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Former Czech President Vaclav Havel Has Died  
User currently offlinethomil13FRA From Ireland, joined Jul 2010, 84 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1551 times:
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BBC and other news outlets are reporting that Vaclav Havel, former president of the Czech Republic, and a key figure of the movement for democracy in the Czech Republic and Central Europe, has died at age 75.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16236393

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/18/wo...av-havel-obit/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Truly sad news. RIP!  

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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1541 times:

Quoting thomil13FRA (Thread starter):
Truly sad news.

It is indeed. Rest in peace, Mr Havel, and thank you!   



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16867 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

He helped shape the most important period of change in the World during my lifetime, positive change.

RIP.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12472 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

A very great man; a true hero of his country, but also the rest of Europe as well. He was not just a playwright, but a philosopher as well and many of his sayings and speeches are counted among the best in recent history.

He will be sorely missed and I hope that he is honoured by his people and the wider European community the way he deserves to be.


User currently offlineklaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

An interesting, great and above all sane man who earned his firm place in european history.

He had been suffering for years, so the last years of still having him did already feel like a bonus.

He'll be remembered with respect and affection.


User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Very sad for me and my country to see such a great president pass away!

RIP Vaclav Havel and peace to his family!!!

Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13208 posts, RR: 77
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

Eastern Europe's George Orwell, was pivotal in the ending the rule of one of the nastier Warsaw Pact regimes and did so without firing a shot .

Sane free thinking guardians of true freedom are not having a good week what with Christopher Hitchens death.

To survive the mental torture of the regime, to galvanise opposition, to then become leader of his country were great achievements.
Tinged with his inability to prevent his beloved Czechoslovakia from splitting, which however painful for him, was also a result of free will and probably could not have been prevented by anyone else.

Good taste in music too.

Veteran Foreign Affairs Correspondent John Simpson fondly remembers Havel
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16237657

RIP Vaclav Havel


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 1):
Rest in peace, Mr Havel, and thank you!

One of the Greatest Europeans ever has left us
                 

but let's not think about what might still have been but what we all had from him,
let's overcome the tears and celebrate what he in the end achieved         


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

One of the true hero's of the past century, a humble man. The world will miss him.
It's a bit shocking that this thread gets less visitors and reaction then a Lindsey Lohan thread.  



nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 8):
It's a bit shocking that this thread gets less visitors and reaction then a Lindsey Lohan thread

In today´s world, this is no suprise  

Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1354 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 8):
It's a bit shocking that this thread gets less visitors and reaction then a Lindsey Lohan thread.

Exactly because the man was more humble than Lindsay Lohan and George W. Bush (Jr). I expect to see more reaction when GWB (jr) finally passes out.


User currently offlineprebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6451 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1333 times:

I was in Prague on a Sunday in late February 1990 when Vaclav Havel was giving a speech from the balcony of the castle before going to Moscow on Monday morning for negotiations with Gorbachev. No, I wasn't at the castle, that wasn't possible. But I have never seen so many happy people as in Prague on that Sunday.

Shortly later I read one of his plays as a book. Then I realized why the east European dictators had to put him behind bars. Havel was a really exceptional man.

He was hardly a prototype of a modern politician who could deal efficiently with priorities in budget forecasts and such. But he was exactly the right catalyst needed to make all the various new and inexperienced people in power work together for the benefit of the country instead of "fighting" their individual goals.

It was likely a disappointment for him that he couldn't keep his country together. But I think that he also saw the benefits of the split. Czechoslovakia was in fact a rather artificial construction, an area which was somewhat "left over" following the breakup on the Austro-Hungarian Empire after WWI, and in fact it existed as an independent country only for 20 years from 1918 to 1938. Instead of continued internal quarrel the two countries can now live their own lives and be extremely good friends.

Havel was likely the master of the club of people such as Lech Walesa of Poland and Lennart Meri, Estonia, etc. Barely a handful of people who together shaped an immensely "happy end" to the most troubled century ever experienced in Europe, the 20th century.



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlinen229nw From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1950 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

R. I. P. to a smart and multi-talented man, who had an influence on many levels in guiding his country smoothly out of authoritarian government.


It's people like you what cause unrest!
User currently offlinetexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4278 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1245 times:

Havel's death saddened me. A great writer, eternal optimist and seemingly genuine person. I always enjoy reading his books and ideas.

Texan



"I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5712 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

Sad news indeed, although not exactly unexpected because Mr. Havel looked visibly frail and unwell during his last public appearance last week when he met with Dalai Lama.
I believe that his fate will follow that of many other significant politicians of the late 1980s/early 1990s that their legacy will be appreciated more abroad than at home.
I was quite impressed and moved by the amount of people all over the coutntry who spontaneously gathered to lit up a candle and to pay a silent tribute to Mr. Havel.
http://www.lidovky.cz/foto.asp?foto1...ea19_DWC17_CZECH_HAVEL_1218_11.JPG
http://www.lidovky.cz/foto.asp?foto1=SK3fea79_p201112180643301.jpg

Perhaps, as suggested in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiFZbbd438g the spirit of 1989 is not completely dead after all....?

Quoting prebennorholm (Reply 11):
Czechoslovakia was in fact a rather artificial construction, an area which was somewhat "left over" following the breakup on the Austro-Hungarian Empire after WWI, and in fact it existed as an independent country only for 20 years from 1918 to 1938.

With retrospect of almost 20 years some of the Czech-Slovak quarrels from the early 1990s seem futile and pointless, however the split turned out to be a win-win situation for both nations and a great catalyst towards improvement in mutual relations (official and unofficial) between the two nations which are now far better than they were during federation.


User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6816 posts, RR: 34
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1163 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 8):
It's a bit shocking that this thread gets less visitors and reaction then a Lindsey Lohan thread

True....he was a magnificent man. I remain most impressed that it is the Eastern European nations and folks that emerged from the Iron Curtain that have the greatest animation for freedom. It is the Czechs who have been so vigorous in their quest for liberty, to stop communism, and move the argument for free societies forward. Havel was a giant in this regard, who proved that slow, steady pressure can indeed move mountains.


User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days ago) and read 1153 times:

It is really sad that a very great man, wise politician and one of the greatest statesmen of Europe passed away. He served devoutly to his country and his people. Besides, I will always remember him as one of the greatest supporters of Kosovo's cause.

Rest in peace, Mr. Vaclav Havel.



DO FLIGHTS. NOT FIGHTS.
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1127 times:

Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 16):
s remember him as one of the greatest supporters of Kosovo's cause.

yes, he clearly was. So, please name one of the better roads in Pristina "VACLAV HAVEL AVENUE in his honour !


User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 1099 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 17):
So, please name one of the better roads in Pristina "VACLAV HAVEL AVENUE in his honour !

Maybe our city mayor will do it someday.



DO FLIGHTS. NOT FIGHTS.
User currently offlinestipica From Croatia, joined Feb 2011, 426 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1087 times:

Thank you for your support when we needed , warm and living spirit ... rest in peace President Vaclav Havel ...
stipica  



Open your eyes and think
User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1078 times:

Really surprised by the relative lack of replies to this thread. Pretty much every European I've ever met held Mr. Havel in high-regard and I do as well. Truly a remarkable man, all the best to his family and friends. R.I.P.


Next Flight: 9/17 BFI-BFI
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1064 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 20):
a remarkable man



He in a way was THE successor-in.-spirit of Willy Brandt, another giant of European history. Sure,
Willy Brandt was a professional politician which makes a difference but there are quite many
similarities between these two unforgettable gentemen


User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1051 times:

Friday is President´s Havel funeral in Prague. A mass will be held at the St. Vitus Cathedral in Prague castle in his honor.

Among confirmed statesman are Nicolas Sarkozy, David Cameron, Lech Walesa, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Angela Merkel, Jose Barroso, Ivan Gasparovic, Iveta Radicova, the presidents of Slovenia, Estonia, the prince of the Netherlands, amongst others.

I am sad that I cannot be in Prague in this moment, I will held my respects to the man that led my country and others to freedom from Lima.

Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 986 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 22):
Bill and Hillary Clinton

Bill Clinton with a "stony" face. I remember that he on a visit to Prague together with Vaclav Havel visited the favourite pubs of V.H. and went with him to a Jazz club to play Jazz. Had the impression that the two gents were on the same wavelengths. And I guess that they met in private after that again. Yes indeed, getting older means that increasingly, people "around you" start to pass away one by one.


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 961 times:

He seemed to have a Roman Catholic funeral but I was not aware he was a Roman Catholic.

Religion did not find a renaissance under his office and the Pope referred to Czech as the black heart of Europe.

I don't like contradictions. That's the truth.


25 klaus : Being a decent human being has absolutely nothing to do with being religious (in some cases they are even in conflict).
26 Post contains links and images L410Turbolet : The aviation angle fo the funeral was quite interesting and and told an interesting story about the passengers if one read in between the lines... Gue
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