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User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 313 posts, RR: 12
Posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

Hi everyone - firstly let me thank you all for your assistance in picking things out. I ended up going with none of my 3 preferred picks, which I'll list below for the sake of completeness and to refresh your memories!

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My parameters/requirements for a vehicle to serve daily driving duty are as follows:

* Minimum of 400 Horsepower
* 4 door sedan/saloon
* German preferred, but open to other options.
* Obviously I don't care how much fuel it burns.
* A used car, 2-4 years old - so somebody else has taken the depreciation hit.
* Some semblance of "Stealth" appeal - I don't want a car that /looks/ fast.

So here are my candidates. Each of these cars I have test driven, and I'll give some pros and cons for each - but what I suppose I'm really looking for is a left field alternative I might not be considering. Top to bottom in terms of preference...

#1: 2007-Current Audi S6. 5.2 liter Lamborghini V10, 435 horsepower, all wheel drive. This car has the nicest interior of them all, plus great seating, good driving position. It doesn't feel 435 horsepower fast, however, but that's a minor concern - it has enough for my needs. Comfortable on the freeway, and rock solid above 120 MPH. I like the styling, I like the package in general. This is currently the top of my list.

#2: 2009-Current Cadillac CTS-V sedan. I can get one barely within budget - after tax, it might be a bit beyond budget, but I'll deal with that. It's got a uniquely American feel to it - a 556 horsepower Supercharged 6.2 liter V8. The car feels very heavy on the road, definitely had the speed, and absolutely feels like it has 556 horsepower. I believe GM's claim that it is the fastest production sedan in the world - inside, nobody can hear you scream. Interior is... well... it's not tragic, but it lacks much of the refinement that the German counterparts offer. It doesn't feel as well bolted together. Feeling the chassis twist under the massive torque that it delivers, while hurdling forward at speeds I would only associate with the Koenigseggs, Ferraris, and Lamborghinis of the world... it was a unique experience. I also like the fact that the interior has a lot of buttons to press. The more, the better. I like my interiors cluttered.

#3: 2006-2010 BMW M5. At the start here, let me state what I hate about this car: The electronic gizmos separating you from the road - the fact that it takes a computer science education to change the radio station (fortunately I have one of those), and the transmission and engine in general - I feel the whole car is going to be a maintenance disaster. The transmission isn't a true manual, or true auto - it's one of those hydraulic jobs - what Jeremy Clarkson affectionately calls "a flappy paddle gearbox", which as we know are disastrous. That said - I drove one. I settled into what felt like an 80 mph cruise on the test drive, and looked down at the speedometer realizing that I was in 7th gear going 125 mph. This car drives like it was meant to go high speeds, all day long, for the duration of its life. It feels bred for the purpose. I just have a hard time getting over my prejudice for it. A huge pro for this car: This is by far the cheapest of all the options available to me, and the most easy to find a good used example of with a factory warranty. I had ruled it out, but it's back in the running. I'd say tied with the CTS-V.

I ended up with none of them.

Long story short, I ordered a CTS-V Wagon/Estate and took delivery of it. Due to some circumstances beyond my control, we needed to sell the car and replace with something different.

The something different came from a suggestion in the original thread:

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Quoting srqmuc (Reply 20):
Exactly! Out of the 3 you mentioned I would go with the Audi. I also wanted to suggest the RS 6 but it seems that you don't get it in the US

As it turns out, in the USA, we did get the RS6 Saloon for the year 2003 only - only 860 imported. And I tracked one down, investigated it, and after experiencing the twin-turbo 450 horsepower V8, I had to have it...

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[Edited 2011-12-10 03:30:37]

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User currently offlinevarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

sweet.... You'll love it driving AUDI!!!!   

User currently offlineMoltenRock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

I used to drive BMWs, but switched to Audis 4 or 5 years ago. Good choice!

User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1747 times:

Quoting Siren (Thread starter):
RS6 Saloon

Great car. My family had an S6 Avant for many years; the RS6 added more horsepower.

Congrats.



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User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

My friend you will LOVE the RS6, just make sure you keep up with maintenance, especially that pest of a timing belt which needs to be done at 30k intervals. Brakes aren't cheap either, BUT the fun in that car outweighs ANY downside.

Now you just need to get that bad boy chipped and you're looking at the best time of your life. I have driven chipped ones and its scary fast. Only downside is the torque converter, doesn't hold up all that well in the long run.


It's a good thing you did not get the S6 V10, its a cool car, but its sooooooooooo boring to drive. The only thing that kept me awake while driving it is the roar the car makes!! ... The RS6 though.. oh man... nothing like it.


You made me happy by just buying it!!! ahahhaahha Enjoy!!



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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

Nice car. Not an Audi fan personally, but enjoy it.

Why a minimum of 400hp though? That's really pointless unless you're racing.


User currently offlinekiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7251 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

Quoting Siren (Thread starter):
And I tracked one down, investigated it, and after experiencing the twin-turbo 450 horsepower V8, I had to have it...

Great car. Super easy to get one of these to 600hp, a client of mine had an RS6 Avant back in 2004, he had an ECU remap by Superchips which gave him 560hp, then exhaust and cold airbox had him at 600.


User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 5):
Why a minimum of 400hp though? That's really pointless unless you're racing.

Who cares, its what he wants.



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User currently offlineswissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

Quoting Siren (Thread starter):
As it turns out, in the USA, we did get the RS6 Saloon for the year 2003 only - only 860 imported. And I tracked one down, investigated it, and after experiencing the twin-turbo 450 horsepower V8, I had to have it..

I feel with you  had a Allroad with the 2.7 twin turbo.. stock was 250hp, by the time I was done with it it was around 375hp...left outside all stock including the wheels.... boy oh boy did it go like st... and yet if driven normal I still got 35+ mpg   , that thing weight over 2 mT too...still missed it very much. Very reliable

Enjoy

Cheerios,


User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1551 times:

Quoting flanker (Reply 4):
just make sure you keep up with maintenance, especially that pest of a timing belt which needs to be done at 30k intervals.

30K? You have got to be kidding me. There is no way in hell I'd by ANY car, even if it was a $10,000 Kia if I had to replace that at 30K. That is just ridiculous. Wow. I'm shocked that there isn't a class action suit against Audi on such a shoddy part. I've NEVER heard of a timing belt interval of less than 100K. But then again, I've only looked at cars such as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and heck even all the US manufacturers that can build an engine that has a belt that lasts..

Quoting flanker (Reply 4):
Brakes aren't cheap either, BUT the fun in that car outweighs ANY downside.

Audi brake rotors can easily cost $300 EACH. After pads and labor, if you can't do it yourself, you're talking close to a $1,000 for a front brake job. And seriously, if the owner of the car insists on having 400+hp, he might want to consider that. Fast starts equals lots of need for brakes. And lots of needs for brakes equals worn pads and rotors.

To the new owner:

How on earth can you afford this car if your talking a timing belt and brakes every 30K but can't afford the Caddy wagon you had to sell?

Quoting flanker (Reply 4):
Only downside is the torque converter, doesn't hold up all that well in the long run.

Oh yea, forgot. Those things are cheap to replace... AND good luck not having to wait 2-4 weeks for the part to arrive from Germany.. add up those rental fees..

Lets see, if you have a timing belt, $500-800, brakes, $1000, and a torque converter, who knows, $3,000??? all need to be replaced in one year, well.....

But then again, glad you got what you wanted. Enjoy it while you can!! Can you tell I'm not a fan of Audi?


Enjoy the car, but wow have you bought yourself into a money pit.

[Edited 2011-12-10 15:08:02]


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User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1534 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):
Wow. I'm shocked that there isn't a class action suit against Audi on such a shoddy part. I've NEVER heard of a timing belt interval of less than 100K. But then again, I've only looked at cars such as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and heck even all the US manufacturers that can build an engine that has a belt that lasts..

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is what it is. Its an amazing car. You don't have to change it at 30k, that's recommended intervals. Why would there be a class action suit against Audi when they tell you upfront what is recommended.. if you don't follow it that's your own damn problem. A4's by the book are over 100k, but every enthusiast knows that around 60K is the right time for a tbelt.

Stop trying to ruin his purchase. He made a great choice.

Siren, don't listen to this Toyota fan boy, only you know the fun and excitement that comes when you hit the gas.. it doesn't lie 
Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):
Audi brake rotors can easily cost $300 EACH. After pads and labor, if you can't do it yourself, you're talking close to a $1,000 for a front brake job. And seriously, if the owner of the car insists on having 400+hp, he might want to consider that. Fast starts equals lots of need for brakes. And lots of needs for brakes equals worn pads and rotors.

Actually front brakes job alone is about $2000, but again, these aren't ordinary A4 brakes. Most of the cost is in the labor anyway. When I worked for Audi we were charging $135/hour .. I'm sure its more now.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):
How on earth can you afford this car if your talking a timing belt and brakes every 30K but can't afford the Caddy wagon you had to sell?
Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):
Oh yea, forgot. Those things are cheap to replace... AND good luck not having to wait 2-4 weeks for the part to arrive from Germany.. add up those rental fees..

Lets see, if you have a timing belt, $500-800, brakes, $1000, and a torque converter, who knows, $3,000??? all need to be replaced in one year, well.....

But then again, glad you got what you wanted. Enjoy it while you can!! Can you tell I'm not a fan of Audi?

That's his business, not yours. If he takes care of the car he will enjoy it for a long time just like any other super car.

Torque converter would only have a problem if he chips it, and mostly in the long run.


Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):

Enjoy the car, but wow have you bought yourself into a money pit.

Nope, buying a E55 AMG would have been a money pit.

What he did was buy the finest car in that class and the MOST FUN.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1524 times:

Quoting flanker (Reply 10):
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is what it is. Its an amazing car. You don't have to change it at 30k, that's recommended intervals. Why would there be a class action suit against Audi when they tell you upfront what is recommended..

Not bursting my bubble at all. Sorry. I'm just not stupid enough to buy such a car when you can find dozens of cars for a fraction of the price that have as you say recommended intervals of three times this much.

Quoting flanker (Reply 10):
Siren, don't listen to this Toyota fan boy

Sorry.. But I'm a Nissan fan. But then again, my 05 Sentra with 348,000 miles, yes, 348 THOUSAND miles which I've only replaced the fuel pump, fuel tank pressure valve, exterior engine belts (interior has a timing chain) and brakes and tires and maybe a light here and there is a piece of engineering crap compared to an Audi that needs a timing belt changed after only 30K. Yea. Don't listen to me. Oh and the brakes? $60 for Ceramic Pads, $120 for Ultra Premium Rotors from Napa and I'm done.

Quoting flanker (Reply 10):
only you know the fun and excitement that comes when you hit the gas.. it doesn't lie

One thing you can't argue is that when I hit the gas, I arrive to the point I intend to go, just in a cheaper method. Really, there's not many places I need 400hp in a city the size of Nashville. And I certainly don't need a car to inflate my ego.

Quoting flanker (Reply 10):
Actually front brakes job alone is about $2000

That makes it even better!!! There is nothing like a good bar story with your buddies telling them how you just spend $2,000 in brakes!! I mean you will be the BOMB at the next party!!!



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User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3280 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1518 times:

Quoting Siren (Thread starter):
Long story short, I ordered a CTS-V Wagon/Estate and took delivery of it. Due to some circumstances beyond my control, we needed to sell the car and replace with something different.

Shame about the CTS-V, but the Audi is a fine vehicle. Congrats!   



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User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1514 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 11):
Not bursting my bubble at all. Sorry. I'm just not stupid enough to buy such a car when you can find dozens of cars for a fraction of the price

Yeah but that is not the point of it. A used RS6 is 20-30K which is not a bad price for what is pretty much a super car. We are not talking about Honda and Nissan here. Nothing about these high end super cars is made to be economical. Siren was looking at a specific class vehicle, and in my humble opinion he made the absolute best choice.

When those turbos spool and you are thrust back into your seat, you are removed from reality and all your car maintenance worries go away.

As far as how much things costs, that's something that is not our concern, but his. All i can say that ANY expense on that car is worth the money even for fraction of a second. As long as he doesn't mind upkeep then good for him!!

If I had the money at the moment I would be in a RS6 as well, except i like the more nimble B5 Stage 3 S4's.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1514 times:

Quoting flanker (Reply 10):
Actually front brakes job alone is about $2000, but again, these aren't ordinary A4 brakes. Most of the cost is in the labor anyway. When I worked for Audi we were charging $135/hour.

Can I call a foul here? Most of the cost is labor? Hummm..

Even at $135/hour, if you say most of the cost is labor, well lets say half, or $1,000 of a $2,000 job, thats a brake job that takes 7.4 Hours. Really? At home with my little jack and hand tools it takes me less than an hour easily to do both sides. What a rip off....



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15730 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1507 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 11):
One thing you can't argue is that when I hit the gas, I arrive to the point I intend to go, just in a cheaper method.

Gee that sounds like a wonderful deal. There is only one huge downside: you're driving a Nissan Sentra. As a Toyota Avalon owner I can tell you, it isn't any fun. It's not even a car as much as a driving appliance. It (and a lot of other cars) are cars for people who don't care the least about cars. They buy them the same way they'd buy a blender or a dryer. It's a fine car for me at the moment, but don't get me wrong, with any luck, it will be the last Avalon (and possibly any Toyota) I'll ever own. And that thought doesn't bother me, not even a little bit.

Quoting Siren (Thread starter):
As it turns out, in the USA, we did get the RS6 Saloon for the year 2003 only - only 860 imported. And I tracked one down, investigated it, and after experiencing the twin-turbo 450 horsepower V8, I had to have it...

You were smart to go with a V8 variant. I wouldn't much like to drive a car with a V10 sitting over the front axle. The FWD architecture is going to start to become a problem for Audi in the coming years, but then if you're talking new cars the best Audis are Porsches.



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User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 15):
You were smart to go with a V8 variant. I wouldn't much like to drive a car with a V10 sitting over the front axle.

The V8 is an excellent choice. The v10 S6 is so blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... the way it puts down the power really sucks. But the sound it makes and the seats is....   



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User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 313 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1448 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):
To the new owner:

How on earth can you afford this car if your talking a timing belt and brakes every 30K but can't afford the Caddy wagon you had to sell?

Easy: I said "circumstances beyond my control." I never said anything about money. The CTS-V was paid for in cash, and was ready to go to a modifier, whom I had prepaid for an additional $15,000 in work, taking my total cost on the CTS-V fiasco to around $88,000. The modifications to the car could not be completed within an acceptable timeframe - I was told by the modder that the car would be ready by the end of March. I needed something sooner... like, in November. I couldn't continue to depend on my husband's availability to drive me wherever I needed to go.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):
Enjoy the car, but wow have you bought yourself into a money pit.

Oh that much I do know. I've purchased what is sure to be a mighty big headache for me - but that said, it's an exotic, fun, and interesting headache. The car is covered under an extended warranty for another 3 years or 30,000 miles. I figure I'll manage to break the transmission before then.

Re: timing belt - when you have 415 ft-lb of torque regularly transferred through a timing belt, it will require more frequent change intervals. I think 30,000 miles is excessive, however, and Audi agrees with me. They revised the schedule for the timing belts to 60,000 miles, while retaining the 30,000 mile recommendation for "severe duty." I intend on going with the 60,000 mile recommendation.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 15):
It's not even a car as much as a driving appliance. It (and a lot of other cars) are cars for people who don't care the least about cars. They buy them the same way they'd buy a blender or a dryer.

BMI727: Nail on the head. This is why I buy an Audi, and not a Toyota, despite people questioning my sanity. The fact of the matter is, cars like the Audi wouldn't exist if there wasn't a market for them - people like me, who love cars, love something interesting, and enjoy driving fast. Enjoy the passion that the sound of a roaring V8 imparts while you hurl toward the horizon, like a 757 on a takeoff roll, with an engine that sounds like a roaring Messerschmitt on a dive bombing run...

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 11):
One thing you can't argue is that when I hit the gas, I arrive to the point I intend to go, just in a cheaper method. Really, there's not many places I need 400hp in a city the size of Nashville. And I certainly don't need a car to inflate my ego.

Not at all going to argue about getting from point A to point B. Hell, the Audi is likely to leave me stranded waiting for a tow truck at least once a year. I know that going into it - but that's not the point of the car. You clearly have very different priorities than myself in a motor vehicle, and that's absolutely fine - but what you value in a vehicle (reliability, low cost, simplicity of ownership) is very different from what I value (personality, speed, torque, sound, comfort). I'm willing to sacrifice a lot to have the ultimate fast sedan.

As a responsible adult, I don't need 450 horsepower - nobody does. But that 450 horsepower is there for the times when you need to overtake a truck on a country road, when merging onto a freeway, when the traffic light ahead goes yellow and you drop the hammer, when you need to take a right turn out of the shopping center onto the busy boulevard and have only the smallest window - but all the torque in the world to make it happen... it's something I use every day I drive the car.

I'm also not at all ashamed to admit that I am the person who gives all Audi drivers a bad reputation. I cut people off, I bully them out of the fast lane if they're impeding the flow of traffic, I tailgate, I flash my high beams, I'll pass on the shoulder if I'm appropriately pissed, I typically drive at least 20 mph above the local speed limits... and I have the perfect car for my driving style...

It has nothing to do with ego, my friend. It has everything to do with how it drives. If the best and most powerful, comfortable, and reliable car was a Ford, I'd drive the Ford. Brand doesn't matter - the content is what matters.

Quoting flanker (Reply 10):
Nope, buying a E55 AMG would have been a money pit.

Seconded. I used to have an E55 AMG... that's what was replaced. THAT CAR was a money pit, indeed. I had to throw at least $4,000 a year into it just to keep it running. Lots of electric problems, it would regularly eat window regulators, transmission computer exploded at a cost of $2,500, gauge cluster/speedometer failed, sensors here and there - and so on and so forth. Nice car though. Fairly fast. Beautiful design...



I expect the Audi to be similar in costs to run, maintain. I expect similar headaches.


User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1397 times:

Quoting Siren (Reply 17):
Seconded. I used to have an E55 AMG... that's what was replaced. THAT CAR was a money pit, indeed.

Siren, first of all I apologize because I thought you were a guy the whole time, epic fail on my part...I should have checked. Now I am even more happy that a lady likes to go out and mess around in this way!!!

Btw, the E55 is a GREAT machine, just a money pit. I don't want to take anything away from it.. i just would not own one.

You made a great choice with the RS6, now go get some software and then and you'll never want to drive anything else again.  

If you need any help or questions just let me know.



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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

Quoting flanker (Reply 7):
Who cares, its what he wants.

I was just curious - 400hp seems a little crazy when the speed limit on highways in most States is 65mph.   The economic climate and fuel prices would influence it as well - fuel prices in the US are a fraction of what they are in the UK, a litre here is $2.10 a LITRE, or $10 for a UK Gallon, I was just curious why he wanted so much power with fuel prices as they are. I know in the US a Gallon is less than that but it's still expensive. I remember going to Florida in 2001 and a Gallon being $1.07....


User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1326 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

We all know that Audi's are the under steering demons from hell, but if you can get yourself over that they are very well designed, engineered and build.

I would have gone with a BMW. Not an M5 though, unless you happen to own a racetrack. A 535d does it for me, and does it very well. Took delivery of a 2011 Touring a couple of months ago, and cannot think of any (sensible-ish) car I'd rather have.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1144 times:

Quoting Siren (Reply 17):
asy: I said "circumstances beyond my control." I never said anything about money. The CTS-V was paid for in cash, and was ready to go to a modifier, whom I had prepaid for an additional $15,000 in work, taking my total cost on the CTS-V fiasco to around $88,000

Well that is an odd circumstance. Sorry for the jumping the gun... Yea, 88K for that is a little large!

Quoting Siren (Reply 17):
Re: timing belt - when you have 415 ft-lb of torque regularly transferred through a timing belt, it will require more frequent change intervals. I think 30,000 miles is excessive, however, and Audi agrees with me. They revised the schedule for the timing belts to 60,000 miles, while retaining the 30,000 mile recommendation for "severe duty." I intend on going with the 60,000 mile recommendation

Well, here is my question. You understand even 60,000 miles is way under average for a timing belt. And I understand what 415 ft-lbs will do to the internals, especially a belt. My question is, are Timing CHAINS illegal now-a-days? I mean you pay that much money for a high performance car and one part inside the engine is a belt that is a weak spot that can be fixed by simply using a chain. I just can't get over that.

Quoting Siren (Reply 17):
I'm also not at all ashamed to admit that I am the person who gives all Audi drivers a bad reputation. I cut people off, I bully them out of the fast lane if they're impeding the flow of traffic, I tailgate, I flash my high beams, I'll pass on the shoulder if I'm appropriately pissed, I typically drive at least 20 mph above the local speed limits... and I have the perfect car for my driving style...

Who knew Danica Patrick was a member of A.net? Wow! You seriously drive like that? Cool! Wait a second, are you married to the longtime/old time A.net member LOT767?

Can I make a suggest? Go out and buy a dark colored Police Package Hemi Charger, the 2012's have the 8 speed, and the left lane will be all yours! The days of that pesky shoulder passing will be over!

Seriously, enjoy your car. And you're right, we have different ideas of what a car does for each of us. I just like going cheap! But one last jab... at least my mighty 1.8 liter engine has a Timing CHAIN!!!!   

[Edited 2011-12-14 14:52:56]


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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1002 times:

Quoting Siren (Thread starter):
I ordered a CTS-V Wagon/Estate and took delivery of it.

Nice car!



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Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 921 times:
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Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 21):
Wait a second, are you married to the longtime/old time A.net member LOT767?

  



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