quoting BN747 (Thread starter):

I really don't think the brainstorm Herman Cain electric fence idea (if you can call that an idea), I instantly thought of Jörg Haider when Cain came up with that gem...very antagonizing to the Latino community and it should have offensive to any decent American or human being.

So I suppose you would not approve of my idea of stocking the Rio Grande with Piranhas...



Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos
User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5940 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2093 times:
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Latin Americans in the US don´t read the newspapers, obviously, because if they did the would know:

1) They fare better with Republicans in the Presidency
2) Never in the history of the US have so many people been deported in one administration as it´s happened during the Obama one.

Hardly conducive IF THEY KNEW THE FACTS, to vote for another Obama administration.



MGGS
User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6545 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2083 times:
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Quoting AR385 (Reply 2):

Hardly conducive IF THEY KNEW THE FACTS, to vote for another Obama administration.

If those were the facts, then Dreadnought would be supporting Obama...

Facts? Its all about perception..



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5940 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2038 times:
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Quoting mt99 (Reply 3):
Facts? Its all about perception..

I will concede that my first point may be about perception. However, most left and right wing analysts in Latin America-US relations agree on that point. Remember it was Bush (as many faults as he may have on other fronts), who was for some sort of amnesty for illegals, for example.

My second point is a fact.



MGGS
User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 4):
emember it was Bush (as many faults as he may have on other fronts), who was for some sort of amnesty for illegals, for example.

Carter did it before Bush...

I think many people are aware that Obama wants to do this as well, but in this political climate .. I'd be instant suicide. So he'll most likely do it in his 1st year of his next term. The Repubs will raise holy hell all the way til 2016 which will costly them the latino vote...again.

BN747



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6994 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 2):
2) Never in the history of the US have so many people been deported in one administration as it´s happened during the Obama one.

True, however unless you committed of a crime you do not have much to worry about. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/...s-drop-in-immigration-enforcement/ Of course criminals have to be the first to go, but actual immigration control has not been up. These are people who have been arrested for crimes.
Quoting BN747 (Thread starter):
The Republican candidates have little name recognition among Latino voters, with a majority of those voters saying they had never heard of frontrunner Herman Cain.
Quoting BN747 (Thread starter):
Univision-Latino

See the two. The Hispanic media does not follow much of the GOP. Hispanic media is a joke. Probably more basis than MSNBC, Watching the NBC debate now their basis is ridiculous with the questions they ask.



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 6):
The Hispanic media does not follow much of the GOP

You couldn't be more wrong.. watch Telemundo's En Contexto or 11'O'Clock news broadcast tonite and each night this week .. GOPstories it will be lead or close to it and it's coverage is far more in depth than any US msm broadcast. There is constant commentary before, during and after all debates. Joe , AZ Immigration activity (and now Alabama) are featured almost nightly - and not in a good way. I'm no big watcher of Univision, but Telemundo has done a laser like effective job of targeting the GOP as enemy of latino causes. I've pointed this out in the debate threads.. if the GOP wants to win back any sizeable Latino support, they'll have to pander big and get Telemundo or Univision to hammer on their 'pandering act' nighly for about 6 months for it to stick - because since the GOP campaign launch..that's what's been happening over Hispanic media. When the crowd cheered Cain's electric fence stupidity...and the crowd cheered.. it was played over and over again and trashed by Telemundo and invited commentators...I don't think many GOP strategist are realizing how damaging these broadcast have been nor realize the implications.

Quoting flymia (Reply 6):
Hispanic media is a joke.

And GOP is treating it as such and it is costing them big while they're completely unaware what is occurring.

Were I a GOP strategist...I'd be 'off the charts alarmed' and drilling inroads right now to try and undo the damage that has been done. And I'm sure some latino GOP strategist is doing this at this very moment .. but they have him or her on 'mute'..

BN747



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2664 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

The GOP can always count on the vote of the Cubans in Florida since the GOP takes a harsh stance against Cuba. Kinda interesting seeing the double standard there, where they are not willing to give Mexicans a path to citizenship, but all Cubans are more than welcome to join their ranks.

It's also a fact that Hispanics tend to vote Democrat. If PR is made a state, you can bet that it will almost always vote for the Democrat candidate.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32173 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Who cares? Most Latins don't vote, and the only place where the Latin vote matters - Florida (some might say New Mexico, too) - has a Latino community that sways heavily conservative. And I don't think it's much of a coincidence that the conservative-leaning Florida Latino community also is more educated and better off than other Latino communities.

The election won't be decided by women, the middle class, Latinos or any other group.

It will be decided by eight states - Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Nevada, Colorado and Pennsylvania.

[Edited 2011-11-09 20:42:18]


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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7257 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 8):
Kinda interesting seeing the double standard there, where they are not willing to ____________________, but all _______ are more than welcome to join their ranks.

Just fill in the blanks and you have so many groups for both parties. It sickens me how bad politics is getting (or at least how much more I'm noticing it!)



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5940 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1951 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
Who cares? Most Latins don't vote, and the only place where the Latin vote matters

Wrong. They vote. At least the legals do. That was the reason why the law changed in 96 or 97 here in Mexico to allow double nationality. That was so all the legal residents we have in the US, could get American citizenship and vote. Many had not become American because that would have meant they would loose their Mexican citizenship.



MGGS
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32173 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 8):
The GOP can always count on the vote of the Cubans in Florida since the GOP takes a harsh stance against Cuba. Kinda interesting seeing the double standard there, where they are not willing to give Mexicans a path to citizenship, but all Cubans are more than welcome to join their ranks.

There is no double standard. Conservatives have zero issues with legal immigration. The United States offers a path of legal immigration to Mexican citizens who wish to move here. Conservatives don't oppose that whatsoever. Some even argue it should be made easier, myself included. Cuba is a special case where people are literally trapped in their home country, so an exception is made.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32173 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 11):

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
Who cares? Most Latins don't vote, and the only place where the Latin vote matters

Wrong. They vote. At least the legals do. That was the reason why the law changed in 96 or 97 here in Mexico to allow double nationality. That was so all the legal residents we have in the US, could get American citizenship and vote. Many had not become American because that would have meant they would loose their Mexican citizenship.


MGGS

In 2010, a measly 30% of Latinos voted in this country. Despite making up more than 16% of the population, only 10% are registered and even fewer actually vote.

As I said, they don't vote.

Not that it's a problem exclusive to Latinos - low voter participation is a problem among all groups of people in this country, but especially prevalent among Latinos.

[Edited 2011-11-09 20:51:33]


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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5940 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1933 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
As I said, they don't vote.

It´s a matter of perspective. 30% of 16% of a population that is growing very fast, with parties courting them, and with policies in certain regions being tailored for them as well as growth coming more now out of US births than of immigration is pretty significant.



MGGS
User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2664 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
Cuba is a special case where people are literally trapped in their home country, so an exception is made.

It's still illegal immigration. You can't give special treatment to one group.



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 2):
2) Never in the history of the US have so many people been deported in one administration as it´s happened during the Obama one

According to an Immigration Attorney (one of the best in SoCal) friend of mine..a good deal of the deportation cases were started under the Bush Admin, one he is handling now (it is a friend's partner - she has a deportation case on the dockets) has been in the process for 4 years now - he's confident he'll win her case.. but he had hope under Obama judges and ICE would throttle back on the lever..but no, the Bush initiated aggressive/accelerated deportation posture has been maintained in full force for whatever reason.


Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):

In 2010, a measly 30% of Latinos voted in this country. Despite making up more than 16% of the population, only 10% are registered and even fewer actually vote.

As I said, they don't vote.

You must not be aware of the state of California... few blacks, and you must think only the whites vote here...

BN747



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5952 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
Who cares? Most Latins don't vote, and the only place where the Latin vote matters - Florida (some might say New Mexico, too) - has a Latino community that sways heavily conservative.

I've heard that about Cubans, but not about the rest of Florida's Latino community.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
Cuba is a special case where people are literally trapped in their home country, so an exception is made.

REALLY???? That's the explanation? Well, what about Haiti? And besides, this "special case" needs to change. But, I know it won't, because Florida is a swing state.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32173 posts, RR: 72
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
You must not be aware of the state of California... few blacks, and you must think only the whites vote here...

I'm fully aware of California. An individual's vote in California - a state that always votes with the ignorant party - doesn't matter. Hence, the Hispanic vote in California doesn't matter. Maybe one day NorCal and LA County will smarten up and vote red like the rest of Cali, but that's far off.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 17):
I've heard that about Cubans, but not about the rest of Florida's Latino community.

Cubans represent the bulk of the community. And while Puerto Ricans and Mexicans do lean left, South Americans, like Cubans, lean right. After all, many of them came to Florida to escape leftist governments.



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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6658 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1802 times:

Latinos are falling into the same trap as ALL Americans: they're becoming lazy and wallowing at the trough, demanding more government, more largesse, more pork, instead of demanding honest, smaller and limited government.

I don't see this as a demographic problem as much as I see it as a FAR larger issue: that being that we may be reaching the point where keeping our republic is impossible because of our own electorate who doesn't frankly give a shit about sustaining and restoring the greatest country the world has ever seen.


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1781 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 18):
Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
You must not be aware of the state of California... few blacks, and you must think only the whites vote here...

I'm fully aware of California. An individual's vote in California - a state that always votes with the ignorant party - doesn't matter. Hence, the Hispanic vote in California doesn't matter. Maybe one day NorCal and LA County will smarten up and vote red like the rest of Cali, but that's far off.

              

yeah, whatever dude...

Quoting slider (Reply 19):
Latinos are falling into the same trap as ALL Americans: they're becoming lazy and wallowing at the trough, demanding more government, more largesse, more pork, instead of demanding honest, smaller and limited government.

And please enlighten us on 'how all americans' ended up like that...


BN747



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6994 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 17):
REALLY???? That's the explanation? Well, what about Haiti? And besides, this "special case" needs to change. But, I know it won't, because Florida is a swing state.


As long as Cuba is a communist nation. (changes are coming) And as long as the Dept of State list it as a supporter of terrorism it is not going to change, no.

Quoting slider (Reply 19):
Latinos are falling into the same trap as ALL Americans: they're becoming lazy and wallowing at the trough, demanding more government, more largesse, more pork, instead of demanding honest, smaller and limited government.

I agree. You see this often with the new Cubans who come to the US. They are very used to a communist government, they did not have to work much and honestly many of them are just lazy. Really can't blame them that is how life is there. Well many of the newer Cuban immigrants do vote democrat, more wellfare and also democrats are probably more likely to lift the embargo when the time comes.



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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6658 posts, RR: 35
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 20):
And please enlighten us on 'how all americans' ended up like that...

Simple: unprecedented prosperity following WWII that has created the most complacent, materially wealthy, spoiled citizenry in the history of the world. We have it easy. We have a technologically advanced society, modern medicine, information technology that literally has made the world smaller, an unfettered access to education, travel and prosperity yet we are completely retarded and DUMBER than ever before. Never before have so many had so much and not had a true gratitude for where it came from, an appreciation for the values that built the very country we now take for granted.

it's a universal American sickness that has repeated itself throughout history...and once again we ignore history at our own peril. Juvenal was dead on in his understanding of the human condition commenting on 'panem et cricenses'....

And in more simpler terms, the number of producers is being outnumbered by the takers. Whether it's the ridiculous insanity of the Occupy movement or just normal people on the dole, we can't afford the largesse of a runaway government any longer. WE CANNOT DO IT. And yet Americans aren't all waking up to this reality. They prefer the security of shackles to the risk of operating without a net. And it's a damn shame. I know this is a blanket statement, but I'm beginning to take a more cynical view of my fellow Americans by the day.

Quoting flymia (Reply 21):
I agree. You see this often with the new Cubans who come to the US. They are very used to a communist government, they did not have to work much and honestly many of them are just lazy. Really can't blame them that is how life is there. Well many of the newer Cuban immigrants do vote democrat, more wellfare and also democrats are probably more likely to lift the embargo when the time comes.

Well, I know very few Cubanos, so I can't comment and try to avoid MIA in general as much as I can, but I can tell you that Eastern Europeans--the ones who escaped the Communist USSR iron curtain, are the people who GET IT more than my own native born Americans. They appreciate and love America and the ideals and work their asses off more than the spoiled infants who take that freedom for granted.

Latinos--they better figure it out too and open their own eyes and vote accordingly.


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6476 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
The United States offers a path of legal immigration to Mexican citizens who wish to move here.

A path that is almost impossible to navigate for most Mexicans who are extremely poor.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 18):
Cubans represent the bulk of the community.

Cuban's represent only 1/3rd of Florida's Hispanic community and going forward they will represent even less as other groups are growing much faster.

Quoting slider (Reply 22):
They prefer the security of shackles to the risk of operating without a net.

Hardly true. Most American's simply recognize that basic safety nets are a necessity to prevent the country from plunging into depression every time the economy has a hiccup.

Quoting slider (Reply 22):
And yet Americans aren't all waking up to this reality.

I think most American's are well aware of this reality, but it's all in how you make the cuts.


User currently offlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3389 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
So he'll most likely do it in his 1st year of his next term.

He still needs the cooperation of Congress. That will not happen. I for one think a split government is a good thing. Enough so, I will probably vote for Obama and pray for a Republican Senate and Congress.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
It will be decided by eight states - Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Nevada, Colorado and Pennsylvania.

Yep. Of those, only Florida and Nevada have a significant Hispanic population.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 11):
Wrong. They vote. At least the legals do.

Problem is, so do some of the illegals.

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15):
It's still illegal immigration. You can't give special treatment to one group.

Of course we can. Why not? We do all the time. They come from a repressive society who's citizens we give special status to because of their government. Mexico is a different story.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
You must not be aware of the state of California... few blacks, and you must think only the whites vote here...

And you know that California votes one way and one way only in federal elections. Latino pandering or not, it doesn't matter.


25 AR385 : Right you are, but that is not their problem. They are either coerced and manipulated by radical left-wing groups with their own agendas or (I believ
26 AvObserver : An electric border fence would be wildly impractical but what is offensive about it? Nobody would touch it if they knew it was electrified so who wou
27 Post contains images BN747 : I must agree with this general assumption, however it's a pretty wide net to cast on all Americans. I understand exactly what you mean, but not all A
28 slider : True--and for the sake of brevity, I did paint with a (too) broad brush there. I understand your breakdown, but wouldn't just bucket it in those econ
29 Post contains links AvObserver : As I said, nobody would touch it if they knew it was lethal. And if they did, too bad. Instead of misdirecting compassion to the hordes of interloper
30 BN747 : Gangs are not new to America because of Latino influence, what do you think Meyer Lansky, Al Capone, Lucky Luciano, the Gambino family, Jesse James,
31 jcs17 : Yep, the KKK and the Italian mob were all about carjackings, assault, and murder. The KKK was about racism -- and never reared its ugly head in major
32 cws818 : I, personally, as a resident of Los Angeles, am glad to hear it. We don't need any additional traffic. Thank you in advance for holding on to your ri
33 Post contains images BN747 : Hmmm someone failed History or never saw Birth of A Nation or its after effects, after that movie was released and President Woodrow Wilson upon view
34 AvObserver : Foreign gangs from Central America and drug gangs from Mexico add mightily to the indigenous gangs already here. Haven't you been following the steep
35 slider : Dont' forget "La Raza"....
36 Post contains links AvObserver : Of course, the National Council Of LaRaza ("The Race") also advocates the downfall of us "gringos" but more subtly than the avowed Reconquista crowd.
37 jcs17 : LA is the only place I've ever been that has to put barbed wire on their elevated freeway signs to keep people from tagging them. I think there might
38 BN747 : The foreign latino gangs that here are quite limited if registering on the radar at all. Local latino gangs aren't going to tolerate Salvis or any ot
39 ual777 : The primary component fueling the drug war in Mexico is not drug demand from the US, but the systematic corruption that is engrained in Mexico. The a
40 AR385 : I have tried to avoid entering this thread as it is the usual one we get once in a while that mixes Xenophobism, racism and the usual crap. However,
41 Post contains links AvObserver : Latino gangs, fueled largely by an exploding Latino populace in large measure illegal conduct ethnic cleansing against blacks in L.A. http://www.stre
42 Post contains images BN747 : Mexican's haven't beheaded people since the days of the Aztecs! The appalling violence occurring now is nothing more than machismo bravado gone amok
43 AR385 : I hate Calderón. I hate his party. But there are things he has done in which I have to tip my hat. His government has been the least corrupt of the
44 Post contains links BN747 : You really think there's some box you check on your return to disclose whether or not 'you engaged in underage sex' while in Mexico upon re-entry int
45 Post contains links AvObserver : This is sheer speculation based on NOTHING but your own extrapolations. And I'm angry about ANY minors being raped or molested, no matter who does it
46 windy95 : Sorry but you are still the one who continues with the reverse racism. It seems everyone is a bigot or racist but you. You continue to divide everyon
47 BN747 : Watch the tone there fella, the Mods don't tolerate adults acting like 6 year olds telling others to shut up. Our own best kept stats don't begin to
48 ual777 : Thats because the majority are from those countries. Illegal is illegal. I don't care if they are white, brown, black, or whatever.
49 Post contains links AvObserver : I'm fine with brown Americans as long as they come in legally and conform to our society without expecting us to conform to theirs. English is the la
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