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Formula 1 2011: Brazilian GP Interlagos  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10925 posts, RR: 37
Posted (3 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Here's to the last race of the 2011 season

Autódromo José Carlos Pace, Interlagos, Interlagos, São Paulo
Total laps 71
Lap distance 4.309 km
Track Conditions Dry / 38C
Weather Sunny

Free practice 1 November 25 - 10:00 local | 12:00 GMT | 13:00 CET
Free practice 2 November 25 - 14:00 local | 16:00 GMT | 17:00 CET
Free practice 3 November 26 - 11:00 local | 13:00 GMT | 14:00 CET
Qualifying November 26 - 14:00 local | 16:00 GMT | 17:00 CET
Race November 27 - 14:00 local | 16:00 GMT | 17:00 CET

The main players

Felipe Massa said that he is targeting his first podium finish of the season at his home grand prix at Interlagos.
(me thinks he better wake up it's now or never at least in 2011)

Lewis Hamilton says he has built up a lot of "positive energy" since his victory in Abu Dhabi two weeks ago and he is hoping to carry that over to 2012.
(i don't think he will win this time but the end result might prove me wrong)

Jenson Button said that he is "happy" with what he has achieved in 2011, saying it is been "a pretty strong year".

Rubens Barrichello insists he will not approach this weekend's Brazilian Grand Prix as if it is his last, despite uncertainty over his future.
(good old Rubens... I hope he will still be racing next year)

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo has issued a warning to Felipe Massa that "he'll have to prove himself next season".
(I think he is right)

McLaren has paid tribute to its test and reserve driver Pedro de la Rosa as he prepares to join HRT for 2012.
(Pedro is wonderful... McLaren will certainly miss him... I look forward to seeing him racing again next season... one more driver for me to cheer!!)

Practice 1 is on.

Alonso had an engine failure!!

Will post P1 results when they're done.


              

P1

1 Webber AUS Red Bull 1'13.811
2 Button GBR McLaren 1'13.825
3 Hamilton GBR McLaren 1'13.961
4 Vettel GER Red Bull 1'14.025
5 Massa BRA Ferrari 1'14.507
6 Alonso ESP Ferrari 1'14.541
7 Schumacher GER Mercedes-Benz 1'15.162
8 Hülkenberg GER Force India 1'15.178
9 di Resta GBR Force India 1'15.241
10 Rosberg GER Mercedes-Benz 1'15.321
11 Alguersuari ESP Toro Rosso 1'15.468
12 Grosjean FRA Renault 1'15.547
13 Barrichello BRA Williams 1'15.663
14 Senna BRA Renault 1'15.732
15 Kobayashi JPN Sauber 1'15.747
16 Maldonado VEN Williams 1'15.836
17 Perez MEX Sauber 1'15.979
18 Vergne FRA Toro Rosso 1'16.052
19 Kovalainen FIN Lotus 1'16.514
20 Razia BRA Lotus 1'17.595
21 Glock GER Virgin 1'18.140
22 d'Ambrosio BEL Virgin 1'18.653
23 Ricciardo AUS HRT 1'18.952
24 Charouz CZE HRT 1'19.577

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[Edited 2011-11-25 05:37:28]


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

Hammy reigned supremo in this second practice session with Seb second best timing. Schumi did a really good timing with 5th best of the lot.

P2 results

1 Lewis Hamilton GBR 3 McLaren 1'13.392 35 in pits
2 Sebastian Vettel GER 1 Red Bull 1'13.559 41 in pits
3 Mark Webber AUS 2 Red Bull 1'13.587 41 in pits
4 Fernando Alonso ESP 5 Ferrari 1'13.598 35 in pits
5 Michael Schumacher GER 7 Mercedes-Benz 1'13.723 38 in pits
6 Felipe Massa BRA 6 Ferrari 1'13.750 39 in pits
7 Jenson Button GBR 4 McLaren 1'13.787 36 in pits
8 Nico Rosberg GER 8 Mercedes-Benz 1'13.872 42 in pits
9 Adrian Sutil GER 14 Force India 1'14.144 41 in pits
10 Paul di Resta GBR 15 Force India 1'14.807 48 in pits
11 Vitaly Petrov RUS 10 Renault 1'14.856 38 in pits
12 Bruno Senna BRA 9 Renault 1'14.931 37 in pits
13 Sergio Perez MEX 17 Sauber 1'14.970 32 in pits
14 Kamui Kobayashi JPN 16 Sauber 1'15.019 45 in pits
15 Sébastien Buemi SUI 18 Toro Rosso 1'15.264 44 in pits
16 Jaime Alguersuari ESP 19 Toro Rosso 1'15.388 41 in pits
17 Pastor Maldonado VEN 12 Williams 1'15.679 43 in pits
18 Rubens Barrichello BRA 11 Williams 1'15.903 40 in pits
19 Jarno Trulli ITA 21 Lotus 1'16.298 36 in pits
20 Heikki Kovalainen FIN 20 Lotus 1'16.338 48 in pits
21 Jérôme d'Ambrosio BEL 25 Virgin 1'18.031 39 in pits
22 Timo Glock GER 24 Virgin 1'18.051 45 in pits
23 Daniel Ricciardo AUS 23 HRT 1'18.367 42 in pits
24 Tonio Liuzzi ITA 23 HRT 1'18.476 42 in pits

Rendez-vous tomorrow Saturday for P3 and Qualifyings.

  



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

Free practice 3

Sebastian Vettel sets the fastest time in third practice for the Brazilian Grand Prix.

P3 results

1 Sebastian Vettel GER 1 Red Bull 1'12.460 21 in pits
2 Jenson Button GBR 4 McLaren 1'12.547 19 in pits
3 Mark Webber AUS 2 Red Bull 1'12.597 21 in pits
4 Lewis Hamilton GBR 3 McLaren 1'12.622 15 in pits
5 Fernando Alonso ESP 5 Ferrari 1'12.765 17 in pits
6 Adrian Sutil GER 14 Force India 1'13.113 22 in pits
7 Nico Rosberg GER 8 Mercedes-Benz 1'13.286 21 in pits
8 Michael Schumacher GER 7 Mercedes-Benz 1'13.393 19 in pits
9 Paul di Resta GBR 15 Force India 1'13.419 19 in pits
10 Felipe Massa BRA 6 Ferrari 1'13.583 18 in pits
11 Vitaly Petrov RUS 10 Renault 1'13.838 20 in pits
12 Rubens Barrichello BRA 11 Williams 1'14.283 19 in pits
13 Jaime Alguersuari ESP 19 Toro Rosso 1'14.286 20 in pits
14 Kamui Kobayashi JPN 16 Sauber 1'14.311 24 in pits
15 Pastor Maldonado VEN 12 Williams 1'14.454 22 in pits
16 Sergio Perez MEX 17 Sauber 1'14.547 24 in pits
17 Bruno Senna BRA 9 Renault 1'14.551 15 in pits
18 Jarno Trulli ITA 21 Lotus 1'15.853 24 in pits
19 Heikki Kovalainen FIN 20 Lotus 1'16.026 22 in pits
20 Jérôme d'Ambrosio BEL 25 Virgin 1'16.616 26 in pits
21 Tonio Liuzzi ITA 23 HRT 1'17.143 23 in pits
22 Daniel Ricciardo AUS 23 HRT 1'17.296 23 in pits
23 Timo Glock GER 24 Virgin 1'17.984 23 in pits
24 Sébastien Buemi SUI 18 Toro Rosso - 3 in pits

  

Qualifyings in two hours. Rain is expected.
Should be interesting considering there is such little difference in timings up at the top.



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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2679 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1628 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 2):
Qualifyings in two hours. Rain is expected.
Should be interesting considering there is such little difference in timings up at the top.

I would expect Sebastian Vettel to pull a rabbit out of his hat in his final run and snatch pole from Hamilton  



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

Brazilian Grand Prix qualifying

Q1 results

1 Great Britain J Button McLaren
2 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
3 Australia M Webber Red Bull
4 Germany A Sutil Force India
5 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
6 Germany M Schumacher Mercedes
7 Great Britain P Di Resta Force India
8 Russian Federation V Petrov Renault
9 Spain F Alonso Ferrari
10 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes
11 Brazil R Barrichello Williams
12 Spain J Alguersuari Toro Rosso
13 Brazil F Massa Ferrari
14 Mexico S Perez Sauber
15 Brazil B Senna Renault
16 Switzerland S Buemi Toro Rosso
17 Japan K Kobayashi Sauber

18 Venezuela P Maldonado Williams
19 Finland H Kovalainen Lotus
20 Italy J Trulli Lotus
21 Italy V Liuzzi HRT
22 Australia D Ricciardo HRT
23 Belgium J d'Ambrosio Virgin
24 Germany T Glock Virgin

  

Q2 results

1 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
2 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes
3 Australia M Webber Red Bull
4 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
5 Great Britain J Button McLaren
6 Spain F Alonso Ferrari
7 Germany A Sutil Force India
8 Brazil F Massa Ferrari
9 Brazil B Senna Renault
10 Germany M Schumacher Mercedes

11 Great Britain P Di Resta Force India
12 Brazil R Barrichello Williams
13 Spain J Alguersuari Toro Rosso
14 Switzerland S Buemi Toro Rosso
15 Russian Federation V Petrov Renault
16 Japan K Kobayashi Sauber
17 Mexico S Perez Sauber
18 Venezuela P Maldonado Williams
19 Finland H Kovalainen Lotus
20 Italy J Trulli Lotus
21 Italy V Liuzzi HRT
22 Australia D Ricciardo HRT
23 Belgium J d'Ambrosio Virgin
24 Germany T Glock Virgin

  

The surprise here is Nico Rosberg. Never thought he would make second place.

Q3 results

1 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
2 Australia M Webber Red Bull
3 Great Britain J Button McLaren
4 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
5 Spain F Alonso Ferrari
6 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes
7 Brazil F Massa Ferrari
8 Germany A Sutil Force India
9 Brazil B Senna Renault
10 Germany M Schumacher Mercedes

11 Great Britain P Di Resta Force India
12 Brazil R Barrichello Williams
13 Spain J Alguersuari Toro Rosso
14 Switzerland S Buemi Toro Rosso
15 Russian Federation V Petrov Renault
16 Japan K Kobayashi Sauber
17 Mexico S Perez Sauber
18 Venezuela P Maldonado Williams
19 Finland H Kovalainen Lotus
20 Italy J Trulli Lotus
21 Italy V Liuzzi HRT
22 Australia D Ricciardo HRT
23 Belgium J d'Ambrosio Virgin
24 Germany T Glock Virgin

Two Red Bulls ahead of the two McLarens

Sebastian Vettel takes Pole
His 15th Pole this season!!!

        

[Edited 2011-11-26 09:08:29]


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User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2810 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1597 times:

So..... the question is? Did Vettel sacrifice his race performance to get the record breaking pole position? I guess we won't know till the race is run. Either way, a brilliant lap.

User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

Sacrifice?
Not able to follow you on that one. You do actually know how many wins he has to back up his poles this season, right?

It has been confirmed that Raikkkonnen wont join Williams for next year. Wonder if Williams didn't agree on his salary terms.  



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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8465 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 6):
It has been confirmed that Raikkkonnen wont join Williams for next year. Wonder if Williams didn't agree on his salary terms.

The sponsorship with that Vodka company fell through. They wouldn't agree to providing him a barrel of vodka a month.


User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Hahahaha......

I thought we had a genius and waterproof idea there.
Can not see why that didn't work out.

I am pretty sure that we will not see Kubica back in a F1 car for some time to come. I mean, there is no team out there that will sign him for next season when he wont be able to test or be on the grid in March as he's not fit enough yet..



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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8465 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1542 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 8):
I am pretty sure that we will not see Kubica back in a F1 car for some time to come. I mean, there is no team out there that will sign him for next season when he wont be able to test or be on the grid in March as he's not fit enough yet..

I thought he was still contracted to Renault for next season. Seems they want him to commit for a few more seasons before they let him back in the car.


User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5724 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1541 times:
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Quoting bill142 (Reply 9):
I thought he was still contracted to Renault for next season.

That would be Lotus,
My understanding is that he told them he would not be ready for next year but they said they have committed to having a car for him anytime he wants to get back in one.(at least to test)



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User currently offlinebill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8465 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1537 times:

Quoting stealthz (Reply 10):
My understanding is that he told them he would not be ready for next year but they said they have committed to having a car for him anytime he wants to get back in one.(at least to test)

It would seem they've changed their mind on having a car ready for him if he's not willing to commit to them.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96512


User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1537 times:

Both of you might be right but it was said yesterday that the team don't want to commit as he will not be able to drive in a near future, and that he actually don't have a contract for next season. Interesting to see how it all plays out in the end.


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

... and Mark Webber wins the last Grand Prix of the 2011 season. I think he got it because of Seb having gear box problem with his car and having to let him go past. I had no idea if Seb would go all the way to the end with the gear box problem but he finished the race. Jenson Button finished third passing Alonso about 10 laps before the end.

Hammy got unlucky as he had to retire because of his gear box. Kamui was consistent all the way through ending with a 9th place and one more point for him and Sauber. My bummer was Senna hitting Schumi and ruined his race. In fact he hit him two times and got a drive through penalty.

Anyway... this is the last race for this season. I will be missing them all.
I hope they will all make the best of their Winter break. We will be happy to see them back in 2012!!

Race results and timings

1 Mark Webber FL AUS 2 Red Bull 71 1-1-1-1-1 3 1 (41) 3 (2)
2 Sebastian Vettel GER 1 Red Bull 71 2-2-2-2-2 3 1 (29) 3 (1)
3 Jenson Button GBR 4 McLaren 71 3-3-3-3-3 3 3 (21) 7 (1)
4 Fernando Alonso ESP 5 Ferrari 71 4-4-4-4-4 3 3 (46) 5 (1)
5 Felipe Massa BRA 6 Ferrari 71 5-5-5-5-5 2 1 (2) 7 (1)
6 Adrian Sutil GER 14 Force India 70 6-6-6-6-6 3 6 (21) 14 (1)
7 Nico Rosberg GER 8 Mercedes-Benz 70 7-7-7-7-7 2 6 (5) 13 (1)
8 Paul di Resta GBR 15 Force India 70 8-8-8-8-8 2 8 (30) 14 (2)
9 Kamui Kobayashi JPN 16 Sauber 70 9-9-9-9-9 2 7 (4) 16 (1)
10 Vitaly Petrov RUS 10 Renault 70 10-10-10-10-10 3 9 (8) 17 (3)
11 Jaime Alguersuari ESP 19 Toro Rosso 70 11-11-11-11-11 2 8 (2) 17 (2)
12 Sébastien Buemi SUI 18 Toro Rosso 70 12-12-12-12-12 2 8 (1) 14 (12)
13 Sergio Perez MEX 17 Sauber 70 13-13-13-13-13 2 9 (2) 17 (1)
14 Rubens Barrichello BRA 11 Williams 70 14-14-14-14-14 3 12 (1) 19 (2)
15 Michael Schumacher GER 7 Mercedes-Benz 70 15-15-15-15-15 3 10 (9) 24 (11)
16 Heikki Kovalainen FIN 20 Lotus 69 16-16-16-16-16 3 15 (1) 19 (12)
17 Bruno Senna BRA 9 Renault 69 17-17-17-17-17 4 9 (12) 18 (17)
18 Jarno Trulli ITA 21 Lotus 69 18-18-18-18-18 2 15 (3) 20 (11)
19 Jérôme d'Ambrosio BEL 25 Virgin 68 19-19-19-19-19 2 19 (13) 23 (1)
20 Daniel Ricciardo AUS 23 HRT 68 20-20-20-20-20 2 20 (7) 24 (10)
Retirement
Tonio Liuzzi ITA 23 HRT 61 20-20-20-20-20 2 19 (7) 22 (13)
Lewis Hamilton GBR 3 McLaren 46 6-6-6-6-6 3 4 (5) 6 (18)
Pastor Maldonado VEN 12 Williams 26 23-16-17-17-17 1 14 (1) 23 (1)
Timo Glock GER 24 Virgin 21 21-22-22-22-22 1 21 (1) 24 (1)

           



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User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2831 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 13):
... and Mark Webber wins the last Grand Prix of the 2011 season. I think he got it because of Seb having gear box problem with his car and having to let him go past. I had no idea if Seb would go all the way to the end with the gear box problem but he finished the race.

Do you really think he had ¨Gear Box issues¨ they kept telling him to do quick shifts and not to use the lower gears, yet after Webbo passed him, both the Red Bulls were faster than the other cars, and when Seb pitted you could clearly see him downshifting all the way to 1st gear... it was clearly an undercover team order to let Webbo past (all allowed this year)

On the other hand Hammy did have real gear box issues, and apparently so did Jenson.

Anyways, all its over now, they are off to enjoy their winter break and prepare for the 2012 season, I hope Ferrari gives Alonso a proper car next year and burn and destroy the shameful F150 (I think 150 means the maximum speed it can achieve or maybe it was based on the Ford F150 truck)

Bring on 2012!

MIAspotter



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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2679 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1418 times:
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Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 14):
Do you really think he had ¨Gear Box issues¨ they kept telling him to do quick shifts and not to use the lower gears, yet after Webbo passed him, both the Red Bulls were faster than the other cars, and when Seb pitted you could clearly see him downshifting all the way to 1st gear... it was clearly an undercover team order to let Webbo past (all allowed this year)

Glad I'm not the only one who thought so.

Then again, I'd be one of the first to jump on the conspiracy theorists who suggest, as they did throughout last year, that Webber got the raw end of the deal on several occasions. So I guess in the absence of conclusive proof to the contrary, I just have to believe that Vettel did have gearbox issues.



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1401 times:

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 15):
Glad I'm not the only one who thought so.

It just goes to show that Webber don't stand a chance against his team mate on equal terms.
Webber can't be all that happy about this fixed win.
Just like Massa don't have a chance against Alonso.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12808 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1395 times:
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Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 14):
Do you really think he had ¨Gear Box issues¨ they kept telling him to do quick shifts and not to use the lower gears, yet after Webbo passed him, both the Red Bulls were faster than the other cars, and when Seb pitted you could clearly see him downshifting all the way to 1st gear... it was clearly an undercover team order to let Webbo past (all allowed this year)

1 - why would RB do this?
2 - why would Vettel agree to it?
3 - why would the 'order' need to be undercover, since team orders are now allowed?

Complete nonsense IMHO. RB gained nothing by 'engineering' a race win for Webber. Nothing in Vettel's general demeanour suggests he'd be prone to such generosity.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 15):
Glad I'm not the only one who thought so.

Again, why?



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User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 17):
RB gained nothing by 'engineering' a race win for Webber.

They very well could have, however. Had Button received a DNF, Webber's 25 points would then have secured him 2nd place in the championship - and a clean sweep for the whole team.


User currently offlineswissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 16):
Webber can't be all that happy about this fixed win.

Agree... just listen to what or how excited he was after the race over the radio....

Quoting scbriml (Reply 17):
Again, why?

There is the answer  
Quoting flood (Reply 18):
They very well could have, however. Had Button received a DNF, Webber's 25 points would then have secured him 2nd place in the championship - and a clean sweep for the whole team.

Cheerios,


User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2831 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 17):
1 - why would RB do this?

Here´s the answer...

Quoting flood (Reply 18):
Had Button received a DNF, Webber's 25 points would then have secured him 2nd place in the championship - and a clean sweep for the whole team.
Quoting scbriml (Reply 17):
2 - why would Vettel agree to it?

Nothing to loose, he already have the championship well secured, and giving a little helping hand to Webber would not harm.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 17):
3 - why would the 'order' need to be undercover, since team orders are now allowed?

Well, in order not to make it really obvious and play it safe, as I said before, his mechanic kept telling him not to use the lower gears and yet he managed to make pit stops (downshifting all the way to 1st gear) and the car never lost any power, if he really had gear box issues the car would have packed up sooner or later (like Hamilton´s)

Everyone is free to believe as they want.

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User currently offlineDelboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

I think the gearbox troubles were pre ordained anyway but what does it matter.

Vettel is the best driver/car combination this year, Webber has to sort his head out as does Hamilton, Jenson deserved to finish runner up because he's a good driver who looks after his tyres and drives smoothy, Alonso should be hammering on the Ferrari door demanding a better car, Massa should be released at the first opportunity, Rosberg deserves a top team drive and Schuey should pack in now whilst he still has some dignity left.

As for the rest, DiResta deserves a shot with a better team, don't bring back those two boring Scandinavians (Kimi and Mica) and for God's sake, find Reubens a seat for 2012.


User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2679 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1371 times:
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Quoting Delboy (Reply 21):
As for the rest, DiResta deserves a shot with a better team, don't bring back those two boring Scandinavians (Kimi and Mica) and for God's sake, find Reubens a seat for 2012.

Mika? Don't tell me Hakkinen wants to come back ...

Raikkonen, on the other hand, should come back. F1 is poorer without him. When he's on it, Raikkonen is one of the quickest drivers, and if he has a good car, he'll give any of the current top drivers a run for their money. Don't forget, Raikkonen was runner up to the title in 2003 and 2005 before finally breaking through to win in 2007. Especially 2005, when McLaren had the fastest car that year, although it was anything but reliable - Raikkonen could easily have become a double world champion.

As a Williams fan, I'm disappointed that the latest rumour is that Raikkonen won't be returning with Williams. I had hoped that he could replace Barrichello.

As for Barrichello - he's past it. The time has come for him to hang up his helmet. This year he has been beaten by a rookie. He has had a good career so far, but the time has come for him to leave while he still has some dignity left. He was never a championship contender to begin with, and his years at Ferrari and Brawn when they were at their peak proved that. I hope Williams doesn't renew Barrichello's contract.



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
Mika? Don't tell me Hakkinen wants to come back ...

Raikkonen, on the other hand, should come back

Mika wont come back to F1, but to racing yes as he will race an SLS in the GT3 serie.
I would love to see him back in F1 though. Great driver and personality.

Raikkonen needs to come back and stir things up a bit. He wont be in a Williams for sure, so wonder where he would get a seat in that case. Blistering fast if he has the car to support it.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

Quoting Delboy (Reply 21):
DiResta deserves a shot with a better team

I agree there. He has talent.

As for Seb I was very surprised that he finished the race without much trouble at all. Hammy definitely had a busted gear box but for Seb I wasn't so certain seeing how he finished the race...

 



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30 Post contains images MadameConcorde : It will spice up the championship that's for sure. I heard the Renault team is changing name to Marussia next year. Not sure it it will be good or ba
31 CXB77L : I'm in two minds about this. While I'm glad that Raikkonen is coming back, as a Williams fan I had hoped that he would go to Williams instead to repl
32 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Thank you for the rectification. All these name changes are confusing. Ddin't Renault (the company) announce that they would no longer have the F1 te
33 CXB77L : Yes. They sold the Renault team to a private entity late last year, if I recall correctly. That's why it's known as Lotus Renault GP from now on.
34 stealthz : While everyone was congratulating Seb Vettel and Redbull on finally breaking the 19 year old pole position record in the Adrian Newey designed, Renaul
35 Delboy : Oh please, he's as dull as ditchwater. Every time I hear him interviewed, I want to slit my throat! Is it a Scandinavian thing speaking in monotone?
36 MadameConcorde : Mikka is easy to find. He is at the International School in Monaco by the famous Stars and Bars restaurant, waiting to pick up his children most afte
37 Post contains links BlueElephant : Ladies and Gents, The Iceman is back. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96573 Which means, next year Renault could have both Kimi and Kubica
38 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Among the two I much prefer Kubica to be honest. It's only a matter of personal taste. I hope he will be back in 2012 as well and I want to see Schum
39 Post contains images CXB77L : Oh yes, as a Williams fan I'm all too aware of that. Adrian Newey is something of a superstar in the F1 technical world. Next year's Williams will al
40 sudden : Eh, don't think we are to go in to what is what regarding nationality, which was not my main point either. He was very fast and made some of the grea
41 MIAspotter : Maybe he will be on the grid in 2013... in a Ferrari replacing Massa. MIAspotter
42 GBLKD : Maybe but I personally would like to see Paul Di Resta in that seat.
43 sudden : For all I care they can replace Massa now already. The only reason I can see why they keep him is that agreed to be no. 2 to Alonso
44 KiwiRob : Driven by a man with a hairy upper lip.
45 Post contains links and images sudden : Q&A with Kimi. His very last answer is so him. http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2011/11/12860.html
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